― Dude (The Yellow Dart), Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:12 (9 years ago) Permalink
anyways, go to: http://www.liarsliarsliars.com/downloads.htmlthere's an mp3 on there.
The album is noisy as hell and hurts to listen to in some parts. If that's your bag, go for it.
It sounds nothing like the 1st album.
― Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 26 February 2004 01:19 (9 years ago) Permalink
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― Michael Patrick Brady (Michael Patrick Brady), Thursday, 26 February 2004 06:09 (9 years ago) Permalink
A strident lack of normal movement in the anima(l) of "They Were Wrong, So We Drowned" could well prove for too agglutinous a confit, or in other words it might be excessively, nigh on wantonly, steeped in its own allegorical fattiness for greater hipster consumption. In particular as this seems now a rather pious realm, and one whose gourmandizing has, by all accounts, tended towards the lean and not-so-mean. All in the name of collegial and succour-prone peristalsis perhaps. But it is ironic then that the singer would outline a desire to be a horse on the first track, and not say an insect or something more in line with cosmopolitan solecism, when we consider as well that the one thing they possess as a band undisputedly is a certain hipster (dark) horse sense.
Of course, the first album from the Liars was a more athletic (work) horse, which, for all intents and purposes, also reached out to the aggregate and honest trendlet-bound needs of that moment. But what could be remarkable about this album is a palpable, if improbable, potential on its part to perform the same. Might be real savvy in other words, or else just about completely mystifying (to some) in its (aforementioned) seeming lack of any responsible organizational standard, even to fit with the (relatively) viable 'tortured bon vivant' meme that it represents. Not a watermark level of organization as can be often ascertained in work by their referenced fiery forbears (more or less Neubaten, Youth, Heat) -- not to mention, more recently, in such febrile avatars of transportive texture as Vibracathedral Orchestra and Sightings, to name just two.
Do (the?) Liars, here and now, demonstrate any grace in what they are doing? Perhaps sensing that the only truly publicly acceptable guess will be "yes, probably" is kind of a bold move. Surely this will oft be the case, and rampant forfeiture to the bluff will arrive too, as any anonymous negative response to the album will come across to proximate peers as simply the MORE obsequious option in/on the face of it; i.e. merely naively inimical susurration expected from those somehow perceiving themselves as not having had relented to a woefully pragmatic deadening of otherwise inherent critical faculties. Resembling a type of inversely journalistic devil's advocacy, a syndrome that has permeated the edgewise majority (I feel) will probably pick up in the record's wake, and, likewise, generally purport to be in the name of a wider, value judgment-wary cause. One that seeks, in any case, to prevent the fomenting of no-fun, zero-sum, baby-bathwater gripe meltdown scenarios, just as may be known to occur at your local record store (certainly not just this one), music magazine, weblog, et al… or at least to keep them in (small-ish) proportion.
In this they might have achieved something. Almost analogous to the films of Harmony Korine (or maybe not), it's really one for the people to decide. If you're interested, you obviously ought to listen for yourself. [DHo]
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― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 26 February 2004 23:52 (9 years ago) Permalink
what a concept.
― tk, Friday, 27 February 2004 00:21 (9 years ago) Permalink
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― T. Weiss (Timmy), Sunday, 29 February 2004 20:56 (9 years ago) Permalink
New Liars concept album based on "humans trying to survive in LA" due next year.
Sisterworld to be released on Mute in 2010
― Doran, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
excited! though the producer they are working with officially Worries Me.
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:36 (3 years ago) Permalink
What's wrong with Tom Biller? (Never heard of him, BTW; I'm just curious).
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:48 (3 years ago) Permalink
i dunno...just looking at his credits...he's done stuff with Jon Brion, Beck, Kanye West, Rhett Miller, Evan Dando, Elliot Smith, Silversun Pickups, Where the Wild Things Are soundtrack
basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess....
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:52 (3 years ago) Permalink
I can see where you might be coming from Matt, but the one thing I've learned being a Liars stan - don't go into any new album with preconceptions AT ALL.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:55 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah they are def an awesome band and have not let me down but that dudes credentials is like super boring NPR type rock to me....
i basically just hate the way "professional" rock records sound now, so i'm worried about it on just a basic engineering, mix, compression angle
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I just feel like these guys are pretty involved in how their records sound. It seems like they have been up to this point anyway. I can't see them just sitting back like all, whatever. Then again, fuck, maybe that's part of the "concept" - a super-smooth record to fit the L.A. thing. Hard to tell with these guys.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink
yeah i mean it's no dealbreaker, i always think they are interesting and this sounds even more interesting with the whole half-baked concept album steez....i am officially going to buy this sound unseen.
― my gangsta ain't NEVER been on trial (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
it better be a soundtrack for this
― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
That would be amazing.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:03 (3 years ago) Permalink
sounds v. william gibson in conception
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 November 2009 18:11 (3 years ago) Permalink
Thom Yorke, Bradford Cox, Suicide and Melvins on Liars Sisterworld disc two
― Doran, Thursday, 7 January 2010 16:57 (3 years ago) Permalink
appears to have leaked, it's on sordo
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 7 January 2010 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink
urgh file seems fucked, nevermind
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:05 (3 years ago) Permalink
basically just strikes me as some pro nu-indie boring type slick producer i guess
what did you think of the last record? that was more of a slick modern alt-rock record than this one imo
― dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
"humans trying to survive in LA" makes it sound way more sci-fi than it is
coping strategy = hanging out at The Smell, not hoarding gas and going all Mad Max
― dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:16 (3 years ago) Permalink
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wasn't super down with that record really..was "okay" but i guess i'm more of a they were wrong so we drowned type liars person....actually all the first three are good in their own ways
― jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
i guess i'm more of a they were wrong so we drowned type liars person
yeah me too. new one's not as good as that but I like it better than the S/T one. (that had some good songs though, "Clear Island" is badass. some of it sounded like Beck though .... nothing like that on the new one really)
― dmr, Thursday, 7 January 2010 21:51 (3 years ago) Permalink
The Scarecrow "Why d'you pass the bum on the street?" track is one of the best things they've ever done.
I played it on New Year's Eve. Everyone was gobsmacked. (Admittedly some of them started booing but everyone else was going bananas.)
― Doran, Thursday, 7 January 2010 22:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
don't seem to be a lot of folks around here amazed by it, just me. do love it though. listened to it a bunch yesterday. said it reminded me of the cat people theme, and it does, but radiohead's obviously in there too. only complaint i have is that it sort of fizzles at the end.
― preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 5 April 2012 00:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
it's v. good imo
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 April 2012 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
i saw a few people commenting on loving it on my facebook but maybe i'm just virtual friends with the right people. i'm liking it more and more as it happens.
― jed_, Thursday, 5 April 2012 00:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
"only complaint i have is that it sort of fizzles at the end."
yeah it seems like a track that's going to GO APE but doesn't. i'm sure that's a deliberate choice on their part, though.
― jed_, Thursday, 5 April 2012 00:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
i think it's great! i'm excited to hear the rest of the album, too. the recent pitchfork interview suggested that it would be heavily electronic, which sounds wonderful to me.
― 1986 tallest hair contest (Z S), Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Who is producing WIXIW? A while back there was some kind of blog post where they dropped some cryptic remarks about some big shot producer.
― LaMonte, Thursday, 5 April 2012 01:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Daniel Miller.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Thursday, 5 April 2012 02:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
They are such a great band, I love them.
Sisterworld was great
― Shitschnitzel (admrl), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Soundcloud is back:http://soundcloud.com/muterecords/liars-no-1-against-the-rush
SiN Machine 3 days agoLike David Sylvian let loose with a shit drum machine.....interesting
― Shitschnitzel (admrl), Monday, 9 April 2012 01:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
The album's great.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sort of a bit new radiohead-y and a bit Mount Heart Attack-y and a bit pop.
― Conan The Asshander (Doran), Monday, 9 April 2012 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
yes plz
― johnny crunch, Monday, 9 April 2012 23:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
this is great. agree that it fizzles towards the end but ive come to realize that subtlety when it comes to electronic based music always tends to win out in the end. they could have gone for some ridic crescendo/climax and it would have sounded overdone come 5 years. the tone is what they got right here and thats all i can ask for.
― oscar, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
I have a good feeling about this record
― Grime Scene Investigation Unit (admrl), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Love this song! I like the mix of the pretty backing track and the discordant organ bit. There's a terrifying video now also.
― kid steel (cajunsunday), Friday, 20 April 2012 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.npr.org/2012/05/27/153520354/first-listen-liars-wixiwHalfway through, I'm enjoying what I hear. A lot.
― willem, Monday, 28 May 2012 19:25 (11 months ago) Permalink
the single and the opening track are both exactly the sound i didn't know i always wanted liars to make.
― phantompenguin, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:15 (11 months ago) Permalink
Holy crap that opener is gorgeous.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 30 May 2012 03:26 (11 months ago) Permalink
This is really really good. The first 5 tracks especially.
― kid steel (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 16:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
this is so good
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 31 May 2012 17:51 (11 months ago) Permalink
Love this record, btw.
― www.gbokchoymail.com (admrl), Friday, 8 June 2012 23:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
"Brats" is killer
― ilxor, Thursday, 14 June 2012 04:52 (11 months ago) Permalink
This is one of the most horrible things I have ever heard.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 14 June 2012 07:23 (11 months ago) Permalink
Why do you say that?
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 14 June 2012 08:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
To me it's just so ultimately... contemptuous-seeming and ugly. It's just an ugly slog of disparate pieces that don't mesh. It doesn't have any climactic moments. It sounds joyless and dead, and his sarcastic singing voice makes every song sound like a joke. Also, each song pretty much ends in the same place that it started.
I wanted it to be beautiful, but it managed only a clatter of signifiers of beauty.
― Turangalila, Thursday, 14 June 2012 08:28 (11 months ago) Permalink
drum's not dead still holds up imo
― am0n, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:47 (11 months ago) Permalink
It's holding up a corner of my coffee table right now.
― Melissa W, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
ba dum bum
― am0n, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
I listened to this album again this morning and it's great
― mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 19:59 (11 months ago) Permalink
there are a few tracks that are kind of boilerplate liars on the WIXIW but also a few really great tracks - no. 1 against the rush and a ring on every finger are amazing
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 14 June 2012 20:18 (11 months ago) Permalink
Not sure what to make of this. I'm listening to it a lot, and enjoying it, but it seems so in thrall to Kid A, Amnesiac era Radiohead at points as to almost be pastiche. One song bites Cuttooth so hard, and he sings so much like Thom so often, that I don't know if its got its tongue in its cheek.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 6 July 2012 16:13 (10 months ago) Permalink
I don't quite get a radiohead vibe off of the album, but I definitely see where you're coming from.
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Friday, 6 July 2012 18:14 (10 months ago) Permalink
Sick, you asked me what I thought about this record?
(Don't know if I'm just your ~representative RH fan~ or something)
Anyway. Yeah, I can hear a Radiohead-y kind of vibe to the music, but it's more that it just seems to be doing the same kind of '00s cusp indietronica thing. There was a song that sounded exactly like an Appliance song on there as well. For the most part, I quite like the music, the instrumentation is the kind of wibble I like and the arrangements keep my attention well. (I only skipped one song! This is p good.)
BUT.
I disagree that the singer is biting Thom Yorke. If he is, I wish he would do a better job. The problem is, too many indie singers hear Thom doing that thing where he doesn't enunciate and he slurs his consonants in a rush to get to the vowels - and think that's all there is to it. So they mumble along - without realising that what makes Thom such a great singer isn't his lack of enunciation, but his ability to *emote* so that the emotional quality of his voice becomes as important if not more important than than the actual words he's singing.
The singer of this band just kind of mumbles along in a monotone and never really shows much emotion of any kind, he just comes across as lazy. Which is a shame because I actively liked the music on several songs - Octagon and Brats seemed like they could have been quite decent tunes if he'd put some effort in.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 9 July 2012 14:19 (10 months ago) Permalink
That is kind of the exact inverse of what I like about both singers! I like Yorke's voice but sometimes the delivery just seems kind of overblown and I don't quite buy the emoting! I wish the new Liars album was a bit less falsetto-heavy, though, and kind of prefer the drudgey vocal parts.
doesn't enunciate and he slurs his consonants in a rush to get to the vowels
I never noticed Thom Yorke's midwestern america accent until now :)
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:55 (10 months ago) Permalink
Didn't hear any falsetto on this album?
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 9 July 2012 14:59 (10 months ago) Permalink
besides a few moments in the vocals (and that's maybe almost coincidence, i think andrew has his own thing going on that's not remotely yorke-imitation) i'm not really reminded of radiohead, it sounds more like a natural development for they were wrong so we drowned-vibe liars going more electronic. maybe a bit of a surface reading on too few listens, but the main thing i'm getting from it is something like a very sensible meeting between that era of liars and blackest ever black, demdike stare etc-type stuff, or maybe that natural development just naturally ends up there.
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 9 July 2012 15:04 (10 months ago) Permalink
xxp angus andrew is australian!
― Merdeyeux, Monday, 9 July 2012 15:05 (10 months ago) Permalink
iirc "Ill Valley Prodigies" and the one a couple tracks later have some falsetto
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:08 (10 months ago) Permalink
Oh. Ill Valley Prodigies was the one I ended up skipping. Oops.
I repeat, I don't think they're biting Radiohead or whatever, just operating in a similar area.
Boys mumble all over the world, it's not confined to the American Midwest or the Upper Thames Valley.
― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Monday, 9 July 2012 15:13 (10 months ago) Permalink
nah, I meant the vowel elongation, as we midwesterners prooonoouunce eeveery vahhoowel
― hot sauce delivery device (mh), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:17 (10 months ago) Permalink
There are just a handful of (maybe only 2) very specific moments where it sounds like he's singing Yorke lyrics / melodies. One where he sings something very similar to the refrain of Cuttooth - "I don't know why I feel so [something something]" and the rhythm of the delivery is very similar. There's another as well but I'd have to be listening to it to recall it.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 9 July 2012 15:19 (10 months ago) Permalink
Just now listening to this. I can take or leave Liars depending on the particular album, but I definitely approve of WIXIW.
I guess I can kind of hear the post-millenial Radioheadisms mentioned upthread, but the similarities are just on the fringes imo.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 September 2012 18:14 (8 months ago) Permalink
Listened to this about four times in a row yesterday whilst driving across Dartmoor. It was a beautiful day.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 7 September 2012 08:13 (8 months ago) Permalink
This isn't a beautiful album. It's crawling. It's quite desperate, and angry, but subdued. Possibly misantrhopic at points. There are some moments when light breaks through, but not many. Brats is savage. I feel like they're trying to make a point but I'm not sure what about.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 7 September 2012 08:24 (8 months ago) Permalink
Just got Sisterworld. Awesome. Really woozy, unsettling mix and arrangements, like a rock band melted. This band have clicked hard for me in the last six months.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:05 (7 months ago) Permalink
i'm going to need to revisit sisterworld which i never really liked the first time around. but wixiw is really awesome, almost everything i want from liars.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:07 (7 months ago) Permalink
fact magazine have a preview of a Vessel remix of one of the wixiw tracks, pretty bleak
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Thursday, 4 October 2012 18:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
Ha, I bought Sisterworld today too!
Seeing them on the 19th, can't wait.
― nate woolls, Thursday, 4 October 2012 22:59 (7 months ago) Permalink
http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/liars-wixiw-round-39-nicks-choice/
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 19:52 (7 months ago) Permalink