"Maroon 5 is band you're going to be hearing a lot of for many years to come!"

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Just heard this quote on VH1 by some stooge from Entertainment Weekly in regards to their video, "This Love". Now, while I'm sure they're perfectly nice guys, doesn't the notion that Maroon 5 have a long, successful career in front of them seem positively laughable? I mean, Maroon 5 are just this year's Third Eye Blind. Or am I missing something, and they really are the fuckin' second coming?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

are you making this up?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

I wish.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

i've seriously never heard of this band, and the name makes me think it's squirrel nut zippers "response" to mojave three

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

that ol' rivalry

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

are they like thrid eye blind in that they have one undeniable great song and everything else is ass and the lead singer is such a dick we get to feel really really good when their career tanks?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

That's prety accurate, actually....apart from the "undeniable great song" bit (well, "Harder to Breathe" is vaguely tolerable).

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

Maroon5/PhantomPlanet/TheLike are all in the same liferaft. Let's see who eats the others and survives. Those hungry young girlies'll are already chowing on M5's toes and working north. Soon M5'll be opening for them, as opposed to the other.

― bh, Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

Don't forget Rooney!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 08:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

phantom planet is the one with jason 'i really really shouldn't've passed on donnie darko' schwarztman-coppola right?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 February 2004 09:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

Are they worse than Room 5, though? That's the question.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 21 February 2004 09:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

guarantee you they're worse than hi five

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 February 2004 09:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

Buffoon Jive are worse than Fandom Plants.

― bh, Saturday, 21 February 2004 09:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

phantom planet is the one with jason 'i really really shouldn't've passed on donnie darko' schwarztman-coppola right?

I believe he's since been outsted.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 09:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

did they replace him with jake gyllenhaal?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 February 2004 09:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

Nah, just some other greasy ass monkey in a retro-ironic heavy metal softball jersey.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 09:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

Phantom Planet, while I wouldn't go as far as saying they're good, are definitely more interesting than these other bands.

And all these bands, even the Maroon 5, are better than Third Eye Bland.

― djdee2005, Saturday, 21 February 2004 10:38 (9 years ago) Permalink

Maroon 5? Awful fucking name. Worse than Pen 15.

― weather1ngda1eson (Brian), Saturday, 21 February 2004 10:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

Phantom Planet, while I wouldn't go as far as saying they're good, are definitely more interesting than these other band

Agreed.

I think this is Maroon 5's 2nd single. We got some sampler from the album at the college radio station like 2 years ago...its always odd how these sorts of bands catch on (or whatever they do). I think VH1 just played the shit out of their video, much like Jason Mrzrzasa (I don't know if radio was doing this or not). Suddenly there is all these 'funky' white guys and I would like a murder weapon to murder them with.

I checked allmusic and Maroon Five were entitled Kara's Flowers before this with an album under that moniker. Which begs the question which name is more terrible? (x-postish)

Also I am always bothered by allmusic's lack of balls to rip into shitty ass shit like this. Though the review of the last Limp Bizkit album was pretty classic.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Saturday, 21 February 2004 11:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

shitty ass shit!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 21 February 2004 11:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

I remember Kara's Flowers! In a can't remember anything about them except that they existed and I ignored them sort of way. I think they were one of those bands who tried to have a vaguely indie-ish crossover radio hit in the post-"Sex & Candy" era.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 21 February 2004 12:51 (9 years ago) Permalink

The "hit" was called "Soap Disco" and it got heaps of airplay based on the idea that they were going to be huge. They weren't. Bit I remember: "hey mama/ BIG CRASHING BIT/I'm something/ANOTHER BIG CRASHING BIT/Check it out, see what it's all about/Coz this is soap disco/some stupid chorus lyrics". It was rubbish.

Video Hits played the video every week... their album can regularly be sighted in cut-out bins.

― edward o (edwardo), Saturday, 21 February 2004 13:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

I thought they were supposed to be a bad Busted.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Saturday, 21 February 2004 13:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think the new Phantom Planet's pretty good, actually. Though the band may eventually share the same dustbin with Maroon 5, Hoobastank, et al., they're definitely a lot more interesting.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 21 February 2004 15:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

The interesting thing about Maroon 5 is that they're on an independent label (Octone), unlike Schwartzman bands Phantom Planet (Epic) and Rooney (Geffen). I'm in radio and I think I got the first Maroon 5 single worked to me for about 9 months before the first single took off, what was it, six months ago? (no, I've never played them, and Jason Mraz didn't take nearly that long because he had an indie release and relatively huge tour-based fan support to speak on his behalf.)

Anyway, it's not like a small label can't buy its way up the chart, but it can be a little harder. And Maroon 5, once they got going and found some traction, were able to get onto top 40 radio, where PP and Rooney haven't (although I think Rooney might). Will you be hearing a lot of them for many years to come? Eh. The rest of the album is consistent, they seem to write a decent song, and I hear they're good live. That's how Matchbox 20 started off.

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Says the Octone website:

"Octone Records is a NY-based independent record label distributed by BMG Entertainment. The label specializes in developing lifestyle-oriented alternative and rock artists. After initial release, marketing and promotion on Octone, select artists are upstreamed to J Records as part of an exclusive artist development co-venture between J Records and Octone."

Yep, sounds pretty indie to me.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:21 (9 years ago) Permalink

I wanna be upstreamed. But I don't want to sell out, man! Er.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

Early copies of Maroon 5's album came w/ wee stickers with praise from John Mayer. Both their singles are OK. I'm just as liable to flinch & cringe when a "rock band" starts making waves in certain ways, but seperated from that bias, they're OK. The video for "This Love" is a whole different tin of sardines, tho.

Given PP's 180-degree turn from anything sounding like "California" on their newest album, I think they're aiming for obscurity a la Harvey Danger or the Toadies. Or they're trying to ape Yes New York.

― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 21 February 2004 16:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

thanks for the information Josh, but I think most people here know that nearly every small label has at least a distro deal if not a development deal with a major also. Even well-placed small labels like Octone don't get the budget that an act on a major gets, that's part of the point that I was trying to make. Just from my own experience as a small-time radio person, I had one person calling me promoting the Maroon 5 record, and half a dozen each calling me on the PP and Rooney records. I'm just trying to answer the question in the thread title by saying that Maroon 5 has found more success with less resources than PP and Rooney, so maybe they will be around for a while!

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Harder to Breathe" gets a whole lot better if you sing the "whoa-oh oh-oh" part after every line.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

One of my friends likes that song.

I felt bad because I don't. I didn't tell her that. The worst part was she was trying to do air-guitar. Oh Lord! Awful! She was holding the 'guitar' like a baby!!! I wanted to burst out laughing. I just walked out of the class room and into the hall and headed twords the stairs to reccess instead.

― Aja (aja), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:37 (9 years ago) Permalink

> nearly every small label has at least a distro deal if not a development deal with a major also.

Distro, maybe, but development? Anyway, I find it hard to believe that Maroon 5 made it onto MTV, VH1, radio, etc., without a big, big push ($$$) from a major label. The question is, if their ghost-underwriter dropped out, would they still do as well? I mean, Ruster Root still tours, as do a host of other like-minded bands, but their profile has dropped precipitously. So will I be hearing Maroon 5 for many years to come? Not likely, unless they stay as high-profile as they currently are, which means major label moo-lah.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

i like the OC theme song which is by phantom planet! (speaking of rooney)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

That should be Rusted Root, of course.

― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh god, more crap for drunk girls to play to get me "in the mood"

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

Rooney sucks!

I begged and pleaded for my mom to change the station when their song came on. BUT FOR SOME REASON< SHE WOULDN'T!!!

What the Hell!!!

I was pissed. I laid down on the backseat of the car and tried to think of something to get my attention away from the god awful song!

― Aja (aja), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

sounds like the beginning of a short story

― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

How old are you Aja?

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:48 (9 years ago) Permalink

― Aja (aja), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

We should all post our ages as part of our posts from now on. It will clear up a number of things.

― Andy K, 65 (Andy K), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

Why'd you want to know my age Jon?

I thought you already knew?

― Aja (aja), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Rusted Root, up to their last album at least, was still on Island/Def Jam, who does throw around a bit of money (no one throws a party like they do), so there you go. And Clive Davis/J/BMG is notorious for fucking up the promotion strategy of rock bands and/or A&Ring them poorly in the first place, so that's actually another strike against Maroon 5. Most of these development deals work like this: the baby label works the band until they sell x number of records (usually 25K-50K) and then the major steps in with their marketing muscle.

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

This explains a lot!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

My age?

― Aja (aja), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yes!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Saturday, 21 February 2004 17:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

What does it explain?

― Aja (aja), Saturday, 21 February 2004 18:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

well if we're gonna compare "Semi-Charmed Life" to "Harder To Breathe," I sure fuckin' hope that Maroon 5 don't last as long as 3EB. And frankly, judging by that damn american dreams thing and his Vanessa Carlton jazz, I don't think Stephan Jenkins is going away anytime soon. I actually found what I heard off Out Of The Vein pleasantly mellow compared to the overproduced Blue.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 21 February 2004 18:07 (9 years ago) Permalink

The label specializes in developing lifestyle-oriented alternative and rock artists.

What on earth does this mean?

― jazz odysseus, Saturday, 21 February 2004 18:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

Pot. Lots of it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 21 February 2004 18:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think it has something to do with Friends.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 21 February 2004 18:35 (9 years ago) Permalink

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I love their last two singles.

― Tim F, Friday, 14 September 2007 00:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

The new single sucks. If they'd released "Kiwi," they'd have another Number One. What a poet -- if Adam Levine were my boyfriend I'd want him to compare me to a furry fruit with gelatinous juice.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 01:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

You don't mean "Wake Up Call" do you Alfred? That's the current single in Australia. So good to hear on the radio - I love a big fat obvious punch line.

― Tim F, Friday, 14 September 2007 05:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

Their photograph on the Rolling Stone of about a month ago could quite possibly be the most hateful, irritating photo to ever grace that periodical's cover in DECADES.

― Alex in NYC, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

...hateful? was he bathing in babies' blood?

― ^@^, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

He was holding up a copy of Alex's first post to this thread in a "Dewey Defeats Truman"

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

fashion

― Dom Passantino, Friday, 14 September 2007 13:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

i could totally see adam levine giving an enthusiastic description of some '80s pop nugget before slamming a wire hanger into some poor fan's vagina.

"Wake Up Call" hasn't really clicked for me, but random line deliveries from "Makes Me Wonder" stick in my head all the time. Usually the way he says "want to dive into you." Dude's got the most amazing/disturbing stare in music today.

― da croupier, Friday, 14 September 2007 14:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hate "Wake Up Call."

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 14 September 2007 14:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

The only feasible number one single off IWBSBL apart from of course Makes me Wonder is the third single "Won't go Home Without You." Pretty much every song on the album is top ten material though.

― butchy, Friday, 14 September 2007 20:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

He was holding up a copy of Alex's first post to this thread in a "Dewey Defeats Truman" fashion

Hahaha - I hope he's reading this. (Adam Levine that is, not Alex)

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 15 September 2007 08:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Not Truman either

― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 15 September 2007 08:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Why do gay people love Maroon 5 singer?

― pft, Saturday, 15 September 2007 09:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

because no one in the history of pop culture has ever overcompensated more.

― da croupier, Saturday, 15 September 2007 13:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

possibly in the history of time itself

― da croupier, Saturday, 15 September 2007 13:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Why do gay people love Maroon 5 singer?

We gay people keep wishing he pens a song worthy of his looks and douchebaggery. He's almost there.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 15 September 2007 13:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

Actually I think part of it is that gay men have this weird mythology thing going for straight guys who appear to get a lot of sex. There are a lot of possible explanations for this.

Plus there's his occasional tendency to look like Jack from Lost:

― Tim F, Saturday, 15 September 2007 13:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well, Levine projects promiscuity.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 15 September 2007 13:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah totally - much more than actual hotness oddly.

― Tim F, Saturday, 15 September 2007 13:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

He's clever enough to sense this and start writing "pervy" songs like "Wake Up Call" and "Kiwi," both of which represent what his fans want him to be. I see him losing interest in future "She Will Be Loved"s.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 15 September 2007 13:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

I see him losing interest in female pronouns too.

― da croupier, Saturday, 15 September 2007 14:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

feminine pronouns, rather.

― da croupier, Saturday, 15 September 2007 14:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well, Levine projects promiscuity

Does he? I really don't understand why gay people thinks so.

― pft, Saturday, 15 September 2007 18:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Wake Up Call" is kind of great, guys.

― HI DERE, Saturday, 15 September 2007 18:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

Does he? I really don't understand why gay people thinks so

All we do is think about sex.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 15 September 2007 19:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

there is no message to their music or videos beyond "women can't stop fucking Adam Levine."

― da croupier, Saturday, 15 September 2007 19:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

i suppose these visuals and lyrics are picked up on their "gaydar."

― da croupier, Saturday, 15 September 2007 19:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

there is no message to their music or videos beyond "women can't stop fucking Adam Levine."

That's such a classic message in pop music though. Remember Joe Jackson's 1980 single "Is She Really Going To Engage In Sexual Intercourse With That Chump From Maroon 5?"

― Cunga, Sunday, 16 September 2007 01:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

"I Knew The Bride When She Used To Fuck Adam Levine."

― da croupier, Sunday, 16 September 2007 05:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Hall and Oates' "I Can't Go For That (Levine You Do)"

― Cunga, Sunday, 16 September 2007 05:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

I met this guy, I'm pretty sure I get more sex thna him. Also, I am DRUNK.

― Spencer Chow, Sunday, 16 September 2007 11:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

this dude reminds me of patrick bateman

otm

― latebloomer, Sunday, 16 September 2007 17:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I'd never heard this band before today, when their song "I won't go home without you" came on the radio in a shoe store. It sounded almost exactly like the Smoking Popes to my ears. Is this deliberate?

― Dog/Face/Chain (res), Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Every time this thread is revived Alex in NYC's thread-title becomes more lolsworthy.

― Tim F, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:28 (4 years ago) Permalink

Maroon5/PhantomPlanet/TheLike are all in the same liferaft. Let's see who eats the others and survives. Those hungry young girlies'll are already chowing on M5's toes and working north. Soon M5'll be opening for them, as opposed to the other.
― bh, Saturday, February 21, 2004 3:59 AM (4 years ago) Bookmark

Guess it was M5 that survived after all.

― Pillbox, Saturday, 18 October 2008 04:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I don't think I ever heard "The Like" even. Whereas Maroon 5, I am dimly aware that they continue to have a career. And even though I can't specifically recall any songs they've done since "This Love," I still find myself trying to describe other things I hear as being vaguely Maroon 5-esque.

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 18 October 2008 05:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sure they had some decent size hits this past yeat. I don't generally listen to the radio, though, so I haven't heard anything.

― Pillbox, Saturday, 18 October 2008 05:04 (4 years ago) Permalink

People who listen to the radio would know:

She Will Be Loved
Harder To Breathe (I think this is what it's called)
Sunday Morning
Makes Me Wonder
Wake Up Call
I Won't Go Home Without You
If I Never See Your Face Again

That's a very big number of radio staples from just two albums.

― Tim F, Saturday, 18 October 2008 05:06 (4 years ago) Permalink

they sound like a very very sleazy version of The Police.

― Cannabis Zed Omega (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 18 October 2008 06:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

I like them. Especially the one with Rhianna.

― dan selzer, Saturday, 18 October 2008 07:46 (4 years ago) Permalink

Actually I forgot to mention that although the tune (particularly the chorus) sounds like the great Smoking Popes, the song has none of the energy of the Smoking Popes, and in fact sounds like what the Smoking Popes might have sounded like if they had tried to get crossover appeal like all the other soulless bullshit on mainstream radio. Yuck!

― Dog/Face/Chain (res), Saturday, 18 October 2008 14:05 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

well damn

― Chris S, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Somebody was right. and it wasn't AlexNYC...

― Mark G, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 10:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Alex In NYC is wrong about a lot of things and sadly, he was wrong about this.

― Cold Chisel dude Cold Chisel (King Boy Pato), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 11:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's not my fault our species is largely comprised of slackjawed idiots without taste.

― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

― dayove cool (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

yay!

― Mark G, Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Maroon 5!

Oh wait...

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:56 (10 months ago) Permalink

Gotta say that "Payphone" has been a serious earworm for me over the last week or so. I wake up with that in my head at least every other day. I'll hand it to them for that...although I wonder: Is Wiz Khalifa the guy that Adam Levine is trying to call from a payphone? Why is he so upset?

― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 26 July 2012 23:38 (10 months ago) Permalink

"Payphone" was spawned in a deep layer of hell.

― The Reverend, Friday, 27 July 2012 00:04 (10 months ago) Permalink

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