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ha ha!

just realised that i am listening to 'misunderstood' by wilco and feeling sorry for myself. ha ha. what am i like?

jimmy the doom saint, Friday, 20 February 2004 11:39 (11 years ago) Permalink

Don't worry, it just means you like Peter Laughner

Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 February 2004 11:43 (11 years ago) Permalink

he's the guy from the original mirrors/proto pere ubu?

right?

wilco are the hipster's version of springsteen.

jimmy the doom saint, Friday, 20 February 2004 11:44 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah he wrote most of the lyrics for that song, unbeknownst to him

Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 February 2004 11:46 (11 years ago) Permalink

That's my favorite song of theirs, "Misunderstood."

Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 20 February 2004 11:50 (11 years ago) Permalink

i love wilco. i am a caliban of ilx. ha ha.

which song do they use? i've got a comp of proto-ubu stuff i've not made through yet. i could have a listen tonight.

jimmy the saints, Friday, 20 February 2004 11:52 (11 years ago) Permalink

(Actually I dunno if it was "most", but a LOT and kind of the germ of the thing). It's mine too Sonny. J I think it's called "Amphetamine" or something, I've never heard it. Someone here will've, tho. I think it might say in the Wilco liner notes actually

Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 February 2004 11:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

yeah its amphetimine.

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDCASS70402200601010102&sql=A3fzsa9wgq230

cool i've got that one. yeah i dig that wilco song alot.

jimmy the doom saint, Friday, 20 February 2004 11:56 (11 years ago) Permalink

AH BUT IS IT A WILCO SONG blah blah

Silly Sailor (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 February 2004 11:59 (11 years ago) Permalink

I love Wilco too. I don't care if it's hip dad music. I can't wait to hear the new CD.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Friday, 20 February 2004 19:50 (11 years ago) Permalink

I'm down with Wilco. Though they sucked when they headlined the annual outdoor festival last April. The audience was bored and Tweedy got all "oh I'm so glad we're challenging you" and shit. I should have yelled for him to eat a dick.

Summerteeth roolz.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 February 2004 22:20 (11 years ago) Permalink

it really is their best one. new album coming soon.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 21 February 2004 00:53 (11 years ago) Permalink

I should note that Bubba Sparxxx (playing Deliverance stuff before it came out) was far far worse (I just wasn't drunk yet so I didn't really care). I missed the Get Up Kids, which played between the two acts.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 21 February 2004 00:57 (11 years ago) Permalink

6 years pass...

so has jeff tweedy had like work done, cos around the eye area

plax (ico), Monday, 21 June 2010 11:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

ksh, where u at

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

he won't return my calls anymore, sorry plax

ksh, Monday, 21 June 2010 15:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Can't wait for Wilco to release its metal-influenced album so we can watch ksh go apeshit.

ilxor has truly been got at and become an ILXor (ilxor), Monday, 21 June 2010 15:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

would buy

ksh, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

always thought uncle tupelo had some metal leanings every now and again.

tylerw, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Black Eye" was actually the inspiration for a lot of USBM iirc

ksh, Monday, 21 June 2010 16:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

perfect for a low key Friday afternoon hanging around

markers, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

listened to Wilco (The Album) for the first time in a while last week ... prety meh, actually! Just sounded workmanlike, not very inspired. Still think this version of Wilco has a great album in 'em, but that one ain't it.

tylerw, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

On Rolling Nels Cline Thread, I wrote:

Wilco (the album) is a much better record [than Sky Blue Sky], and one that I'll listen to much more as time passes, but it really is a "Whitman sampler of the different aspects and obsessions of Wilco," as Tweedy called it. You have the Neu! motorik thing they did on "Spiders (Kidsmoke)" on "Bull Black Nova," the obvious "I'm A Wheel"/"Monday"/"Can't Stand It" rocker tune ("Wilco (the song)"), the unassuming acoustic number "Solitaire," which recalls "Dash 7," "Far, Far Away," "Radio Cure," "Muzzle of Bees," and most of SBS. The whole record really is a summation of their career.

markers, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

In that same post, I said:

Wilco is primarily a vehicle for Tweedy's creativity, and although things seem to be more stable for the band now insofar as the lineup is concerned -- no one has been fired in five years, and everyone including Tweedy (see the new Rolling Stone interview) seems to feel good about the band as a unit -- I don't think he will ever be in a place where he'd want to make another Yankee Hotel Foxtrot/A ghost is born pseudoexperimental record again. I doubt Nels will get to do any truly radical work in Wilco. (The most "radical" things he does on the new record, which are not "radical" at all, really, are these strange little backwards-guitar solos at the end of "One Wing" and "Everlasting Everything" and some feedback-soaked guitar work at the end of "Bull Black Nova.")

markers, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah, that's otm -- i just think they've done better versions of all of those things on previous albums.

tylerw, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

they may prove me wrong on that last point, though. I've read them say things that gave me the feeling they might go more experimental on the next LP

markers, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

maybe i need to hear live versions of these tunes -- that's what turned me around on SBS.

tylerw, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

maybe! they were great live when I saw them last summer. still prefer to hear them play something like "Spiders" than anything on the new record, though

markers, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

but yeah, i think it's sort of a mistake to look at nels cline for some injection of "out there-ness" though he's obviously capable of it. Nels is probably more interested in fitting into the mainstream aspects of the band -- he's certainly got plenty of other outlets for the experimental stuff.

tylerw, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah! i think he's said as much in interviews. Glenn too. "we just play what's good for the songs." so both of them have their side projects where they do the more out their stuff, and then when they come into a Wilco sessions they just try to suit the needs of whatever's before them.

if you look at the entire Wilco discography, Jeff's probably responsible for the most out their stuff. like the solos on a ghost is born. although Jim O'Rourke probably did a lot of crazy stuff on YHF and agib, and Bennett added a lot to the former record too

markers, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

out *there*

markers, Friday, 23 July 2010 20:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

wilco sux

del griffith, Friday, 23 July 2010 21:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

tylerw, Friday, 23 July 2010 21:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

i love passenger side so much

who's got the (platform) 9 3/4ths? (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 September 2010 16:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
3 months pass...

http://pitchfork.com/news/41372-wilco-start-their-own-label/

markers, Thursday, 27 January 2011 03:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

fuuuuuuuuck, "can't stand it" is a dope album opener

markers, Friday, 29 July 2011 04:50 (4 years ago) Permalink

summerteeth is so good

markers, Friday, 29 July 2011 04:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

however you might feel, tonight is real

markers, Friday, 29 July 2011 04:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

listen close when you click and my face gets sick, stuck, like a question unposed

markers, Friday, 29 July 2011 04:52 (4 years ago) Permalink

wilco circa 1999-2004 was just unfuckwithable

markers, Friday, 29 July 2011 05:00 (4 years ago) Permalink

I love that "can't stand it" was added at the last minute because reprise didn't hear a single on summerteeth.

Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 July 2011 06:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

PoeticLava says:
I saw Jeff Tweedy at the North Side Chicago Chipotle 6 years ago. Don’t know what he ordered.

markers, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 21:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Daft Punk and the Replacements among many more

curmudgeon, Saturday, 22 June 2013 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 22 June 2013 23:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 June 2013 00:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wilco album that is

calstars, Friday, 17 July 2015 17:45 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i appreciate the liberal use of flange

flappy bird, Friday, 17 July 2015 19:12 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

"magnetized" is one of the best wilco songs ever

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 17 July 2015 19:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

yeah wow, that one is great

tylerw, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:06 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

My wife made me turn the album down a little. Take that, dad rock!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Love the end of "Where Do I Begin" with the backwards drums and crazy guitar lead

Immediate Follower (NA), Friday, 17 July 2015 20:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Magnetized is nice but compared to the closing track of the previous album it's a trifle

My favourite on this is More, I think - awesome track

gawker's psychotic monkeys (imago), Friday, 17 July 2015 20:32 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Last song has some Mercury Rev vibes.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:36 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

best album since Ghost, easy.

no boring stuff. yay

PaulTMA, Friday, 17 July 2015 20:48 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

First five tracks are all great, really - a little bit of coasting in the second half but it's a nice record yeah

gawker's psychotic monkeys (imago), Friday, 17 July 2015 20:55 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

A super welcome surprise after the last couple records. Btf, I liked The Whole Love but they were obviously trying really hard to deliver a Classic Wilco Album, and while it had experimental bits it lacked the genuine adventurousness of their best stuff.

Still not into Nels Cline - he's a little too "Rig Rundown" for me. Like, even when he's trying to be raw and loose it sounds like his guitar's going through at least a whole board of boutique pedals

Really feelin' "More...", "You Satellite" and "Magnetized"

bunny slopes, Friday, 17 July 2015 22:28 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Killin' it on the 'Fork livestream right now.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 July 2015 02:13 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

they totally had a mercury rev vibe for the first half of their set tonight. even tweedy was shredding. it ruled.

Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 18 July 2015 03:59 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

That's funny, my first ever big concert was Mercury Rev opening for Wilco. I tired out halfway thru Wilco but Mercury Rev was magical, I remember Jonathan Donahue in a shiny magenta shirt.

geoffreyess, Saturday, 18 July 2015 05:47 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Thought Tweedy was kinda pushy and nevery in Mavis Staples doc footage where he decided he and his son would add instrumentation to late Pop Staples tapes, but back with Wilco I am kind of liking some of this new one.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 18 July 2015 16:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Glenn and Nels own this record.

kwhitehead, Monday, 20 July 2015 22:04 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Every album since YHF makes it more and more clear how essential Jay Bennett was to the band.

Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Monday, 20 July 2015 22:33 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

was weird/sad that the cover of the chicago reader's pitchfork fest issue had bennett on it...

tylerw, Monday, 20 July 2015 22:36 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

make that "ghost jay bennett"

tylerw, Monday, 20 July 2015 22:37 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

It's the Chicago Reader; I'm not surprised in the least.

kwhitehead, Monday, 20 July 2015 22:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

yeah that's tasteless

Van Horn Street, Monday, 20 July 2015 22:57 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

is ariel pink being protested by two people holding signs with rabbits crossed out. the fuck is that

flappy bird, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:16 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

also jfc @ jim derogatis with the mirror

flappy bird, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 02:17 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I'm a little surprised at the amount of pushback the band seems to have gotten for playing its new (less than 12 hour old) record in its entirety at Pitchfork. The last time I saw a band at Pitchfork do something surprising was maybe when the Thermals started their set with a handful of '90s alt-rock hits. I wish more bands everywhere would treat festival gigs as more than just another night and do something unique, unexpected or one-off. Boring is a fair criticism, but no Wilco set could have countered that criticism. But indulgent? Man, Panda Bear was indulgent *and* boring, and looked stupid in broad daylight, too. But hey, different strokes ...

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 14:34 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

playing the new one is the best thing i can imagine! i would've probably liked that better than the greatest hits set i saw last week.

tylerw, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 14:41 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Glenn and Nels own the record? Exciting; best things about this band by far.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 14:47 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Actually, I think as Tweedy gets noisier and solos more himself it's harder to distinguish some of his squonk from Nels (on record). Obviously Nels is a ridiculous guitarist (though I'm not a huge fan, tbh), but his insane precision actually often plays to my ears as a sort of surreal restraint - that is, he is too good to totally go off the map - whereas Tweedy is an OK guitarist, but knows how to play the wrong things at the right time in I suppose a more natural (as opposed to Nels' supernatural) weird way.

My fave thing about Glenn is that his kit keeps shrinking but he keeps putting out the same amount of wildly inventive noise.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:33 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

That's a very good description.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:43 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Didn't Sonic Youth play Daydream Nation at p4k? Perhaps I got this wrong.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:44 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

It's the Chicago Reader; I'm not surprised in the least.

― kwhitehead, Monday, July 20, 2015 5:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't get it -- what aren't you surprised by, and why aren't you surprised by it?

jaymc, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:46 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Didn't Sonic Youth play Daydream Nation at p4k? Perhaps I got this wrong.

They did, but it was announced as part of a collaboration between P4k and All Tomorrow's Parties.

jaymc, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 15:48 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Oh yes now I remember

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:05 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I never thought I'd get wistful for the days of the Red Hot Chili Peppers dressing up as lightbulbs.

Seriously, though, remember when a selling point of the first Lollapalooza was who might pop up on the stage with whom? Now it's just, like, another night, another gig. I wonder if that's the natural product of bands forced into festival labor. They have to schedule tours around fests, they don't have the luxury of saying no to fests. Once the fests and their non-competition clauses kick in, it's a matter of plugging in live dates between fests, which not only basically means festivals do become just another stop on the tour, but the bands don't have the time or incentive to make fest stops special.

Probably better discussed/debated in another thread.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:20 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I don't get it -- what aren't you surprised by, and why aren't you surprised by it?

The Chicago Reader has always rubbed me the wrong way, esp. the music writers. It's seems to be a contest as to who can name check the most obscure bands. They act somewhat record store employees did in the '90's, judging your purchases, too hip to make eye contact, etc.

And also, the general quality of writing is suspect. They have existed for too long without any real competition.

kwhitehead, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

At their best Wilco strike me as competent, lifeless guitar rock, but an early 2005 show promoting AGIB impressed me. The Pitchfork set didn't. Most of Friday's performances verged on the narcoleptic.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I'll give you "competent" and "guitar rock" but at least by the standard set by several of this weekend's acts, I dunno about "lifeless."

They have existed for too long without any real competition.

Ironically, this is because they've outlasted much of the competition! Which, tbf, was never terribly competitive.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 16:58 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I'm liking "More..." but I wish there was more liveliness to the production. The drums and bass sit so quietly in the mix and I don't think I'm a fan of the way they're using hard panning.

timellison, Tuesday, 21 July 2015 18:15 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I'm a bit conflicted with the band. I loved everything up to YHF. I thought A Ghost Is Born was a bit aimless sounding so I stopped paying attention to them until I heard some buzz around Sky Blue Sky which I checked out but found it completely unmemorable. I picked up "The Whole Love" at the local library and I was surprised how much I dug it though. I love this new one too. "Magnetized" is a great track, like ELO on downers.

tayto fan (Michael B), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 13:55 (1 week ago) Permalink

Really loving this new one, feels loose and like a band that's just letting it out and has played together for a long time

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 14:00 (1 week ago) Permalink

Didn't realize the new one was free until I looked at this thread. Based on one go-through in the car, "You Satellite" definitely jumped out as my favourite. Tweedy sounds a lot like Lennon on "More."

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 20:11 (1 week ago) Permalink

I would call this very good karma:

This message has arrived in your inbox because you downloaded Wilco's new album Star Wars. Thanks for that and we hope you're enjoying the new tunes.

Now a bit of background... We consider ourselves lucky to be in the position to give you this music free of charge, but we do so knowing not every band, label or studio can do the same. Much of the “music business” relies on physical sales to keep the lights on and the mics up. Without that support, well, it gets tougher and tougher to make it all work.

With that in mind, Wilco has put together a list of some of their favorite recent releases. We encourage you to explore it (and beyond) and yep, even march down to your neighborhood record shop and BUY. There’s a lot of great music out there, lets all try to support it. After all, it's the years of support (and purchases) of Wilco's music that allowed us to do what we did last week.

Adron - Organismo
Cibo Matto - Hotel Valentine
Empyrean Atlas - Inner Circle
Eleventh Dream Day - Works for Tomorrow
Full of Hell, Merzbow - Full of Hell & Merzbow
Game Theory - Real Nighttime
Girlpool - Before the World Was Big
Invisible Familiars - Disturbing Wildlife
Landlady - Upright Behavior
Luluc - Passerby
Ned Doheny - Hard Candy
Parquet Courts - Content Nausea
Richard Julian - Fleur de Lis
Scott Walker + Sunn O))) - Soused
Speedy Ortiz - Foil Deer
Steve Gunn - Way Out Weather
William Tyler - Deseret Canyon
Thanks for listening (and sometimes buying),

- HQ

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:08 (1 week ago) Permalink

Alright for William Tyler getting a mention!

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:34 (1 week ago) Permalink

Totally. I picked that up, the Luluc and the Empyrean Atlas, the latter two of which were totally unfamiliar to me but seemed cool enough.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2015 02:42 (1 week ago) Permalink

thats really cool

just sayin, Thursday, 23 July 2015 03:54 (1 week ago) Permalink

Game Theory!

Blood On The Knobs, Thursday, 23 July 2015 05:50 (1 week ago) Permalink

man, "magnetized." it's been a long time since a song like this made me feel like this

soyrev, Thursday, 23 July 2015 07:11 (1 week ago) Permalink

yeah just got that, very cool

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 July 2015 13:54 (1 week ago) Permalink

Totally. I picked that up, the Luluc and the Empyrean Atlas, the latter two of which were totally unfamiliar to me but seemed cool enough.

I like the Empyrean Atlas too. I had to check if Nels Cline wasn´t playing guitar with them, it´s exactly the same sound and style (crying whales!)

EvR, Saturday, 1 August 2015 20:46 (3 days ago) Permalink

Played through their whole catalog earlier this week. AGIB has aged really well, and in fact the first half of Sky Blue Sky is some of their best stuff. Still not so crazy about its second half but everything up to "Side with the Seeds" is A+.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 1 August 2015 21:36 (3 days ago) Permalink

i probably think "Hate It Here" is my favorite Wilco song.

Bee OK, Saturday, 1 August 2015 21:53 (3 days ago) Permalink


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