― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 30 January 2004 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 January 2004 21:13 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 30 January 2004 21:31 (twenty years ago) link
Maybe Liz is simply really bad at enunciation.:
Some fans attempts to transcribe CT's catalogue to English
Favorite comment: such a way with words, to be writing about blowing one's nose
I don't know how well known that resource is, but they collect some fairly obscure lyric translations, Disco Inferno and the like.
― derelict, Saturday, 18 October 2008 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Another attempt at a working link:
Some fan attempts to transcribe CT's catalogue to English
― derelict, Saturday, 18 October 2008 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Foiled again, above link is close but this is the correct link I intended.
― derelict, Saturday, 18 October 2008 00:18 (fifteen years ago) link
"Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon"
― Pillbox, Saturday, 18 October 2008 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Beetles and eggs and blues and bells and eggs and then bluesBeetles and eggs and blues and pour a little everything elseYou steam our unstable eyes and glass
― Granny Dainger, Saturday, 18 October 2008 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link
from "half-gifts":
Intimacy is when we're in the same place at the same timeDealing honestly with how we feel, and who we really are
That's what grown-ups doThat is mature thinking
I just have to know how to be in the processOf creating things in a better wayAnd it hurts but it's a lie that I can't handle itI still have a world of me-ness to fulfillI still have a life, and it's a rich one even with mourningEven with grief and sadness
...yikes
― donna rouge, Saturday, 18 October 2008 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link
He's a hustlerIt's a role, he'll never make a suitHang on to thisSo stay and spin and fail and failWho'll ever win?Gee, you're just so ephemeralGo back for newFor new in vain, it failed
― Pillbox, Saturday, 18 October 2008 00:28 (fifteen years ago) link
This is fun! Very similar to those paranoid Christians who listened to metal records backward and heard literal, deliberate hidden messages.
― Pillbox, Saturday, 18 October 2008 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh my god, this stuff kills me. I mean as if we didn't know all along that she was saying "Wheezing & Sneezing". May as well admit it!!!!
― Roasted Ghost (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 18 October 2008 02:11 (fifteen years ago) link
But some of them are just so obviously off the mark and stupid. Didn't she specifically say in at least one interview that often her words were utter gibberish?
― Roasted Ghost (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 18 October 2008 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
i don't know if anyone has seen this yet, or if it has already been posted, but:
― cutty, Saturday, 8 November 2008 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Thank you, this is brilliant.
― ilxor, Saturday, 8 November 2008 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Jesus for the fuck of love, are you kidding? THAT IS A FUCKING AMERICAN MADE VIDEO FOR THE LOVE OF...THAT IS FUCKING ORGASMIC MAN. You don't understand. If I'd even heard the name "Cocteau Twins" on US TV when I was fucking 13 or 14 years old. Oh my god. Let's watch it again. And this is supposed to be about Newport, Illinois, right? Please someone confirm this is the town they're talking about (a town I've never even heard of). I can't even fathom it. Where is all this really happening? It wasn't in MY little US hometown at the time, I'll tell you that! Jesus H.! All I had were the odd imported MM and NME's and the local college radio station. Fucking Cocteau Twins on TV!!! PLAY THE CLIP AGAIN!!!!
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 05:09 (fifteen years ago) link
lol awesome "influencing mainstream music for years to come"
― winston, Saturday, 8 November 2008 05:11 (fifteen years ago) link
WHAAT IN THE LIVING FUCK IS THAT CARDBOARD DISPLAY AT THE BEGINNING WITH LIZ FRAZER IN A FUCKING 1920'S FLAPPER HAT??? WHAT IN THE LIVING FUCK???? I DID NOT SEE THAT DISPLAY AT MY LOCAL RECORD STORE WHEN I WAS A TEENAGER FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 05:22 (fifteen years ago) link
LOOK AT THE MULTIPLE COPIES OF "PEARLY DEWDROPS" 12"!!!! I never even saw that many in a store!!!
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 05:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I had at least two of the haircuts featured. Newsletter! Pre-fanzine, that was.
― bendy, Saturday, 8 November 2008 06:03 (fifteen years ago) link
Cocteau fever has hit!
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Saturday, 8 November 2008 07:04 (fifteen years ago) link
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE GODDAMN URL FOR THAT CLIP ABOVE ON YOU TUBE TELL ME NOW NO WNO WNO WNOW WNOW NOW N GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE IF YOU DON'T SHARE THE WEALTH OH I HATE YOU RIGHT NOW
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 07:05 (fifteen years ago) link
fuCK i FOUND IT IT'S UNDER COCTEAU FEVER!!!! gOD LOVES ME i"M GOING TO EAT (WATCH) IT 5 BILLION MORE TIMES TONIGHT
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 07:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Poor little insignificant MBV...lived in their shadow didn't they? As of all shoegazing bands...oh so sad. You folks wanted to believe the 90's were that significant, but sorry to break it to you...
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 07:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Also does anyone here remember that Offense newsletter mentioned in the clip? I remember reading about that, but never had an actual copy of it.
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link
Okay, actually I know where I heard of the Offense newsletter, now. I posted an article about Crispy Ambulance from that publication on my blog here. I never actually saw the rest of this issue, though, only that article. Someone made me a copy of it long ago.
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
WOW at that video
― Andy K, Saturday, 8 November 2008 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link
God, god, god. If I'd only KNOWN they were playing in Ohio in September 1985 and I'd had hipper parents who knew about it then they could FLY ME THERE.
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 14:35 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean if you were in Virginia, in another state miles away, how the HELL would you know that the fucking Cocteau Twins were playing dates in your country, even? Except through word of mouth if you were lucky? The internet sure flattened the globe, didn't it?
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link
yay, that Columbus show was on my birthday!
― henry s, Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link
Yay!!!!
But seriously, the black dude in the clip (last part of it) - doesn't his hair look like it's going to start spinning around and lift off like a stereotypical round UFO? I'm serious, man.
Also I tried to dress Cocteau-like back then. I had a satiny green shirt. But never mind.
― The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 8 November 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link
great footage, really captures the befuddlement of straight media around the post-punk underground. seems like every video I see from back then has the obligatory "we're just like normal people" segment.
― sleeve, Saturday, 8 November 2008 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link
So, so great, thanks for posting.
― Brad C., Saturday, 8 November 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link
What song are they playing at the 2:15 mark?
― ilxor, Sunday, 9 November 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link
"Pale Clouded White" from Echoes In A Shallow Bay.
― LeRooLeRoo, Sunday, 9 November 2008 01:12 (fifteen years ago) link
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE CRUCIAL QUESTION DUDE!!!
*HIGH FIVE*
I asked myself that same question, because of course the song was recognizable, but who can match a Cocteaus song to a song title? Anyway, it's the song where you can clearly hear her sing "Aurora Borealis" right? And I found out from flipping through my iPod that it is "PALE CLOUDED WHITE" from the fucking UNBELIEVABLY BRILLIANT "TINY DYNAMINE/ECHOES IN A SHALLOW BAY" DOUBLE EP/CD WHICH IS WHERE MOST OF MY HIGH SCHOOL MEMORIES ARE STILL STORED.
I just want to have a romantic relationship with someone who likes Cocteaus, Joy Division (or early New Order) and The Fall. That's what I want out of a partner. Please email if you fit the description, thanks. I don't care what else you listen to all day, either.
xpost
― Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 9 November 2008 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I just want to have a romantic relationship with someone who likes Cocteaus, Joy Division (or early New Order) and The Fall. That's what I want out of a partner.
Well, Bimble, if you don't mind my having a penis...
― ilxor, Sunday, 9 November 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Heh, that video was fuckin hilarious. Small town news! So funny.
― Trayce, Sunday, 9 November 2008 07:59 (fifteen years ago) link
Haha. Actually, I don't mind at all. :)
― Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 9 November 2008 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link
But going back to the clip posted above...some guy posted on my blog who remembers that gig and some of those people. He said he dated that girl you see for a sec in the middle of it. What kills me is the part where the news guy says "They say they try to look this way because it's FUN and DIFFERENT, many say they look normal during the day...".
Something about the way that guy says "FUN & DIFFERENT" just kills me.
― Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 9 November 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link
from cocteautwins.org, here are the tour dates. note that there is a setlist for this gig, there may even be a boot.
September 15, 1985 Los Angeles, USA (Hollywood Palace)[The Spanglemaker, Dear Heart, Aikea Guinea..........]
September 17, 1985 San Francisco, USA (Wolfgangs)
September 18, 1985 Columbus, Ohio, USA (Newport Music Hall)[The Spangle Maker, Dear Heart, Aikea Guinea, Pale Clouded White, Lorelei, From The Flagstones, Rococo, Plain Tiger, Pearly Dewdrops' Drops, Pepper Tree, Pink Orange Red, Musette & Drums, Pink Orange Red (encore), Pearly Dewdrops' Drops (encore)]
September 21, 1985 Boston, USA The Paradise
September 23, 1985 New York, USA The Ritz
betting you that a bunch of people who drove "hundreds of miles" were from Chicago.
― sleeve, Sunday, 9 November 2008 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Duly noted, thanks very much!
― Your Head Is Full of Diamonds & Lice (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 9 November 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
Aaahhhh... the 80s... music newsletters, REEL TO REEL TAPE PLAYERS ONSTAGE (what bands did before there were laptops!), the haircuts... newsreader gets skinny leather tie to fit in at Cocteaus show? WTF? Oh dear.
― post-apocalyptic time jazz (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 9 November 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link
this clip fills me with fuzzy joy
― baaderonixx, Monday, 10 November 2008 08:41 (fifteen years ago) link
love the cosy vibe of that fanzine's guy flat, the typewriter, etc
REEL TO REEL TAPE PLAYERS ONSTAGE
the last time i saw this was in 2002. it was jason lescalleet and it was AWESOME.
― Matt P, Monday, 10 November 2008 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark started that, I believe.
― Mark G, Monday, 10 November 2008 09:33 (fifteen years ago) link
aw tape on stage has to be earlier than that.
― Matt P, Monday, 10 November 2008 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link
i do not know however
also: Detroit, Ann Arbor, Toledo, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dayton
― Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Monday, 10 November 2008 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I've seen people using reel to reel onstage as late as last year (Napoleon III uses one, I think) - but it's definitely a retro move, rather than the amazing and alternative thing it seemed in 1985.
― post-apocalyptic time jazz (Masonic Boom), Monday, 10 November 2008 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Truly magnificent video, this.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 24 May 2016 23:22 (seven years ago) link