― theodore fogelsanger, Monday, 26 January 2004 20:21 (9 years ago) Permalink
Search slsk for the solo Rice vs. Bob Larson interview. The funniest thing ever, especially when Boyd misuses terminology.
― fletrejet, Monday, 26 January 2004 21:01 (9 years ago) Permalink
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― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 26 January 2004 23:37 (9 years ago) Permalink
spell is interesting - i probably like their choice of material (the poppy family!!) more than the execution.
btw, if you've got HBO, keep an eye out for "by satan possessed" - mr. rice is featured in the intro and outro performing "total war."
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 00:09 (9 years ago) Permalink
I still have this on VHS tape, taped off HBO over a decade ago... Oh, what a greeeat program for sampling it is.. especially the "exorcisms" at the end.
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― Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 00:32 (9 years ago) Permalink
someday i'll take you to disneylandsomeday i'll take you to disneylandwe'll go on mister toad's wild rideand follow him straight to hellbut that's not necessary just nowfor now hell is all around usno rubber devils, no smell of sulphurbut hell none the lesshell more grotesque than any medieval woodcutinstead of dramatic demons, a lifeless shuffling hordewithout soulswithout imaginationwithout worthand beyond redemptionsomeday i'll take you to disneylandi'll buy you a pair of mouse earstons of cotton candyand a big helium baloon with mickey insidebut all that can waittoday i'll buy you a 357 magnumand lots and lots of bulletsi'll buy you a stack of AK-47'sand a warehouse filled with bananaclipsall loaded and ready to goi'll buy you B52 loaded with neutron bombsand lots of soldiers, to do whatever is necessarydisneyland can waitwe have timesomeday there will be more of usmaybe then the world can be disneylandand visiting Hell will be noble again
― sucka (sucka), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 00:51 (9 years ago) Permalink
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― cs appleby (cs appleby), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 04:53 (9 years ago) Permalink
(hmmm, a new quasi-creepy poster that likes to go back and reference completely unrelated posts of my recent past to use as lame retorts... cool! I mean TOOL!)
(Frank Tovey on the other hand is decidedly not a tool, but is sadly no longer.. was just blasting "Bridge St. Shuffle" off Civilian the other day)
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 05:00 (9 years ago) Permalink
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― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 05:40 (9 years ago) Permalink
And I'll admit I haven't paid attention to any of Rice's escapades in the last few years (my last memory of him was an interview from the late 90s where he spent the entire time trashing Merzbow for "not getting it" and saying more equally snotty bullshit) For all I know, he may have become a born again, and is now truly living life for jesus.
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― roger adultery, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 20:06 (9 years ago) Permalink
out of curiosity the other day i picked up "easy listening for iron youth: the best of non", which i guess is his "best" up until the early '90's. it's actually pretty fucking cool! i always wrote boyd rice off for obvious reasons, but i'll be damned if i don't really dig this. will be looking into the back catalogue.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 02:40 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'll put in a good word for Blood & Flame here. love Rockist Scientist's post upthread.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 02:53 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yeah, I'm pretty torn about this dude. On the one hand, the early noise work is rad, the record with frank tovey is great, very cool stuff. On the other hand, the whole "aren't I naughty?" dynamic is ultimately a dud and a waste of time. It's not all that transgressive once your fanbase expects it out of you, it's just a delivery system for a feeling of in-group superiority and that's tedious. I went to the NON/Death in June show in San Francisco (on Gay Pride Day, lol) and the kind of feedback loop of smugness between performer and audience while Boyd and Douglas P. did their thangs was queasy. Plus the whole "in here we can say the things we really feel, oh whoops except we're all about keeping you guessing so we're not going to shit or get off the fascist pot" dynamic sits very oddly, to say the least, with a spurious philosophy of "strength".
Which just brought to mind the Foetus lyric: Say what you mean and say it MEAN. Boyd and Douglas P. don't, or won't, do that, and so they seem essentially coquettish about genocide etc. Which is trivializing.
― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:01 (3 years ago) Permalink
Boyd Rice was involved in creating a Tiki bar called Tiki Boyd's at the East Coast Bar in Denver, Colorado. Rice decorated the entire establishment out of his own pocket due to his fondness of Tiki culture, asking an open tab at the bar in return. Boyd has long expressed a love of Tiki culture, in contrast to the other elements of his public persona.[citation needed]
Tiki Boyd's was given its name in his honor.[8] Due to disagreements between Rice and the owners, Rice pulled out of the deal and reclaimed all of his Tiki decorations. The future of the bar as it remains now is uncertain. Rice plans to re-establish another Tiki Bar elsewhere in Denver.[citation needed]
― ♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:06 (3 years ago) Permalink
that can't be real right?
― ♪♫(●̲̲̅̅̅̅=̲̲̅̅̅̅●̲̅̅)♪♫ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:08 (3 years ago) Permalink
hahaha
― circa1916, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:10 (3 years ago) Permalink
i'll bet he's got a real swinging space-age bachelor pad.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:12 (3 years ago) Permalink
Oh Steve of little faith:
http://www.boydrice.com/tikiboyds/about.html
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
No really, he was/is totally into Tiki stuff and scored a signed Martin Denny LP from Martin Denny as a present for Genesis P. Orridge back in the day. Boyd was always into lounge music. See the cover of "Music, Martinis and Misanthropy" for a kitsch pastiche.
― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:13 (3 years ago) Permalink
― circa1916, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:14 (3 years ago) Permalink
boyd always does make me think of olde-tymey nerd superiority complexes of the past. frank zappa. jello biafra. sometimes i think their dad was steve allen. people are sheep. ladies are dirty. i'm better than you. leopold and loeb did it better.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:21 (3 years ago) Permalink
otmfm
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:23 (3 years ago) Permalink
Yep. Plus, nowadays, the great mass of overtly Nazi and NS black metal bands (Satanic Warmaster, Branikald, Blazebirth Hall people etc.) going around openly proclaiming their views makes the whole "am I or aren't I?" charade on the part of Boyd/DIJ seem especially strongly like a case of bad faith / weak nerves / standard chickenshit. Not that 'real' Nazis are somehow better than 'fake' Nazis because at least they have the courage of their asinine convictions, but rather, duh, if you know enough to hesitate then maybe you shouldn't be in the fake Nazi game in the first place. Leave that to Glenn Beck!
― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 03:27 (3 years ago) Permalink
neotropical and scott OTMing up in this thread
btw, isn't his early stuff often composed of distorted lock grooves/loops he made from old exotica and girl group records?
― scourge of prometheus, toaster of marshmallows (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 04:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
You still cannot say why you think Boyd Rice is a tool. It's a simple question. Why is Boyd Rice a tool?
Do you ever think aboutWhat a lovely place the world would beWithout all the peopleThat make life so unpleasant?
All the small, petty peopleAll the ugly, annoying peopleIt's hard not to think about it
I like to think aboutWhat could beDone to these peopleSomething cruelSomething meanSomething justBut the meaner the betterGoodness knows they deserve it
Have you ever dreamed ofKilling all the stupid people?Not just the unintelligent peopleBut the sort that don't know anything about anythingBut seem to have opinions about everythingThey're only too ready to offer their advice aboutHow to run your lifeAnd yet look at how they run their own livesFor the most part they've accomplished nothingThey've contributed nothingTheir lives are miserableBut they talk, talk, talk…At the very least their tongues should be cut outAt the very least
Do you ever wannaKill all the people who tell lies?Some certainly deserve itNot necessarily the big liarsOr even those who teach lies as truthI'm talking about peopleWho say one thing and do anotherOr who tell you they sent something express mailWhen you know they haven't
Did you ever want toKill all the slow people in the world?The people who are in front of youWhen they should be behind youA crime that the swift should be help back by the slowAnd it's criminal that nothing is going to rectify it
And what about all the really ugly people?Add them to the list as wellSome people try not to think about life's uglinessI've thought about itI've thought about it quite a lotSomething should be done to these peopleSomething to make them sufferThe way they've made us suffer
I say, bring back the Circus MaximusFor startersUnless these weeds are dealt withThey’ll poison everythingThey are poisoning everythingWe need a gardenerA brutal gardenerA thorough, thoughtful gardenerAn iron gardener
Whatever happened to Vlad the Impaler?Where's Genghis Kahn when you need him?Or Roi d'Ys?Ayatollah Khomeini?Adolf Hitler?Benito Mussolini?Nero?Diocletian?Kitchener?
Come back!Come back!
― harriet tubgirl (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 04:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
dude's own Imagine.
yeah, the shtick is undoubtedly lame, but some of those loops kind of rule.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 04:26 (3 years ago) Permalink
lol someone's still in the high school of their mind
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 04:30 (3 years ago) Permalink
his book of essays this year, no, is way more measured and reasonable than i was expecting
― kamerad, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 04:34 (3 years ago) Permalink
I have a friend who is kind of Boyd Riceish in his misanthropy, fetishization of martial/industrial shit and radical politics, but he's a pro-revolutionary Marxist
― harriet tubgirl (Curt1s Stephens), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 04:38 (3 years ago) Permalink
Purchased the NON "Children Of The Black Sun" from a used bin recently because the cover was kind of amazing:
That plus a quick phone search said it would be some ambient stuff that was sometimes beautiful and sometimes ugly, so I took a flyer not knowing NON or Boyd Rice very much.
The disc was haunting and elegant and mesmerizing! Quite enjoyable!
How does this fit into the Boyd Rice cannon?
Also, this thread has some evidence that the dude's a bit of an asshole whereas his Wiki Page downplays such allegations. Where does he stand now? Would it be embarassing for me to support him or is he just being shocking and demure?
― NYCNative, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 07:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
NYCNative — That's a cool record, although... well, a lot of what is to be liked there is sampled. Anyways. Here's a story from that time, me trying to figure the guy out. Of course this is all pre-Da Vinci Code (ay yi yikes).
Utter Non Sense: Decoding Boyd Rice
― jaybabcock, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 15:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
I feel like people's comfortableness with Boyd Rice tracks roughly parallel with their comfortableness with Mel Gibson, and Boyd and Mel are likely guilty of the same things(maybe not the drunkenness for Boyd -- isn't he a teetotaler? but the casual racism and infantile religious nonsense and wifebeating, probably)
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:22 (2 years ago) Permalink
He looks a bit like him too
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:23 (2 years ago) Permalink
xp no way dude boyd is a famous lush
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:27 (2 years ago) Permalink
Sure looks like a boozebag in this photo
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
he was/is a staff writer for modern drunkard!
also go to his site and find the section on tiki boyd's
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:30 (2 years ago) Permalink
Being a boozer is not very Hitlerian tho
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:31 (2 years ago) Permalink
It is Gibsonian though!
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
He kind of looks like Jeremy Clarkson in that photo.
― ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:35 (2 years ago) Permalink
Probably a bit less unpleasant though.
Less right wing anyway
― Tom D (Tom D.), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:36 (2 years ago) Permalink
Should totally do a car show with Douglas P as the Stig.
― ka£ka (NickB), Tuesday, 22 February 2011 16:40 (2 years ago) Permalink
http://www.boydrice.com/news.html
The below photo is of Boyd Rice with his creation "The Blue Hawaiian," a two-foot blue Jello tiki which recnetly won first place at The Denver County Fair's Jello Molding Contest. The tiki is made of Blue Curacao, pineapple, shredded coconut and blue Jello, with lemon slices for the eyes. In receiving the first prize award, Rice commented, "Tonight stands out as among one of the proudest of my life."
― Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Sunday, 14 August 2011 08:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
That's magnificent.
― I for one am (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, 14 August 2011 09:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol, awesome. what a great outfit he's sporting, too
― dell (del), Sunday, 14 August 2011 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
― burt oraneg, Friday, 12 October 2012 04:01 (8 months ago) Permalink
Ok
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 14 October 2012 18:41 (8 months ago) Permalink