Conservative Music / Conservative Politics

National Socialist Black Metallers

NV, as I said above, this goes a but above music

*throws iPhone at the wall*

"a but"?

Writing novels.

a but beyond

I'm really good at thread revives btw

xpost do you think novelists in general aren't left-leaning?

quilters

scrapbookers

oh this is ilm i guess

Quilters and scrapbookers otm, although I bet their relative conservatism is influenced by their being 75 years old.

Yes. Ted Nugent immediately comes to mind. He's a right wing extremist which only means he aligns now directly with the Tea Party and radical GOP.

I had a couple videos from a fiat money/goldbug kook who was also a folk artist singing at Ron Paul rallies. Paul attracts lots of musicians. I did a few blog posts on a heavy metal band, Pokerface,
who were extreme right Holocaust deniers who campaigned for him. This became a small source of embarrassment.

The Tea Party attracts a motley collection of artists. All of them generally bad. But it's not restricted to one genre. The badness extends across everything.

There are a lot of confused musicians in the mainstream who are attracted to the weird politics of Alex Jones.

There's a lot of Conservatives in Metal if you factor in the apolitical guys with the outspoken wingnuts.

Or even just not liberal-leaning? I ask because everytime someone whines about "liberal Hollywood",

I hate this phrase because there are tons of movies that have had mad conservative leanings.

yeah, most of them

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The Nuge, yeah, and there are other isolated examples - chuck norris, charlton heston, that one really unfunny early 90s SNL actress, etc. But I mean entire creative fields. Like if you picked a random sample of 20 playwrights or sculptors or architects, I'm assuming (wrongly) that they would generally lean left. And I think that's true of most artistic/creative pursuits, except for maybe country music, quilters and scrapbookers. So I'm asking, why in the world would anyone expect that Hollywood would be any different?

I hate this phrase because there are tons of movies that have had mad conservative leanings.

Yep. This whole stupid revive was brought about by thinking around Dangerous Minds.

Because there are many prominent actors and a few prominent directors who talk about their political views to the national news media.

Not many sculptors who do that.

I've never seen Dangerous Minds. What's the conservative slant on it?

Ha, I haven't seen it since it came out, but I just remember that there's a school full of dangerous minds, and only a courageous white woman can teach them how to live

I suppose that's not conservative, just really awkward to watch

I dunno, the main deal is that most creative fields don't lead to big cash for most practitioners, and big cash and conservatism are positively correlated to say the least.

I suppose that's not conservative, just really awkward to watch

I was gonna say, "white person gives the minorities a VOICE/DIRECTION" is liberal boilerplate

lol liberal Hollywood

Hollywood still makes comedies and dramas starring heterosexual couples getting married, right?

xposts Sure, but it seems like the creative-liberal connection comes first, long before money enters the equation.

If big cash wasn't involved Hollywood movies would be way more liberal

I dunno about that

it's one of the most sexist/racist divisions in the entertainment industry, for one thing

how are we defining "liberal" and "conservative" here

From what I've seen so far in the most conventional fashion.

well it just seems so far that "liberal" = "stuff I like" and "conservative" = "stuff I don't like"

Well I don't know, aren't country musicians generally conservative leaning? I could be wrong, but I remember patriotic Toby Keith being huge, and heretical Dixie chicks getting shunned from the community

we're making vast generalizations here, none of which are really accurate, country included. I could rattle off a bunch of country guys who have held liberal positions about various things over the years.

... including Toby Keith, which is the hilarious thing

^^^exactly!

I would venture to say country musicians are more liberal than their audience on the whole

what's going on here?

life

Well I don't know, aren't country musicians generally conservative leaning?

yeah no

Tim McGraw's a Dem.

Brad Paisley

MIranda Lambert and Blake Shelton

there's certainly enough jingoism to go around country music but I wouldn't even call that a conservative trait, really (mostly thinking of Michael Moore's "why didn't we bomb the Saudis?" stance in "Fahrenheit 9/11" here)

What kinds of music do Republicans genuinely enjoy?

SST always had a pretty strong strain of i guess uh...stoner libertarianism or something...but I always though Chuck Dukowski's quote "anarchy for me, facism for you" was a good a description of modern convervatism as anything

really ugly strains of right wing stuff and racism and stuff throughout thrash and metal, some of the thrash stuff i would imagine being handed down from hardcore punk

cf. Lester Bangs' "The White Noise Supremacists" about racism in the underground punk scene circa 1980.

there's certainly enough jingoism to go around country music but I wouldn't even call that a conservative trait, really

I would! but then again I have been nothing but rong in this thread so

that one really unfunny early 90s SNL actress, etc

She had this hilarious -- but not in the way she meant -- video song called "There's A Communist Living in the White House" which was part of the Pasadena Tea Party operation.