How much IS the 3D-album cover version of the first Captain Beyond album worth, anyway??

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I mean, I never even knew there WERE two different versions of the cover until I was reading Martin Popoff's wonderful new '70s metal collectors guide book on the toilet this morning, and he said something like "there is actually a 3D version of the cover, too, but it's not as rare as you might think." At which point a lightbulb went off above my head and I went out of the bathroom and checked the used copy that I bought for $4 at the Quakertown Pennsylvania Q-Mart last month to replace the one I used to own, and sure enough, I HAVE THE (not as rare as you might think) 3-D COVER!!! Which was different than the apparently MUCH less rare cover that Martin put in his book! I forget which cover I USED to own, back when I wrote my own heavy metal book! But I want to know how rare this one is, even if it's not as rare as I might think! So please tell me, if you can! Thanks!

― chuck, Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:06 (twenty-two years ago)

anywhere from 10 to 20-ish bucks depending on the condition. ebay is glutted with them.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks Scott! I'm not gonna sell it, because I never sell anything, but it's always nice to know these things!

― chuck, Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

(I mean, I never sell anything that's actually WORTH anything. Obviously I sell CDs all the time or how else would I buy food?)

― chuck, Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:17 (twenty-two years ago)

great article in the latest Ugly Things about Keith Relf's Armageddon. i love that Armageddon album to pieces(featuring Bobby Caldwell of captain beyond if yer wondering).as well as the first C.B. Do you have the armageddon album, chuck? was it in yer book, i can't remember.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i just saw a krautrock album i have and that i think i payed 30 bucks for go for 250 dollars on ebay!! ebay is nuts these days.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i have yer gettovetts/hawklords tape made by the way. they go surprisingly well together! i will send it very soon. chuck, do you own any damnation of adam blessing? Or the one and only album by psychboogieprog outfit Valhalla? i'm thinking that would make a good c90 for you if you don't.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I never even HEARD of the pscyhoboogieprog outfit Valhalla, but they sound great by virtue of name and genre alone! Nor did I ever hear of any Damnation of Adam Blessing. (Did Adam Blessing do something wrong, to be damned like that? Either way, I'd love to hear him!)

Did you ever hear Titanic, by the way? I really want to. They are apparently (according to that old really early guide to heavy metal that came out in '81 or so by some British guys whose names I forget) a Uriah Heep type pan-European band who apparently (according to the new '70s disco history *Love Saves the Day*, not to mention Michael Freedberg in a letter he sent me ten years ago if I remember right) had a huge gay disco hit in 1971. They might be the best band EVER!!

― chuck, Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

*scrounges* The Titanic song is apparently called "Sultana/Rain 2000" -- came out on Epic in 1972 or so. Hm!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

>Do you have the armageddon album, chuck? was it in yer book, i can't remember.<

Yes for the first question, but no for the second one, since I bought my copy after the book came out. It SHOULD be in there, though.

― chuck, Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i have the sultana single. it's good.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2588981369&category=3366

here's what i just bought on ebay.

N.P.-Thunder & Roses - King Of The Black Sunrise (United Artists)

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 January 2004 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd like to give a shout-out to whoever at United Artists signed Thunder & Roses, Damnation of Adam Blessing AND Valhalla!(not to mention Boffalongo) They deserve a medal. that label in the late-60's and 70's just might be my favorite of all. maybe. they imported great stuff too.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I don't think the Captain Beyond is all that in demand these days. I am just hoping this near mint copy of the Gandalf lp on Capitol that I found for $4 a number of years ago can fetch something near the $500 I saw a copy go for last year. Because I am ready to sell it and buy the Sundazed reissue. Who needs originals? I need money! Might be time to unload my Phil Cohran duplicate original too.

I always wanted to check out Titanic because Repertoire did their cd reissues, and they always put out nutty stuff, but then someone described it as horn-prog or something I sort of lost the urge. But Chuck's description definitely sounds more intriguing.

Scott is that the same Lizard label which released Paul Humphrey and the Cool Aid Chemists? I love that record. That Frantic thing definitely looks pretty hot. Report back please!

― Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 22 January 2004 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Please, if you care enough about Captain Beyond to read this far down the screen, go and attack your wallet with Martin Popoff's guide to 70s metal. It's like his 17th book, and clearly the one he was borned to write. Poobah! Christ Child! Suck! Rainbow! Yeah!

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 22 January 2004 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)

suck rules. and poobah.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 22 January 2004 06:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah!

I only wish there was a band called this.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 January 2004 07:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah Yeah Yeahs solo project?

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Thursday, 22 January 2004 08:35 (twenty-two years ago)

>go and attack your wallet with Martin Popoff's guide to 70s metal. It's like his 17th book, and clearly the one he was borned to write.<

Agreed. It's as fun as any music book I've read this year. Go buy it.

― chuck, Thursday, 22 January 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

*scrounges* The Collector's Guide to Heavy Metal: The Seventies -- I like the directness of the title.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 02:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Popoff is a fine writer with encyclopedic knowledge and some insane opinions I personally can't begin to agree with! (Rates Pantera higher than Voivod, disses Blue Cheer and early UFO, likes Ronnie James Dio, apparently hates most everything pre-1970...)

Still worth reading, tho.

― Scott, Friday, 23 January 2004 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, he totally overrates lots of ugly unrocking opera-kitsch-parody bullshit from the '80s and '90s and totally underrates lots of beautiful rocking blues-based stuff from the '60s and '70s, and half the time he seems to think music rocks harder just by being louder, which is just wrong wrong wrong. I don't buy the silly "metal didn't exist before 1970" line, either. But he REALLY knows this stuff. Way better than I do, to be honest; it's not even close. And his aesthetic, as wrongheaded as it is sometimes, comes off as extremely consistent. And he's very very entertaining and educational.

― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

that other book by him-the one you had years ago,chuck-is great. i still need a copy of that. and the new one. they are just great reference works. and he really is entertaining. i love his reviews and interviews in Brave Words & Bloody Knuckles. and yeah, i don't always agree with him, to put it mildly. I mean his favorite band is Trouble, right? who were okay, but who never blew my mind or anything.(i only have the first two records) I just love anybody who can write in-depth reviews for, like, 15 Raven albums! That takes fortitude.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

He also suffers that ridiculous dance-music-critic-like illness of constantly writing stuff like "This record sounds very dated for 1973," as if that matters AT ALL in 2004 (and as if it even mattered much in 1973, if the record was any good). Then he falls for tons of half-assed '70s-metal ripoffs by inept '90s Seattle grunge bands, which IS a contradiction, in a way. And he seems to hate '60s garage bands, but he thinks revivalist near-hacks like the Lyres and DMZ were godhead, which is bizarre. Still, he's always very NICE about it. I wish my writing was half as warm-hearted as his is. Even when he's writing about the meanest music on earth, he never sounds macho at all! Yet somehow he avoids sounding like a rock critic nerd, too! He absolutely writes like he'd be a very fun guy to quiff pints with.

― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

(or quaff pants with, for that matter.) (hey, i'm not british or even canadian, so what the hell do i know -- i still don't understand what these "punters" martin's always talking about are. why would their tastes be any different than those of place kickers, anyway??) (espeically now that none of the place kickers are soccer style guys from crete with stumps for feet and steel-toed shoes?)

― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, can punters even HAVE quiffs? (Like if they're rockabillies, maybe?) (But weren't the quiffs and the rockabillies two DIFFERENT cliques in "Last Gang in Town" by the Clash?? I'm so confused now.)

― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, can punters even HAVE quiffs? (Like if they're rockabillies, maybe?)

Teddy Boys had quiffs I thought. They're punters, surely...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

He's not Malcolm Dome fer chrissakes -- you're more likely in one of Martin's books to catch references to pucks and hockey barns.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to know why certain Americans on this board constantly write "whinging" when they mean "whining"? I mean, "whinging" is like when you throw something across the room right?

This 70s book does look really great - I didn't even know it existed! I just put it in my Amazon shoppping cart. What's on that cd that comes with it anyway? Anything good?

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

do they have geezers in canada or just hosers?

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The CD is incredible - possibly my favorite album of 2004 so far! And yeah, Martin does discuss hockey barns a lot, but hey, I'm from Michigan, so I understand THAT part. It's the punters I don't get.

― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

When I first heard of hosers (from Bob and Doug McKenzie, I guess), it totally confused me, because I thought hosers were from Indiana! But those are HOOSIERS, obviously.

― chuck, Friday, 23 January 2004 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, the CD is pretty great: Poobah, Truth and Janey, Amulet, Cain, and almighty lords of rock and magic Sorcery.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Intriguing! I too shall get a copy when I get paid in a week here...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: the McKenzies, I was surprised to learn that their country's word for "wool hat" is spelled "tuque." Dunno what I expected, maybe something more along the lines of Peregrin Took. Guess it's got something to do with having a picture of the queen on their money.

― Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

they mention tuques in their 12 days of christmas song if i remember correctly. it brings you back it does.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah I remember as a kid thinking "what the fuck is a took?" (how i thought it was spelled too) when that song came on. I liked the Cheech & Chong Christmas skit better anyway.

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

having never read the books, it was years until i figured out that steve peregrin took from T.Rex took his name from a hobbit. i just thought he had a really cool name.

http://www.steve-took.co.uk/

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

That Frantic thing
definitely looks pretty hot. Report back please!

Not bad at all! Not mind-blowing or anything, but a solid hard rock album. Sorta sleazy biker-rock at times, over-amped garage chestnuts(Hey Joe,Morning Dew,Midnight to Six Man), heavy and slow chunky riffs a la Toe Fat or the thudrocker of your choice. Overall, lots of nice geetar action. which is what i wanted really.i read that someone reissued an unreleased album of theirs that is supposedly more psych-probably earlier stuff. Collectables Records maybe? I can't remember, but some people dig it.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 January 2004 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

Jasper & Oliver's International Encyclopedia of Heavy Metal.

Titanic The original line-up recorded "Sea Wolf" which featured the huge hit single "Sultana." Kenny Aas, keyboards, was replaced by Helge Groslie for "Eagle Rock." Up to this point the music was heavy Uriah Heep-style thrash rock. "Eagle Rock" was excellent, but after it Titanic went steadily downhill...

Titanic 1971
Sea Wolf 1972
Eagle Rock 1973
Ballad of a Rock 'n' Roll Loser 1975
Return of Drakker 1978
All on CBS

― George Smith, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

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