― cnwb (cnwb), Monday, 12 January 2004 04:57 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 12 January 2004 05:02 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Hernan, Monday, 12 January 2004 05:45 (9 years ago) Permalink
― nickn (nickn), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:05 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:06 (9 years ago) Permalink
― cnwb (cnwb), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:07 (9 years ago) Permalink
Vintage Violence is my fave.
― JaXoN (JasonD), Monday, 12 January 2004 06:26 (9 years ago) Permalink
― jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 12 January 2004 07:15 (9 years ago) Permalink
― nickn (nickn), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:07 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:09 (9 years ago) Permalink
And of course there is "Songs for Drella."
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:10 (9 years ago) Permalink
x-post... OTM
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Monday, 12 January 2004 08:12 (9 years ago) Permalink
― bham, Monday, 12 January 2004 09:57 (9 years ago) Permalink
I'm not at all familiar with his other albums (the only other thing of his I've got is the "Seducing Down The Door" comp.) but I think "Hobo Sapiens" is wonderful - and it's making me want to explore the rest of his back catalogue further - I was thinking I'd probably start with either "Paris 1919" or "The Island Years"
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 12 January 2004 10:12 (9 years ago) Permalink
I've been meaning to pick up Hobosapiens but haven't just yet, the 5 Tracks ep which came out a few months earlier is great though and if that's a taster of what the album will be like then it should be great.
x-post: The Island Years is the double album I mentioned.
― willem (willem), Monday, 12 January 2004 10:15 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 January 2004 12:44 (9 years ago) Permalink
This is actually the only Cale album I own. Did he ever do any other records like this one?
― M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 12 January 2004 13:52 (9 years ago) Permalink
Paris 1919 is probably the next best to approach, it's gentle and accesible. Somehow I think it's nice to get this one in before going to Church of Anthrax / New Society, which if you heard them completely out-of-the-blue would sound like the flailing piss of a coked-up bag of bellybooze. Which they are. The secret is to learn to love the bag, and that takes a while.
The 80's ones, Carribean Sunset in particular, are shit. Think about it. It's a solo album from a 60's guy in the 80's called Carribean Sunset. More than any of the one's that were mentioned up to go for Fear next. It's got a fairly decent mix of material and the 70's bar-rock boogie is at it's least annoying. Slow Dazzle has it's highlights, as has Honi Soit.
Hobosapiens I still can't get into for some reason. It sounds like your old Geography teacher berating you from the next room about subways and somesuch. I'll reserve my opinion of that as I haven't quite listened to it enough yet.
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 12 January 2004 14:19 (9 years ago) Permalink
S: Fear; Slow Dazzle: Guts; Paris 1919. (Fear, Slow Dazzle, Helen of Troy, and a few singles were reissued on a twofer called "The Warner Bros. Years" a while back, and it's the way to go.) Paris 1919 is very good indeed but I think "Slow Dazzle" is the greatest John Cale record, sort of brutalist Brian Wilson...
D: Vintage Violence (never liked it except for "Gideon's Bible"); all his '80s shit; all his '90s shit (I do like his last one but it's hardly essential).
I also have three CDs of his early noise stuff in NYC, nice room-clearing music but again hardly essential.
Honi Soit is an honorable attempt at a comeback around '81, and there are some nice moments, but by that time he had really started to lose his voice, and it sounds a bit stillborn. Worth getting for a few bucks.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:15 (9 years ago) Permalink
Sabotage & Even Cowgirls Get the Blues - Great for die-hard fans, but probably not for beginners.John Cale is Alive - More accessible, but less good.
Walking on Locusts - I absolutely love this one, but no one else seemed to.
― dave225 (Dave225), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:33 (9 years ago) Permalink
Mid 70s albums terrific, Animal Justice terrific (Hedda Gabler!!!!!), New Society terrific, most other stuff patchy, I am fond of Sabotage but never actually listen to it, Fragments is lovely but I get embarrassed listening to it for personal reasons, I would love to assert that Caribbean Sunset is good but I can't honestly remember anything about it, it's better than Artificial Intelligence though surely.
i.e. what everyone else said.
― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 12 January 2004 16:40 (9 years ago) Permalink
― nickn (nickn), Monday, 12 January 2004 23:43 (9 years ago) Permalink
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 01:32 (9 years ago) Permalink
I was about to say. They need to fix the star ranking though!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 02:00 (9 years ago) Permalink
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― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 14:39 (9 years ago) Permalink
Christgau is right; the "Peril" track "Days of Steam" does remind of the Ernie Kovacs theme.
― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 15:52 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:08 (9 years ago) Permalink
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 16:18 (9 years ago) Permalink
Yeah that 'Island' comp really is terrific - all the hits and none of the shit (well, some) - glad someone mentioned 'Ski Patrol', a real fave of mine
― Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 13 January 2004 20:40 (9 years ago) Permalink
Sabotage really is a fantastic noise thing on the rock-meets-avant-jazz tip.
Artificial Intelligence is getting way underrated here as pretty-pop.
But orchestral cale hits his peak, as far as i'm concerned, with "words for the dying" which is one of the few where the studio recorded versions so clearly top the fragments... versions.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 00:54 (9 years ago) Permalink
I saw him live in a very small bar like 4-5 years ago, and it was wonderful. A lot like the Fragments of rainy day CD. All he had was a piano and acoustic guitar on some songs and vocals.
― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 14 January 2004 05:08 (9 years ago) Permalink
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― j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:41 (7 years ago) Permalink
― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:55 (7 years ago) Permalink
― j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:56 (7 years ago) Permalink
― j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 04:57 (7 years ago) Permalink
Did you see yourself in the audience?
― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:00 (7 years ago) Permalink
― j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:05 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:18 (7 years ago) Permalink
http://www.ovationtv.com/
― j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:23 (7 years ago) Permalink
Hail Bop! –Whereas the ’80s were fraught with gauche displays of wealth and “conspicuous consumption,” the ’90s fashion houses and museums have made a political statement by shifting toward the pared-down simplicity which has defined the decade. Composer John Adams makes political statements through his work as well, from controversial operas, such as Nixon in China and The Death of Klinghoffer (which deals with the hijacking of the Achille Lauro), to electronic compositions and sometimes minimalist modern orchestrations, still largely considered avant garde by classical music purists. Filmmaker Tony Palmer profiles Adams as he premieres two works commissioned in commemoration of his fiftieth birthday: Gnarly Buttons and Slonimsky’s Earbox.
Next Showing:Wednesday, November 23 2:00 AM EST
― j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:25 (7 years ago) Permalink
― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:01 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:25 (7 years ago) Permalink
― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:55 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:01 (7 years ago) Permalink
I'm surprised how many people have cited Honi Soit. I love that record, even as weak as it is.
I recently watched the Drella video on the big screen again .. still fantastic... and the Cale songs are superior, but maybe that's just me being a little sick of Lour Reed.
― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:53 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:10 (7 years ago) Permalink
Nice to have it play outside of US borders, as well.
― doug watson, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
that is great (and a little weird). even tho lou wrote "venus in furs" it's as much cale's as it is anyone's.
― tylerw, Friday, 11 January 2013 17:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yep.
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 13 January 2013 15:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm excited to see him do "Paris 1919" this coming Saturday.
― That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 13 January 2013 17:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
I will be there, w/ Tropical Jeremy and our better halves.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 13 January 2013 19:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
also going to this, excited
― iatee, Sunday, 13 January 2013 19:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
cale returns to ludlow streethttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323596204578241620759540276.htmlwould be cool if lou was photobombing him from the rooftop of one of those buildings.
― tylerw, Friday, 18 January 2013 15:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
will be going to BAM for 1919 thang , but based on a video I saw of him playing "Macbeth" with whichever backing band, I regret that reanimated Richie Hayward will not be on the gig. Maybe his ghost will possess the drummer…
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 January 2013 16:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com
This looks interesting, Lou DJ's on WPIX in 1979, with guest John Cale (who performs in studio, I think?)
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 16 February 2013 13:43 (3 months ago) Permalink
Let me see if I can remember after thirty-three years: Lou plays "The Jeweler" during the first part of the program and when John arrives Lou tells him "a whole lot of people were calling up wondering what that was."
― Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:15 (3 months ago) Permalink
He also refers to the track with the English voice - thankfully Cale didn't hear that part of the broadcast
― Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:45 (3 months ago) Permalink
Does someone call up and thank Lou for playing doo-wop instead of all the hippie-dippy stuff that is popular today or was that another show?
― Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:51 (3 months ago) Permalink
Yes, a sort of fried braincell garbled conversation ensues between the two. Funniest bit is probably Lou admonishing a caller for saying the word "shit", this is the same Lou Reed who'd just released "Take No Prisoners"
― Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:55 (3 months ago) Permalink
Yup, that's how it went. OK, listening now. Even the ads and concert listings are amazing: "Thursday, Friday, Saturday- The Only Ones"!
― Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:57 (3 months ago) Permalink
(by the way this radio broadcast is being discussed on three threads simultaneously)
― Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:57 (3 months ago) Permalink
(I know. I started posting on this one but I am reading the other two. Perhaps should just switch over to one of the others. But which?)
― Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:58 (3 months ago) Permalink
(Maybe it should have its own thread.)
― Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 February 2013 14:59 (3 months ago) Permalink
(I would take it to the "Take No Prisoners" thread, any excuse to bump a "Take No Prisoners" thread is good one)
― Le petit chat est mort (Tom D.), Saturday, 16 February 2013 15:00 (3 months ago) Permalink
(Good idea. Ha, I forgot I also posted to Search And Destroy: Lou Reed)
― Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 February 2013 15:01 (3 months ago) Permalink
I put the link in both threads since it involves Cale and Reed.
― Iago Galdston, Saturday, 16 February 2013 15:05 (3 months ago) Permalink
Just came across the John Cale on I've Got A Secret on youtube posted upthread.
― Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 February 2013 13:12 (3 months ago) Permalink
Garry Moore : "Thank you, Mr. Cale. You have a whim of iron."
― Stranded In the Jungle Groove (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 February 2013 13:21 (3 months ago) Permalink
Following last month's terrific performance on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon and three sold out shows at the Brooklyn Academy of Music, John Cale is announcing a performance at the 2013 Hopscotch Festival, happening September 5-7 in Raleigh, NC, and sharing the Laurel Halo remix of "Living With You," the original of which is from Shifty Adventures in Nookie Wood.JOHN CALE'S "LIVING WITH YOU" (LAUREL HALO REMIX) -http://bit.ly/YdLjXD
JOHN CALE PLAYS LATE NIGHT WITH JIMMY FALLON:
"Venus in Furs" (Web Exclusive) http://bit.ly/WJjP9g
"I Wanna Talk 2 U" http://bit.ly/RMroQ4
"Living With You" is built on John Cale's trademark viola drone with some of the most delicate nylon guitar picking he claims to have encountered. The "Living With You" single bundle includes the original version of the song, the "Organic Mix," which is a more stripped down version made by Cale that revels in the stark and nakedly emotional nature of the song, plus the Laurel Halo remix. The remix comes after a defining year for Laurel who was awarded The Wire's 2012 album of the year for her debut full length, Quarantine. Watch & Listen:
"Hatred" stream http://bit.ly/Stgoox
"Face to the Sky" video http://bit.ly/VL2W1Q
"I Wanna Talk 2 U" stream http://bit.ly/QCF65f
Welcome To Nookie Wood video -http://bit.ly/NcM7YJ'
― dow, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 14:48 (2 months ago) Permalink
A friend lent me his autobiography. It's pretty great stuff.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 April 2013 00:54 (1 month ago) Permalink
radical sabotage era clip here: http://eastvillage.thelocal.nytimes.com/2013/04/15/nightclubbing-john-cale-band-1979/
― tylerw, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 20:08 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Not one to rest on his laurels, that same year Cale performed his unrecorded song cycle, “The Nine Lives of Gordon Liddy,”
I have never heard of this.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 23 April 2013 23:04 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
me neither -- sounds made up, but apparently not:
The Nine Lives Of Gordon Liddy - 1980
Gordon Liddy was one of the Watergate burglars. It combines older songs - Only Time Will Tell (Sabotage/Live), later to be released material like Thoughtless Kind (Music For A New Society), Streets of Laredo (Honi Soit) coupled with Cable Hogue (Helen Of Troy), and unreleased pieces: Cold Country Comfort and Coming Around Again. Never recorded as a whole.
― tylerw, Thursday, 25 April 2013 20:16 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Holy crap at that 1979 clip!! Is there no bootleg out there of the stuff from that era that never made it to LP?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 26 April 2013 00:24 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
there are some good ones, hit me up via PM if you want but I only have them in FLAC.
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 26 April 2013 00:37 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Did "Fucking the Neighbor's Wife" ever get recorded?
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 26 April 2013 01:47 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
ha, I thought I remembered that from somewhere
Holy shit -- I've been dying to hear Cowgirls-era Cale forever but all that's been officially released from that era was...well, Cowgirls.
I suppose I can just wait for you to post it, but do any of these dates include "Fucking the Neighbor's Wife"?
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:15 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
no but wow @ that title, never heard of it.
― sleeve, Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:29 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark
the blog I linked to way upthread for those shows has dead links, but this is a good excuse to address that.
makes me sad to see Bimble posts up under the fold as well :(
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 26 April 2013 01:58 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
actually just came across this today - Unreleased John Cale songs vol. 11. Autobiography (13 Oct 1984 Essen, W Germany)2. Care Song (26 Jun 1980 Eindhoven, Netherlands)3. Fucking Your Neighbor's Wife ( " )4. Ton Ton Macoute (1977 Animal Justice outtake)5. Wake Up The Boys (In The North Atlantic) (14 Jun 1981 San Diego, CA)6. Living In Moonlight (16 Apr 1987 Hoboken, NJ)7. Rape (9 Jul 1979 Toronto, Canada)8. Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence (25 Apr 1980 NYC, NY)9. Cold Country Comfort (24 May 1980 NYC, NY)10. Coming Around Again ( " )11. Candy Store (24 Jun 1981 NYC, NY)12. ? (14 Jul 1981 San Diego, CA)13. Dirge For The New Sunrise (17 Apr 1991 Madison, WI)14. Lament (27 Jul 1998 Minneapolis, MN)
all songs by John Cale except:7 - words by Deerfrance8 - traditional French folk song13 - words by Edith Sitwell14 - words by Dylan Thomas
12 sounds like a song that was made up on the spot, quite possibly
unreleased John Cale songs, vol. 21. I Like To Keep Baby Happy (3 Jul 1983 Werchter, Belgium)2. Flying Seagulls (24 Oct 1981 NYC, NY)3. Uncle Sam In Samoa ( " )4. Don't Let Me Down ( " )5. All Aboard ( " )
http://modern-radio.com/board/t.php?id=48347
[scroll down for live links]
― tylerw, Friday, 26 April 2013 02:05 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Well I'm nothing if not consistent.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 26 April 2013 02:22 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
(RIP Bimble)
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 26 April 2013 02:23 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
tyler you are a hero, again.
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Friday, 26 April 2013 02:55 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
haha. i assume there are complete bootlegs of these shows where he did this gordon liddy song cycle? would like to hear the whole thang in full...
― tylerw, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:30 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
here's what he was playing - http://werksman.home.xs4all.nl/cale/setlists/1980_05_24.htmlNew York 1980-05-24
Live at the Squat Theatre, New York, NY - May 24, 1980. First night of The Nine lives of Gordon Liddy. With Joe Bidewell.Setlist
Cold Country Comfort # Only Time Will Tell (early lyrics) Coming Around Again Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence Fear Is A Man's Best Friend Thoughtless Kind (early lyrics) Cable Hogue Streets Of Laredo (recorded) Narration / King Harry Buffalo Ballet Child's Christmas in Wales (I Keep A) Close Watch
― tylerw, Friday, 26 April 2013 15:31 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Finally checked out that "Walking The Dog" video. Nice, thanks.
― The Cosimo Code of the Woosters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 April 2013 11:14 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
great richard hell vids on that page too...
― tylerw, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:35 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Will have to look at those as well.
― The Cosimo Code of the Woosters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:37 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Watched the Wayne Fontana cover. What else?
― The Cosimo Code of the Woosters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:42 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
In the meantime watching The Student Teachers.
― The Cosimo Code of the Woosters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:43 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
there's one older post of "love comes in spurts" maybe from the same show?
― tylerw, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:44 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
OK, just found that while I was away. Yeah, looks like the same show.
― The Cosimo Code of the Woosters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:48 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Dang, great shot of Quine playing the solo.
― The Cosimo Code of the Woosters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:49 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
http://eastvillage.thelocal.nytimes.com/2012/08/20/nightclubbing-richard-hell-and-the-voidoids/
“Richard had some charisma you can’t buy in a store and apply to yourself like a cream,” recalled Television guitarist, Richard Lloyd. ”He had ‘it,’ the inimitable ‘it,’ the mysterious ‘it.’ His loopy bass lines were cartoonish in their wonderment; he was fantastic.”
― The Cosimo Code of the Woosters (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:51 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Mentioned this on a film thread: there's a nice (too) few seconds of "Fear Is a Man's Best Friend" in the Ed Koch documentary.
― clemenza, Saturday, 27 April 2013 13:57 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
Almost put out a Student Teachers CD. Always grouped them with a later class of CBs bands. Nervous Rex. US Ape. Student Teachers only had a few songs but they were all really good. Channel 13 I only heard on a Hyped2Death/Homework comp and was obsessed. Other songs are on the 2x5 Marty Thau comp and the Roir New York Singles Scene comp.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 28 April 2013 06:43 (3 weeks ago) Permalink
just getting around to that lost cale songs comp -- some really cool things on here!
― tylerw, Friday, 3 May 2013 21:55 (2 weeks ago) Permalink
also interesting - On the Hear Fear promo album Cale announces cover versions of Jerusalem, Girl From The North Country (Bob Dylan), Eight Miles High (the Byrds), and I Can See For Miles (The Who), all to be included on the Slow Dazzle album.
It never happened.
― tylerw, Friday, 3 May 2013 21:56 (2 weeks ago) Permalink