Ok . MORE Arthur Russell (But This Is Great)

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Just stumbled across this super duper article:

http://www.djfriendly.co.uk/more_arthur.php?PHPSESSID=b85999859e6a03b077fbba7754af8ed8


BTW. I just got a copy of "24 24 Music" by Dinosaur l and I think that this should be at the forefront of the Arthur Russell releases just coming out. I mean - it absolutely nails ,/em> the whole NY disco/No Wave thing infinitely better than, say, Liquid Liquid. It's a fantastic record. Is anyone reissuing this?!

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry. Didn't mean to italicize that entire sentence.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Ok. no more posting to ILM whilst "tipsy". I promise.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:36 (twenty-two years ago)

dan seltzer mentioned the possibility of this to me recently, so fingers crossed

mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

well, if Audika and Sould Jazz don't do it for some reason, and I can't get anyone to let Acute do it, I'll gladly, as I said, make CD-r copies of it for whomever. I think I said recently, it coulda been so cool, a Dinosaur CD with 24-24, the Go Bang mixes and Kiss Me Again, a Loose Joints CD w/ Is It All Over, Pop Your Funk, etc and so forth. I've just been to busy w/ current projects and the actual job that pays the actual bills to be as aggressive as I'd like to be with pursuing reissues...

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 10 January 2004 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)

ten months pass...
Did 24-24 ever get a proper release?

adam... (nordicskilla), Sunday, 21 November 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I just ordered WORLD OF ECHO. Also, Arthur plays cello on a bunch of tracks (some of which also feature Bob Dylan)on the Allen Ginsberg box

don, Sunday, 21 November 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anybody heard the Necessaries? Did they make any records w/Arthur Russell on keyboards?

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

there is an lp with arthur on it. i didn't really like it.

he also appears on a couple of peter zummo albums ('song iv' by russell and zummo is one of my fave things ever), and on a jill kroesen album (which i love but it's hard to hear arthur).

stirmonster, Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks. will search for zummo and jill kroesen. her name rings a bell, perhaps an early 80s nyc new-music type.

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

hes also on the bonus cut on mimi's cd soak.

bulbs (bulbs), Sunday, 21 November 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I had the Necessaries' "Walking And Driving At The Same Time" on my once-blog a few months ago. Best thing on that album. Here's a description.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 22 November 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

The Necessaries aren't that good. I want the Dinosaur album bad.

Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Monday, 22 November 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

me too.

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Walking and Driving is the one song on the album where you can really tell Arthur's involved. I played it at my Arthur Russell tribute night a few years ago(remember...) and Tom Lee came into the booth, introduced himself and told me how impressed/suprised I was that I dug that record out.

The Peter Zummo record I have, Zummo with an X, is a must for Russell fans, I don't think he get's credit as composer, but with him playing cello and singing, it's pretty damn Arthur Russell!

finally got the World of Echo reissue today, haven't watched the DVD yet, but it's a beautiful package.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I got mine too!! For $23! It's going for $45 on Amazon!!

adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

totally forgot - also check peter gordon's 'Innocent' lp. arthur's 'that hat' is sublime.

stirmonster, Monday, 22 November 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)

What ONE Arthur Russell track should I download?

Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Monday, 22 November 2004 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

21.99 at Other Music!

there is no ONE song, he performed in too many different styles.

I'd say two of the tracks that appear on Disco Not Disco, the 6 min edit of Kiss Me Again and Tell You Today.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 November 2004 06:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd say lets go swimming, the walter gibbons mix.

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 08:28 (twenty-one years ago)

actually i'd say a kid like you.

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i love his voice

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad that people in Newcastle, UK are so not with it that I got 24/24 Music for fifty pence (although I had to pay five pounds for the first ESG 12".)

It's almost unbelivable that 24/24 isn't readily available on CD. It shows that there is still a big gulf between rock reissues and those of other genres, esp. dance stuff, where it could be said that reissues are even more crucial bcz a lot of important/excellent stuff never came out on LPs in the first place.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The Peter Zummo record I have, Zummo with an X, is a must for Russell fans, I don't think he get's credit as composer, but with him playing cello and singing, it's pretty damn Arthur Russell!

Gee, Dan. You still owe me a trade for that Tower Of Meaning CD from a while back! *hint*

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 22 November 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...
I've been trying to track down Tower of Meaning, 24-24, and some more of his stuff with Zummo (I only have Experimenting With Household Chemicals.) Anyone on slsk/want to arrange a trade by mail?

stephen morris (stephen morris), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

that article is awkwardly written and a little tired, but HE certanily isn't, he's great! haven't listened to much World of Echo yet. My favorite song of his right now is probably Another Thought. i used to love it when he talked about love etc. but now I love it when he talks about the ocean.

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

what's on Tower of Meaning?

am i the only one that has (has heard) Instrumentals? it's trés boring

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i have that jaXon. and i agree.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

did you finally get "24 24 music" from dan? is it fantastic? is there a lot of stuff that didn't make it to World of?

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

no :( i never got it. hey have you heard that tiger stripes 12"? its siano but russells fingerprints are all over it.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet I'd love "Instrumentals", I LOVE boring music

A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Friday, 10 June 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

while at the emp, i learned that tim lawrence, who wrote love saves the day. is current working on a russell biog.

strng hlkngtn, Friday, 10 June 2005 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't remember that, sorry.

I think one of the pieces on instrumentals is incredibly beautiful. The rest of it isn't nearly as interesting. You know the one, if you've heard it.

There's absolutely a few cool cuts on 24-24 that didn't make it to World of, and remember that the versions of World Of are the remixes, right? The Francois K version of Go Bang vs. the 24-24 version. I have to check that these are different. I recall the album versions being looser. But there's 1 song that totally ROCKS. I'll computerize and post it sometime soon.

Don't forget to aim yr slsk or actual shopping tools at the Loft box-set for it's original version of Is It All Over My Face, recorded as a 13 min hippie disco jam.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:23 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
Great interview (courtesy Danny Wang) with Steven Hall, AR's guitarist friend here.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:51 (twenty years ago)

I like how Steven Hall says Arthur was incredibly forward, and propositioned him the first time they met.

Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

Funny how AR hung out at the Ninth Circle bar, which Danny Krivit says (in this same issue of Keep On) was owned by his dad! This Steven Hall interview is definitely one of the best re: Russell I've read yet.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:19 (twenty years ago)

ok, i had to yousend this for someone else so i thought i'd post this link here. for me, this is one of the holy grails of arthur's music. i have listened to this so many times and yet i still hear something new each time. it is from a peter zummo lp called 'zummo with an x' and is a 20 minute russell / zummo collaboration featuring trombone, cello, tabla, arthur murmuring and echo. i think this is possibly thee definition of sublime. it is listed on the sleeve as part 4 of 6 and i live in hope that one day the other 5 parts will see the light of day.

http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1SD7B2S78KM280LKKQATNSBQ22

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

I found that record at the WFMU record fair in an "art music/downtown" type crate, and still paid some 25 bucks for it. Really beautiful.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

thank you jd!

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

omg thanks twitch this is gorgeous

(so did 24-24 ever get a commercial release or what?)

strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

nope.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

seventeen minutes in and LOVING this. sublime is right.

mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

thx stirmonster!

wow this is great!

i'ven never heard arthur russell before....is it all this cool? sweet....

Doesn't M@tt He1geson Deserve A Cool, Funny Login Name? (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

wow matt go buy the world of... RIGHT NOW (nb: may contain upwards of 50% disco)

strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

will do....

i ain't scurred of a lil' disco!

Doesn't M@tt He1geson Deserve A Cool, Funny Login Name? (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

late last year, dustygroove had boots of 24-24 music, which is about as close as you can get, i reckon.
not sure of the legal situation reissuing it, but i would think Audika could do something about it. i know they are working on the orchestral stuff right now, along with another project.

Beta (abeta), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

thanks for the track

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Stirmonster you roxxx!

Gerard (Gerard), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Cheers Stirmonster! This track is exquisite!

LRJP! (LRJP!), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Merci, twitch!

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

another great reason to never use amazon. join me

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:08 (two years ago)

we need to flood these pages with one star reviews

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:12 (two years ago)

this is all garbage obv, but that TG cover photo is hilarious.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 26 March 2024 14:37 (two years ago)

If anyone wants this to listen to on-the-go I can Dropbox it. They stopped the download facility on it.

― Kat Slater Slag meme. (jed_), Thursday, October 26, 2017 6:08 PM (six years ago) bookmarkflaglink

could someone please YSI the 2017 RA podcast? Many thanks!

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:47 (two years ago)

Here 'tis - https://we.tl/t-E11IknSSZt

Maresn3st, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:55 (two years ago)

thanks you rule ♥️

Deflatormouse, Thursday, 28 March 2024 00:59 (two years ago)

Something new is coming…

https://x.com/audikarecords/status/1773721038540730775?s=61&t=OIvYKs_vXneO_K6s2BAzdA

I am using your worlds, Friday, 29 March 2024 17:00 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

Thanks, also Maresn3st thanks for the podcast!

re the xpost new bio and Barbican, Kitty Empire's got good commentary here, mostly on Arthur and the book, hope to see sep thing on Barbican in May:

A secret hero of the dancefloor, the avant garde producer and musician Arthur Russell occupies a strange and silvery slot in the annals of music. He was a low-key cult figure in his lifetime, but one who has been increasingly celebrated. His prodigious output and his refusal to have that work pinned down has, in the decades since his death from Aids-related illness in 1992, birthed a small cottage industry of admiration and exegesis: compilations, reissues, covers albums, biographies and even a film. The Barbican in London has given over a night in May to celebrate Russell’s often confounding, genre-spanning work – and the publication of this latest account.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/15/travels-over-feeling-arthur-russell-a-life-richard-king-review-barbican-exhibition-london

dow, Monday, 15 April 2024 20:42 (two years ago)

Barbican event info -

https://www.barbican.org.uk/whats-on/2024/event/travels-over-feeling-the-music-of-arthur-russell

stirmonster, Monday, 15 April 2024 22:32 (two years ago)

Anybody got the new book yet?

Glad it's offering something augmentary to and seemingly not redundant of 'Hold On To Your Dreams' and 'Buddhist Bubblegum'...

Soundslike, Friday, 19 April 2024 03:28 (two years ago)

two months pass...

from Audika:

P.S. - A new Arthur album of previously unreleased live material has been completed. Hoping to have it released before the end of the year.

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 3 July 2024 19:39 (two years ago)

one month passes...

Review of xpost new bio:
https://southwestreview.com/the-kinetic-spell-of-arthur-russell/

dow, Saturday, 3 August 2024 20:37 (one year ago)

Another review, maybe more balanced, as a book review, not just intro to/celebration of AR:
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n16/ian-penman/nom-de-boom

As I said to friend who sent this link:

Wow! I'm no Penman expert, but this is the best piece of his that I've seen, in terms of focus, insight (re big picture and zoom lens) into the subject and the book itself, incl the challenge of keeping AR himself in sufficient focus w/o reductionism--as somebody who not only contained but extruded multitudes---also when curation of so many rich materials (on the author's part) can seem too fetishy---but overall, seems like it has yet more details that I hadn't seen before, and of course we also have (Professor and party organizer) Tim Lawrence's maybe more on-track bio, and the Wild Combination doc (with DVD extras) etc. for fun comparative studies--and an AR live comp out later this year---thanks again!

So yeah, I want this bio too---let there be Arthur books like there are Dylan books, with still so much AR to be known, incl. (my main interest as with Alex Chilton, Sun Ra, other sidewinders) his music and paths to it.

dow, Wednesday, 7 August 2024 17:33 (one year ago)

All Arthur DJ set recorded at The Barbican, London back in May.

https://soundcloud.com/twitch/jd-twitch-all-arthur-russell-dj-set-live-at-the-barbican-london-250524

stirmonster, Wednesday, 14 August 2024 15:39 (one year ago)

Thanks so much!

dow, Wednesday, 14 August 2024 17:01 (one year ago)

This was a nice surprise. And it made me realise I need to get that Felix record which I’ve somehow overlooked.

I am using your worlds, Thursday, 15 August 2024 07:08 (one year ago)

For me, first 10 minutes often benefits a lot from visual interest---after that, music pulls me in more consistently, w for inst vocal punctuation added to singing and cello rhythms, later some good tiny variations in cello volume, w arco vibrations as well as usual picking etc.---and wau around 24 min. in

Arthur Russell - Some Imaginary Far Away Type Things A.K.A. Lost In The Meshes

122,753 views Dec 9, 2014
Unedited Video Footage By Phill Niblock
Music by Arthur Russell
Sound Recording: Steve Cellum

Video and Audio recorded on ¾ inch U-matic tape using a single phosphor-tube color camera. Audio additionally recorded onto PCM Digital.

Recorded at Experimental Intermedia Foundation September 22, and October 27, 1985

Music partially contained on the Arthur Russell album “WORLD OF ECHO”, Audika Records.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZdApQYSCIc

dow, Thursday, 15 August 2024 18:30 (one year ago)

& visuals good all the way through, I think---as I get more and more into music---

dow, Thursday, 15 August 2024 18:34 (one year ago)

one month passes...

i'm not sure how i feel about these in the light of the miracle remixes. i mean they're not bad, it just feels kinda wrong to me to stick a 4:4 beat under it

ava (paolo), Friday, 20 September 2024 19:13 (one year ago)

First advance track from Talking Heads box is that b-side version of "Psycho Killer" w Arthur--nice!

dow, Friday, 20 September 2024 19:40 (one year ago)

one month passes...

https://week-end.bandcamp.com/album/kiss-me-again
Kiss Me Again finally gets a reissue!

willem, Thursday, 7 November 2024 06:37 (one year ago)

Dickhead move to effectively make it not available to buy digitally (€999). I hate vinyl-only nonsense.

Soundslike, Thursday, 7 November 2024 13:54 (one year ago)

It must be one of the terms of their licensing agreement with Warner or whoever owns the rights.

Where did Boo Berry go (Craig D.), Thursday, 7 November 2024 14:03 (one year ago)

licensing from majors, especially Warner, is a nightmare. I'm sure this is on them. The majors have been ok with licensing out material for limited vinyl release or physical-only product, but fees associated with a more expansive release probably prohibitive.

dan selzer, Thursday, 7 November 2024 14:42 (one year ago)

it is, or at least was available digitally on itunes for years.

the baseball cap is tempting :)

stirmonster, Thursday, 7 November 2024 20:12 (one year ago)

Managed to order the cap, turned out to be easier than getting an Optimo cap ;)
Bought the 12" too, have got the og Sire release but couldn't resist remaster & liner notes!

willem, Friday, 8 November 2024 09:27 (one year ago)

$50 for the 12" shipped (US)? Insanity.

Soundslike, Saturday, 9 November 2024 01:46 (one year ago)

five months pass...

did anyone else go to the Wild Up performances of 24-24 music in LA? I was underwhelmed except for about 10 min about an hour in when they pulled everything back and let the music drift a bit before building back to a big finish. the rest felt brash and celebratory and lacked the mystery, mixed emotions and oddness of the recorded version

bryan, Sunday, 4 May 2025 15:51 (one year ago)

curious what others thought. the crowd was loving it.

bryan, Sunday, 4 May 2025 15:52 (one year ago)

one year passes...

https://ulyssa.bandcamp.com/album/my-skyscraper

Music Twitter seems to be flipping out and idk I am flipping out myself, this is magnificent

yet I admit I'm still susceptible to ILX's allure (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 3 July 2026 23:20 (three weeks ago)

yeah pretty great!

tylerw, Friday, 3 July 2026 23:30 (three weeks ago)

Thanks for the heads-up 0wen--I esp like the Muppet falsetto on "Yhema" on first flip-through.

Ulyssa is an admirably ecumenically weird label IMO, so am glad to see Steven Hall's stuff coming out via them.

U look M-A-B-U-L-U-S (extended dub version) (Craig D.), Friday, 3 July 2026 23:37 (three weeks ago)

My other first-flip-through note would be that the drum machine on the back-to-back two longest tracks, "Fresh Feeling" and "Special Weakness", really pulls me in, but that of course is prob almost entirely attributable to twenty-two years of Calling Out Of Context worship--am just about to read the just-posted Tone Glow interview with Hall to see what add'l insight is on offer there: https://toneglow.substack.com/p/tone-glow-231-nirosta-steel

U look M-A-B-U-L-U-S (extended dub version) (Craig D.), Friday, 3 July 2026 23:47 (three weeks ago)

Ah, Arthur is in fact on drum machine on the above-noted two tracks, as per the Tone Glow interview:

"The two tracks on the album where [Arthur's] doing the drums, 'FRESH FEELING' and “SPECIAL WEAKNESS,' when we were doing the tape transfer in Orlando last year, the engineer was listening to it and said, “This guy hasn’t made a mistake!” People who are professional drummers use click tracks, and when you listen to those two tracks, they’re only one take and Arthur doesn’t skip the beat. And I’m improvising. Each track is like three or four or five songs, and every time I made a change, Arthur was right on top of it. I was thinking lately that this is how close we were—we were almost like one person at that point in terms of our rhythmic approach. We were so locked in together, and it’s mesmerizing to think about that."

U look M-A-B-U-L-U-S (extended dub version) (Craig D.), Saturday, 4 July 2026 00:05 (two weeks ago)

oh wow

Serfin' USA (sleeve), Saturday, 4 July 2026 01:34 (two weeks ago)

Yeah this is just blinding in its brilliance.

yet I admit I'm still susceptible to ILX's allure (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 4 July 2026 15:01 (two weeks ago)

Thank for the heads up fgti this is fantastic

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 July 2026 16:09 (two weeks ago)

Oh he lives in San Miguel? That’s not that far from my current location lol

✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 4 July 2026 16:13 (two weeks ago)

phenomenal stuff

sous-vide summer camp (seandalai), Saturday, 4 July 2026 16:31 (two weeks ago)

A+

shaking babies (map), Saturday, 4 July 2026 16:57 (two weeks ago)

I just read some dumb-ass Twitter push-back against the sillier and/or more-ephemeral aspects of this album and instead of getting mad I just changed my dn and am now lying down mapping out a fantasy dissertation on this incredible thing-- I feel like I'm learning more about Arthur and his music in listening to this

you have spanked my ass (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 4 July 2026 21:27 (two weeks ago)

the sillier and/or more-ephemeral aspects of this album

surely these are the things that make it feel adventurous and specific

ivy., Saturday, 4 July 2026 21:35 (two weeks ago)

anyway yes this is an amazing document. think i completely lost myself in "fresh feeling" -> "special weakness"

ivy., Saturday, 4 July 2026 21:36 (two weeks ago)

The word I'd personally use is queer but yeah

you have spanked my ass (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 4 July 2026 21:37 (two weeks ago)

all synonyms :)

ivy., Saturday, 4 July 2026 21:37 (two weeks ago)

*big smiles*

you have spanked my ass (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 4 July 2026 21:39 (two weeks ago)

this is amazing

Serfin' USA (sleeve), Sunday, 5 July 2026 03:18 (two weeks ago)

yeahhhhh

this is real good.

shaking babies (map^2), Monday, 6 July 2026 16:25 (two weeks ago)

Nirosta Steel who collaborated with Arthur Russell over the years, has a collection out of 40 years worth of songs called My Skyscraper that is getting lots of critic raves

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/nirosta-steel-my-skyscraper/

curmudgeon, Monday, 13 July 2026 03:06 (one week ago)

As noted above

curmudgeon, Monday, 13 July 2026 03:08 (one week ago)


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