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Just stumbled across this super duper article:

http://www.djfriendly.co.uk/more_arthur.php?PHPSESSID=b85999859e6a03b077fbba7754af8ed8

BTW. I just got a copy of "24 24 Music" by Dinosaur l and I think that this should be at the forefront of the Arthur Russell releases just coming out. I mean - it absolutely nails ,/em> the whole NY disco/No Wave thing infinitely better than, say, Liquid Liquid. It's a fantastic record. Is anyone reissuing this?!

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sorry. Didn't mean to italicize that entire sentence.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

Ok. no more posting to ILM whilst "tipsy". I promise.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:36 (6 years ago) Permalink

dan seltzer mentioned the possibility of this to me recently, so fingers crossed

― mullygrubber (gaz), Saturday, 10 January 2004 06:48 (6 years ago) Permalink

well, if Audika and Sould Jazz don't do it for some reason, and I can't get anyone to let Acute do it, I'll gladly, as I said, make CD-r copies of it for whomever. I think I said recently, it coulda been so cool, a Dinosaur CD with 24-24, the Go Bang mixes and Kiss Me Again, a Loose Joints CD w/ Is It All Over, Pop Your Funk, etc and so forth. I've just been to busy w/ current projects and the actual job that pays the actual bills to be as aggressive as I'd like to be with pursuing reissues...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 10 January 2004 07:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

10 months pass...

Did 24-24 ever get a proper release?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Sunday, 21 November 2004 19:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

I just ordered WORLD OF ECHO. Also, Arthur plays cello on a bunch of tracks (some of which also feature Bob Dylan)on the Allen Ginsberg box

― don, Sunday, 21 November 2004 19:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Has anybody heard the Necessaries? Did they make any records w/Arthur Russell on keyboards?

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

there is an lp with arthur on it. i didn't really like it.

he also appears on a couple of peter zummo albums ('song iv' by russell and zummo is one of my fave things ever), and on a jill kroesen album (which i love but it's hard to hear arthur).

― stirmonster, Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

thanks. will search for zummo and jill kroesen. her name rings a bell, perhaps an early 80s nyc new-music type.

― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Sunday, 21 November 2004 21:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

hes also on the bonus cut on mimi's cd soak.

― bulbs (bulbs), Sunday, 21 November 2004 22:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

I had the Necessaries' "Walking And Driving At The Same Time" on my once-blog a few months ago. Best thing on that album. Here's a description.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 22 November 2004 01:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Necessaries aren't that good. I want the Dinosaur album bad.

― Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Monday, 22 November 2004 01:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

me too.

― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 02:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Walking and Driving is the one song on the album where you can really tell Arthur's involved. I played it at my Arthur Russell tribute night a few years ago(remember...) and Tom Lee came into the booth, introduced himself and told me how impressed/suprised I was that I dug that record out.

The Peter Zummo record I have, Zummo with an X, is a must for Russell fans, I don't think he get's credit as composer, but with him playing cello and singing, it's pretty damn Arthur Russell!

finally got the World of Echo reissue today, haven't watched the DVD yet, but it's a beautiful package.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

I got mine too!! For $23! It's going for $45 on Amazon!!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 22 November 2004 03:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

totally forgot - also check peter gordon's 'Innocent' lp. arthur's 'that hat' is sublime.

― stirmonster, Monday, 22 November 2004 05:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

What ONE Arthur Russell track should I download?

― Sanjay McDougal (jaymc), Monday, 22 November 2004 05:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

21.99 at Other Music!

there is no ONE song, he performed in too many different styles.

I'd say two of the tracks that appear on Disco Not Disco, the 6 min edit of Kiss Me Again and Tell You Today.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 22 November 2004 06:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'd say lets go swimming, the walter gibbons mix.

― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 08:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

actually i'd say a kid like you.

― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 08:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

i love his voice

― bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 22 November 2004 08:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm glad that people in Newcastle, UK are so not with it that I got 24/24 Music for fifty pence (although I had to pay five pounds for the first ESG 12".)

It's almost unbelivable that 24/24 isn't readily available on CD. It shows that there is still a big gulf between rock reissues and those of other genres, esp. dance stuff, where it could be said that reissues are even more crucial bcz a lot of important/excellent stuff never came out on LPs in the first place.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 22 November 2004 13:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

The Peter Zummo record I have, Zummo with an X, is a must for Russell fans, I don't think he get's credit as composer, but with him playing cello and singing, it's pretty damn Arthur Russell!

Gee, Dan. You still owe me a trade for that Tower Of Meaning CD from a while back! *hint*

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 22 November 2004 18:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

I've been trying to track down Tower of Meaning, 24-24, and some more of his stuff with Zummo (I only have Experimenting With Household Chemicals.) Anyone on slsk/want to arrange a trade by mail?

― stephen morris (stephen morris), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

that article is awkwardly written and a little tired, but HE certanily isn't, he's great! haven't listened to much World of Echo yet. My favorite song of his right now is probably Another Thought. i used to love it when he talked about love etc. but now I love it when he talks about the ocean.

― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

what's on Tower of Meaning?

am i the only one that has (has heard) Instrumentals? it's trés boring

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

yeah i have that jaXon. and i agree.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

did you finally get "24 24 music" from dan? is it fantastic? is there a lot of stuff that didn't make it to World of?

― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

no :( i never got it. hey have you heard that tiger stripes 12"? its siano but russells fingerprints are all over it.

― mullygrubbr (bulbs), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

I bet I'd love "Instrumentals", I LOVE boring music

― A Viking of Some Note (Andrew Thames), Friday, 10 June 2005 02:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

while at the emp, i learned that tim lawrence, who wrote love saves the day. is current working on a russell biog.

― strng hlkngtn, Friday, 10 June 2005 03:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

I didn't remember that, sorry.

I think one of the pieces on instrumentals is incredibly beautiful. The rest of it isn't nearly as interesting. You know the one, if you've heard it.

There's absolutely a few cool cuts on 24-24 that didn't make it to World of, and remember that the versions of World Of are the remixes, right? The Francois K version of Go Bang vs. the 24-24 version. I have to check that these are different. I recall the album versions being looser. But there's 1 song that totally ROCKS. I'll computerize and post it sometime soon.

Don't forget to aim yr slsk or actual shopping tools at the Loft box-set for it's original version of Is It All Over My Face, recorded as a 13 min hippie disco jam.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 10 June 2005 05:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Great interview (courtesy Danny Wang) with Steven Hall, AR's guitarist friend here.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

I like how Steven Hall says Arthur was incredibly forward, and propositioned him the first time they met.

― Confounded (Confounded), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Funny how AR hung out at the Ninth Circle bar, which Danny Krivit says (in this same issue of Keep On) was owned by his dad! This Steven Hall interview is definitely one of the best re: Russell I've read yet.

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 22:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

ok, i had to yousend this for someone else so i thought i'd post this link here. for me, this is one of the holy grails of arthur's music. i have listened to this so many times and yet i still hear something new each time. it is from a peter zummo lp called 'zummo with an x' and is a 20 minute russell / zummo collaboration featuring trombone, cello, tabla, arthur murmuring and echo. i think this is possibly thee definition of sublime. it is listed on the sleeve as part 4 of 6 and i live in hope that one day the other 5 parts will see the light of day.

http://s41.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1SD7B2S78KM280LKKQATNSBQ22

― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

I found that record at the WFMU record fair in an "art music/downtown" type crate, and still paid some 25 bucks for it. Really beautiful.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

thank you jd!

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

omg thanks twitch this is gorgeous

(so did 24-24 ever get a commercial release or what?)

― strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

nope.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

seventeen minutes in and LOVING this. sublime is right.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

thx stirmonster!

wow this is great!

i'ven never heard arthur russell before....is it all this cool? sweet....

― Doesn't M@tt He1geson Deserve A Cool, Funny Login Name? (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

wow matt go buy the world of... RIGHT NOW (nb: may contain upwards of 50% disco)

― strng hlkngtn, Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

will do....

i ain't scurred of a lil' disco!

― Doesn't M@tt He1geson Deserve A Cool, Funny Login Name? (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

late last year, dustygroove had boots of 24-24 music, which is about as close as you can get, i reckon.
not sure of the legal situation reissuing it, but i would think Audika could do something about it. i know they are working on the orchestral stuff right now, along with another project.

― Beta (abeta), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

thanks for the track

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Stirmonster you roxxx!

― Gerard (Gerard), Thursday, 18 August 2005 14:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Cheers Stirmonster! This track is exquisite!

― LRJP! (LRJP!), Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Merci, twitch!

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 18 August 2005 21:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

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I could listen to "Your Motion Says" and the title track all day long.

― The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 March 2009 21:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sorry to be grouchy.

― dow, Monday, 9 March 2009 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Sleeping Bag Sessions is wonderful. Dance Arthur is still tops for me above folky/Kitchen/singer-songwriter Arthur. The man had such a malleable, off kilter way with the technology and techniques of club/dance music that I could listen and learn forever.

― Capitaine Jay Vee, Monday, 16 March 2009 02:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

― Your original display name will be displayed in brackets (Display Name), Wednesday, 22 April 2009 05:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

― m coleman, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 14:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

That is absolutely wonderful, hadn't heard that one before. Has that been reissued on anything? I'd rank that in the tops of his dance stuff.

― Soundslike, Thursday, 30 April 2009 00:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

west end reissued it about two years ago, you can probably find it at one of the online record stores.

the one that is still infuriatingly out of print is 'kiss me again' - considering sire have reissued things like 'white horse' you'd hope they'll get around to repressing it at some point.

― butt_hurton (haitch), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

You can find it on the Disco Not Disco comp.

― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha, that's not in print either now!

― butt_hurton (haitch), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

also it had a short, edited version. this is the one i'm after.

― butt_hurton (haitch), Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, speaking of which, didn't somebody ask about any of the Sleeping Bag Sessions tracks being on Soul Jazz comps? I've got ones with those versions of "Tiger Stripes", "Schoolbell/Treehouse", "Indian Ocean", and "Go Bang!", but all my Soul Jazz comps featuring Arthur are of print, I think, and I've never seen the other tracks on SBS.

― dow, Thursday, 30 April 2009 01:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I secretly like the 6 minute edit of Kiss Me Again that appears on Disco Not Disco better then the 12/13 minute full length and dub versions, but of course all 3 are better then anything else ever recorded in the history of music.

The SBS comp has a version of Go Bang that's never been released, the fabled Walter Gibbons mix.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 April 2009 02:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

really??? i way prefer the longer versions.

― autogucci cru (deej), Thursday, 30 April 2009 06:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

same. dub is my fav

― just sayin, Thursday, 30 April 2009 07:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Walter Gibbons mix of Go Bang has become my favourite.

I think Stirmonster has also done a re-edit of Kiss Me Again which he linked to on an Arthur Russell thread before.

― I am using your worlds, Thursday, 30 April 2009 10:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think Stirmonster has also done a re-edit of Kiss Me Again which he linked to on an Arthur Russell thread before.

it's really just a "radio" edit of the b-side to the original 12" version that cuts out 5 minutes of it as i couldn't fit the full version onto our "psyche out" mix. it's also useful for when it's hard to fit the full length version in a set but in an ideal world, i'd go with the full length version every time.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Soul Jazz Arthur Russell comp is back in print on CD and LP as of a month or so ago, so pick it up if you haven't got it, it's great.

― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 30 April 2009 11:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah, really...I heard the edit first and it's just got this harder edge to it.

― dan selzer, Thursday, 30 April 2009 14:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah the soul jazz comp is so much better than the sleeping bag sessions, walter gibbons mix aside and was my gateway to the man really. just listening to tell you on youtube and i need it baaad

― straightola, Thursday, 30 April 2009 15:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

I secretly like the 6 minute edit of Kiss Me Again that appears on Disco Not Disco better then the 12/13 minute full length and dub versions

Cosign (minus the secretly).

This Sleeping Bag thing is a mess, obv. I like how Bonzo Goes to Washington, which is essentially Bootsy Collins and Jerry Harrison's record, is now being claimed as a Russell creation. (He mixed it.)

― Matos W.K., Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Chill Pill" on the Sleeping Bag Sessions is cool.

― Trip Maker, Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

ye, besides the gibbons mix "chill pill" is my favorite on the sbs record

― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

the world always needs more trippy, dubbed out kid-rap

― i am the eye in the sky... (psychgawsple), Thursday, 30 April 2009 18:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

the seven inch version of "Pop Your Funk" that Toop described as "one of the craziest 45s ever released."

wow, it really is

― like i read your blog (braveclub), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 16:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

Where did you hear it, Beats in Space?

― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

i downloaded it from a blog

― zone 1 penguin (braveclub), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

link?

― elan, Wednesday, 20 May 2009 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

link

― zone 1 penguin (braveclub), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

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― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Wednesday, 20 May 2009 22:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

why the sadface

― zone 1 penguin (braveclub), Thursday, 21 May 2009 09:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

said it was deleted earlier, workin' fine now!

― ❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉Plaxico❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉❉ (I know, right?), Thursday, 21 May 2009 09:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yo my blog!

That mix of Pop Yr Funk IS nuts. Someone needs to reissue it as a seven inch.

― CosMc (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 21 May 2009 10:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

a friend assured me that the a-side of that 7 inch is even more killer.

― beta blog, Thursday, 21 May 2009 17:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

great article. it also mentions the pop yr funk 7" (to bridge the thread from may to september ;-)

― willem, Friday, 11 September 2009 13:16 (11 months ago) Permalink

Thanks Willem, that is a great read.

Also, I'm very pleased to hear about

long awaited in depth biography Hold On to Your Dreams: Arthur Russell and the Downtown Music Scene, 1973–92 is due out this fall from author of the disco history Love Saves The Day Tim Lawrence. Lawrence confirms – “The book is going to be about 400 pages long”

― OCD Scrobbles (I am using your worlds), Friday, 11 September 2009 13:40 (11 months ago) Permalink

Yeah thanks for the link Willem, great article.

― young depardieu looming out of void in hour of profound triumph (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 11 September 2009 18:49 (11 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

have people talked about this album of covers coming out soon?
http://www.myspace.com/electricmindsrecords

― jaxon, Monday, 12 October 2009 18:02 (10 months ago) Permalink

'New' track Come To Life streaming http://www.myspace.com/audikarecords
7" single released via Terrible Records today.

― bertie, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 18:41 (10 months ago) Permalink

excited about that 7' but for some reason not so excited about the covers album though i will no doubt check it out. there aren't many arthur russell covers i've heard that can touch the original.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 19:04 (10 months ago) Permalink

God, what a fantastic track. Russell just seemed to accidentally create whole genres nobody else has even thought of--I mean, really, at what point in history would that music have made sense? 60s? 70s? 80s? 00s? None, to my ears--but it's great nevertheless. Wow. Really should have been on 'Love Is Overtaking Me'.

― Soundslike, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 19:38 (10 months ago) Permalink

Anybody go to the October 10 panels in NYC at NYU?

Arthur Russell

conference at NYU -- "kiss
me again: the life and legacy of arthur russell," organized in conjunction
with the publication of tim lawrence's new book, "Hold On to Your Dreams:
Arthur Russell and the Downtown Music Scene" (duke university press). Full
schedule at http://arthursymposium.blogspot.com/

― curmudgeon, Thursday, October 8, 2009

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 19:44 (10 months ago) Permalink

Second the love for "Come to Life."

― Douglas, Thursday, 15 October 2009 20:41 (10 months ago) Permalink

Always surprised I never hear anyone mention More Real off Event Horizon by The Necessaries. Pop/rock Arthur in fine form. The Finish Line is pretty cool too.

― bertie, Thursday, 22 October 2009 16:12 (10 months ago) Permalink

"More Real" has long been one of my Russell faves, definitely. Put it on my '1981' mix even though that's a slight fib--I believe it was only on the 2nd version of the album, which wasn't 1981, I think.

― Soundslike, Thursday, 22 October 2009 17:26 (10 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Does anybody know what the original tracklist for the "Corn" album was supposed to be? I've read there were multiple versions, but I've never seen any of them.

― J. Sam, Sunday, 22 November 2009 17:05 (9 months ago) Permalink

ok half way through tim lawrence's "hold on to your dreams" which is all and more than i hope it would be.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 26 November 2009 14:08 (9 months ago) Permalink

ohhh, did you get a pre-release copy or is it available?

― jed_, Thursday, 26 November 2009 15:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

it's been out a couple of weeks. i had it on pre-order from amazon so got it right away.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 26 November 2009 15:59 (9 months ago) Permalink

cheers, will seek!

― jed_, Thursday, 26 November 2009 16:11 (9 months ago) Permalink

ah neat, I thought this was still something for the distant future. I've been meaning to read the thing he wrote on AR and Deleuze & Guattari for ages (since I stopped being annoyed that it existed when I had planned on doing something similar myself), so I have to get that out of the way first...

― FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 26 November 2009 23:53 (9 months ago) Permalink

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