Loren Connors

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I finally bought something by this fellow after hearing him lauded by mostly everyone, and having heard some MP3s that I quite liked. It was a 7" and only a few bucks--"Moon Gone Down 1 + 2 // Family Vineyard." No label listed. Something new, I assume...

What next?

Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 27 December 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

family vineyard is the label.

hstencil to thread!!

geeta (geeta), Saturday, 27 December 2003 06:50 (twenty-two years ago)

9TH AVENUE and IN PITTSBURGH, though two very different records, are probably my favorites.

doug (doug), Saturday, 27 December 2003 06:53 (twenty-two years ago)

yes i have been trying to track those down with no luck.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 27 December 2003 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, another vote here for 'In Pittsburgh' - is it no longer for sale on the Drag City website?

Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 27 December 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I too was very curious about Mr. (Mazzacane) Connors after reading glowing write-ups in Ptolemaic Terrascope, the Eclipse Records catalogue, and other places. I heard a couple of things. One was solo guitar. It bored me to tears. The other two were duos with Keiji Haino that were good, but nothing to write home about. I have about given up, chalking him up in the not-my-cup-of-tea category, but I understand that he has some noisy stuff with bands backing him up. Can somebody point me in the direction of some of that?

John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 27 December 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
an ILXer sorted me out with 'in pitsburgh'.

Was playing last night and really got into it, far better than the discs with haino and the prev solo disc; that one was electric with lots of feedback and gaps of slience which couldn't sustain my attention, whereas this one is accoustic, still allowing for some space, but the playing is a mixture of the laid-back with lots notes slightly bent and lots of micro-trembling (listening on headphones really brings this out).

The atmosphere is really charged and reminds of fushitsusha's double live discs on psf.

The last track has vocals and the whole thing is gorgeous.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 13 March 2004 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't remember the name of the disc by him I have - "Tenth Avenue" I think - your one sounds similar though Julio, stern but quite gentle instrumental work, very soothing. I used to play it a lot, less so now because that kind of thing is very wife-unfriendly.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 13 March 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, this is weird - I guess it's a New York thing but Loren's music is so ingrained into what I think of as 'experimental' music, I just sorta always figured anyone with even a passing interest would be well acquainted with his entire recorded history. His presence is always felt around here. Maybe it's just that I've been listening to him for such a long time. When I first heard him i was 16 and I thought 'he' was a 'she' (my friend Tovah still won't let me live that down)

There was a period of time he became a bit of a Claptonite, but his style has always unique and very expressive. There aren't any bad Loren Mazzacane Connors records.

That said, search The Crucible, done with his partner Suzanne Langille, and his work with Kath Bloom as well, for a skewed take on folk blues. Search the box set on Father Yod for the creepy stuff (the stuff under the name Guitar Roberts, from his own label, Daggett). There's a few great 7"s - most notably the Stations of the Cross double set on Menlo Park - and yes, In Pittsburgh is highly recommended as well.

Destroy (and I own all of these records, so 'destroy' is harsh, but let's just say these aren't really essential) most of the 'duo recordings - anything involving Alan Licht, for instance (including the awful Hoffman Estates) - and there's one on Table of the Elements called simply Solo Guitar that I find sorta boring (and the apex of his aformentioned Claptonitis)

But a more worthwhile guitarist working within the loose boundaries of experimental music I'd be hard pressed to name. Lots to choose from, so - GO SEARCH!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 13 March 2004 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

tico- yeah i think you're talking abt 'tenth avenue', mentioned by doug upthread.

I really don't think of him as experimental. Like keiji haino or jandek, someone who does 'stuff', who has an especially unique range, and who has been able to, in these times of multi-independant labels etc etc. to release tons of material. More like a ''lonely voice''.

His name has been mentioned a couple of times while browsing for recs, and the reaction has been negative.

I'd love to see him live.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 13 March 2004 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I've had the chance to see him live and I enjoyed it very much -- it was deceptively simple and seemingly random, but in retrospect he was clearly creating a performance that ended on a strong, dramatic note. Rah!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 March 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

nooooooo! don't destroy 'Hoffman Estates'. and don't dismiss it so coldly. listen to it again. i'm no Lichtite, but he, O'Rourke and LMC really captured the spirit of the Davis/Macero studio partnership, within a context that remains true to Loren's singular talents. i think it's a devastatingly beautiful record.

for Connors at his most Fushitusha-esque and elemental, check out the Haunted House 'Up In Flames' CD on Erstwhile. soul-wrenching improv blues immolating itself to the heartbeat of Neel Murgai's daf.


echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Saturday, 13 March 2004 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh echoinggrove, I'm so glad you posted that abt the wonderful Hoffman Estates rec, it always seems to get such an undeservedly bad press on ILM - Kevin Drumm, amongst many others, is sublime on that rec

Roger, my experience in England is that every decent alt rec shop has one LMC CD, but it is never the same one! He's only ever played once in London, a duo improv set w/ O'Rourke at a venue called the Garage, poss. THE most inappropriate venue for LMC's kind of music - he started out playing really quietly as you wld expect, but was drowned out by barside chatterers and so he and O'Rourke cranked up the volume for a fairly nasty out-noize set that made better sense of Loren's collabs w/ Keiji. From my limited familiarity w/ his (needlessly) huge discog I'd say that In Pittsburgh (which I always thought was played on a electric guitar, but whadda I know) does mark some kind of high point in terms of composition/sound/improv whatsit - I sometimes find the later LMC albs a bit bitty and insubstantial, too much vapour and not enough content, tho' on some of the earlier recs I've heard the guitar conception isn't QUITE there yet. I'm also not so keen on the recs where Suzanne Langille sings a lot - she seems to be much more of a trad/formalist bluesist than LMC, and therefore I find a little goes a long way. And that five CD Father Yod box is REALLY diff. to sit through - all that creepy vocalising and deformed acoustic plucking cld drive you mad, I tell you, mad

More searches: The Little Matchgirl (a real tearjerker), both his duos w/ Darin Gray, and that superb MMMR noize-rave-up he made w/ Montera, Moore and Ranaldo

Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 13 March 2004 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I really enjoyed Hoffman Estates too - out of the records of his I own, that one gets spun the most. Would also *strongly* recommend the collaboration w/ Kath Bloom entitled 1981-1984; lost and lonely folk music, with Connors mostly playing fairly straight -but exquisite!- acoustic guitar, and Bloom singing like the most *broken* person I've heard this side of Daniel Johnston. There's one song called, I think, 'I Was Wondering' that just flattens me every time I hear it. Very simple, very haunting, just makes Cat Power (and I love Chan!) sound like such a dud. Hey, it might even be the John Fahey - Beth Gibbons collaboration you were always praying for.

Got Vol 2 with Keiji Heino, but it's not quite the skeleton-rattler I was hoping to hear. Prefer the Alan Licht duets (which surprises me). Only have a couple of solo discs: The Daggett Years, which I gotta say I just can't listen to at all, and Calloden Harvest, which is quite a nice one, in a wind-howling-through-the-arse-of-a-corpse sorta way.

Saw the London show with JO'R (and Hood!) and can vouch for what Andrew says.

Any opinions on the Haunted House stuff?

NickB (NickB), Saturday, 13 March 2004 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh duh, Haunted House gets the nod oop there, so that's another one for the list...

NickB (NickB), Saturday, 13 March 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

haha ok 'in pitsburgh' sounded like accoustic, maybe I've heard so much distoretd electric I can't quite tell when its undistorted (what do i know) (btw andrew you said elsewhere you're looking for 'in pitsburgh' so if you'd like a copy lemme know and I can tape or CDR it for ya).

thanks for all the recommnedations, looks like I'll be spending lots of time with some of his other stuff (guess I am going for hoffmann states next).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 13 March 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

You've been warned, Julio. I'm a pretty big fan of some of those folks (especially Drumm), and I think I have a pretty good grip on what you're into at this point, and I tell ya brother - Hoffman Estates is total wank.

roger adultery, Saturday, 13 March 2004 23:33 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...
not only does loren do music, he is also accomplished in writing haiku poetry, does wonderful drawings and used to do paintings that hardly ever see the light of day, edits videos which he then accompanies with his own unique music,and is an educated and very humble person. he deserves a much higher recognition in the public eye. for those who would like a better sense of his music, you can look out for his 'airs', 'portrait of a soul' rather than on his many collaborations with others. and of course, to see him live (solo).

nyc, Wednesday, 7 April 2004 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
bump

Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 1 April 2007 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Always hoped to track down that Kath Bloom record ,but that 3cd retrospective on family vineyard seems the ideal start, really. All I've heard is the few tracks off of the Harmony of the Spheres comp, which kinda reminded me of Roy Montgomery.

gnarly sceptre, Monday, 2 April 2007 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

I'm surprised that there isn't a lot more talk on Loren Mazzacane Connors on here. This single thread is all I see with any actual content.

Anyway, I got a second hand copy of 'Moonyean' on Road Cone and am reminded of how much I love his stuff. It's so heavy with feeling, often sadness, and yet so simple in a way, just him and his guitar. Going to have to dig out the other stuff of his I have and relisten to them.

krakow, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 12:26 (seventeen years ago)

There was an interview with him in last november's Wire. I don't know his music but the man himself came across very aimable. A few tracks from a retrospective 2CD set are streamed here.

willem, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

Has anyone heard Loren Connors & Jim O'Rourke's 'Two Nice Catholic Boys' album yet? It looks very promising.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 12:50 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

Portrait of a Soul is one of my favourites. As Roses Bow, the collected airs is also a very fine release - definitely work checking.

I haven't heard the latest J O'Rourke collaboration yet. I have a performance of theirs, released on Hat Hut, simply called "In Bern". Whilst not bad, it's rather flat in my view.

Duke, Sunday, 22 March 2009 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

Love the stuff of his on the Harmony of the Spheres compilation, but haven't checked out anything else.

Dude has a big discography. Where best to start?

ilxor, Sunday, 22 March 2009 20:39 (seventeen years ago)

"Night Through -- singles and collected works 1976-2004" is a good overall collection and introduction to his work. 3 discs.

Duke, Sunday, 22 March 2009 20:59 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks v much!

ilxor, Tuesday, 24 March 2009 03:03 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

love this guy so much

bear, bear, bear, Monday, 18 July 2011 08:01 (fourteen years ago)

Me too. Jamming Hell's Kitchen Park a lot lately. So many good albums.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 18 July 2011 10:11 (fourteen years ago)

i wish i still had my cd of 'calloden harvest.'
been hankering to hear that lately.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 18 July 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

Listening to Hell's Kitchen Park now; great record.
New Haunted House LP is also a fave lately, though in an entirely diff style (think Dead C-style noise-rock)

one dis leads to another (ian), Saturday, 3 September 2011 19:50 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

Loren is just great

Hollis Frampton Comes Alive! (admrl), Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:09 (fourteen years ago)

Agreed. Not really a dud in the entire vast, vast discography. The king.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 3 November 2011 03:58 (fourteen years ago)

there's a new haunted house record! haven't heard it yet but I love that last one.

original bgm, Thursday, 3 November 2011 12:34 (fourteen years ago)

and I see now that it's already been mentioned, oops.

original bgm, Thursday, 3 November 2011 12:35 (fourteen years ago)

two months pass...

This Haunted House LP is a beaut.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Thursday, 19 January 2012 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

Saw Loren Connors last night playing with Suzanne Langille and it was stunning! Fragile, yet even fierce at points; melancholy, yes, but also playful and fun; totally mesmerising at all times.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8115/8624586556_47ccec9bf3_z.jpg
Loren Connors & Suzanne Langille at Counterflows 2013 by Crimson Glow Photography, on Flickr

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Saturday, 6 April 2013 13:37 (thirteen years ago)

He's playing with Keiji Haino and Matana Roberts at the Whitney Museum in NYC on 4/20. I've got tickets - I think it might be a solo Matana set and a Loren/Haino duo, but I'm not sure.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 6 April 2013 15:01 (thirteen years ago)

i'm going to that gig also... and the solo haino gig on the 17th at issue project room.
i try to see loren any time he plays in NYC, which has been fairly frequently the last few years. he's fantastic, and suzanne is great as well. they're both very nice and approachable people.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Saturday, 6 April 2013 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

I saw him place, once, in St. Louis about sixteen years ago with Darin Gray and a drummer, too, I think? I don't think he makes it to Missouri very often.

Trip Maker, Saturday, 6 April 2013 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't seen Loren since he backed Jandek (with Matt Heyner and Chris Corsano!) in 2005.

誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 6 April 2013 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

Haino, Loren and Matana sounds an incredible night whatever the combinations!

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Saturday, 6 April 2013 16:46 (thirteen years ago)

haven't seen loren since i saw him duet with jim o'rourke in 200something. weird gig, they were supporting hood

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Saturday, 6 April 2013 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

two months pass...

http://pitchfork.com/features/the-out-door/9150-the-legacy-of-loren-connors/

willem, Friday, 21 June 2013 09:18 (twelve years ago)

This feature is great, really enjoyed hearing people talk about Loren's playing.

grandavis, Friday, 21 June 2013 14:44 (twelve years ago)

Pleased to say that one of my photographs of Loren & Suzanne features there!

NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Friday, 21 June 2013 22:35 (twelve years ago)

five years pass...

getting into loren connors. i'm already pretty sure loren connors rules, although so far i've really only listened to 1987-89 with suzanne langille, moonlight with kath bloom, and hell's kitchen park.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:58 (seven years ago)

his discography is daunting in all the best ways

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)

I'm far from a completist but the As Roses Bow collection is glorious (Airs, part of it, was re-released on vinyl a couple of years back and is a thing of wonder). Red Mars is great, Moonyean, as mentioned above, and his live album with Jim O'Rourke, In Bern. They're all on Spotify as far as I can remember.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:12 (seven years ago)

thanks, i will put those at the top of my listen list!

for now i'm just kind of marveling at stuff like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1LC8CjzxdE

it sounds like the guitar version of something off of budd/eno's The Pearl

Karl Malone, Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:27 (seven years ago)

Co-signing "Red Mars", really really love it. Just something special about it to me, though I like basically all things Connors.

grandavis, Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:37 (seven years ago)

Portrait of a Soul is my go to Connors album

Duke, Friday, 20 July 2018 18:11 (seven years ago)

never clicked with this guy, guess I'll be spending some time on Spotify to reinvestigate - thanks for the tip

sleeve, Friday, 20 July 2018 18:29 (seven years ago)

I love Airs a lot

Evan, Friday, 20 July 2018 19:00 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

Connors is the perfect thing as the evenings draw in. God but Airs is such a perfect record. Recently discovered Lullaby which is also beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HetoayX5O_U

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:15 (five years ago)

Recently reissued by Alan Licht on his Bandcamp page:
https://alanlicht.bandcamp.com/album/in-france

call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Tuesday, 20 October 2020 21:49 (five years ago)

Saw him live last year, still absolutely wonderful. I’ve been working my way through the Jandek live DVDs and am always looking forward to the ones where he’s in the band

EvanP, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 01:27 (five years ago)

listened to "airs" last night, really really enjoyed it.

"the departing of a dream vol. vii" with daniel carter was one of my very favorite records of 2019, it's basically an homage to miles's "he loved him madly"

new LP coming in november via feeding tube:

https://feedingtuberecords.com/releases/unaccompanied-acoustic-guitar-improvisations-vol-1/

budo jeru, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 22:55 (five years ago)

There's a new Departing of a dream??

Must investigate

Duke, Wednesday, 21 October 2020 23:02 (five years ago)

Admission: I was honestly sure this guy had died. Finding out he's still alive has been a pleasant surprise.

logout option: disabled (Matt #2), Wednesday, 21 October 2020 23:08 (five years ago)


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