Givin' cookies: Gay sex in the hip hop world

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So what do you think? Self-loathing hypocrisy or healthy redrawing of the sexual landscape? Buggery as the ultimate expression of masculinity? Is it all even true?

The Guardian 25/8/01
Setting the record straight: Diamonds, furs, girly hair - rappers have never been camper, but they still think gay is a dirty word. Rising star Caushun's out to change all that. Precious Williams hangs with the homie-sexuals

You can't fuck no faggots . I will only do a man if he got a wife or girlfriend," sighs a tall, shaven-headed security guard who tells me to call him Dagger. "I like to fuck men for fun but I ain't gay and I ain't trying to love some damn man. I got a son. I don't want my family exposed to that kinda nasty shit."

Dagger's homies Mike and Shakeem (both aspiring rappers ) nod their cornrowed heads in agreement. I meet the trio at a gay hip-hop night in a Manhattan night club. The rap tunes are booming but there is not a flamboyant outfit or camp voice in the club. Not even a smiling face. Just throngs of mean-looking, tattooed homeboys dressed in nondescript baggy jeans, Timberland boots and Phat Farm and Sean John T-shirts. Yet, by Dagger's surly reckoning, at least 75% of these homeboys have sex with other men. "Just because you mess around with men you can't be acting like no female," growls Shakeem. "Messing around with sissies and faggots ["out" gay men] will get you a rock to the head or even killed where I come from."

This is the paradoxical world of America's "homie-sexuals" and "homo-thugs" in-the-closet gay homeboys who worship a subculture that shuns homosexuality. "I'm not a faggot - I just mess around with other brothers" is their mantra. Homie-sexuals usually have girlfriends or wives and claim to be both heterosexual and homophobic while giving straight-acting gay men "the cookies" (anal sex) on a regular basis.

For the homo-thugs, manhood - in its most macho sense - is crucial. They never primp or pose and prefer to look as though they have just been released from jail. Baggy jeans, big boots, baggy T-shirts, bandanas - and tarty girlfriends - are all parts of their "disguise". They would not dream of coming out and believe that all gay men should remain in the closet.

In the Bronx, where Dagger, Shakeem and Mike live, manhood (in its most macho sense) is a big deal. Thus this trio are proud to be politically incorrect. They don't believe in openly embracing their (homo) sexuality. Instead, they believe in going out en masse and "beating the shit out of" openly gay men or "sissies".

Ironically, established rappers are suddenly camping it up almost to the point of dressing in drag. Andre from the duo Outkast frequently appears at award shows wearing dresses and shoulder-length, straightened hair-dos. Ludacris, with his huge, lovingly primped afro, has more hair than the scantily clad women who dance in his videos. Snoop Dogg has taken to parading around on roller skates, sporting a silky girly hair-do he refers to as his "Shirley Temple" style.

And Puffy is not averse to dressing up in ankle-length fluffy white fur coats. In fact, the rapper -entrepreneur's latest designs for men for his fashion label, Sean John, include skintight fur tops and lots and lots of thigh-gripping white leather. According to Dagger, only a truly heterosexual rapper would have the audacity to "dress like such a faggot ".

"You gonna get found out if you started paradin' around in that kind of shit," adds Mike.

But a 23-year-old hairdresser-turned- rapper from Brooklyn thinks he can change all that. Over lunch at a cafe in downtown Brooklyn, Caushun tells me that he is one of the few gay rappers to have ventured out of the closet. "I am definitely not the only gay rapper in the industry," he croons. "Do you really mean to tell me that none of the others are gay? Sure there are some gay ones. I just haven't slept with any of them yet. And anyway, the only person I am interested in outing is me."

Caushun's rap career began a year ago when he cold-called New York rap radio station Hot 97, introduced himself as the Gay Rapper and began rapping about his unique experiences. A beauty-school graduate, by day Caushun continues to be the "weave king", a sought-after stylist, hair-extension and toupee specialist to stars including Jennifer Lopez and Sarah Michelle Gellar.

In his spare time, he has created the world's first-ever gay rap album, Proceed With Caushun. The album, due out in December, includes lyrics about Caushun's desire to play one of the love interests in a Snoop Dogg video and the hilarious Come Out, with its chorus of "come out the closet, why don't you babe?" crooned over a sample of a Blondie song.

Although Caushun claims that he is often categorised as a "homo-thug", there is nothing thuggish about his appearance today. His shoulder-length hair is neatly cornrowed and his huge hazel eyes are fringed with long curly dark lashes. A skin-tight white Fendi top clings to his lean, muscular torso and a shiny gold Gucci dog tag hangs around his neck.

So why on earth is Caushun attracted to a culture that prides itself on its intolerance of gay men? "I fit in because I can rhyme. I just wanna rhyme," sighs Caushun in his high, slightly whiny voice. "Hip-hop was an important part of my childhood." Caushun grew up in Bedford-Stuyvesant in Brooklyn, the gritty neighbourhood that inspired Spike Lee's Do The Right Thing and also produced Lil' Kim, Biggie Smalls and Puff Daddy.

"I've always been interested in Jay-Z, LL Cool J and Nas," Caushun purrs.

Interested in what respect? He giggles conspiratorially and then pouts.

"Nas is a pretty thug. And I like the way he rhymes. He is one of the most thorough MCs. And I'm gonna make rap videos with scantily-clad men dancing in 'em. I'm gonna exploit the pretty men!"

Meanwhile, Dagger and his homies stand around on the fringes of the dancefloor, drinking beer after beer and managing to look both tough and intimidated at the same time. Shakeem tells me to make it clear in my article that he is not "in the life" and that he is only "up in the club" tonight because he has had a stressful week and needs to "get down".

Shakeem, and other homo-thugs, are not talking about showing off the latest moves on the dancefloor when they talk of "getting down".

"It's about coming up in the club on the down-low and messing around wit' some guy," says Mike. "I'll let a sissie suck my dick but I don't want to talk to him or hang out with him," says Dagger to nobody in particular. "I just think gay people are punks," he adds with a faraway look in his eyes.

According to Caushun, many of the homo-thugs are simply insecure in their manhood and desperate to attempt to "prove" that they are not gay, even though they obviously are. The macho posturing and self-denial, are, says Caushun, a mix of survival and self-hatred.

"With me, it was like everyone in my neighbourhood knew I was always destined to be gay and they tolerated me. Because, girl, I am not gonna hide it. I am secure enough in my own masculinity to admit that I am attracted to men. I don't see why that is such a big deal. But I have fought my battles for sure.

"And, yes, you do have to be real," he sighs. "You can't really turn up to the Redman concert in skintight pedal pushers and pink open-toed Timberland boots. But I am keeping it real. Because real ain't frontin' like you are straight when you are gay."

Berry, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

There was a longer feature on this in 'Vibe' recently, anyone know how to link to it?

dave q, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

HOW to link it? Put its address between these tags:

(a href=URL OF LINK)some title(/a)

Replace all curved brackets with < and > ones.

Kodanshi, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

As for givin' cookies...

Kodanshi, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

D'oh! I meant:

As for givin' cookies...

Kodanshi, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Read your recorded cookie.

Kodanshi, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You know, at first that seemed creepy. Then it seemed like an Onion article. Then I realized: a lot of hip-hop has always had a pretty utilitarian approach to sexual partners, treating women largely as receptacles for temporary entertainment. So why shouldn't the same approach spill over to men? Why should gender matter if you have absolutely no intention of interacting with the other person in any non-sexual fashion?

Although what the above also sounds sort of like is: not-so- awesome "thug" types realize they can easily go pick up gay men. Not- so-awesome thug types start doing so, sort of internally laughing to themselves at how much easier it is than picking up women, who go for actually-cool thug types.

Nitsuh, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's unbelievable the lengths to which people will go to excuse and delude themselves. What's believable is how ignorant of their own psychologies and motivations the men interviewed in the article are. But one suspects even ancient Greek philosophers rationalized their behavior in much the same.

X. Y. Zedd, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Village Voice from about two months ago had the same or a similar article, but I think it was longer. I'll bet it's up on their website somewhere.

Kerry, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Actually Nitush, my reactions went the opposite - Mild fascination at the crypto-legitimization of 'trade' to disappointment at the level of homophobia this seems to be surfacing as well. Hopefully Caushun will kick them all to the kerb this xmas.

jason, Friday, 7 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, I'm ending up agreeing with you, Jason -- I was just surprised that I was so surprised by this development. It now seems like the logical (and reprehensible) next step from the dark side of certain hip-hop attitudes toward women.

Nitsuh, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The funny thing is that homo-hop or however you would like to simonreynolds-fy this music, gay hip hop is nothing new. I can think of Deepdickollective in San Fran who have been doing this stuff for a couple years.

I think the issue is that open homosexuality is leaving bourgie middle class black life, and being open in a street scene. Of course the attitude of "I fuck other men, but I am not gay" has always been very prevalent in the black commmunity. Homosexuality is definitely not tolerated in much of mainstream African-American culture.

I remember reading a study about young men in NYC that were in clinics for various reasons(non-hiv related) and the study found that black men who had been involved in sexual acts with men statistically claimed heterosexual status more often than men of other ethnicities. I think you could go into a long discussion about what the implications of this are in African American culture. This issue was discussed quite a bit when I was on the Afro-Futurist list awhile back.

Michael Taylor, Saturday, 8 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

bump

map, Saturday, 16 April 2016 03:47 (eight years ago) link


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