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1/ Are any of the original DC Go-Go bands still around?

2/ Was Go-Go a big enough genre to warrant a revival?

3/ Is it true that there was a Go-Go film made with Art Garfunkel?

4/ Anyone here ever witness a Go-Go live show?

peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 18:02 (twenty years ago) link

As far as I know Chuck Brown is still going, there was a tribute concert/movie/CD released last year with a bunch of go-go biggies like E.U. et al.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link

What does Art Garfunkle have to do with Go-Go????

pete from the street, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link

Art Garfunkel starred in the movie Good To Go, a murder mystery set in/around the DC go-go scene. It came out on video under another title, years after it was made, and promptly sank from sight. Fab Five Freddy was in it, too, and the soundtrack was pretty good—featured Chuck Brown, Trouble Funk, E.U. and a couple of other acts. I used to have it on vinyl, and it came with an order form for Trouble Funk T-shirts, which I really regret never ordering.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:02 (twenty years ago) link

1/ Yes, plenty, most esp. Chuck Brown (not a band, but you get the idea).

2/ It was huge in D.C. and still is, but only there, which was pretty much the problem the first time around.

3/ See Phil's post.

4/ Not me.

Lee G (Lee G), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:10 (twenty years ago) link

Lee, do you work at the DC City Paper?? Who else besides Chuck Brown still plays?
Anyone have a theory as to why it never caught on anywhere else?
I've heard amazing things about the live shows back in the day (er...probably more like "in the evening, night and morning")

peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

Silly me. Here I was thinking this was going to be about Jane Wiedlin, Charlotte Caffey and Gina Shock. Ah well.

Go-Go-wise, I have the Trouble Funk live album that was re-released on Infinite Zero, and it kicks a giant silver platter of booty!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 19:43 (twenty years ago) link

I've got some live Go-Go stuff (2 Trouble Funk live albums and a Chuck Brown live album), and I just imagine that to be at one of those shows must have been the pretty much THE 100% SOLID SHIT! I can't think of any other type of music that I've been that into yet never experience live.

peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

I, too, have the Trouble Funk live album, as well as the 2-CD compilation Droppin' Bombs that came out a year or two ago. Both are amazing.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

I saw Trouble Funk in London around 88/89 - truly phenomenal live show, one of my favourites - the sound was monstrous. Also I have just returned from DC and could I find any go-go? Unfortunately I could not, tho that's probably not knowing where to look.

Bill E (bill_e), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

This is turning into like an Alcoholics Anonymous meeting only for people who own that Trouble Funk 2CD. "Hi, my name is Nick, and I own the Trouble Funk double live album."

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:15 (twenty years ago) link

2/ Was Go-Go a big enough genre to warrant a revival?

It never was very big outside of Washington. However, there is a tenacious community that still supports it; see Take Me Out To The Go-Go for more information.

4/ Anyone here ever witness a Go-Go live show?

Not an all go-go bill, and not in a "historically black" venue, but Ms. Spice and the Malenium Band opened for the Dismemberment Plan's last show at the Black Cat.

j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:26 (twenty years ago) link

2) A revival per se--of the bands, the scene, etc.--seems kinda unnecessary, but I'd love to hear that beat make the rounds again.

4) I saw Trouble Funk in Toronto, back when big things were still being predicted for them (and for go-go). I guess this was in (God, I'm getting old oy my achin' back) '86 or thereabouts. A good show, especially if you love percusssion, but my interest waned somewhere around the 120 minute mark (but then I wasn't high or anything, I do remember that). Oh, and there were more black people on stage than there were in the crowd for what that's worth (probably not much, but it struck me as interesting at the time).

s woods, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

I have a copy of "Drop the Bomb." I bought it without knowing anything about go-go (well i still don't). i actually just came across the name back when i was really into the whole disco-punk stuff and wrote it down on my little list of things to get. i thought it was going to be like Liquid Liquid or 23 Skidoo.

there are a few regional dance scenes that i've heard about that i don't know anything about: Go-Go, Stepping, and i think Bounce (unless this is just southern hip hop?). I played ESG in my office (when i was working in chicago) right when that soul jazz comp came out and an older black lady started singing and dancing along calling it house music and stepping. i tried to ask her about stepping and she pretty much just talked about James Brown. does this have any correlation to the R.Kelly song "Stepping in the Name of Love" with all the cute older couples in white dancing super smooth?

JasonD (JasonD), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:40 (twenty years ago) link

Lee, do you work at the DC City Paper?

Nope, Baltimore, just up the road.

Who else besides Chuck Brown still plays?

I think some version of E.U. is still around, plus a whole lotta other relatively minor players who were never that big to begin with.

Anyone have a theory as to why it never caught on anywhere else?

Well, it's all about live bands playing great but fairly monotonous music for no-nonsense dancers/partiers all night, which pretty much guarantees subculture status at best. Plus, despite its cachet among white hipsters (myself included), there are issues of race and class to bridge, plus the usual endemic regionalism (see also Baltimore "club music," which can't seem to make it past city limits either). And I think the best go-go acts do well enough playing D.C. and the occasional gig elsewhere that they don't need or want to kill themselves to "make it" elsewhere.

Lee G (Lee G), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link

Too many "elsewhere"s, but you get the idea.

Lee G (Lee G), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

Wouldn't you have to say it also has something to do with the slightly reactionary character of the music? I mean, wasn't it birthed at a time when the more popular disco, with its faster tempos, was king? I love go-go, but the fact is that a lot of it is SLOW, it kind of just lopes along. Then when synthesizers and sequencers and 80s production values were ascendent, 70s holdovers like Cameo and George Clinton embraced the new technology, but a guy like Chuck Brown was perfectly content to keep playing in the style.

Jason I posted once about stepping, but yeah you've basically got it.

Broheems (diamond), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 21:13 (twenty years ago) link

I don't know about the idea of go-go being reactionary, the bigger issue in the long run I think was that it never became very song or vocal-based. It was focused almost entirely on the groove. The vocals generally (and it's been years since I've listened to the stuff, bear that in mind) consisted of differing variations of someone shouting out a few commands at the audience ("drop the bomb y'all"). It's like in early hip-hop break-downs where the narrative just dropped and the MCs would throw shout-outs to whoever ("east side, rock the house"). The go-go that I heard at the time never took it beyond that. I guess you could say some of the early house consisted of little more than a repeated vocal mantra too, but those were deeply emotional (and sung) hooks; there was still a little more for a listener (and not just a dancer) to grab onto.

s woods, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

Good points. And so, class, it seems one could boil it down to "it is what it is": slow, monotonous, groove-based music where the cowbell matters more than lyrics or melodies or any of the usual mass-appeal pop music devices.

Lee G (Lee G), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

When I was in high school, Go-Go entered a 'new school' with bands like Junkyard, Rare Essence, Backyard Band, and the Huck-a-Bucks. The sound is more rugged and harder, and Go-Go bands often sample popular hip-hop tracks (with the band's singer rapping/singing the lyrics). I remember the Luniz 'I Got 5' was a big hit for Backyard.

I've seen a bunch of Go-Go shows in school gyms, but I've never been to a Go-Go club. It's party music.

Some bands, particularly Rare Essence, have made studio recordings that are intended to sound more like a 3 minute single. They delve more into RnB. However, the Go-Go fanbase isn't really interested in studio recordings. Go-Go hits are always live versions with prolonged percussion workouts. That type of song is not going to get airplay outside of D.C.

So basically there is no need for a 'Go-Go revival' or expansion. Go-Go is still going strong in D.C.

Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:55 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that Go-Go is regularly on the radio in D.C.

Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 5 November 2003 22:59 (twenty years ago) link

Is it played on r&b/hip-hop stations there? If so, is it mixed in with those genres or is it segmented into its own weekly show or something?

It seems amazing that Go-Go seems to basically thrive (if not simply exist) in D.C. and D.C. alone.

s woods, Wednesday, 5 November 2003 23:31 (twenty years ago) link

I haven't lived in DC for a while, so I can't really say how things are now. In the mid-90s Go-Go songs were played by 'urban contemporary' stations. Songs would occasionally appear in normal programing (although day-time was typically RnB, while night-time was more hip-hop/Go-Go). One station had a half-hour Go-Go mix every night at about 9:30. Both of the major urban stations had a Go-Go mix on Friday or Saturday nights. For a time, there was an AM station that played only hip-hop and Go-Go, but that didn't last.

Go-Go really does thrive in D.C. It's just something that is passed along. Most people who grow up in D.C. like Go-Go, because they hear it from an early age. As I mentioned before, contemporary Go-Go incorporates the latest hip-hop into the songs, so it remains fresh. There was a hit by the Huck-a-Bucks that sampled a Budweiser commercial. Some songs become anthems.

The basic philosophy is that the beat is what really matters. Go-Go bands just look for something that will hook audiences and make a song a hit.

All that said, I don't listen to Go-Go anymore. I guess I outgrew it.

Debito (Debito), Thursday, 6 November 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

I never felt Go-Go was for listenin'.
Movin and groovin!

peepee (peepee), Thursday, 6 November 2003 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

I've got a bunch of this stuff, just because it's so odd. (Good to go-go comp, that movie soundtrack, couple of Trouble Funk lps) But must admit that I find the sound very thin and insubstantial and the style of the beats kind of irritating. There's something about the hyper-repetitive use of funk cliches that really grates, certainly on the Chuck Brown stuff. It always seemed better when the sound was more stripped down and rawer (and maybe more hip hop) like "Arcade Funk" and some of the live Trouble Funk stuff.

Is it just that studio recordings are inherently not conveying the spirit of go-go, or is it that Chuck Brown's success skewed the way the genre got portrayed on comps? Because what I've heard of go-go doesn't square with the picture painted in this thread...

Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 6 November 2003 03:48 (twenty years ago) link

"Because what I've heard of go-go doesn't square with the picture painted in this thread..."

A lot of the acts people keep mentioning (Chuck Brown, Trouble Funk) are about 20 years old. A lot of comps date back to the mid-80s, and that stuff sounds really dated. More contemporary Go-Go is definetely rawer and has more bass umph.

And yes, studio recordings really do not 'convey the spirit' of Go-Go.

However, if you don't like the beat, then you don't like Go-Go. The beat is what makes Go-Go, Go-Go.

Debito (Debito), Thursday, 6 November 2003 04:06 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks, Debito. Most enlightening.

Lee G (Lee G), Thursday, 6 November 2003 15:17 (twenty years ago) link

I saw Trouble Funk appallingly early (i.e. before noon) on the mainstage of a wet and miserable Glastonbury Festival in (IIRC) 1987 and they managed to bring me and my mates back from beyond the grave and get us up the front dancing and grinning like imbeciles.

I too have a live album of theirs (with a free 12"!) which kicks a positively gargantuan amount of butt. However I also bought a subsequent studio one (which was produced by Bootsy Collins IIRC) which was an almost equally monumental disappointment.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 6 November 2003 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Also see S&D: Go Go

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

caught this thread late, but thought i'd just share that i recently met someone who works for chuck brown's mangement company who said that 2002 was a great year for chuck. made some nice $ off the nelly/neptunes "hot in herre" interpolation.

pheNAM (pheNAM), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 15:34 (twenty years ago) link

what song did he interpolate?

JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

the music for "hot in herre" was based on chuck brown's biggest hit "bustin loose" which was a hit in late 70's or early 80's.

nelly even quotes a little of the lyric.

pheNAM (pheNAM), Thursday, 4 December 2003 21:35 (twenty years ago) link


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