(We should have one of these for the DJ Kicks series as well!)
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:12 (9 years ago) Permalink
the series itself seems middlebrow as hell and some of the other participants fill me with fear but the results justify on this evidence. (all i've heard.)
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:38 (9 years ago) Permalink
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:40 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:41 (9 years ago) Permalink
― mohammed abba (dubplatestyle), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:54 (9 years ago) Permalink
the Radioactive Man mix is excellent if you like tough, booming quasi-breaks electro. i agree with Matos on the John Peel mix.
my big surprise over the weekend was how much I enjoyed Fabric 6 - Tyler Stadius. like the promo says, it's a "hot, heavy trip, wrapped in percussion and drowned in echo". so it's very minimal, tribal deep house. most tracks are just an urgent two or three note bassline and congas, bongoes, shakers, kicks and snares under many layers of delay and reverb. what struck me most was how little seperates this style from DFA tracks like "dance to the underground" or their mix of "orange alert". really it's just a few elements: in the DFA tracks you get a chicken-scratchy guitar and in the Jay Tripwire tracks you have bleary deep house synth pads.
so yeah, the Tyler Stadius mix is surprising high-quality, even if the rhythm & sound outro feels tacked-on.
also James Lavelle's mix is excellent though I can't think of what to say about it other than Andy K's comments on allmusic are quite right.
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:54 (9 years ago) Permalink
― vahid (vahid), Monday, 27 October 2003 21:56 (9 years ago) Permalink
That said I really like alot of them so they have sort of duped me I suppose.
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 27 October 2003 22:07 (9 years ago) Permalink
i used to subscribe to them. got em super cheap. but i've given up. it was a luxury i can no longer aford.
the plumps mix is also mighty fine for your party breakbeat needs.
― gallantseagull, Monday, 27 October 2003 22:33 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Monday, 27 October 2003 23:16 (9 years ago) Permalink
The Bent one is surprisingly high quality but I wonder how much my initial appreciation for it was based on not having heard Annie's "The Greatest Hit" before.
I agree with Ronan in that I instinctively want to dislike these albums; like, I'm sure I'm going to adore the Michael Mayer mix but there's something vaguely disquieting about tying him into the Fabric brand.
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 27 October 2003 23:22 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 27 October 2003 23:26 (9 years ago) Permalink
Sorry, what's the problem with the Fabric brand? Is it too parasitic or something?
I guess there's the issue of it being a 'more discerning' take on dance-culture than say, Ministry of Sound; despite essentially functioning in an identical 'corporate' manner.
But then, there's the upside of it representing a mutation of the superclub that actually comes off as sort of relevant. Plus, it's great to see Michael Mayer gaining some much needed exposure. I'd actually like to hear more Microhouse in the 'mainstream'...
― Michael Dieter, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:57 (9 years ago) Permalink
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:06 (9 years ago) Permalink
Destroy: Doc Martin (horrible noodly deep house, badly mixed too), Slam (bog-standard tech-house, although it ends on a great note with UR's "Inspiration"), and especially The Amalgamation of Soundz, which is sleep-inducing even by the standards of chillout music.
― Angus Gordon (angusg), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:45 (9 years ago) Permalink
to what degree is a purchase an endorsement? that is the tough question from all of this because you can easily have a MoS cd next to a fabric one in you collection and enjoy both. i really give cultural material a real exemption from that "purchase as endorsement" idea because cultural material takes longer to understand than, say, and SUV ;-)
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 05:47 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 06:12 (9 years ago) Permalink
do you think other series' of mix cds suffer from the same aristocratic nature (ie dj kicks)? also, what is the alternate approach? if fabric is a sort of aristocracy of cool than i agree about your problem, but, for Socrates' sake, i wonder why aving a series of mix cds that represent only one genre would not imply any sort of elitism or favoritism? is it because fabric is parasitic as Michael said?
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 06:25 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 06:35 (9 years ago) Permalink
It's pretty good - not exactly big, epic stompin choons, but it has its moments. Oddly, it was really hard to find - most shops has every other number in the series except 03. I couldn't work out if that was because it was really popular or they didn't bother stocking it...
― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 09:53 (9 years ago) Permalink
(as an aside: has anybody heard the two anniversary mixes on classic? there's a one-disc mix by doc martin that looks ok and a two-disc mix by luke solomon and derrick carter that looks great but i wonder if it hasn't dated by now)
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 18:58 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 19:02 (9 years ago) Permalink
BUT - i have it on good authority from trusted friends that the mixing is good enough to (literally) make you weep.
so does anybody know?
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 19:04 (9 years ago) Permalink
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 19:12 (9 years ago) Permalink
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 19:33 (9 years ago) Permalink
only real duds i've heard are james lavelle and amalgamationz of sound...
― paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 21:00 (9 years ago) Permalink
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 22:56 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 04:33 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 05:56 (9 years ago) Permalink
is the mayer one already out, or coming out?
― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:11 (9 years ago) Permalink
i dont think i actually know who james lavelle is exactly? is he the eptiome of "proper" "beardy" tastemakers ?
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:15 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Dave M. (rotten03), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:22 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:25 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 06:27 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:12 (9 years ago) Permalink
― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 29 October 2003 12:13 (9 years ago) Permalink
― cybele (cybele), Sunday, 9 November 2003 20:39 (9 years ago) Permalink
IT'S BETTER THAN "IMMER"!!
― vahid (vahid), Friday, 18 June 2004 00:06 (8 years ago) Permalink
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 18 June 2004 10:04 (8 years ago) Permalink
― piscesboy, Friday, 18 June 2004 10:38 (8 years ago) Permalink
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 18 June 2004 10:59 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 18 June 2004 12:25 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Bojan Mandic (bojanm), Friday, 18 June 2004 14:55 (8 years ago) Permalink
Diplo's mixing is also occasionally a little weak. When he transitions from The Cure to Bombs Over Baghdad, the two songs are blatantly out of tune with each other and it's ugly.
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 16 January 2006 03:39 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 16 January 2006 04:05 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Monday, 13 February 2006 08:48 (7 years ago) Permalink
I agree with Abbadavid that the Diplo one does sound like it would be good out, but not necessarily something you want to listen to a lot. That's why it's good they're cheap now! Mixes should be more disposable.
(So er ... why this thread, but never mind)
― Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Monday, 13 February 2006 09:03 (7 years ago) Permalink
truth be told I prefer dj-kicks as a series though.
― weekly handle change (haitch), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:04 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 13 February 2006 14:23 (7 years ago) Permalink
Thread kind of inspired by the EDM poll nominations and the way they've been taking me deeper into 2000s house & techno than before (though it was a path I'd already started a little way down).
These are the only ones in the series I own so far -Fabriclive 54 - David Rodiganfabric 55 - ShackletonFabriclive 56 - Pearson Sound/Ramadanmanfabric 63 - Levon Vincent& I've also given quite a few listens to friends' copies of fabric 50 - Martyn and Fabriclive 57 - Jackmaster.
From these, the Shackleton one is an all-time fave and the Levon Vincent CD is something that I'm listening to over and over at the moment. The only one I'd maybe give a 'destroy' rating to is the Jackmaster, which is a shame because Jack usually is one of my favorite DJs (think this was discussed in another thread actually).Browsing through the list inside the Levon case, there's quite a lot of tasty-looking earlier entries, but I'm looking for some expert opinion before I decide what to go for next.(Apologies if this has already been covered - did a quick search and it seemed to be threads on individual CDs but not the whole series).
― Not The Other One (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 3 June 2012 13:09 (11 months ago) Permalink
Oops, seems there is a thread after all....Ah well, revive!
― Not The Other One (Mr Andy M), Sunday, 3 June 2012 13:10 (11 months ago) Permalink
Just listened to the Shackleton one for the first time yesterday! Exceptional quality, that one...
― Hennesy Williams (EDB), Sunday, 3 June 2012 13:13 (11 months ago) Permalink
ah levon you're fucking spoiling us
shy fx & b traits - sorry, you fail
― the late great, Thursday, 21 June 2012 06:29 (11 months ago) Permalink
struggling to get into pinch
still enjoying four tet
oneman looks exciting, hopefully doesn't fuck it up
sorry kasra i skipped you because i saw too many clinical drum and bass names like "phizix", "hybris", "halogenix", "resources", "soundwaves", etc
would like to hear opinions on brodinski and drop the lime
― the late great, Thursday, 21 June 2012 06:59 (11 months ago) Permalink
Actually meant to bump this thread myself. Since these are dirt cheap all over london I've been meaning to stock up.
I guess right now I have:
JackmasterShackletonVillalobosOmar-smichael mayer has been orderedjames murphy/pat mahoney
While I intend to get the Four Tet at some point, I'm also debating akufen, ame, pearson sound and others I've seen used.
― Hennesy Williams (EDB), Thursday, 21 June 2012 08:37 (11 months ago) Permalink
Ame's quite good, not a life changer. Listened to the Ellen Allien one again recently and that's held up surprisingly well.
Jacques Lu Cont's Fabriclive is ALL TIME imo.
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 21 June 2012 08:47 (11 months ago) Permalink
but yeah, also get:
Ewan PearsonTyrantRadio SlaveMetro AreaSwayzak
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 21 June 2012 08:48 (11 months ago) Permalink
yeah, also curious about the early ones, which I've sort of not thought about. Craig Richards, for example? I would look out for Ewan, radio slave, and metro area (not to mention Martyn, Surgeon, Optimo, and Carl Craig), but preference is typically going to those I find for alarmingly cheap prices.
― Hennesy Williams (EDB), Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:05 (11 months ago) Permalink
Been meaning to get the Metro Area one for ages, just ordered it from Amazon for £1 + p&p. Agree with Dwight that the Ellen Allien and Ewan Pearson ones are great.
― Gavin, Leeds, Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:44 (11 months ago) Permalink
Metro Area is great fun. My faves are Mayer, Optimo, Villalobos, Murphy/ Mahoney, Omar-S.
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:48 (11 months ago) Permalink
Looking forward to the Oneman mix. Tracklisting looks good (I do miss his epic dubstep / garage blends of yore however)
― millmeister, Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:49 (11 months ago) Permalink
if you like deep house, the doc martin one is great
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:53 (11 months ago) Permalink
The Ewan Pearson Fabric mix is really drab compared to his Sci.Fi.Hi.Fi mix and pretty much ever other mix I've heard by him.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 21 June 2012 09:57 (11 months ago) Permalink
What's the mixing on the Doc Martin like? Practically every mix I've heard of his has been full of clangers.
― millmeister, Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
o really? the mixings p good on the fabric i think
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:02 (11 months ago) Permalink
that Drop The Lime one is p naff, although not as bad as his actual productions these days
it has 'Rock Around The Clock' slapped in its middle and feels v forced in general
iirc Craig Richards' one was way more interesting than my idea of him as a DJ at least
― jacob von logflume (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:17 (11 months ago) Permalink
I've never heard Craig Richards play anything other than clumpy tech-house and I'm kind of amazed anyone would actually think to check out his own mix.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:24 (11 months ago) Permalink
The Doc Martin one is really nicely mixed IMO.
― Tim F, Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:37 (11 months ago) Permalink
xpost: yeah, that was my attitude too, but I was just looking at the resident Advisor top mixes of the 00s poll and was kind of surprised to find that at like, 11 or so.
― Hennesy Williams (EDB), Thursday, 21 June 2012 10:54 (11 months ago) Permalink
Re: Craig Richards. While he does play his fair bit if clumpy tech-house (lol, love that term). He does play a lot of other styles too and can pull out some great gems, it's pretty common for him to also play electro, italo or classic deep house. For example he put $tinkworx on his last mix, and I've heard him play things like love'n'music in Room 1. Now, if only he could learn to play these with interesting, dramatic mixes rather than smooth, souless blends - that is perhaps his most 'tech-house' trait.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 21 June 2012 11:07 (11 months ago) Permalink
Basically when I've been in Fabric and heard Craig Richards I've mainly been glad it's not Terry Francis playing the same record for 3 hours. ;)
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 21 June 2012 11:22 (11 months ago) Permalink
I obviously love a bit of the old clumpy tech house, just looked for a recent mix and I'm currently rushing my tits of, in a manner of speaking, to this: http://soundcloud.com/r_co/craig-richards-kiss-presents
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 21 June 2012 12:19 (11 months ago) Permalink
levon's is probably the best one ever
― the late great, Thursday, 21 June 2012 16:00 (11 months ago) Permalink
i found agoria's in the trunk of my car today, i think i threw it in there to sell it because i wasn't really feeling it when it came out ... but damn if isn't actually really, really good!
― the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 01:25 (9 months ago) Permalink
It's not light goth microhouse like you are loathe to listen to? :)I don't know that I've listened to the Agoria fabric mix, but I enjoyed his At the Controls mix, although it was more of a 2 CD thematic affair.
I don't think, beyond a few token releases I've picked up, that I've really followed the fabric mixes in the last few years. I thought the Pinch one was very accessible, though, and the Surgeon one was good although fairly by the numbers and didn't deviate into the noisier/darker reaches he goes for.
― your native bacon (mh), Monday, 13 August 2012 13:59 (9 months ago) Permalink
I picked up a whole load of these at HMV Replay the other day - £2 each. So far I have Optimo, Sneak, Derrick Carter and Surgeon. Haven't had a chance to scratch the surface on them all though - which should I start with?
― sorry for asshole (dog latin), Monday, 13 August 2012 14:43 (9 months ago) Permalink
The Optimo one of those is the only one I know, but it's excellent.
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Monday, 13 August 2012 14:57 (9 months ago) Permalink
yeah i gave that one a quick blitz on friday night before going out. it seemed to take a while to get going, but it was really well put together and mixed.
― sorry for asshole (dog latin), Monday, 13 August 2012 14:58 (9 months ago) Permalink
The Optimo and Surgeon are both really good. You'll probably find Carter and Sneak fairly interchangable - doing the high energy Chicago house thing they've always done. I find it a bit relentlessly and strangely joyless these days.
― paulhw, Monday, 13 August 2012 15:39 (9 months ago) Permalink
the agoria one is not gothy at all, it's kind of a jazzy detroit techno meets continental maximal house thing
― the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 16:28 (9 months ago) Permalink
DOG LATIN
i've bought more or less every fabric / fabric live mix, here are the ones i've kept
jams murphy, surgeon, optimo, rub n tug, levon vincent, luke slater, jay haze, bent, deadly avenger, death in vegas, swayzak, autonomic, spank rock, martyn, toddla t, metro area, john tejada, pearson sound, jackmaster, four tet, pinch, shackleton, ame, omar s, aim, dj spinbad, tyler stadius, jacques lu cont, carl craig, global communication, james lavelle, filthy dukes
― the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 16:31 (9 months ago) Permalink
oh and claude von stroke
i'm very excited for ONEMAN
― the late great, Monday, 13 August 2012 16:35 (9 months ago) Permalink
that's already out and it's not very good
― Number None, Monday, 13 August 2012 16:43 (9 months ago) Permalink
Still going through the blitz of fabric CDs I picked up a month or so ago. Actually, I'm listening to the radio slave one for the first time as I write. 5.5 tracks in it's pretty lifeless and dull in the same way pretty much all of RS' productions are, but that's perfect because I need music like this to write essays too, so it's serving well. I could also see this serving exceptionally well as inoffensive, dinner party background music.
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:20 (9 months ago) Permalink
I think I have the Ivan Smagghe one in the car
― your native bacon (mh), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:30 (9 months ago) Permalink
So I guess here's my (seemingly quite favourable) breakdown of what I have
Michael Mayer: ALL TIME CLASSIC, PERRRRRRRRRFECT!Ricardo Villalobos: Exceptionally solidMetro Area: Also very good. Very 'fun'Omar-S.: Also very good.Radio Slave: see aboveOptimo: Still need to listen to itJames Murphy and Pat Mahoney: One of the most fun mixes I've heard. Luvv this. Shackleton: Really amazing.Pearson Sound: Very good, perhaps plays it too safe to be exceptional.Jackmaster: Pretty good, I guess, but nothing all that special, really.Four Tet: Great, loads of 'character'
Still would like, but the fact I haven't pounced on them might be telling:Martyn, Surgeon, Instramental + D Bridge,
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Monday, 13 August 2012 17:31 (9 months ago) Permalink
Wow, that radioslave mix actually really sucked. The fact that it just ham-fistedly faded out at the end, without any attempt to bring things down first or find closure is just injury + insult.
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Monday, 13 August 2012 18:15 (9 months ago) Permalink
MARTYN is amazingly dope
i was so disappointed with radio slave! it's just shit boring tribal house. he could've just mixed the best 15-20 rekids tracks and been done with it! but i also note that his own dj mixes and the mixes he's made to promote rekids are in general quite underwhelming
another one i forgot that i would heartily recommend to dog latin would be the new digital soundboy soundsystem one
― the late great, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:26 (9 months ago) Permalink
in particular i think DL would really enjoy that one
i do like the michael mayer one but i have no idea what happened to my copy! i have a bunch of random fabric mixes in storage that *aren't* on that list, maybe i'll dig some of them out ...
― the late great, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 02:27 (9 months ago) Permalink
cheers - will def check some of those out, particularly DSB.
Listened to Sneak followed by Carter back to back while doing some weed clearance in the garden yesterday. Both were okay - the Sneak one maybe less interesting / more functional than Derrick Carter's mix, but I'm not sure either are 'my style of music'. Still, I guess a lot of these comps work as primers and insights into a particular style, and that's cool.
One of my alltime favourite Fabric ones goes back to its early days - the Radioactiveman mix is a lot of fun. Other than that I've got a handful - Global Communications, Swayzak, Michael Meyer etc... My one complaint with a lot of these is that they often play it very strait and safe - think this may be down to the "I am serious DJ, this big serious Fabric mix" factor. That said they don't all lack humour (Metro Area for example).
― sorry for asshole (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 09:42 (9 months ago) Permalink
The Villalobos one is really good, and a good place to listen to a large chunk of his stuff, similar in that respect to the Omar-S one. Mayer is all time. I have a soft spot for the Glimmers one too, but then I like every mix of theirs I've heard.
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 10:01 (9 months ago) Permalink
I like the Carter one.
My one complaint with a lot of these is that they often play it very strait and safe - think this may be down to the "I am serious DJ, this big serious Fabric mix" factor.
The Ewan Pearson and Ame mixes both struck me as examples of this dynamic.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 10:22 (9 months ago) Permalink
That reminds me, I forgot to include my summary of:
Ewan Pearson: good-ish. A little too 2007 minimal house. Too clean, and yes, too by the book. Sounds more like a theoretical ideal of a well made mix than something I`d return to over and over.
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 11:45 (9 months ago) Permalink
Pearson's Sci.Fi.Hi.Fi mix from 2005 is fantastic though. Played it in the car this weekend and the last 40 minutes are such a huge rush
― willem, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 12:31 (9 months ago) Permalink
Aw man, 'Broken Dream' by Da Fresh! That Summetime Cowboy remix! YESSS!
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 12:52 (9 months ago) Permalink
Yes part of the problem his Fabric mix had was coming off the back of that one.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 13:10 (9 months ago) Permalink
Oh man, this Surgeon mix is just wonderful!
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Monday, 27 August 2012 19:36 (8 months ago) Permalink
zip!
― suare, Thursday, 4 October 2012 11:21 (7 months ago) Permalink
yes!
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Friday, 5 October 2012 00:37 (7 months ago) Permalink