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read this.

― ethan, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

day-um. quite a thing to go to bed to.

― jess, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yup -- there was another post on ILE about it. Initially I figured net-rumor or something, but nope. I only knew her work from singles, but she sure had something.

As I said on the thread over there -- my one fervent wish, beyond sympathy for all the bereaved, is that there be no horribly maudlin tribute records. "I'll Be Missing You" or "Candle in The Wind '97" were more than enough.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Couldn't believe my eyes. She was a great singer. I'll really miss her.

― Omar, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I really can't believe this, it just doesn't seem to connect in my mind. A terrible loss.

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Ned - at least both those records were quite possibly heartfelt, and the money must have gone to charity (and, unfortunately, relaunching the career of elton john). Granted, they were crap, but at least people meant what they were saying. I'd be more scared of what the NME will make out of this anyway, judging by this statement on nme.com: 'Aaliyah has been killed in a plane crash in the Bahamas. The R&B star, who recently appeared on the cover of NME.' So self- serving, utterly tasteless and showing so little respect I don't know where to begin.

― Bill, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Well, at least the NME has something on her. That's more than can be said for the website of her hometown newspaper. (I'm too tired right now to grab the actual paper off the porch.)

Of what relevance is the latter part of this sentence:

"Eight people, two women and six men, died in the crash, all of them Americans."

I'm all for having less Americans on the planet, but not under this circumstance. Are the English supposed to release a collective "whew" upon reading that part?

― Andy, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. I read about it on Relapse's message Board. Some people there didn't seem overly sympathetic, but I feel saddened when anyone I know of dies. And what a way to go...

― Kodanshi, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i was watching the news last night and they had breaking news about a plane crash in the bahamas. "a camera crew," they said, and i thought little of it -- of course one hates to see people die senselessly, but it's what they expect when watching the news: anonymous tragedy.

so i wake up, see this subject and: my God. this is far too shocking, it really hasn't registered at all. a terrible loss, to be sure, one i can't fully measure at this juncture.

― fred solinger, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

The most awful of ironies: I was listening to "I Care 4 U" when I read the news on NYLPM. Aaliyah is the first artist I really liked who has died suddenly, and it's going to make playing Aaliyah (or anything else in her fine ouvre) terribly poignant. An absolute loss.

― Tim, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wake up hungover. Go to work. Log on. Go to NYLP. Read the news today oh boy. Dust myself up. I'm going the fuck home. Have a nice day, ILMers. I know you're thinking the same as me.

― Simon, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

call me cold and heartless but celebrity deaths don't impact me, i can't imagine how my life will be perceptibly altered. sure it is a sad thing for her and her family but i can't really believe someone had to go home from work after hearing the news. i guess i am just cynical. if she were not attractive i suppose there would not be much of a fuss. the pop culture obsession with celebrities is truly not very healthy.

― keith, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Not just Aaliyah, maaaan - Scott Gallin, 41; Keith Wallace, 49, of Los Angeles; Douglas Kratz, 28, a representative for Virgin Records, and makeup artist Eric Foreman, 29, both of Hollywood, Calif.; Gina Smith, 29, of New Jersey; and Christopher Maldonado, 32, of New York; Anthony Dodd, 34, of Los Angeles all died in that plane crash too. I think THEIR families will also grieve while people talk about one singer...

― Kodanshi, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

You know, I was absolutely mind blown when I read this. I'm hardly Aaliyah's biggest fan, as everyone knows, though I like Try Again and We Need a Resolution, but I don't know...it's just that after the fucking high weekend I had, I come online and read about two deaths, one famous, one not, and about breakups. I feel like shit to be so goddamned happy right now. It's giving me a migrane.

She seemed like a good person to me, I liked her well enough, I'm sorry for her family and the families of her crew.

― Ally, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I always feel odd about celeb deaths, the only pop star who's ever died I was a big fan of was Kurt Cobain (yes, I was a 14 year old Nirvana fan)...I dunno, it's like the mysterious shroud of fame has been lifted and the horrible truth is revealed: stars are mortal too. Fame and fortune can't protect you from random badness. Though this is obvious, I always feel funny when reminded.

― DG, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

It's hard for me to truly feel bad about celebrity death because they aren't people I know. It's just that in some cases it's weird and upsetting - Aaliyah is just slightly older than me, and that's what's bothering me about it right now. You don't think of random things like this, you figure you've got years and years unless you do something stupid like overdose on drugs or drunk drive or something similar - you don't truly think you can go whenever, then you see something like this (and it does take celebrity death to do it, because I honestly don't read newspapers anymore and I don't have time to watch the news on tv on a regular basis), and it just shocks you.

Like I said, she seemed like a solid, nice, mostly clean-cut girl. As for the thing about her plane - it happens, the dynamics of planes are so random at times, they could've thrown in a handful of souvenirs from the island and that could've been the straw, if it was indeed overloading that did in the plane. It's not necessarily a diva- syndrome where her PAs were tossing things against the will of the airport, they could've just not known or figured they weren't adding a lot of stuff so it'd be fine.

― Ally, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Well, I only said it was a possibility [on ILE, that was].

― DG, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

No, I know, that's why I was explaining it from how I saw it, whilst forgetting entirely which board you posted it on ;)

― Ally, Sunday, 26 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Still sad though...what's sadder is that I'll probably get her album this week, now she's had that bit of free advertising.

― DG, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Argh, don't get me started on that - I was going to buy her album. I really liked We Need a Resolution and was waiting to hear a few more tunes from it before I decided, because I'm not a huge Aaliyah fan in the past and I hate getting burnt on albums where I only like one thing. So I finally heard some more of the songs over the past week, downloading and all. And I decided I'd buy the album when I got paid this week. Now I refuse to do it because I don't want to be one of those people who buy albums because someone's dead. I don't want the stupid snotty punka cashiers at Tower thinking I'm doing that. Grr.

― Ally, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Order it online. It'll be cheaper, too. And will be rec'd in 3 to 5 business days.

And, speaking as someone that ain't exactly Mr. R&B, her newest album is a damn fine album indeed. I, too, am avoiding purchasing said album for the time being, because I don't want the impetus behind me buying her record to be her death.

― David Raposa, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

What's the big deal? She ain't exactly Lauryn Hill or Aretha....

― tony, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Thank god she's not Lauryn Hill, Lauryn Hill sucks.

― Ally, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

not as much as the no-talent, over produced, alliyah. this cult of death is stupuid. she is going to have eighteen b-sides album this year. just you wait and see. gawd.

― tony, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I don't care who sucks more, Lauryn Hill still sucks.

― Ally, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Aaliyah had that most fragile of Pop Star qualities: elegance.

― Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

oh do fuck off! elegance! she was a bloody pre-fabricated diva!

hahahaha!!!! people die everyday, she was just one of them.

― tony, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Ah, a man of charity and vision, that's you. Do you visit road accidents so you can jerk off over the mangled steel? Sheesh.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

She was no SRV.

"No more to build on there. And they, since they Were not the one dead, turned to their affairs." - R. Frost

― zacko, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

oh please.

more cult of the dead. if your neighbour died would you know or care to post this on the internet?

fact remains. you don't know her. i don't know her. i don't think she has the talent of the stars now that she is dead. just being honest, no flaky poetry for me.

― tony, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

You don't have to think she has the talent of the stars at all regardless of death or life, and I didn't know her either, big surprise. I am not paralyzed with grief -- considering a board regular here and on ILE just lost his wife to incurable illness, my feelings are much more thoroughly committed elsewhere on that regard. But it seems all you can do prove how badass and 'real' you are and all, offering up cliches about celebrity cults and the like -- in which, why bother posting to the thread if you have nothing more to offer that than tawdry obviousness?

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

if the strokes died i would be shattered. everything is a cliche if you look at it close enough.

― tony, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

The question is, why the hell did you care so much to jump in and say, basically, "Fuck it, she's dead, she sucked anyhow, let's start the party up". I mean, whatever, yo, if it works for you but doncha think it's a teensy bit childish and trollish?

― Ally, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

It would be trollish if he posted it on an Aaliyah bulletin board... so far he's just adding to the discussion.

I've never even heard of Aaliyah, and that's not a troll.

― Sean, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

You saying "I wasn't familiar with her" does not equal trolling. Someone coming in and saying "Who cares? It's not like I liked her" is just obnoxious.

Quite frankly, I didn't particularly care for most of her music. I didn't feel the need to make it a salient point and come marching into the thread telling people to get off it, though.

― Ally, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Hey, I wasn't going to buy the album cos she died, it is now just a bit more prominent in my mind, 'tony'. Your posting style is awfully familiar.

― DG, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Aaliyah's death is a tragedy for music, because she was at the vanguard of pop and r&b, pulling the mainstream towards newer and more exciting styles and sounds. Her last album is a beautiful record and although I can understand anyone feeling squamish about buying it shortly after her death I don't think that's good enough reason to postpone hearing it. I was shocked by the news, not because Aaliyah was pretty or famous, but because her music means something to me. I wish it had been one of the thousands of pop musicians I couldn't care less about, not Aaliyah.

― JoB, Monday, 27 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

True Job, so very true.

― Omar, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

What's the dealio with her dying? She is so old skool! Respect.

― p. diggy, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Im not one for getting worked up about celebrity deathes. I have enough people dieing around me that I do have to deal with (like most people do I assume).

SRV was the last one to get me worked up when I was younger. I guess it was inflamatory saying whose death meant more to me rather then saying I just dont care. Its all kinda morbid, like trying to decide who died cooler, JC or JFK.

― zacko, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

...

― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 17:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

In retrospect, it's striking (or saddening, depending on your views) how quickly she has been replaced by Ashanti.

― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 18:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

still think she was amazing... her and lisa left eye lopes were two of the most charismatic women in r&B and both sadly missed

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 21 May 2003 18:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Four years now...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

"if the strokes died i would be shattered"

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 August 2005 22:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

tony's a real dick!

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 25 August 2005 23:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

Tony is I assume long gone.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 August 2005 23:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

NEVER FORGET

― Adam Rice Lacucaracha (nordicskilla), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

― amateurist0, Saturday, 4 March 2006 23:52 (7 years ago) Permalink

I can honestly say that no female r&b singer has touched my life the same way since. I think she had a unique way of riding a beat, fitting her words in. I think she was important. And I think r&b would have been more interesting if she'd been making records in the last few years.

I remember seeing "Try again" on a hotel tv in Las Vegas back to back with D'angelo's "untitled" and thinking: r&b is going to be something to watch for the next few years. And it was true--for a while.

― jules deferens, Sunday, 5 March 2006 12:46 (7 years ago) Permalink

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in all honesty, as despicable is the thought of that would be, i might actually be ok with the idea of this if it means new aaliyah stuff. i wonder if she had any wishes wrt what she would want released if she died, or whether she even had control over that. given the nature of her death the former doesn't seem likely

― k3vin k., Monday, 6 August 2012 01:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah i definitely doubt someone that young dying that suddenly has any kind of documents stating what should be done w/ their uncompleted demos if they suddenly become valuable in the event of their death. but again SOMEBODY in her family and/or her label must have final say over these things. timbaland said he hasn't been contacted about the project but that it shouldn't be done w/o him and missy involved (which is obv true).

― Diary of a Whiney Kid: Dog Days (some dude), Monday, 6 August 2012 02:11 (9 months ago) Permalink

― bnw, Monday, 6 August 2012 02:18 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah you want to say leave it to those two which seems like the right-est thing to do but then again, what have those guys done in the last 5 years that would make you think it'd be any good. aaliyah's music is timeless and singular but also benefitted from some of gthe greatest ever (r kelly, missy, timbo) being on the tops of their games at roughly the same time. if the full tracks are just sitting there that's one thing but if not, who knows if her leftover material will get the complementary help it deserves?

― k3vin k., Monday, 6 August 2012 02:21 (9 months ago) Permalink

amazing gif btw good work

― k3vin k., Monday, 6 August 2012 02:22 (9 months ago) Permalink

someone said this on twitter but i'm curious as to what these vocals are from. why can't we hear the original iteration of whatever this song is

― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 August 2012 03:36 (9 months ago) Permalink

this sounds like it could've been okay but drake's verse is awful. i mean, it wouldn't be awful on a normal drake song but it feels completely out of place here

― tauheed & cambria (J0rdan S.), Monday, 6 August 2012 03:47 (9 months ago) Permalink

afaict nothing has been confirmed by her label/estate/etc. so who knows if anything's going to happen beyond this one song

― Diary of a Whiney Kid: Dog Days (some dude), Sunday, August 5, 2012 6:52 PM Bookmark

The source of the track is Blackground's soundcloud page.

― REV LION (The Reverend), Monday, 6 August 2012 04:10 (9 months ago) Permalink

drake: f u f u f u f u f u

― lex pretend, Monday, 6 August 2012 09:34 (9 months ago) Permalink

― Diary of a Whiney Kid: Dog Days (some dude), Monday, 6 August 2012 10:44 (9 months ago) Permalink

http://jawnita.tumblr.com/post/28818674747/this-is-aaliyah-with-her-mother-and-best-friend

PREACH

― lex pretend, Monday, 6 August 2012 12:05 (9 months ago) Permalink

"swervin with Balotelli"

christ

― Number None, Monday, 6 August 2012 12:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

why can't we hear the original iteration of whatever this song is

Because it is probably better than this garbage.

Treach & Slick Rick
& Drake

― Andy K, Monday, 6 August 2012 13:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

"What's up?"

My thoughts exactly.

― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 6 August 2012 14:06 (9 months ago) Permalink

fuck drake.. this is offensive IMO

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 07:21 (9 months ago) Permalink

https://twitter.com/AaliyahsGhost

― Andy K, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 12:16 (9 months ago) Permalink

YASSSSS

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 12:24 (9 months ago) Permalink

ahahahahahaha

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:02 (9 months ago) Permalink

this is pretty fucked up

― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/08/aaliyah_enough_said_drake.php

― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:17 (9 months ago) Permalink

Went from my nigga serving it by the tele
To venues in Manchester just swerving with Balotelli
The fuck are you trying to tell me?
Bothers me when you got to play therapist
That shit’s embarrassin’
They even bring up these niggas make the comparison
They just got to forgive me, this watch is a 150
Still ain’t got the time for a bitch to be acting iffy
Running through the city with niggas I’d give a kidney
Selling under 150 you niggas gotta be kidding
Is this even still a discussion?
Don’t you ever wake up disgusted?
Every million I gain an enemy or a cousin
And people’s feelings have changed ever since I became somethin’
Girls that becoming ladies
And my friends are having babies
And babies are dropping dead in my city
This shit is crazy
And I don’t know if speaking on it helps
This the shit that’s on my mind I just keep it to myself
You know

― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

this is making me nauseous

― reductio ad burzum (flopson), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 17:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

is the SIDS rate really high in Toronto or something

― some dude, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:03 (9 months ago) Permalink

This the shit that’s on my mind I just keep it to myself

apparently you don't!

― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 7 August 2012 18:13 (9 months ago) Permalink

Mario Balotelli Voice

― Andy K, Tuesday, 7 August 2012 19:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

http://youtu.be/CgMqkdCg-F8

― niels, Thursday, 9 August 2012 10:17 (9 months ago) Permalink

Ergh, the WORST.

― MikoMcha, Thursday, 9 August 2012 12:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

― Turangalila, Saturday, 11 August 2012 02:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

oh lord

― REV LION (The Reverend), Saturday, 11 August 2012 18:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/71175986.html

aaliyah's brother favourited a fan letter criticising drake's involvement in all of this <3

― lex pretend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 09:36 (9 months ago) Permalink

11 years ago today

― mellow, groovy, chilled out, cool (k3vin k.), Sunday, 26 August 2012 03:17 (8 months ago) Permalink

wait wasn't it just ten years ago today like a few weeks ago????

― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 26 August 2012 03:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

I posted this in another thread and nobody cared but

― The Reverend, Sunday, 26 August 2012 03:56 (8 months ago) Permalink

― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Sunday, 26 August 2012 04:01 (8 months ago) Permalink

― mellow, groovy, chilled out, cool (k3vin k.), Sunday, 26 August 2012 04:02 (8 months ago) Permalink

eminem was the one who broke the news of aaliyah's passing to me. well he announced it during his set at the reading festival and asked for a moment of silence, the majority of the crowd didn't co-operate. He wasn't impressed.

― pandemic, Sunday, 26 August 2012 11:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

I posted this in another thread and nobody cared but

ha no it knocked me out & made me think about sampling & beatjacking a lot - what's really interesting is when it gets to a chord change & goes in a different direction that timbaland's version didn't, & was better for. weird to hear.

― very sexual album (schlump), Sunday, 26 August 2012 11:26 (8 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

this is incredible http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1693774/dmx-drake-aaliyah-collaboration.jhtml?xrs=share_twitter

― J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

:-D

― flopson, Friday, 14 September 2012 00:05 (8 months ago) Permalink

DMX sums up my feelings on Drake perfectly:

I don’t like anything about Drake. I don’t like his voice. I don’t like what he talks about. I don’t like his face. I don’t like the way he walks. Let me shut up. Imma stop right there.

― controversial cabaret roommate (Nicole), Friday, 14 September 2012 01:53 (8 months ago) Permalink

omg dmx i hadn't seen that ilu ilu ilu yesssss

and also bless missy and tim for protecting babygirl's legacy:

Last night, Missy Elliott and Timbaland dropped off two, long-teased new singles at New York’s Hot 97. While there, they spoke with Angie Martinez, adding a new chapter to the winding, sad tale of the rumored new Aaliyah album. “I don’t even know if it’s an album,” Timbaland said. “I don’t think that’s in the works. I don’t know, I think it’s blown out of proportion. I haven’t spoken to Drake yet.” Missy says she hasn’t been contacted either, adding, “No call has been made to me… We’re talking about unfinished music. And we don’t know her reasoning for not putting those records out. Maybe she didn’t feel like they were her best work. We just don’t want to tap into that, just spiritually something else you know… very, very touchy. Unless her parents came in and conducted that.” Timbaland also called Drake’s Aaliyah portrait tattoo into question, saying, “To me, the tattoo part, did that man come in here and show y’all? Like lift up his shirt?”

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 15:02 (8 months ago) Permalink

nice that tim is giving drake shade despite the two of them having worked together

― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 15:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

is this drake thing the reason everyone aside from the usuals have been making it a point to assert that they love aaliyah lately? like it's reached semi-obnoxious mbv-revival levels

― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 16:00 (8 months ago) Permalink

It's worse. It's not like most MBV newcomers/revivalists thought derisively of -- or ignored -- every other guitar-oriented band that was around during/after Loveless.

― Andy K, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 16:13 (8 months ago) Permalink

i haven't noticed this... who are some of the non-usuals who started loving aaliyah 4 weeks ago?

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 17:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

all the quotes from the dude in yeasayer are a pretty good example

― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 17:06 (8 months ago) Permalink

i wasn't even thinking famous types just random whoevers tweeting and whatnot but i guess the famous types apply too

― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 18 September 2012 17:17 (8 months ago) Permalink

right, i think the idea is that that guy is representative of a certain group (altho prob a bit douchier)

― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 17:22 (8 months ago) Permalink

haha, I'm kind of trying to tone down my "usual"-ness for ~personal~ reasons. red album desktop wallpaper: gone.

― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

keep in mind tho, that the anniversary of her death was a couple weeks ago, so that might have some to do with the love-in.

― tuomas without a nose ring (The Reverend), Tuesday, 18 September 2012 18:47 (8 months ago) Permalink

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