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Are they really Christian? They seem satanic

― Mike Hanle y, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I think people get confused by their sub-Nick Cave schtick, i.e. hell- fire and damnation xtianity. The lead singer *is* however, the son of a jesuit minister, so who knows whats goin on in his noggin.

― jess, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Why do you say that? Because they use hurdy-gurdy?

― Kodanshi, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I figure if you're the son of a Jesuit, you've got plenty of other issues to deal with -- like what the hell you're doing existing in the first place. ;-) I gathered wossname was indeed the son of a preacher man, but one of more Protestant inclinations...

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Not a jesuit, a pentacostal. I do not think they are even close to Nick Cave. I have heard conflicting reports but it doesnt matter because they but the fear of G-d in me.

― anthony, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Had the pleasure of seeing them live in a very intimate setting and it was quite fine indeed, although somewhat lost on the indie jerks which filled the place. I think it's somewhat hard to pull the whole Souther Gothik/Faulkner Gone Wrong vibe at this late date without somewhat referencing Mssr. Cave.

― jess, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I should also say that in fact for Nick and company's tour in America for the best-of album, 16 Horsepower was indeed the opening act...

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Is Nick Cave moody?

― Mike Hanle y, Tuesday, 28 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

5 years pass...

Slightly.

I revive because lead guy David Eugene Edwards' solo work as Wovenhand can be really great -- the new album, Mosaic, reminds me of everything from Peter Gabriel's Passion to Savage Republic and Morricone. Looks like he's opening some Serena Maneesh dates.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 September 2006 16:18 (6 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

this is the only 16 horsepower thread on ILM? sheesh!

new double live disc is great. everything from them is great. doesn't stray too far from a few basic themes (fire n' brimstone, evil ladies, jeffrey lee pierce, nick cave and hank williams walk into a bar), but, shit, that's ok. love them. and woven hand.

― Emily Bjurnhjam, Monday, 16 June 2008 07:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

sub-Nick Cave schtick

David Eugene Edwards sorta scares me whereas Nick Cave is more obviously a theatrical ponce. Maybe they both are, but it comes across to me as more believable in the hands of Edwards.

― RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 16 June 2008 09:17 (4 years ago) Permalink

Maybe I'm letting the whole son of an evangelist thing sink in too deeply...

― RabiesAngentleman, Monday, 16 June 2008 09:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Just discovered this band via Pandora and I'm loving everything I've heard thus far. Would anyone with more experience care to do a S&D?

― Allen, Thursday, 17 July 2008 23:47 (4 years ago) Permalink

Got into them via Secret South, and I think it's probably the best gateway album in that it seems to be the most consistent in tone although Low Estate is my favourite, probably because it has their two best songs on it in 'For Heaven's Sake' and 'Phyllis Ruth'. Olden and Folklore are arguably for fans only.

Woven Hand are pretty great as well though, with Consider The Birds probably the best one to get first. Blush/Blush Music have their moments, but again probably fans only.

― aldo, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:23 (4 years ago) Permalink

S/T > > > Consider The Birds. IMHO. but they're all great. Mosaic, while lovely, does show the first signs of Edwards treading water. not worryingly so, but he needs to mix it up a bit on the next one.

Secret South seconded for 16HP starters. just an awesome album. i was on the fence, but "Cinder Alley" won me over instantly, completely.

― Mr. Hal Jam, Friday, 18 July 2008 14:31 (4 years ago) Permalink

I always thought Secret South was mildly disappointing after Low Estate

― some dude, Friday, 18 July 2008 14:34 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Secret South is the best album as a whole. But they're much better live than on studio recordings. Sackcloth 'n Ashes sounds like it was recorded in a burlap sack. But it has some of their best songs. The songs from it sound amazing live.

― firehorse, Saturday, 3 July 2010 04:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

They do an absolutely killer version of Dylan's Nobody 'Cept You.

― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

man sackcloth 'n' ashes was a jam for me when it came out. think i got one of their EPs after that and then lost track.

so secret south is the one, yeah?

― fresno's wet (gbx), Saturday, 3 July 2010 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gonna disagree and have to go with FOLKLORE as being a favorite, though I'll confess that I don't care for the more 'upbeat' tracks and instead prefer the bleak majesty of 'Hutterite Mile'. The live disc HOARSE also comes highly recommended.

― Matt M., Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

just revisited Low Estate recently, and that album is still an absolute monster to me. never got around to checking out other albums besides Secret South, really should.

― some dude, Saturday, 3 July 2010 15:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

man sackcloth 'n' ashes was a jam for me when it came out.

can't really emphasize this enough -- listening to secret south and it sounds like driving a car for the first time by myself (even though i only got it two years ago)

RIP rev105

― catbus otm (gbx), Thursday, 6 September 2012 22:47 (8 months ago) Permalink

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