Fleetwood Mac/Buckingham Nicks remasters/reissues

I last heard it twenty years ago, but I remember that it didn't sound like either of them. And I remember that it was wonderful.

Fleetwood Mac outtakes:

Jam #2
Say You Love Me (Single Version)
Rhiannon (Single Version)
Over My Head (Single Version)
Blue Letter (Single Version)

Rumours demos and outtakes:

Second Hand News
Dreams
Brushes (Never Going Back Again)
Don't Stop
Go Your Own Way
Songbird
Silver Springs
You Make Loving Fun
Gold Dust Woman #1
Oh Daddy
Think About It
Never Going Back Again
Planets of the Universe
Butter Cookie (Keep Me There)
Gold Dust Woman
Doesn't Anything Last
Mic The Screecher
For Duster (The Blues)

Tusk demos and outtakes:

One More Time (Over and Over)
Can't Walk Out of Here (The Ledge)
Think About Me
Sara
Lindsey's Song #1 (I Know I'm Not Wrong)
Storms
Lindsey's Song #2 (That's All for Everyone)
Sisters of the Moon
Out on the Road (That's Enough for Me)
Brown Eyes
Never Make Me Cry
Song #1 (I Know I'm Not Wrong)
Honey Hi
Beautiful Child
Song #3 (Walk a Thin Line)
Come On Baby (Never Forget)
Song #1 (I Know I'm Not Wrong)
Kiss and Run
Farmer's Daughter
Think About Me (Single Version)
Sisters of the Moon (Single Version)

The only duff thing about either of them is the terrible sleeve notes for Rumours.

that spoken intro is fantastic though!

There's a dozen or so FM threads, but I'll use this one to state the obvious about how wonderful the extras are when it's late at night and you can't sleep.

will 'Tango in the Night' ever get this treatment?

and Mirage.

The TITN B-sides deserve a second listen, and a couple of the 12" mixes are amazing.

Looks like Buckingham Nicks will finally be reissued: (with one new recording of a song written for the original album but not recorded)

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/q-a-stevie-nicks-and-lindsey-buckingham-reveal-lingering-tensions-in-fleetwood-mac-20121205

We're still doing what we're doing, but we're not this year's model, per say.

ouch.

nice AV Club piece

http://www.avclub.com/article/stevie-nicks-and-lindsey-buckingham-made-fine-pop--225844

OH MY GOD THIS 75 S/T DELUXE THAT CAME OUT TODAY IS SIQQ
THE EARLY VERSIONS HOT DAMN

https://open.spotify.com/album/0OQxaj2MqTb9nEtoTPfN4P

Feel sheepish to admit this, but I'm only familiar with tusk and rumours and most of their singles. Should I get tango next or?

you should get s/t 75 next man. there's this new version that came out today I JUST POSTED ABOUT IT

Yeah read your post and was thinking maybe that one!!

Will do

Yeah, if you like Rumours then Fleetwood Mac is essential.

yeah those three are certainly the best (of this lineup). then tango in the night I guess and then that one that came after, and then you can ignore everything until buckingham came back on Say You Will

THERES A VERSION OF GREEN MANALISHI WITH LINDSEY ON VOX ON HERE ITS GOOD

wtf y'all, tell ross to check out the mirage reissue too

right, mirage, that's the other one 'that came after' tango. that was a good reissue.

Definitely get Mirage, but only after you've digested Fleetwood Mac and Tango in the Night.

"Warm Ways" is McVie's best performance.

Respectfully disagree! It’s Say You Love Me

Loving the self titled, thanks all!

McVie has so many good songs in the Welch era too

Please name some

https://youtu.be/syuFH74eDzo

https://youtu.be/EktiLcn04yk

https://youtu.be/zHBRzkV1gBQ

https://youtu.be/QxjDHw5FtOA

this is so fucking gorgeous that era was such a great band

https://youtu.be/nclZKBysaRc

Yeah, I agree - it's not like McVie suddenly started writing great songs the moment that Buckingham Nicks joined the band, and it's interesting to hear her development as a songwriter through those pre-'75 Mac albums too. The Welch era is generally underrated as fuck, though - Bare Trees in particular being a very good LP. Future Games, too.

i've never delved into the pre-buckingham nicks albums much but i guess i have to now, Come a Little Bit Closer is fantastic

They transitioned from being a British electric blues band to Californian soft rock much earlier than a lot of people think.

Yeah it's really fun to delve into, there's a very weird FM rock pshychedelia to some of Welch's songs

I'd probably start w Future Games, Bare Trees and Mystery to Me in that order

Also Welch and Kirwin are fantastic guitarists, it's kind of amazing when u you think about the guitar talent that's been in the band from Green through Buckingham

yeah wtf McVie is marvelous before 1975. Bare Trees is essential.

Also Turrican brings up something that kind of irritates me, which is the narrative that boy genius LB showed up and turned the ragbtag remnants of a British blues band into masters of pop craft where you can claearly hear their evolution on these albums, and frankly I think the fact that some of McVies songs wouldn't be out of place on the self titled show that she was already moving towards Rumours type material before Lindsay even joined

the Christine Perfect album (1970) also essential for anyone in love with McVies beautiful alto, it can more be streamed from track#8 on this double bill https://open.spotify.com/album/1D2h6EteNQ5oTQ4VsPWoas

btw Mirage >> TitN

They transitioned from being a British electric blues band to Californian soft rock much earlier than a lot of people think.

― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:52 AM (seven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Listening to just Christine's songs can leave a misleading impression, as can listening to side 2 of Bare Trees rather than side 1.

I think there is little doubt that LB totally transformed the band. Doesn't minimize the talents of the others - they were great songwriters and players and singers from the start! - but Bucky had a vision and definitely pushed the band to pursue that vision. Helped that they were hampered by drugs and drama and were apparently easily pliable, but I mean "Special thanks from the band to Lindsey Buckingham" says it all. Without him I think s/t might have been the swan song, and there certainly would have been no Tusk, Mirage or Tango (the last the group's second most successful record, right?).

Josh, you're missing the point - by the time Tusk happened, Buckingham had been in the band for a number of years and was eager to explore and expand the sound of the band, but that's not what UMS is getting at. The fact is that Fleetwood Mac had, by the time of Buckingham and Nicks joined, been stylistically in a Californian soft rock zone for years, and this is a huge reason why Buckingham and Nicks slotted in seamlessly. It's not hard to listen to Buckingham Nicks and Future Games and see how well the two would fuse together. The point is that Fleetwood Mac did not change the moment Buckingham Nicks had joined - they had already changed to the point where Buckingham Nicks would be a seamless fit.

I think for s/t and Rumours for sure. But Bucky dominates the sound and vision after that.

I always thought the change from blues to soft rock (with some excursions into other styles) was a gradual thing that began when, or even before, Peter Green left. Quite obvious by listening to Mac albums from the first half of the '70s in order.

I always got the feeling that Buckingham was the only one who had an idea of what to do with all that FU money besides drugs. I think Christine stayed pretty clean, didn't she? Buckingham always seemed to have a solid creative bond with her.

Regardless, I never really thought of LB-era FM as soft rock. They're too agitated and on-edge, anchored/disguised by such a beautifully solid rhythm section.

Yeah, they're soft rock only in the sense that they're not hard rock; it's not the Mac's fault that so many other soft-rock acts of their time were languid and edgeless.

And some of their rock wasn't soft in either sense

I had a whole thread about the essential oft-overlooked era

Fleetwood Mac between Peter Green and Buckingham/Nicks

I'm not discounting Buckingham's genius at all! I'm just saying they are all really interesting records, McVie was basically arriving at her BN era style on her own, and Bob Welch was a very interested and unique 70s rock guy, who could conjur a sort of ominous lightly psychedelic soft rock

but yeah Lindsay absolutely made them the mega band

but I mean "Special thanks from the band to Lindsey Buckingham" says it all.

lol it does say it all about what a coked up egomaniac he was at that time for sure

I think the greatness of McVie's songs on those albums was easily part of the reason they brought in LB/SN and fully committed to that direction.

it's kind of amazing how they were three great bands, the Green era was right up there with the Yardbirds as a great British hard blues band

so good

you know what I just realized is that Hypnotized feels like a it could have been a slight inspiration for Breakdown by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

Future GAmes is an amazing album, I like it more than Bare Trees. I like some of it as much as anything they ever did after too.

theres some cool live stuff from bare trees on this NEW RELEASE