McCartney POX (strictly post-Beatles material)

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I don't think we've done this before. Only post-Beatles material counts:

1. Here Today
2. My Brave Face
3. Somebody Who Cares
4. Distractions
5. No More Lonely Nights
6. This One
7. Back Seat Of My Car
8. Band On The Run
9. Too Many People
10.Only Love Remains

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 21:33 (twenty years ago) link

Does Veronica w/costello count? Didn't he co-write that?

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link

1. "Jet"
2. "My Secret Friend"
3. "Spies Like Us"
4. "Veronica"
5. "My Brave Face"
6. "No More Lonely Nights"
7. "Band on the Run"
8. "Maybe I'm Amazed"
9. "My Brave Face"
10. "Helen Wheels"

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 21:47 (twenty years ago) link

1 too many people
2 maybe I'm amazed
3 let me roll it
4 ram on
5 arrow through me
6 take it away
7 the pound is sinking

uhm

8 temporary secretary

don't think I can make 10.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

fuck I repeated "my brave face"! replace one with "temporary secretary"

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 22:10 (twenty years ago) link

spies like us, oh how you jest

1. waterfalls
2. maybe I'm amazed
3. junk
4. teddy boy
5. dear friend
6. wanderlust
7. my brave face
8. let me roll it
9. coming up
10. jet

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 22:12 (twenty years ago) link

Temporary Secretary played ten times.

Charlie Rose (Charlie Rose), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 22:20 (twenty years ago) link

the very idea.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

ok I'll try that tonight.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

With My Face On The Floor
Somebody Made For Me
She's Such A Beauty
Long Time No See
Lullabye
Promises I've Made
Live Til You Die
You Should Be Ashamed

Sorry, I had to.

Sarah Pedal (call mr. lee), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 23:33 (twenty years ago) link

A Wonderful Christmas Time

reo fordecor, Thursday, 9 October 2003 00:05 (twenty years ago) link

Sarah, you only had 8, add Love Will Stone You and Fresh As A Daisy.

mms (mms), Thursday, 9 October 2003 09:40 (twenty years ago) link

I'm going to be hilarious and say The Frog Chorus.

Nick H, Thursday, 9 October 2003 11:13 (twenty years ago) link

What about that song about an Irish service station - "Mulligan's Tyres" or something

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 9 October 2003 11:18 (twenty years ago) link

Let Me Roll It
Medicine Jar
Band on the Run
Jet
Maybe I'm Amazed - (the Wings over America version)

hmm ...
Let em In ?
Coming Up?
Bluebird

..Can't do it .. Sorry.

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 9 October 2003 11:42 (twenty years ago) link

Goodnight Tonight!

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 October 2003 11:49 (twenty years ago) link

everything off back to the egg. REally! A super underrated album by him. If he'd stuck with that wings line up for another record they might have churned out something really exceptional and interesting. Old Siam Sir, Arrow Right Through Me... I love that record. Even the horrible cover art.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 9 October 2003 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

Take it Away
Long Leather Coat
Coming Up
Another Day
C Moon
Live and Let Die
Silly Love Songs
Wonderful Christmastime
Only Love Remains
My Love

David Merryweather (DavidM), Thursday, 9 October 2003 17:40 (twenty years ago) link

Junk
Maybe I'm Amazed
Dear Boy
Ram On
Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
Mamunia
Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five
Let 'Em In
Live and Let Die
Secret Friend

dleone (dleone), Thursday, 9 October 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

The Frog Chorus is officially known as 'We all stand together', no? Or is that something else?

Joi Raida, Friday, 10 October 2003 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

ok it took time but I can make ten now, by bending geir's rule slightly.

9 live and let die (alternate: pipes of peace at halfspeed)
10 wings - hey jude (linda's tamborine & vocal mic mix)

listening to 'temporary secretary' ten times in a row -- I had to stop halfway through the first time. it's just not possible even for money.

(Jon L), Friday, 10 October 2003 04:24 (twenty years ago) link

'Goodnight Tonight' is my fave,McCartney shoulda made more disco trax.

Paul R (paul R), Friday, 10 October 2003 05:41 (twenty years ago) link

Thanks to this thread I went back and listened to 'Ram' again. Jeez, that's a good album. I've been getting back into Steely Dan and popular 70's smooth-folk-rock stuff like that recently, and Ram sounds like the point where The Beatles became Fleetwood Mac.

It also reminds me a hell of a lot of The Coral.

Right now, I think Ram is better than Abbey Road.

Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Friday, 10 October 2003 10:24 (twenty years ago) link

Coming Up*
Coming Up*
Coming Up*
Coming Up*
Coming Up*
Coming Up*
Coming Up*
Silly Love Songs**
Mull of Kintyre***
Let Me Roll It****

* = not a dis of McCartney, just recognition of how fuckin' fantastically great this song is

** = would achieve "Coming Up" status if he didn't start fucking around halfway through with all those Stereolab vox bits. I normally love bits like that and they're done pretty well but in the end it sounds like an overambitious experiment, but that's no crime, still a great great song.

*** = his talent for parody/mimicry etc never left him! Here it's 'pothead' does 'drunk'

**** = the sort of track I wearily and inevitably stick on POX lists, hoping nobody will notice, cuz if I DON'T put it on there ppl'll think I never heard it and won't take the rest of my list seriously

dave q, Friday, 10 October 2003 10:46 (twenty years ago) link

"Maybe I'm Amazed", but backwards. God, I love lentil soup....

Nick H, Friday, 10 October 2003 11:13 (twenty years ago) link

I like Let Me Roll It except for the verses. I guess I just don't really like McCartney as a lead guitarist, or a gritty blues-rock-ballad-guy.

dleone (dleone), Friday, 10 October 2003 11:19 (twenty years ago) link

I like McCartney best when he sounds like McCartney, not when he is trying to ape somebody else, like on "Let Me Roll It", "Goodnight Tonight", "Coming Up", "Spies Like Us" or "Temporary Secretary".

Melodic ballads is clearly what he is and remains best at.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 10 October 2003 23:00 (twenty years ago) link

I just wrote an appreciation of McCartney II for a book my friend's releasing. In researching the piece, I came to the inescapable conclusion that "One Of These Days" is one of Macca's best songs since the Beatles. It could have totally shared White Album space with "I Will" and "Martha My Dear."

mike a (mike a), Saturday, 11 October 2003 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

one of these days is really good but I don't much like how his voice gets all creepy and flanged at the very endn ("evah aaaaaaaaaahahahaha fter"... ick). but with coming up and waterfalls it does make the album one of the few post-Ram albums with multiple highlights

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Sunday, 12 October 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

Who's he trying to 'ape' on "Coming Up"? Whoever it is, I'm buying their whole collection

dave q, Monday, 13 October 2003 09:15 (twenty years ago) link

He's trying to ape disco. He, like all others, should have stayed away from disco.

McCartney is best at melodic ballads.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 13 October 2003 21:02 (twenty years ago) link

three years pass...
Looks like his whole catalog will be available on iTunes starting next Tuesday. Looking forward to finally being able to cherry pick through it all.

darin, Friday, 18 May 2007 17:13 (sixteen years ago) link

"Press"
"Goodnight Tonight"
"Take It Away"
"Arrow Through Me"
"Listen To What the Man Said"
"Maybe I'm Amazed"
"My Brave Face"
"Say, Say, Say"
"Letting Go"
"Jet"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 18 May 2007 17:54 (sixteen years ago) link

This is enormously difficult, but if you blow off all the hits (and I'd include at least "Maybe I'm Amazed" "Let 'Em In"):

"Arrow Through Me"
"However Absurd"
"Ram On"
"Back Seat of My Car"
"Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five"
"Let Me Roll It"
"Getting Closer"
"I'm Carrying"
"Letting Go"
"Summer Day's Song"

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 May 2007 18:13 (sixteen years ago) link

"Arrow Through Me" is rapidly becoming my favorite Macca moment.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 18 May 2007 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Big Barn Bed
Dear Boy
Teddy Boy
She's My Baby
Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five
Arrow Through Me
The Back Seat of My Car
Maybe I'm Amazed
Here Today
Long Haired Lady

darin, Sunday, 8 July 2007 07:55 (sixteen years ago) link

I assume everybody really loved "Freedom" until it got played during the Super Bowl and got super popular, right?

Cunga, Sunday, 8 July 2007 08:18 (sixteen years ago) link

chronologically:

Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
Hi Hi Hi
Jet
1985
Helen Wheels
Junior's Farm
Goodnight Tonight
Daytime Nighttime Suffering
Wonderful Xmastime
Coming Up

I know, the guy's a 'genius', and I treasured my "Hi Hi Hi" and "UA/AH" 45s as a 5-year old. (Still do.) So I really WISH I could enjoy his post-Beatles albums, but except for 2/3 of "Band On The Run", his albums just don't make it.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Sunday, 8 July 2007 10:20 (sixteen years ago) link

It seems you need to learn to enjoy his fantastic ballads and midtempo pop songs. They represent him at his best a lot more than the rockers.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 8 July 2007 11:15 (sixteen years ago) link

"Darkroom" *
"Mrs Vanderbilt" **
"Listen to What the Man Said"
"Stranglehold" ***
"Wanderlust"
"My Brave Face"
"No More Lonely Nights"
"Letting Go"
"Every Night"
"Pretty Little Head"

* For whatever reason. The melody pops up in my head from time to time.
** Yes, it's corny, but I loved it when I was 12.
*** Press to Play is such an underrated album!

Johan Lif, Sunday, 8 July 2007 20:20 (sixteen years ago) link

This is enormously difficult...

Indeed. I can't really think of any beyond "Maybe I'm Amazed"...

rogermexico., Sunday, 8 July 2007 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link

OK thanks Geir, I'll keep it in mind!
xpost

Myonga Vön Bontee, Sunday, 8 July 2007 22:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Rockers:

"Maybe I'm Amazed"
"Too Many People"
"Get On the Right Thing"
"Jet"
"Band on the Run"
"Nineteen-Hundred and Eighty-Five"
"Letting Go"
"Getting Closer"
"Old Siam, Sir"
"Stranglehold"

All highlights in his solo career, Geir.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 8 July 2007 23:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Those sound like everyone else. They might as well have been written by Cliff Richard in the 50s. It is his pop style that has that uniquely English/European style that was so great about McCartney, and about The Beatles in general.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 9 July 2007 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, don't contradict Geir! He's NEVER wrong.

Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 9 July 2007 00:36 (sixteen years ago) link

"Old Siam, Sir" and "Jet" could have been written in the 50s?!?!?! Man, Europe must be a crazy place!

Davey D, Monday, 9 July 2007 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link

It is his pop style that has that uniquely English/European style that was so great about McCartney, and about The Beatles in general.

As much as I love Macca's remarkable pop sensibilities, they were but one of the things that was great about him and The Beatles. Besides, the only thing on that list that could've been by Cliff Richard was "Get On the Right Thing." In fact, "Letting Go" sounds so much of its time, it wouldn't sound out of place on a comp w/ BadCo...but it doesn't sound remotely LIKE BadCo. And I defy anyone to argue "Too Many People" sounds generic in any way.

Honestly, sometimes I wonder if Geir's celebrity on ILM has gone to his head -- b/c these arguments seem to be getting increasingly facile and tossed off.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 9 July 2007 03:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I've heard plenty of McCartney and I'm sure there are better candidates...and yet, if I took the time to make a list I'd go with my gut and find a spot for "Silly Love Songs." What's wrong with that???

Cunga, Monday, 9 July 2007 07:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm I meant Little Richard not Cliff Richard. Paul McCartney's rockers, to me, sound like Little Richard. And that is not a positive thing!

Geir Hongro, Monday, 9 July 2007 07:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok. I'll try...

Right now it's:

"Magneto and Titanium Man"
"Monkberry Moon Delight"
"Mama's Little Girl"
"Hold Me Tight/Lazy Dynamite/Hands of Love/Power Cut"
"Some People Never Know"
"Arrow Through Me" (discovered through ILM!)
"Listen to What the Man Said"
"Little Lamb Dragonfly"
"Hi,Hi,Hi"
"Man We Was Lonely"

I've also been digging some of his more recent stuff, his last twenty years or so, but his 70's stuff just sounds cooler. He sounds more into it.

I've still never heard much from "McCartney II" through "Press to Play."

ColinO, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link

And I've never heard "Back to the Egg" either but if it's anything like "London Town" I don't think I want to. Definitely the worst of his 70's output- too much Denny Laine folky stuff. Even "Wild Life" is better.

ColinO, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 03:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Back To the Egg has very little in common with London Town. Seek it and McCartney II out post-haste!

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 04:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Even "Wild Life" is better.

Bit of an emotional overstatement there, mh?
Not sure myself whether there actually is *any* Maccasir album that's worse than Wild Life :(

t**t, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I like London much, much more than Egg. The latter has too many faceless rockers on it, although "Old Siam, Sir" and "Arrow Through Me" are both better than anything on the former.

Davey D, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link

The title track of London Town is a really nice composition. And the album's got "Cafe on the Left Bank" (which sounds like Duran Duran!) and "Morse Moose" - but yeah, Back to the Egg is a better sounding record and side one of that album is a really good side.

I like Wild Life a lot. The "throwaway" tracks are no more ridiculous or whatever than the ones on McCartney and I think I'd actually take "Some People Never Know," "Tomorrow," and "Dear Friend" over "Junk," "Every Night," and "Maybe I'm Amazed." (OK, that's actually a close call, but I just like the sequencing of Wild Life as an album a lot.)

Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Over "MAYBE I'M AMAZED"?!? Um, I like WWL just fine, but please.

"Every Night" is awesome, btw -- Matthew Sweet does a great cover on the tribute...

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

"I Am Your Singer" is a rad song.

Davey D, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm beginning to think that Wild Life is way underrated as a result of the context in which it was presented. Wasn't it released around the same time as Plastic Ono Ban and All Things Must Pass?

darin, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link

can someone do a poll cause this is really hard work?!

pisces, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

will anyone defend Pipes of Peace? Worth it only for "So Bad," which remains one of the Great Lost Macca Singles.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 10 July 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I am afraid that I cannot defent Pipes, although I really love "Say Say Say."

Xpost re: poll, I already did one.

Davey D, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 07:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Pipes, methinks, is nearly fine after all - esp. compared to really dull shit like Press To Play, which I bought recently and was GRANDLY dissappointed with.

t**t, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:16 (sixteen years ago) link

how on earth can "Press" and "Good Times Comin'" disappoint??

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 13:19 (sixteen years ago) link

O oh-key, Alfredo-san, just for you, just tonite, just now I'mma a-putting that damn thing on again! :)

t**t, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link

"However Absurd," fellas.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 14:29 (sixteen years ago) link

"However" - not! :(
"Good Times" - mm, good, like, yeh; wouldn't be out of place on Queen's Hot Space.
"Press" - nah, this's exactly the kind of '80s sound' that broes me to total numbness.
"Pretty Little Head", however (no matter how generically P-Gabrielesque it appears), me likes also -- a little.
"Write Away" - a decent George-Michael-song.
"Stranglehold" - wouldn't be out of place on Queen's The Game.

(Haha, no -- this doesn't mean I'll be buying me Wild Life next!:)

t**t, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 18:47 (sixteen years ago) link

Wild Life >>> Press to Play

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Wild Life >>> Press to Play

WORD

Davey D, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 18:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Um, a coupla more dozens of posts like that and - who kno's?!

t**t, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 18:59 (sixteen years ago) link

In the case of "Pipes...", the title track and "The Man" are great while "Keep Under Cover" is OK. The rest - apart from the production, which I love - is mostly rather mediocre. Not among his best albums.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:08 (sixteen years ago) link

"Keep Under Cover" is about the only thing that's compositionally interesting on that album. The production on the title track is really something else, though.

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

OMFG Where is the love for "Girls' School"?

Dr. Joseph A. Ofalt, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link

"Press" - nah, this's exactly the kind of '80s sound' that broes me to total numbness.

This is the kind of eighties sound that drives me to ecstacy. Twenty-four tracks madness! Linda's psychotic harmonies! Paul's guitar fills!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

And Carlos Alomar's, people!

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 12 July 2007 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

CANNOT RECALL THE RADNESS OF THESE GUITAR PARTS

Tim Ellison, Thursday, 12 July 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I cannot imagine a world in which "Press" does not exist.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 12 July 2007 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

"Press" and "Only Love Remains" were great. The rest of that album was not.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 12 July 2007 09:03 (sixteen years ago) link

... "Press" ...
This is the kind of eighties sound that drives me to ecstacy.
-- Alfred, Lord

Good Lord, we *are* two different people eh!:)

On the Wild Life front, however, didn't find it today in any of my hometown's shops. So got me 3 other Maccasir's instead, he.

t**t, Thursday, 12 July 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

junk
coming up
one of these days
too many people
front parlour
band on the run
darkroom
frozen jap
temporary secretary
the lovely linda

flappy bird, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 05:26 (seven years ago) link

The End of the End
English Tea
Scared
You Tell Me
Single Pigeon
You Gave Me the Answer
Magneto and Titanium Man
Dear Boy
Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey
Band on the Run

timellison, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 06:39 (seven years ago) link

lol @ flappy bird's McCartney range only extending to McCartney, McCartney II, Ram and Band On The Run ... all Pitchfork-approved favourites, I'm sure.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:18 (seven years ago) link

This is an impossible question for me, fwiw.

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link

oooooooooOOOOHHHH!!

no.

a few years ago I was driving with a friend to a Panda Bear show (the man from the Animal Collective). he put on "Darkroom." He asked us all in the car "who do you think this is?" We had no idea. It was wild. Listened to the whole record after that. Was blown away.

I don't like Ram at all. but Too Many People is good.

now JUNK? you wanna talk junk. you ever heard the Esher acoustic demos? when paul, george, and john got together at george's house in May 1968 and laid down all the songs they wrote in India. beautiful collection of double-tracked acoustics and vocals, messy and stoned and gorgeous. the demo of Junk on there has stuck with me ever since.

i ran out of songs so I put band on the run.

boom!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link

honestly i should've just written Junk ten times

flappy bird, Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link

I'll post 10 I wanna hear right now:

1. Figure of Eight
2. Only Love Remains
3. No More Lonely Nights
4. Take It Away
5. This One
6. Old Siam Sir
7. The Note You Never Wrote
8. Magneto and Titanium Man
9. Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five
10. Maybe I'm Amazed

Working night & day, I tried to stay awake... (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 18:23 (seven years ago) link


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