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it's here, it's queer, get used to it!

why all the jamc-luv these days? is it just because of 'lost in translation' or is there something more going on?

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

Some good records!

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:52 (9 years ago) Permalink

Bad cover bands! (ie, BRMC)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

Oh please, no. No.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:55 (9 years ago) Permalink

I still don't understand why people think they sound like jamc - though i've kind of gone out of my way to avoid em so what do i know

what i've heard sounds more like oasis

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:56 (9 years ago) Permalink

What track and in what context do the Mary Chain appear in "Lost in Translation"?

I haven't seen it yet.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

"just like honey" - melancholy drive thru tokyo

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

(also prominent in the trailers and tv ads)

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

The only track I've heard associated with the flick is "What's So Funny..." by Costello (Murray karaoking it?)

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:59 (9 years ago) Permalink

I still don't understand why people think they sound like jamc

It's more JAMC filtered through Love and Rockets' attempts on same -- which I adore, but BRMC proceed to take that formula and then, well, make it suck. One Spacemen 3 ripoff aside, they're a fairly boring and joyless crew.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:00 (9 years ago) Permalink

According to some friends in a band that played with them, they (the BRMC) take themselves VERY seriously.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:01 (9 years ago) Permalink

i kinda like the jamc-ishness of the raveonettes, but i haven't heard much

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

The new BRMC isn't very JAMC-ish at all. I think they tried to do a more straight-ahead garage-rock album, and it turned out even worse.

I saw the Raveonettes described as JAMC meets Buddy Holly. Intriguing, but I don't know if it's worth finding their album.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

I really like the first Ravonettes album "Whip It On." It's like if JAMC were into surfing. Deadpan, cruising sexiness.

I'm going to see BRMC tonight. I'm going in with an open mind. But I agree the new album is underwhelming.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

b-b-b-but JAMC were into surfing. deadpan, even.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:40 (9 years ago) Permalink

I just don't hear the connection between bands of late and JAMC. Even BRMC look the look but certainly don't have the sound. It's the sound, GDI.

― Michael G, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:04 (9 years ago) Permalink

i dunno, i personally prefer SMC to JAMC and BRMC but maybe GHMC is better or possibiliy IFJDOMC, MCCMMCCM, or HFRUEIIMC

― fds, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:08 (9 years ago) Permalink

Alex, skip work and go see the flick today. It's a must. "...Honey" plays over the end credits, incidentally. And Murray does karaoke the Elvis Costello song, but he kills with the Roxy Music song, which he sings like Ian Curtis. Goosebumps. Movie of the year.

― Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

I just got the Raveonettes first album today. Definitely in JAMC territory. Soundwise, it reminds me of the JAMC cover of "Who Do You Love" and of their more surf-guitar stuff. Only problem: all the songs sound very much the same, and they're all in the same key (on the cover, it proudly states that all songs are in the same key). So, any given song is great, but listening to eight in a row, they really start to blend together.

― dlp9001, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:27 (9 years ago) Permalink

dammit, ive got the sdtrk, but the movie hasnt come out here yet. i dont know if it ever will. ive been looking forward to it for much too long to miss out.

― Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 17:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

the best JAMC influenced bands these days are Radio Dept and House of Mexico who both ROCK in a noisy twee sort of way

― the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 22:05 (9 years ago) Permalink

According to some friends in a band that played with them, they (the BRMC) take themselves VERY seriously.

That's a surprise? Even the bands who (generally) swear they are "fun-loving" (ie. in a press kit) take their craft seriously.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 22:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm a gonna ditto the Raveonettes raving. They're a *good* JAMC/early MBV rip-off band. They do slavishly know their genre, but they somehow manage to be both cool and fun-loving with it.

Otherwise, I really don't much like the post-post-JAMC bands. BRMC can suck my big hairy moose's cock, as can the Warlocks.

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 08:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

Phoney Jesus and Mary Chain mania has bitten the dust.

― My Name is William Reid, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 12:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

That's a surprise? Even the bands who (generally) swear they are "fun-loving" (ie. in a press kit) take their craft seriously.

He didn't say they took their craft seriously. He said they took THEMSELVES seriously. There's a difference.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 13:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

YAY! The BBC sessions have been reissued, for release YESTERDAY! I know a lot of people were looking forward to this, so there it is...kthx

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 18:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

Amid the hatin', I'm happy to report that BRMC were pretty damn good last night.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 19:02 (9 years ago) Permalink

Someone must have forcefed them sugar. Did they actually move on stage or would that have hurt them?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 19:41 (9 years ago) Permalink

I think the closest anyone has come to the Jesus and Mary Chain recently is, *gulp*, Andrew WK's "She is Beautiful" - especially that "I ain't got nothin' to lose..." part. It's very easy to imagine Jim Reid singing that and the sound is very Mary Chain. All these other bands like BRMC and Raveonettes are basically DOA, they just have no strong tunes/hooks and no bite to the sound - especially BRMC who are just a godawful dirge (though their new record is better than the last one).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 20:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

does anyone know if freeheat are still going?

― joan vich (joan vich), Thursday, 25 September 2003 08:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

they seem to be (their website is still current) but maybe someone knows different? if katie g was around, she'd know

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 25 September 2003 09:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

does anyone know if freeheat are still going?

I saw 'em play a coupla months back, Jim Reid now looks like a slightly portly accountant - which is fine

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

does anyone know if freeheat are still going?
I saw 'em play a coupla months back, Jim Reid now looks like a slightly portly accountant - which is fine

...and perhaps equally pertinently, Jim'n'William's sister is currently peddling her wares in a band called Sister Vanilla, with contributions from both brothers on her album.

Looks like we Londoners missed (t)he(i)r last gig tho, cos it was this Tuesday just gone. Was anyone there?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 25 September 2003 15:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

esoj (or anyone else for that matter), can you direct me to more information on House of Mexico? My googling attempts have failed and having them mentioned in the same breath as The Radio Dept has me interested. Also, did the Sister Vanilla album ever come out? I liked the track on the geographic comp as well as the track she sang on Munki.

― fffv (fffv), Thursday, 25 September 2003 16:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

CD80 'portable' Mary Chain go!

Upside Down
Never Understand
You Trip Me Up
Just Like Honey
The Living End
Taste of Cindy
Some Candy Talking
Psychocandy
The Hardest Walk (Some Kind of Wonderful OST vers.)
April Skies
Kill Surf City
Happy When It Rains
Everything is Alright When You're Down
Darklands
Deep One Perfect Morning
Nine Million Rainy Days
Cherry Came Too
On the Wall
Sidewalking
Don't Ever Change
Blues From a Gun
My Girl
Head On
Sometimes Always

(ok, this one is very personal and ignores their later stuff. they're one of my three favorite bands and this collection represents some of my most treasured music, but the last 3 albums just didn't do it for me. "Reverence" is the glaring omission here because I like the idea and lyrics, but the song itself is kind of a tuneless dud. I'd also like to have had "Far Gone and Out" or "Almost Gold" but they're just not as good as the tracks that fit 80 minutes on this one.

I'd love to have someone recommend a CD80 for the last three albums/b-sides.

The list is chronological for official releases per song appearance - 81:21 overburn!)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 22:46 (9 years ago) Permalink

See, I'm mad at you because _Honey's Dead_ is far and away my favorite JAMC album. Not having ANY of those tracks is not on.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

PARTICULARLY if you're going to put the DEEPLY DEEPLY OVERRATED "Head On" on there!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:23 (9 years ago) Permalink

Don't kill him, Perry, as Just Like Honey shows taste.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:24 (9 years ago) Permalink

Actually Dan, I was thinking partially of you when I suggested someone do a comp of their favorite tracks from the later albums!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:26 (9 years ago) Permalink

My comp would be Barbed Wire Kisses.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:29 (9 years ago) Permalink

that's why you're a mentalist!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'm totally boring and unhelpful because my comp would be _Honey's Dead_ plus the remix of "Teenage Lust" from _I Hate Rock & Roll_.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:30 (9 years ago) Permalink

not that Barbed Wire Kisses isn't grebt/bording on perfection, but no "April Skies"? no "Just Like Honey", that's just weird, dude.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

Dan, I'll throw it on tonight!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

it saves me a CDR spencer!

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 November 2003 23:34 (9 years ago) Permalink

is it me, or is the whole brmc/warlocks dress-black-dope-drone deal like basically existentially incorrect at this stage of the game? god knows i loved this shit for years, and the first two mary chain recs remain two of my faves ever, but it seems like the wrong way to sound/dress/live now. somebody smarter than me needs to put a couple of a hundred words together explaining why i am right.

― dan (dan), Friday, 7 November 2003 00:32 (9 years ago) Permalink

they just don't do it right. If they were actually cool/sexy it would work. I think the Strokes follow a similar kind of "cool" dress code and it works better for them. I guess nowadays with the pervasiveness of stylists etc, people withhold the bestowing of cool. When Jim and William dressed like the VU and spray stenciled c*nt onto their button down shirts (buttoned all the way up) it was like the coolest thing in the universe.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 7 November 2003 00:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

Anyone heard the new JAMCha...I mean, Raveonettes?

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 7 November 2003 01:49 (9 years ago) Permalink

Spencer, I like you, but you've finally put a foot wrong here. Up your bum for not picking "Reverence"!!!! My favorite song ever!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:15 (9 years ago) Permalink

And I'd include "Sundown" for

the planet's more fucked up than I'll ever be

Right on! Honey's Dead was like a coming of age for me, I can't be objective about it.

Did Hope Sandoval break it off with her Reid bro then?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

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Well, most of the old band have other jobs / countries to live in, and so on...

― Mark G, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

I dunno,. I'm ploughing through the DVDs in the deluxe sets (all of them!)

It's comfort food, really...

― Mark G, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

I ordered all the deluxe sets too! have received three so far (they have to cross the pond...) I haven't watched much of the DVDs yet, just a bit of the live sets on Psychocandy & it's hilarious how loud they are. I guess I knew that! But it's just a mess.

Many of the extras are things I already had on the Rhino box, but it's nice to have the BBC sessions with the albums themselves.

― Euler, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Mr. Moore is indeed in -- we ended up becoming Facebook friends by chance a couple of years back, passionate fellow but also a good sense of humor. He posted this photo the other week, before starting to talk about getting out all the guitars again...

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Aww..

You see, over there on that TV screen is Jim looking all young and that.

And on the laptop is this pic. Actually, Jim isn't looking too bad for the years, so..

― Mark G, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh, I had never seen the promo for Sometimes Always before!

― Mark G, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://www.jesusmc.com/

Ooh, the 'online book' is, um, online!

― Mark G, Tuesday, 21 February 2012 16:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

I like how JAMC have settled into the "Cal Jam 2" phase of their career while still maintaining some sense of odd weirdness. The Reids are still obstinate but with a coating of the mannered gracefulness that comes from being a professional entertainer - those Bad Vibes could really be a Martin & Lewis act. I'm not Especially when William looks identical to King Buzzo.

On the plus side, now that they seem like they're giving a partial shit, they sound fantastic. I never would have expected them of all bands to be around in 2012, but it felt appropriate for an almost-summer Friday night at a horse race track in Inglewood. Lots of people dancing and singing along. Good times.

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 18 June 2012 01:22 (11 months ago) Permalink

I think they played last night in LA. Anyone go?

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 18 June 2012 03:28 (11 months ago) Permalink

I did! (hence the thread revive)

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 18 June 2012 04:51 (11 months ago) Permalink

Haha they played at that track? Wow. They only seem to advertise shows there if they're good-time white reggae bands.

― adderall cannonby (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 18 June 2012 05:03 (11 months ago) Permalink

Kind of a good series there this year... Devo, JAMC, X

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 18 June 2012 08:51 (11 months ago) Permalink

Ah that's what happens when you skim posts - sorry! Totally jealous.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Monday, 18 June 2012 10:58 (11 months ago) Permalink

Show in Madison just announced, YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 15:52 (11 months ago) Permalink

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! BOSTON SHOW ANNOUNCED. :DDD

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 19 June 2012 20:05 (11 months ago) Permalink

I am only a casual listener, but I feel like the fact they're playing at First Avenue means I have to go. A classic band playing at a classic venue? And I feel like they could play somewhere bigger in town. 25 bucks...

― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 21:41 (11 months ago) Permalink

They were complete shit last Thursday at the Fillmore. Big waste of money.

― svend, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 22:52 (11 months ago) Permalink

did somebody say something i can't hear it over the sound of my YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:12 (10 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Tonight! Excited.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 13:21 (8 months ago) Permalink

Still debating whether I should see them on Saturday. It's not that I don't want to, but I just haven't been feeling that great.

― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:04 (8 months ago) Permalink

you should

― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:05 (8 months ago) Permalink

seeing them made me feel better

― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:06 (8 months ago) Permalink

I probably should.

― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

― obliquity of the ecliptic (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:10 (8 months ago) Permalink

last reunion show i saw them do was ace

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

wait TONIGHT?????? WHERE???? ARE THERE STILL TICKETS??????

I missed them at Hopscotch and was SUPER BUMMED

― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:20 (8 months ago) Permalink

on the plus side you have retained your ability to hear

― dayo, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:23 (8 months ago) Permalink

Dan - yes, tonight! There seem to be tickets still available too :). My friend Kevin adn I are going. There's also a show tomorrow night too.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

def can't do tomorrow but could MAAAAAAYBE do tonight? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:31 (8 months ago) Permalink

Do it!

― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:32 (8 months ago) Permalink

psychic paramount are opening for them aren't they? even more reason to go.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:49 (8 months ago) Permalink

Missed the DC show. Heard they played for 70 minutes, which for them ain't bad I think.

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 14:55 (8 months ago) Permalink

x-post - Are they good? I was planning on pulling my usual turn up just before the headliner so I don't have to sit through awful opening acts thing. Also, I wanted to go home and nap first. Yes, I am old.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

Dan let me know if you decide to come! :)

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:39 (8 months ago) Permalink

yeah PP rock

haven't seen em live but I imagine they would kill it.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

btw Dan totally forgot but I have an extra ticket already.

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 16:58 (8 months ago) Permalink

PP love their fog machine too it seems (not sure if this is this good or bad)

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:29 (8 months ago) Permalink

oh man

really want to go, but I am dead tired

also haven't been home lately

argh

― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

you know, I always thought it was weird (& pretty lame tbh, tho the shows were usually amazing regardless) that I saw them prob eight or nine times b/w 1992-98 & they never once played a single goddam track from Psychocandy - the only thing from that era that made their setlists was 'Some Candy Talking.'

― Broney, Pt. 1 (Pillbox), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:35 (8 months ago) Permalink

otoh I bet they played the shit out of "Reverence"

― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

really want to go, but I am dead tired

Just drink go go juice.

― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

Set list from show two nights ago: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-jesus-and-mary-chain/2012/union-transfer-philadelphia-pa-13ddb9c1.html

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:42 (8 months ago) Permalink

That settles it, I'm going.

― NR’s resident heavy-metal expert (Nicole), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

oh shi

― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

right?!

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:47 (8 months ago) Permalink

I'm not even an early era JAMC person and that looks amazing

― DARING PRINCESS (DJP), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:49 (8 months ago) Permalink

that encore is near enough the perfect jamc 123

― ask morbs if he is better off than he was 4 days ago (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:50 (8 months ago) Permalink

snakedriver is such a great opening song

― Broney, Pt. 1 (Pillbox), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:17 (8 months ago) Permalink

um . . . awesome

― (✿◠‿◠) (ENBB), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 04:18 (8 months ago) Permalink

the encore basically is my life age 16-18

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 September 2012 22:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

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