Manu Chao RFI,C/D, S+D, whatever

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Clandestino is great, but I don't know anything about this guy...

Ben Dot, Wednesday, 30 July 2003 13:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Manu Chao, son of radical Spanish journalist, grew up in France where he was a memebr of Mano Negra, French 80s band that was punk meets rai meets ska or whathaveyou. As part of Mano Negra did crazy things like getting the French gov't to pay forthem to do a boat tour of Latin America or a train ride across Colombia where ppl eventually fell off until by the end of the tour I think only two people out of an original 40 were left.

The popularity of Bob Marley that he saw made him reevaluate some of his approaches and he travelled around, taping himself and others playing and released the results as Clandestino.

Mano Negra - the Best of is your best bet, very different from his solo stuff tho King of Bongo is here in the first of its many reworkings.

Chao- Proxima Estaction: Esperanza is very similar to Clandestino. if youliked it, you'll like that.
Radio Bemba Sound System: live album, much closer to Mano Negra in energy. Smeone on oanotherthread was highly recommending the dVd of it.

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Absolute classic.

I prefer the stuff he did with Mano Negra to his solo stuff but it's all great.

Search: all of it (duh!) but Puta's Fever is probably the best.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Get a Mano Negra compilation, i'd suggest, and either the first or the second of his solos rekkids - for starters (the third is live, i gather - haven't heard't m'self). After that it shouldn't be too difficult to make up yer mind whether or not to dig further.
((i happen to be one of those who's more fond of Chao solo than Negra the band))

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

mano negra was one of those life-changing bands in southern europe, but looking at it with perspective i think i stick to 'clandestino'.
'próxima estación esperanza' is a correct follow-up, but not as good. worth getting if you really like the first one, though.
there's hundreds of bands copying this style (and mano negra's) in spain, france, italy and latin america now. chao is like a demi-god in some places, and definitely a guru and an antiglobalization leader (against his own will).

joan vich (joan vich), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Proxima Estacion... I guess I have to go get Clandestino now.

Millar (Millar), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG! Classique, monsieur! Listening to Casa Babylon right the fuck now.

I'll make a humble contribution when I come back from the supamarket. KTHXBYE

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 30 July 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Mon Dieu! That's what I meant to say, but my French...ze rusty...AH, FUCK IT...I have to stop making apologies and bad jokes, GODNAGNAMIT.

Go get the best of compilation. It is distilled greatness. Start there. If you like the mellower moments best, follow it up with Manu's solo stuff. It is trés stoner-friendly. Clandestino is better than Esperanza, if only 'cuz Esperanza is more of the same, 'cept less inspired, sans a few choice cuts. The live albums for both Radio Bemba and Mano Negra are rather manic and speed induced, pogo skankin' full-throttle ska craziness that at times seems reminiscent of prime RHCP and Fishbone, and that might scare some peeps away, but it wouldn't be anywhere near fair to make that comparison really, 'cuz bby, it's so much more than that. As for late period MN (Casa Babylon), it is very hyper, sample friendly, and has a very noticeable hip-hop influence, yakkity yakk...Mano Negra's best are Puta's Fever and Casa Babylon, so go get whatever's up yr alley, ya dig?

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Thursday, 31 July 2003 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...
fucking christ manu chao is like the norah jones of europe but i actually sort of like norah jones

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i just mean in his sheer ubiquitousness and signifying a certain kind of "good taste"

that one song, i never want to hear it again ever

amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic. What's the "one song," amateur!st? "Me Gustas Tu"? Anyways, classic. Search all.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

i just mean in his sheer ubiquitousness and signifying a certain kind of "good taste"
that one song, i never want to hear it again ever
-- amateur!st (amateur!s...), February 2nd, 2004

We can never be friends now. You've ruined it FOREVER.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Monday, 2 February 2004 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

aargh he's the bob marley of australian university students, destroy destroy destroy in a big flaming pire w all the ben harper and cat empire records too

jeremy jordan (cruisy), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

hey, i'm guilty of blind hate towards douchebags in bob marley shirts too, but that doesn't mean he didn't make great records

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

same goes for manu chao, obvs, even though i've never seen a manu chao shirt. they aren't tie-dye are they?

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, yes. At least one of them. :(

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't see how his music sounds at all *reverent* like Norah Jones's or Marley's or Ben Harper's does. He's all over the fucking map, and he turns everything into a party -- More like Los Fabulosos Cadillacs circa "El Matador", or the Pogues at their drunkest, or Rachid Taha, or Beck circa "Loser." I mean, to me, Manu Chao sounded like a really awesome rock en espanol band, even if it wasn't technically all in espanol. And with really wacked out dub parts too. I don't see where the "good taste" stuff comes in. I've always been suspicious of David Byrne/Paul Simon/Sting types trying to turn ethnic music into art and taking all the life out of it, but he's more like Santa Esmeralda or Boney M than like them! But then again, I don't live in Australia...

chuck, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 03:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Or maybe the English Beat are a better comparison. I dunno...

chuck, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Plus, "King Kong Five" by Mano Negra is one of the catchiest rock singles of the past two decades!

chuck, Tuesday, 3 February 2004 03:03 (twenty-two years ago)

chuck sooooooooo otm

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 03:08 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah im not saying anything about the guy, the records might be fabulous, it's just that "manu chao" signifies here like a big mac

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

for example a restaurant review called the decor of some trendy new fusion place "very manu chao"

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

the one song is def "me gustas tu"

amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

cinniblount demasiado on the money

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 13:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the records, but I could see where Amateur!st is coming from -- it's definitely the kind of thing that I could see playing into this scenario:

High school girlfriend goes to Europe for a couple weeks in the summer, comes back with Manu Chao CD -- "Oh my god, they were playing this ALL over Europe. It's like THE SHIT there! It totally reminds me of my trip! Everything's so much more DIFFERENT there! I wish you could have seen it!"... then she breaks up with you because she just can't relate to your worldview anymore.

I remember before anyone in the states had heard of Jamiroqui, he filled this same role...

And the description of the restaurant is hilarious.

Again, though, I love Manu Chao's music. Best party records around.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i think it was charlie gillett who said manu chao is like bob marley AND bob dylan AND john lennon, all in one person. i agree.

joan vich (joan vich), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
hi,... uhm, i'm doing a study on manu chao...and blahblahs...i just heard a song called "sex" by him...(?) it's a sample i guess...it's actually a remix of a very "pop" song (sorry i don't know the artist) which goes like "skin to skin...you're my all time lover...lalala"...and it has german words in it complemented by english tralalas...i know you guys are very much into these "thingy", if you have any information please, i'd really appreciate it...thanks!

donna amor, Friday, 2 September 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
As we all know, every melody in music has been played before. However, not all music can make one interpret culture through a different lens like Manu Chao. Verdad ?

Matt Russoniello, Saturday, 1 October 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Dud. Most of his songs are the same since La Mano Negra which i hugely disliked. Mediterranean folky-punky crusty drunken crowd music. Which was okay but they didn't do it best by far at the time.

Mano Negra did their part to bring back folk instrumentation in a rock context which is cool, but the ....compositional template is so basic and blatantly repeated up to Chao's recent stuff it makes one cringe. Chao himself is redeemed by his social/political militancy, but/therefore musically redundant. And now I'll read the answers up there

blunt (blunt), Sunday, 2 October 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

there's hundreds of bands copying this style (and mano negra's) in spain, france, italy and latin america now. chao is like a demi-god in some places

I also wanted to say this actually. Which only makes it worse.

blunt (blunt), Sunday, 2 October 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

Thank **** for VV writers. the Pogues at their drunkest, or Rachid Taha is both OTM and doing justice to those who did it best !

blunt (blunt), Sunday, 2 October 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

Pah to haterz. Manu Chao's recent work with Amadou & Mariam is Da Bomb, y'all.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 3 October 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

y'know, the vocals have to be really bad to actively ruin a song for me, but that "Bongo Bong" one ... yeesh

lemin (lemin), Monday, 3 October 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

Amadou & Mariam were da bomb before MC picked up his first gee-tar.

blunt (blunt), Monday, 3 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

new album is great. he also put on one of the best shows i've seen this year. people who seem to have confused him with the gipsy kings or something make no sense to me.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 16 September 2007 14:08 (eighteen years ago)

Gipsy Kings have little to do with him except they also rehash a samey limited repertoire over and over and over and over and over- but their ethno schtick is much less insufferable than his asinine world pop IMO.

blunt, Sunday, 16 September 2007 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

world pop, yes. asinine only if you mistake lightness for liteness. i hear tight pop songs, nice hooks, pogo-punky beats, and i think this album is my favorite thing he's done since puta's fever.

tipsy mothra, Sunday, 16 September 2007 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

i love the new one and the fact that he's actually dipping into the "rock" idiom more. "The Bleedin' Clown" on the new one is an example of what i mean. it feels to me like something the Clash could've done had they remained active

outdoor_miner, Sunday, 16 September 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

I loved Proxima Estacion before I all the way dipped my toes into "world" music, and I'm no Norah fan. The new one, La Radiolina, hasn't made it for me yet.

kiss out the jams, Sunday, 16 September 2007 20:09 (eighteen years ago)

I've been liking Radiolina, but only listened to it twice so far... not enough to write distinct impressions.

sleeve, Sunday, 16 September 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

Once here.

kiss out the jams, Monday, 17 September 2007 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

I can't say Radiolina is all that good. There are a few really good tracks here and there, "Politik" and a couple others, but even the good tracks don't compare at all with the best stuff on the first two albums. I mostly find it a little repetitive and uninspired. It's funny, though, because both Clandestino and Proxima Estacion play a lot, of course, with repetition, reprises, re-playing of motifs and stuff, but that worked so well for those albums. On Radiolina, it really seems like Chao only wrote 5 songs and gave up. There's also something really down about it, like he sounds a little depressed even though he's singing more upbeat rock songs. It made me a little sad -- Clandestino is one of my favorite albums ever, I don't think I've ever gotten sick of it. It's so raucous, angry, and dark, it's fantastic. Radiolina is dark, too, but it sounds more like the guy just gave up on the world. There's nothing nearly as playful as Proxima Estacion or as subversive Clandestino. It sucks 'cos I really want to like it, I love those first two albums and Chao seems like a cool guy, but it's just not doing it for me.

Mark Clemente, Monday, 17 September 2007 13:37 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

This.

Moka, Monday, 2 March 2009 06:37 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

My wife put on Radiolina this afternoon, still sounds good. What has he been doing for the last 8 years? I gather he still plays a lot of festivals, but no new material I'm aware of.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 31 January 2015 22:58 (eleven years ago)


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