Howard Tate.

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Howard Tate made one of the more perfect soul LPs of all time, Get It While You Can (the excellent CD reissue is inexplicably out of print) and a better-than-decent LP on Atlantic in 1972 (recently reissued and still available) before disappearing into the wilderness. Now he's back and working with his old collaborator Jerry Ragavoy. The new record, Rediscovered, came out two weeks ago but I haven't had a chance to pick it up. He does an obligatory new song by Elvis Costello (I guess this models itself on the Solomon Burke comeback record, although it has the potential to be better) and also Prince's "Kiss" (!!!). Has anyone else heard this? Impressions? Thoughts on the older Tate records?

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

He was on Letterman last night, was very good.

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Really? What a coincidence!

So he still has that voice? Did he sing in falsetto?

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I really like this cover:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre900/e959/e959822wo3n.jpg

amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I think he's brilliant, and really hope the Get It While You Can sessions are reissued. I read that the New Yorker did a piece on him describing that album as a classic, and the demand led to people selling it on ebay for upwards of $60 - 80.
I still don't own it, and am hoping for a reissue. I have the new one on order, but the local store still hasn't gotten it in.
I really love the s/t album, though obviously it isn't as good as Get It While You Can. I think his version of Girl From North Country is amazing, and I find myself constanting singing that one in my head (instead of Dylan's, which is quite beautiful as well).
If you search on soulseek, you can find an LP called Reaction. Haven't given it a good enough listen to say anything about it.

Jonathan, Thursday, 17 July 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

The "Get It While You Can" comp is essential soul music. I got it when it appeared back in '95 or thereabouts. I expect it'll be reissued in the wake of Tate's comeback. I really like the '72 Atlantic "Howard Tate" (reissued in the last couple years by Koch)--a little funkier and really live-sounding. There are moments when I think Tate overdoes it just a little but he owns that particular kind of singing, and his version of "Girl from the North Country" is quite good. He has a song on a comp called "Lost Soul" and while I haven't heard his other '70s material, I understand it's not up to the standard of his Verve and Atlantic work. It was great to see him on Letterman--his voice is virtually intact, and Ragovoy was there on piano alongside. I haven't heard "Rediscovered" but plan to buy it this weekend. I live in Nashville now and as Tate's booking agency is based there, I expect he'll do a show there, which'll be a dream come true. He's a guy I never figured would surface again.

Jess Hill (jesshill), Friday, 18 July 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm told the new album makes use of a keyboard bass as well as dated 80s-sounding production. Can anyone verify this?

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 July 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I just got the new one, and am listening to it now. I really love it so far.
Jerry Ragovoy uses a keyboard bass on almost every track. I wouldn't say the production sounds dated at all, though. Tate's voice is in perfect form. What's odd is that inside the booklet, there's a picture of Tate playing guitar, though he doesn't play guitar on any of the songs.

Jonathan, Friday, 18 July 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha let's see if Alex in NYC will start haranguing about Howard Tate!

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 18 July 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, Jess Hill, where'd you go anyway? You've got great taste and can write well - your contributions are appreciated. Let us know what you think of the new one when you pick it up.

Anyway, yeah I pulled out the Get It While You Can Sessions cd last night while I was cooking chili, and goddamn if it didn't sound great. I hadn't listened to it in a while - silly me. It struck me how urban blues/B.B. King/Bobby Bland the material was; for some reason I had remembered him as being in more of a boogaloo/early-funk vein (probably because of "Look At Granny Run Run"). I had completely forgotten he did the original "Stop", man what a great song that is.

Ragavoy's production is cool aside from the echo on the vocals (what're you gonna do), but I'd love to have heard what he'd have sounded like set against the Atlantic/Stax style of the time. I've never heard his later 70's lp for Atlantic, but now I really need to.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 18 July 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

shit what a horrible first sentence in that last paragraph, but you get me

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 18 July 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

His performance on "Get It While You Can" (the song) is wonderful. Amateurist, at first I didn't follow when you asked JB about his falsetto, as I didn't really associate him with that technique; but yeah, it's the completely judicious way he uses it which makes him great. He can hit the notes when he wants, but he waits for the most opportune time to employ it, for maximum impact. He only uses it on "Get It While You Can" at the end of the third verse, and then on the brief fade-out.

Also, is "Look At Granny Run Run" presaging Viagra?! What is this "pill" referred to:

"Look at Granny run-run, and Grandpa runnin' close behind
Look at Granny run-run, there's something on Grandaddy's mind
went to the doctor, got a brand new pill
the doctor said 'son, you ain't over the hill'
Now he can't sit still, great-gosh almighty
look at Granny go-go, faster than a Greyhound Bus
look at granny go-go, now grandpa's getting serious"!!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 18 July 2003 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll just add that I love Get It While You can too, but I've not heard the new stuff. I always liked Ragovoy, that dramatic orchestration, it worked really well on some things, like Garnett Mimms and some Lorraine Ellison.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 19 July 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Ellison's "Stay with Me" is one of my favorite records ever!

amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 19 July 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Just found this at Dusty Groove America on the Upcoming releases page:

Howard Tate -- Howard Tate's Reaction . . . CD . . . Around September 23, 2003
A pretty great album, and one of the few rare LPs cut by 60s soul legend Howard Tate! The record was issued on Lloyd Price's Turntable imprint -- and it was recorded by Price in Jamaica, with a style that takes on occasional rocksteady influences, but which also stays pretty darn close to the deep soulful vibe of Tate's Verve recordings! The production is dark and spooky, and Tate's voice has this excellent heartbreaking hard soul quality. Titles include "My Soul's Got A Hole In It", "Come Into My Heart", "Hold Me Tight", "These Are", "Little Volcano", "Question", and "Plenty of Love".


Here's hoping the Get It While You Can sessions are reissued soon.

Jonathan, Friday, 1 August 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
If you want to read a great article on Tate, go here:
http://edition.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/09/25/wkd.howard.tate.ap/index.html

Jonathan (Jonathan), Sunday, 28 September 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...
For those who haven't heard, Hip-O Select (Universal's answer to Rhino Handmade) has reissued Howard Tate's Get It While You Can with 18 bonus tracks. Can't wait to finally get this on CD. You can read about it here.

Jonathan (Jonathan), Sunday, 13 June 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks fabulous. I have the old Mercury reissue of these tracks. The '72 Atlantic "Howard Tate" is mighty fine too.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 13 June 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
what a genius.

Just got the '72 s/t on Atlantic and it's killer. I think the strongest, most affecting song may be the only one he wrote himself: the closing "The Bitter End". sneaky title for a song that's so poignant and uplifting .. his performance totally convincing and scary good.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 30 December 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

oh, I also did Reaction a couple months back. That one is great too. Howard does reggae!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 30 December 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

did *get*, that is

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 30 December 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

I'll have to get this. Get It While You Can is the only one I know - it's pretty amazing.

TRG (TRG), Friday, 30 December 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)

i sold the old reissue (knowing full well that a new, better one was coming out), but still need to get around to buying the new one

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
Has anyone picked up the new live album? I haven't seen it anywhere, but will likely buy it online. Just wondering what people's thoughts are on it.

Jonathan (Jonathan), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm disappointed that he didn't include "Louisiana 1927," which he'd been performing in shows a couple months before Katrina hit. Didn't know this was out, though I knew it was in the works. Thanks for the heads-up!

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

the live album is fantastic.

I got his new one the other day--interesting tale to tell about that one, e-mail me if you want more info, it's kinda delicate so I'd rather do it that way. Suffice to say, I got a kinda inside line on it and want really really badly to write about it, which I'm working on right now...

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 22 July 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Just got the Hip-O-Select reissue of Get It While You Can. Very happy.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 16 February 2008 05:51 (eighteen years ago)

I need to get that.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 February 2008 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

I ended up writing about Howard Tate for a No Depression piece. I met him at a performance he did in Nashville and interviewed him a couple times over the phone. This was all around the release of A Portrait of Howard. Suffice to say that his life and career represent a cautionary tale for anyone who thinks the music business is fair, equitable or caring about its talents--and also for anyone who thinks it's enough to have talent to become a justly rewarded performer. In other words, Tate got screwed, and might've done it at least partly to himself. His career also supports my theory that soul music has always been a producer's medium. I think Tate's a magnificent singer who got derailed along the way; and now, he is working with a producer in Nashville who might or might not impose his thing on Tate--his songs and his production style, which let's hope are not going to be wildly inappropriate.

whisperineddhurt, Saturday, 16 February 2008 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

Thanks for the update, Edd - greatly appreciated.

Joseph McCombs, Saturday, 16 February 2008 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

Looking at the number on my copy, looks like there about a thousand left, Steve.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 16 February 2008 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

So you'd better...

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 16 February 2008 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

...get it while you can.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 16 February 2008 23:38 (eighteen years ago)

Most tracks arranged by Artie Butler. Who is all over that Brill Building book by Ken Emerson which I will take the opportunity to recommend on this thread as well, especially to Joe and Edd.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 16 February 2008 23:39 (eighteen years ago)

Ha, I tried to google that Edd Hurt article in No Depression and hit a page about a Bobby Purify album produced by Dan Penn.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Saturday, 16 February 2008 23:56 (eighteen years ago)

No Depression's back pages aren't on line. yeah, that Bobby Purify record is a good one--in fact that piece on him was the very first thing I ever wrote for the Nashville Scene...at the show I saw Tate do (record-store instore w/ Steve Weisberg on piano [producer of Portrait]), Howard sang great, indulged in a long rap about drugs and Jesus and stuff, which I found fascinatingly crazy but which the audience probably saw as, er, uhhmm...but that's soul music, what would it be without craziness? But, he told some stories afterwards about touring the South in the wake of "Ain't Nobody Home," which was his first big hit (and, recently done rather well on Sterling Harrison's South of the Snooty Fox, in case any of the other soul fanatix 'round here haven't heard that fine record [whose high point is Jim Ford and Bobby Womack's "Surprise, Surprise"]).

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 17 February 2008 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

and, not recently re Sterling Harrison, who died a few years back but whose record just got released last year. Good singer with more than a trace of Johnnie Taylor. (btw, last night I heard this Johnnie Taylor track from '82, with strings, atypical for JT, that's on a Northern Soul comp--and, wondering if any of Tate's stuff ever shows up as Northern Soul [a maddeningly inclusive "genre," am I right about that?]).

whisperineddhurt, Sunday, 17 February 2008 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

Yes. And I better move on getting the Tate cd. Edd, I must confess to reading and skimming your well written Howard Tate article in NO D at Borders and then not buying the issue. So I was just trying to find it online as well and see it's not available.

curmudgeon, Sunday, 17 February 2008 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

July 16 2011 NY Times

Ragavoy wrote and produced Tate:

Jerry Ragovoy, Writer of Soulful Ballads, Dies at 80

By WILLIAM GRIMES

Jerry Ragovoy, who wrote or collaborated on some of the most soulful ballads of the 1960s, including the Rolling Stones hit “Time Is on My Side” and the Janis Joplin signatures “Piece of My Heart,” “Cry Baby” and “Try (Just a Little Bit Harder),” died on Wednesday in Manhattan. He was 80.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 16 July 2011 22:21 (fourteen years ago)


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