Jealous of you Brits. Going to check my local shop at lunch, but I'm not going to get my hopes up. After all, I've been waiting years... whats a few more weeks/months?
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
It took 10 years and tons of hand-wringing, but don't worry, they've completely botched the job:
http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blogspot.com/2012/05/mbv-loveless-2012-remasters.html
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
great article, but still can't get over your usage of "dosh"
dosh dosh dosh dosh dosh dosh dosh
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
"The 2012 release has the CDs backwards, though the cover art still indicates above."
So I'm assuming the printing on the CDs themselves is wrong? Confusing article.
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Just order from Amazon.co.uk already! Virtually the same price they're getting in the UK shops (including shipping) and you'll only have to wait a week maybe.
Alright, I'm done trying to help.
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
I may end up doing just that, but the last time I ordered something from Amazon UK it ended up being a huge cluterfuck wrt to the order and it ultimately ended up getting cancled. It just made me not want to go that route again. Granted, this was in like 2006 so maybe things have improved since then.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Maybe it was one of their sellers? I've never had any problem ordering directly from Amazon.co.uk going back to 2004.
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
I order from Amazon UK pretty consistently and haven't had any problems ever.
So the takeaway from all this is to not purchase any remasters on the first go-around. I had to deal with this with the New Order remasters and I'm fucking tired of it.
― Vini Reilly Invasion (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 19:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
So according to the dudes at Reckless, Amazon UK may be our only option for some time. They said they've gotten tons of questions, so they looked into when they'd come out here. Short answer, according to them anyway, is - they're not. Reckless will be getting the import versions in about a month or so, but they'll be expensive. As of now they aren't seeing any domestic issues through any of their distributors.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
These are selling hugely.
Top ten entries for all three?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
Re: the mislabelling and the "digital transfer glitch", if the way to tell the difference is indeed the clear start to Only Shallow and the fadier-fade to Soon, then they are mislabelled. The glitch 2:46 into What You Want is also definitely there, but it's weird, not like regular clipping, almost like a fault in the tape that's just on Bilinda's vocals or something. I need to read the P4K interview again, cos Shields mentions sacrificing one instant of one track for the sake of the whole album; I dunno if it was on the original remaster or the 1/2 inch one. If he's as much of a perfectionist as he's meant to be, it's hard to fathom that this could be an avoidable mistake.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 06:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
they are also at Amoeba with free shipping:
http://www.amoeba.com/buy-stuff/detail/my-bloody-valentine/isn-t-anything-cd--432535.htmlhttp://www.amoeba.com/buy-stuff/detail/my-bloody-valentine/loveless-expanded-remastered-cd--432537.html
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 07:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hey-oh, interview about the new album:
http://thequietus.com/articles/08742-kevin-shields-interview-my-bloody-valentine-new-album
― btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 09:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://sickmouthy.com/2012/05/09/loveless/
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Good quote from the above interview:
Much has been made in the MBV mythology of drum & bass tracks that never saw light of day... until now. "There's one drum & bass song, from that era when we were doing drum & bass music, which never came out," Shields reveals. "We were actually inventing a new sound – and this song doesn't really represent it, but – we were doing slowed down drum & bass music around 1993, 1994. But it just came to nothing, mainly because we didn't know how to do it. We didn't realise that you use just a few good samples, then it's about how you stretch them on the computer. We were trying to program it, work out every beat. We got some really good things, but the lesson we learnt was that without the element of spontaneity, without the element of chance we used to get from live playing, it doesn't work for us. Just making music on the computer isn't really what I'm into. But there's one song that survived from that period, that approach. Like slowed down drum & bass. Except, um... it's really fast."
― btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hey Sick Mouthy, I too noticed the errant apostrophe on the EP collection sleeve. But I think that was an aesthetic choice, as ungrammatical as it is, due to their use of lower case text; without the apostrophe it would read as 'eps'.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 11:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, I assumed so too. As a copywriter it bugs me, though!
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
The sleeve of Isn't Anything mixes capitalized (title) and non-capitalized (band name), so there's no real justification for the ep's thing
― btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 12:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Sort of. They have Loveless, Isn't Anything says "currently unavailable" and the EPs don't even show up in search.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 13:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
CD1, the mis-labelled 1/2 inch analogue tape remaster, is definitely more physical.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'd actually like to hear the 1/2 analog master on a big audiophile-level system. I'm hearing a "difference" but I may be missing out.
― Vini Reilly Invasion (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
sick - have you had a chance to listen to the CDs on a proper system yet? (all the technical pressing errors aside i'm curious how they sound)
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 23:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
that's strange, Isn't Anything has been unavailable but you can still buy Loveless for $24.98 but yes the EP's are not for sale for whatever reason.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 10 May 2012 03:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://sickmouthy.com/2012/05/09/wednesdays-listening-2/
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 05:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
Aah, but you forget the part where I have Amazon Prime. Free 2day shipping, fool.
― kelpolaris, Monday, May 7, 2012 10:40 PM (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
For some indefinite date in the future as opposed to probably within a week if you buy from Amazon.co.uk. Normally seems to be that when things are going the opposite direction across the Atlantic, from Amazon itself anyway, as opposed to marketplace. & a lot of marketplace stores are U.S. anyway when you're ordering over here.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 10 May 2012 06:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Pretty lamentable showing for the reissues in the midweek charts – EP’s at 22, Loveless at 34, Isn’t Anything not in the Top 40 at all. This probably means that none of them will be in the final Top 40 on Sunday. So no Exile On Main Street-style second chart coming, due partly to poor promotion (does anyone know these things are out again who didn’t already know it?), partly to total lack of radio support (OK, MBV is not exactly Radio 2 friendly but I haven’t heard them being played anywhere else) and partly to reissuing them on a Bank Holiday Monday. When I went into Fopp on the Monday morning I half expected there to be a queue, but most of the people in there seemed to be going straight to the Small Faces reissues.*
*and another thing, music industry; don’t put 15 major new albums out on the same day. I doubt whether even Elton John bought them all and I’m only going to pick them up for £3 each in MVE round about this time next year.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
I wouldn't call that 'lamentable', "Loveless" only made 24 the first time out.
The Bank Holiday opening affects all the albums sold 'over-the-counter', and most of the other albums do not have a 'premium' involved in the 'hard-copy' as opposed to the downloadable. (Or, do albums not get downloaded as a rule in the same way as singles do?)
So, are the Small Faces troubling the midweeks?
I hung around MVE for the Jesus and Mary Chain reissues, in vain.
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 10:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
A streaming chart is beginning on Monday so that may change everything. But Fopp were offering all three MBV CDs for £25 inclusive - no signs of this happening in HMV, and of course albums totally absent from supermarket racks (even Richard Hawley, #2 in the midweeks, wasn't in Sainsbury's).
No sign of the Small Faces in the midweeks.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
I got mine in Whiteleys HMV for the same deal.
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
didn't know there were THREE versions of SOON, as per that Quietus piece.
― piscesx, Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, they missed off the Weatherall remix version, a shame as that was the first MBV record I bought, having heard it in the local recshop.
Eventually, tracked down the original and realised that was better. But, still..
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
ah that makes 4 then aye. but also there's 3 of the actual un-Weatherall one according to Shields.
― piscesx, Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
OK, clue me:
1) 7" single2) 12" single3) Weatherall remix4) LP version5) "Analogue" version
um...
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
to say nothing of the cassette and minidisc versions..
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
or indeed the Eno remix.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 11:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
The EP / single version, and the versions on the two discs of the new release, are not only different masters but different mixes, apparently.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Eno remix?
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
My mistake; Eno called it "the vaguest song ever" but never remixed it, as such.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Eno's favourite song ever, iirc
― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 12:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mouthy, I can't help but feel saddened by your blog post. "So far I’ve not really “listened” to the new versions of Loveless." I mean, I hear digital glitches on records all the time. I once sat in on a session where the masterer was using a pencil tool to physically correct the waveform, drawing over the spikes of the glitch. I just can't really get too bent out of shape about such tiny problems.
― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 13:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
is there an odd squeak 47 seconds into You Made Me Realise too? or have i just never heard it before?
― koogs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Poxen, why's that make you sad? All I mean is that I'd been doing other things whilst they were on in the background up to that point. I played them back much louder yesterday, and, unsurprisingly, totally didn't notice the glitch in What You Want (which is totally obvious if you're listening for it in headphones).
Sometimes you want to immerse yourself in a record, especially one like Loveless, and soak in every detail and nuance and float away inside your headphones or in front of your speakers. On those occasions, glitches that are errors can totally bust you out of the zone. And really awful compression / limiting / clipping just prevent you ever being able (or wanting) to do that in the first place.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
(that YMMR glitch is from the eps btw. can't remember if it's on anything else.)
― koogs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
WHAT makes me sad, I guess, is that the response in listening that I've read, here and elsewhere, has been more along the lines of "combing through the audio landscape" instead of engaging with the musical material. I guess it's to be expected considering how familiar this record is to you (or me or anybody). But nevertheless it's frustrating to read "boo: glitches / mislabeling" and "boo: why did it take Kevin so long" instead of "yay: Loveless".
I hope you don't take it as a criticism, I love your audiophile-style.
― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
well the whole point of these reissues/remasters is that they are supposed to improve on the listening experience. That's why they are asking people to pay extra money for music they likely already have.
― skip, Thursday, 10 May 2012 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yesterday afternoon's listen was totally YAY LOVELESS. I should've got that across better!
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
"Improve upon the listening experience", I suppose. But this is such a digital record, with the guitars run through MidiVerbs and recorded to DA88... Even Kevin, in the P4K interview, presents the digital remaster as both definitive and unchanged, only corrected to 0dB.
And I get it, and my "sad" is generated more out of frustration that one of my favourite bands has released three (four?) new songs in the last TWENTY YEARS, and here we are saying "well, if he's such a perfectionist, then why ___?" I'm mostly excited about the unreleased tracks
― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
I doubt I will ever play the CD2 though
― Mark G, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
CD2, as in the mislabelled CD1?
I have to say I prefer the fuller sound on the new master from the analog tapes.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm buying this today! I'm excited, I'm skeptical too.
― poxen, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:41 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is there much in the way of sleeve notes in the 'Loveless'/'Isn't Anything' remasters - I've only got 'EP's 88-91' for now and as already covered that's short on sleeve notes. I ask because was one of the excuses for the delay not "Kevin's still writing the sleeve notes", or had the dog basically eaten his homework?
― michaellambert, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
was nothing in my loveless.
― koogs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
There are no sleeve notes that I've noticed thus far! Think there's an insert with the EPs that I've not looked at.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
Aye, the EPs insert is just a reproduction of the original sleeves and some pictures.
― michaellambert, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
Would have been nice to have some basic details about what releases the tracks were from, but aside from that I'm happy just to have all those tracks, only had the 'Tremelo EP' prior to now.
― michaellambert, Thursday, 10 May 2012 18:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
that info is on the reproductions of the back of the sleeves.
― koogs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 19:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
True. Nothing about the non-EP tracks though. I still think it's nicely put together.
― michaellambert, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like seeing the art without the text. have also just noticed that the reproductions are of the 12" artwork not the cd artwork. not keen on the size though - half and inch bigger than normal cds = storage problems.
and that glitch i mentioned above is also on my original cd ep so it's not new, i just never noticed it before. does sound odd though.
― koogs, Thursday, 10 May 2012 20:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
I like that it's a pretty sturdy card gatefold, but the size is a little awkward.
― michaellambert, Thursday, 10 May 2012 21:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
The lack of sleeve notes makes the albums seem more contemporary.
― Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2012 06:28 (1 year ago) Permalink
Were you sitting in the marketing meeting?
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 11 May 2012 06:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
On a less facetious note, I always thought the band were very timelessly dressed / coiffed on the sleeve of Isn't Anything; plain t-shirts and shaggy hair could put them anywhere from 1966 to now.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 11 May 2012 06:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Well exactly.
― Mark G, Friday, 11 May 2012 08:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
does anyone have any secret knowledge about when the remasters will see a vinyl release?
― phantompenguin, Sunday, 13 May 2012 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
it was just "in a few months" i think. hope that's encouraging!
― blossom smulch (schlump), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
He said that in 1992.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 13 May 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
You know, the sense I'm getting is that anyone who has the EPs and the original albums doesn't really need this new one. Am I wrong?
― dlp9001, Sunday, 13 May 2012 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
You are.
I amazed myself by listening to the long version of 'Glider' as opposed to ignoring it in favour of the a-side 'remix' of 'Soon'. Plus the "untitled"'s and the 3 new tracks. You need the e.p. set, yes...
― Mark G, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Chart watch: The ep collection made 33, which is alright I reckons...
― Mark G, Sunday, 13 May 2012 22:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Do double albums still count each sale twice?
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 14 May 2012 05:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
was that not just a US thing?
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Monday, 14 May 2012 05:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
No I think it counted over here too. But I might be wrong.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 14 May 2012 07:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's not something I recognise.
Marcello to thread!
― Mark G, Monday, 14 May 2012 08:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, EPs #33, Loveless #50, Isn't Anything #61.
― Michael Jones, Monday, 14 May 2012 09:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
The EPs reissue is a must buy I'd say. Even if you've got most of the vinyl there are some good rarities.
― Ima Skim Read That Bitch (Doran), Monday, 14 May 2012 10:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm really, really into this remaster of Isn't Anything!And I don't hear the famous "I Only Said" digital glitch, hmm.
― poxen, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
Re: the "Loveless" analog remaster vs. the digital one.
Although the mastered-to-tape version sounds richer to my ears, less "early days" digital conversion, the mix is thrown off. The drum machines on "To here knows when" (hats) and "Sometimes" (kick) are mixed to perfection on the DAT master, i.e. barely audible but still running the track. Mastering to analog makes them inaudible, or at least, too low in the mix.
― poxen, Monday, 14 May 2012 14:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
Are you taking into account the CDs are printed the wrong way around?
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 14 May 2012 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
I converted CD into WAV and onto a hard drive. I didn't notice which was which. To distinguish "tape" vs. "ADAT", I'm using my ears / comparing to the WAVs of the original CD I bought in 1998.
I don't hear the digital glitch! Really! I've listened in every possible way, studio monitors, monitor headphones, on both CDs. Hmm.
― poxen, Monday, 14 May 2012 21:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
And I don't hear the famous "I Only Said" digital glitch, hmm.
I thought it was the famous "What You Want" glitch?
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Another critical error is in the "1/2 inch analogue tape" remaster: there is an ugly digital transfer glitch approximately 2:46 into "What You Want", during the "I do, I do..." bit. It's prominent and ugly, audible (yuck! through headphones) and visible in a spectral view. This error was also present in the 2008 leak of the analogue tape variant, so Kevin/Sony has had (at least) 4 years to fix this.
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Monday, 14 May 2012 21:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Oh, well there it is. Now I hear it.
― poxen, Monday, 14 May 2012 23:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
Finally ordered these from Amazon UK last night, now just waiting for them to get here.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 02:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
You don't need headphones to hear that glitch in 'What You Want', it was pretty glaring when played through my computer monitor's speakers. Reminds me a bit of the famous glitch on Meat Puppets II.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 07:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
You know what? I am resisting looking for it, because when I do I shall hear it forever. A bit like Liam gallagher's backing vocals on that Echo and the Bunnymen single.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 08:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
I heard it when i was specifically listening for it with headphones; I didn't notice it when I played it LOUD through SPEAKERS and ROCKED OUT later on.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 08:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
ts: the glitch vs the deathchord.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 08:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
there is a brown note at 3:16 in soon
― caek, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 10:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
So basically, there's absolutely no reason to buy to new edition of "Loveless," right? It's just a louderized version of the old one, more or less? I haven't seen anything that's really indicated the "analog" version is terribly better/superior.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's not like the Beatles or Sly Stone remasters, but I'm very glad I've got it.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
I thankfully stopped myself from shelling out $26 or whatever for this.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, that's a fair bit to shell out for, i'll grant yz
― Mark G, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
The digital remaster is just a louder version of the original master, but to my ears the new remaster from original tapes has a fuller sound, with much less empahsis on the mid-range, and some boost on the bass.
At the moment there is the glitch problem on that one track though.
I will buy it if they release the analogue version on vinyl, but then I sold my CD and vinyl copies of Loveless a while ago when I saw prices were quite high for first editions.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
Basically you can re-create this remaster by taking the original CDs you bought, ripping them to wave, and changing the volume. Or skip that and just change the volume on your stereo.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
Don't you wish you could go back to August 2007 and let everyone on the thread know that the remasters are gonna be meh?
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
You can also recreate the OTHER Loveless remaster by asking Sony for the original tapes who will say they are lost, wait for several years, get in touch with Scotland Yard…
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 15:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
The "Isn't anything" remaster is significantly different, the EPs too.
― poxen, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Reminds me a bit of the famous glitch on Meat Puppets II.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:46 AM
whats the meat puppets 2 glitch
― am0n, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 20:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
there's a big spike in the wave form shaped like a middle finger
― bark ruffalo (latebloomer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:58 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/loveless-reissue.php
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
Some funny stuff in there:•On the second disc, mastered from the original half-inch analogue tapes, we can hear for the first time that the record's intricate feedback layers and inimitable swirls of tremolo-gliding guitar were digital mastering errors and My Bloody Valentine was actually a workmanlike third-wave ska band.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
man, they really did make a good album that one time, huh?
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeh, Isn't Anything is awesome
― zappi, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 22:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
Mine just arrived from Amazon.co.uk. Took a little longer than usual (8 days).
― Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 23:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
I need these... Dammit. I just forked over $50 a few months ago for the original Creation pressing of Loveless on LP. (Ned, that's a funny-ass piece; and Bilinda sure is swoonworthy in that photo.)
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 15 May 2012 23:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
i used to think the Isn't Anything is as Good as Loveless claim was borderline challopsy, but these days I really believe it. Isn't Anything isn't as consistent as Loveless, but the peaks are higher, I think. (When You Wake) You're Still in a Dream is flabbergasting. It's so, so good.
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Tuesday, 15 May 2012 23:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
i don't know that it isn't as consistent. i guess it isn't as consistent in tone? or as 'cohesive', maybe, what with loveless being just like one big pie. but isn't anything has that perfect pairing of the thrashy, moody stuff & the spacy moody stuff.
but yeah being able to non challopsingly claim that IA is as crucial as loveless is important & a sign of maturity & wisdom
― blossom smulch (schlump), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
There's a glitch - maybe a physical warp - on the original SST master tape during 'Climbing' (I think it's the second verse?). When Derrick Bostrom remastered it for the reissues at the end of the '90s there wasn't much he could do about it, as far as I recall. So in it stayed. There's nothing about it in the liner notes.
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
"What You Want" 2m46s glitch clearly audible on Spotify (where it's labelled CD1 (2006 DAT), as per the erroneous packaging, *and*, semi-amusingly, both Loveless and Isn't Anything are listed as "2008").
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
Definitely prefer Isn't Anything. A lot of Loveless I just find kind of listless and annoying, I get especially irritated by those repetitive synthy parts on When You Sleep and I Only Said.
― Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
Awwwww.... listening to Off Your Face for the first time in years. I should get the EPs 1988-91. Got 17/24ths of it on vinyl but...what the hell.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 09:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah re-listening to the EPs has totally re-ignited my love for Drive It All Over Me - scrabbly drums, dirty bass, sweet sweet melody. It's like some sort of lovely hybrid of the Shop Assistants and World Dom.
― Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
Actualy maybe it's the grotty bass playing that I miss most on Loveless.
― Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
I was biting my tongue all the way through that Thorpe article. Lost my shit completely when he started talking about tremolo arms.
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
'When You Sleep' is definitely my least-liked track, it just sounds like generic college rock to me. I love the sampler emulation of tremelo-bending in 'I Only Said' though.
Wasn't most of the rhythm section on Loveless Shields playing and sequencing? I would love to hear a version with Colm and Debbie playing their parts.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, it's all Shields on Loveless.
When You Wake... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When You Sleep
― Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
No More Sorry still chilling in a way nothing else they've done is.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
That sinister edge is something else they left behind, alas no more knife-wielding girls on their record covers.
― Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
No More Sorry is the track that first drew me in to this band, I can't think of anything anyone has done like it.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
That song is not a million miles away from some AR Kane stuff e.g. WOGS, but they don't quite have the same multi-tracked fast strumming thing going on:
― Goodbye 20th Centipede (NickB), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
AR Kane also had a thing for young women with knives too.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 12:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
The closest I've ever been able to describe the tone of the instruments in No More Sorry is of an orchestra tuning up in a cathedral with roadworks going on outside. I think the whole mood is just so bleak, dark, unsettling, menacing and odd.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 13:13 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's all about the absence of body, isn't? Just the returns of the FX, not the source.
― Michael Jones, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 14:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
I don't think IA is any better or worse than an Eric's Trip record on its own, but taken as a sketch for Loveless it's breathtaking. It's as if they identified all the human elements of IA-- "sexy" lyrics, Colm's juvenile drumming, distinguishable guitars, Sonic Youth-y dissonant chords, phrasing-- and bled them out of that record, replaced them with simpler structures, more brazen textural choices, to create something more stately.
When I first heard "Only Shallow" kick in as a teen, it seemed impenetrable. But listening to it after IA, it seems... well, simple, in a classical sort of way
― poxen, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
i like eric's trip a lot, actually, but the relationship between eric's trip and isn't anything is pretty much
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
If you can come up with a closer cousin to "Isn't Anything" than "Love Tara" I'll buy you a pizza
― poxen, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 16:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Quite ridiculous but aside from the 'a' sides I hadn't heard most of the stuff on the eps and rarities disc. I was somewhat taken aback when PE's 'Security Of The First World' beat kicked in!
― pandemic, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 17:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
listening to Off Your Face for the first time in years
Possibly my favourite track of theirs
― Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 16 May 2012 21:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Closest cousin I know of to "Isn't Anything" (which I like a lot) is Swirlies "Blondertongue Audiobaton" (which I also like a lot). Grandma pizza will be just fine.
― dlp9001, Thursday, 17 May 2012 02:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
hey guys debbie is primal scream's new bass playerhttp://www.nme.com/news/primal-scream/63501
& kevin said the new record's coming out this year on radio one. i know that isn't trustworthy but i mean at least it's well intentioned
― blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
& mbv are playing some shows in japan next year: http://www.timeout.jp/en/tokyo/event/4809/My-Bloody-Valentine
― blossom smulch (schlump), Thursday, 17 May 2012 10:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Swirlies are like the gluten-based imitation meat version of MBV so yes, you get a vegan pizza
― poxen, Thursday, 17 May 2012 11:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.nme.com/news/primal-scream/63501
Photo Gallery: Primal ScreamPhoto: Debbie Googe, pictured far left Rex Features
hmm, that's not all, btlot.
― Mark G, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
either that, or Bobby(2nd left) has suddenly got very good looking!
I was going to mention the Swirlies. If you can imagine "Isnlt anything" without the reverse reverb (and the sexiness) you've got the Swirlies' first album. BTAB - 7 / 10, IA - 10 / 10.
― Rob M Revisited, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:10 (1 year ago) Permalink
the praise for blonder tongue, which tbf has aged reasonably well, seemed so odd to me at the time, since it seemed like a major step back from the brilliance of the preceding singles..
― mexican sumner (electricsound), Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
I bought the singles comp by mistake thinking it was BTAB back in 93 so to me the album seemed a logical step forward. I know the album after with the long title gets all the praise but I couldn't get my head around it, or understand the love.
(Can't add much on the MBV reissues as my wife is giving me them at the end of the month for my birthday. Another week oif waiting won't make any difference after all this time)
― Rob M Revisited, Thursday, 17 May 2012 12:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok, today i decided £25 for the full set was too good a deal to miss, and given that i've not heard loveless for a long long time and i dont have the original cd anymore (i have the tremolo ep buried in the archive, but again, unheard in years), i succumbed to the urge.
before the music hits the deck, the main thing is that i love the packaging.
if you ask me, the heavy duty large cardboard sleeves, and the complete lack of sleevenotes totally suits the aesthetics
― mark e, Thursday, 17 May 2012 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
ok. that was way way more emotional than i ever expected.
for the last 20 years i have viewed the cult of loveless from afar never really understanding the passion.
at the time of its release, i had the cd, and had memories of me listening to it, but the swirls of noise and melody not hitting me that much.
however, an hour ago i dropped the analogue remaster on, and suddenly i was back in '91 in our scum landlord underground one room bedsit with my newly wed wife, a little boombox/portable cd player, and our whole lives excitedly ahead of us.
as each track kicked in, my head just went 'oh fuck, i love this one .. '
the cd ended up going walkabouts when a friend emigrated to aus, ending up with me forgetting this album.
due to the heavy duty emotional kickback though, it could be a while before i listen to it again.
― mark e, Thursday, 17 May 2012 17:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
I celebrated the release of the reissue today by listening to the original CD in the car. Sounded fine.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 May 2012 18:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
sueisfine
― am0n, Thursday, 17 May 2012 20:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
sueisfinesueisfinesueisfinesueissinesueifidessuisinesuicinesuicidesuicide
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:45 (1 year ago) Permalink
^shoulda been reissueisfine
xp
― mexican sumner (electricsound), Thursday, 17 May 2012 21:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
back in '91 in our scum landlord underground one room bedsit with my newly wed wife, a little boombox/portable cd player, and our whole lives excitedly ahead of us.
Really feeling this, mark.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
good call
― am0n, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:27 (1 year ago) Permalink
@bill a
yeah. it was a headf*ck too far.
given that i thought i didn't like the album, i never expected such an attachment to hit home.
― mark e, Thursday, 17 May 2012 22:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
I will always associate this album with playing Super Metroid on the SNES
― Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
Haha, I have the same connection between super r-type and computer world.
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Thursday, 17 May 2012 23:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
the remaster sounds fantastic. so much attack, and so much space around each instrument
― dayo, Friday, 18 May 2012 12:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
was never a 'big fan' (probably because I never heard it on vinyl amirite) but I am really really digging the remaster!
Orginal vinyl didn't sound very different from the CD in my opinion, and was only 1 disc so a bit of a quiet pressing. I'm hoping the new analog remaster will be spread over two discs.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 18 May 2012 13:31 (1 year ago) Permalink
From everything Shields has said lately I'd really not thin it's "meant" to be heard on vinyl.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
wat http://www.myplaydirect.com/travel-tunes/details/27422208?current_country=GB
― shaane, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:30 (9 months ago) Permalink
were the remasters any good? i'm reluctant to listen to a new version of Loveless despite the quietness of the original master.
― spazzmatazz, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:52 (9 months ago) Permalink
I would gladly pay you tuesday out of my loveless wallet for a new MBV album today
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:07 (9 months ago) Permalink
RMDE at "quietness".
The remasters from Analogue tapes sounded like an improvement to me, especially in the bass frequencies.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:18 (9 months ago) Permalink
I'm not really getting what that product is supposed to be. Like for money?
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 20:52 (9 months ago) Permalink
for notes! HAHAHAHAHA
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:16 (9 months ago) Permalink
It's for Oyster travel cards and such.
― NWOFHM! Overlord (krakow), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 21:54 (9 months ago) Permalink
does the fact it chops the bottom off the m annoy anyone else? it's like the one thing they had to consider and they got it wrong.
yes, is for travelcards, hence the name TravelTunes. that blue wavy design in the back is an oyster card, (virtually) everyone in london has one.
― koogs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 08:51 (9 months ago) Permalink
Yes. Looking at some of the wallets they offer they just seem to be artist's impressions of what the cardholder might look like when they print one off.
― Stewart D or Raheem? (useless chamber), Thursday, 13 September 2012 09:26 (9 months ago) Permalink
It's a sony thing methinks, homing in on the 'fans who'll buy any old shit with their favourite band's likeness attached' market, thus:
― Supper's Burnt (PaulTMA), Thursday, 13 September 2012 10:21 (9 months ago) Permalink
― Mark G, Thursday, 13 September 2012 10:32 (9 months ago) Permalink
that said, it's £6 and looks like it comes with digital copy of the double cd... (7.49 on amazon.co.uk)
― koogs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 11:11 (9 months ago) Permalink
This is how they'll save the music industry for sure.
― Evan, Thursday, 13 September 2012 13:26 (9 months ago) Permalink
I have never heard of a "travel card" before. They're credit-card sized right?
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:00 (9 months ago) Permalink
yes. http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/14836.aspx
― koogs, Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:06 (9 months ago) Permalink
It's interesting though that they're marketed as travel wallets and not credit wallets or just card wallets. So I take it their ubiquity extends beyond major metro areas?
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:21 (9 months ago) Permalink
Also yes I know exactly what those things are; quite a brainfart to not remember
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 13 September 2012 14:22 (9 months ago) Permalink
So I take it their ubiquity extends beyond major metro areas?
London has a lot of ppl in it
― ┐(´ー｀)┌ (sic), Friday, 14 September 2012 00:37 (9 months ago) Permalink
Well sure but it's like making something that can fit credit cards and marketing it as a MetroCard holder to appeal to New Yorkers
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 14 September 2012 01:40 (9 months ago) Permalink
you use an Oyster a lot more times daily than a credit card!
(when I've been in London I just stick it in my actual wallet and wave that at the detectors though; I got given a free Keeping Up With The Kardashians one somewhere last time, which didn't induce me to switch)
― ┐(´ー｀)┌ (sic), Friday, 14 September 2012 01:54 (9 months ago) Permalink
You do?? That is crazy, I use my debit card like several times a day.
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 14 September 2012 02:03 (9 months ago) Permalink
nerds need to step up and invent a single card that does everything so I can start collecting travel wallets.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 14 September 2012 02:44 (9 months ago) Permalink
I feel like a srsly corny bastard, but I bought one of the travel pass holders (despite already having the reissues on CD...), and it seems like a perfectly serviceable piece of plastic and the band name is not cut off irl. In my defence, I'd been reduced to taping my original travel pass holder together with tape and it was on its last legs in terms of serviceability. But yeah, some shame here.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Thursday, 20 September 2012 17:58 (9 months ago) Permalink
It's OK. I have a Julian Cope belt buckle.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 20 September 2012 19:00 (9 months ago) Permalink
^ provisionally jealous dependent on design
― ┐(´ー｀)┌ (sic), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:46 (9 months ago) Permalink
It is this design...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JULIAN-COPE-Battle-ye-not-monsters-PIC-DISC-12-/400186803298
...on a thick round copper buckle.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 20 September 2012 22:20 (9 months ago) Permalink
(a Nietzsche quote. yikes.)
― koogs, Friday, 21 September 2012 09:16 (8 months ago) Permalink
yeah, my nation underground was a low point for him. still, it's a nice belt buckle.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 21 September 2012 14:47 (8 months ago) Permalink
lol yeah, I am v happy without that in my life
(Charlotte Anne is a good 3/5 of a choon and the Drew Carey theme cover is cute but...)
― ┐(´ー｀)┌ (sic), Friday, 21 September 2012 16:10 (8 months ago) Permalink
the crazy farm animal EP was the first sign of what was soon to follow though.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 21 September 2012 16:20 (8 months ago) Permalink
new album by the end of the year. full quote from shields:"Yes, we should have a new album available by the end of 2012. I just need to record it!"
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:18 (7 months ago) Permalink
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/nov/07/my-bloody-valentine-new-album
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 16:26 (7 months ago) Permalink
Four more years! Four more years!
― shaane, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 17:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
Shields then asked: "Have you seen me guitar anywhere? Could've sworn it was right around here somewhere..."
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 17:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
...just got to mix it and it'll be out shortly after that...
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 17:18 (7 months ago) Permalink
new album out tomorrow!
― Hyper Rescue Troop (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, March 21, 2011 7:17 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Force Boxman (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 17:41 (7 months ago) Permalink
naively psyyyyyched
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 17:51 (7 months ago) Permalink
At this point i don't really care. We have "Loveless", we have "Isn't Anything". If you really want more MBV then you have all those EPs and rare singles and stuff. Unless they've been performing great new material on tours and it has been blowing minds, it seems like a new MBV is pretty much set up to disappoint.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 18:04 (7 months ago) Permalink
Hopefully there will be enough time passed that it will be different enough to be interesting even if it doesn't stand up to that period.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 19:41 (7 months ago) Permalink
ok, i disputed this with someone closer the source, and the word is that it really is going to happen.
i still reserve the right to not believe a word etc ..
but who knows, i mean, didn't i read somewhere that kevin is no longer helping out with the new david holmes produced primal scream album ?
so, after all, what else has he got to do ..
― mark e, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 20:19 (7 months ago) Permalink
how is it not-yet-recorded but also being released in 2012?
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 20:39 (7 months ago) Permalink
maybe all the songs are written and he just needs a good weekend in the studio?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 20:40 (7 months ago) Permalink
that certainly sounds like kevin shields' basic m.o.
― i voted! (middle-class straight white male aged (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 20:40 (7 months ago) Permalink
get back to that raw in-one-take loveless working groove
― i voted! (middle-class straight white male aged (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 20:41 (7 months ago) Permalink
epic troll from Shields
― sug night (sic), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
this is seriously one of the great unanswered questions of the 21st century
― but the boo boyz are getting to (Z S), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
he is surely one of the most prominent procrastinators of all time
i believe the record is done, though i can't see how it would be possible for it to be released by the end of the year unless it's already being pressed
― biased gaffe patrol (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:48 (7 months ago) Permalink
digital release ?
― mark e, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 21:52 (7 months ago) Permalink
he just needs a good weekend in the studio
Just needs a bit of luck, he's obviously had quite a few 'bad weekends' in the last, oooh, 20 years.
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 22:36 (7 months ago) Permalink
Stuff just keeps coming up. He was going to work on it on the weekend of August 29, 1998, for example, but at the last second he realized that he really needed to make a big trip to the store to pick up some hard-to-find ingredients for a big dinner party he was hosting on the 31st. And then on the 15-16 of March 2003 he was supposed to have some free time but then his Uncle made an unexpected visit and he had to show him around the city for the millionth time. "Jeez Uncle Terry, I'm trying to made a record here! Guess I'll have to work on it next weekend..." Then of course on April 9th, 2005 it started raining really hard just when he was about to head out the door to the studio....
― but the boo boyz are getting to (Z S), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 22:41 (7 months ago) Permalink
this is not just procrastinating, it's pro crastinating
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 22:48 (7 months ago) Permalink
i'm not a businessman i'm kevin shields man
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:06 (7 months ago) Permalink
he has spent large chunks of the 21st century visibly touring or playing with Primal Scream and J Mascis and My Bloody Valentine and Patti Smith tbf, he's been vastly more productive than the post-Loveless '90s
― sug night (sic), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:22 (7 months ago) Permalink
also the chinchillas
― biased gaffe patrol (electricsound), Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:34 (7 months ago) Permalink
^^^the name of the forthcoming MBV record, i believe
― tylerw, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:50 (7 months ago) Permalink
Alternately just call it FuzzBastards.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 November 2012 23:55 (7 months ago) Permalink
i hope they call it Third.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 8 November 2012 00:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
Pantsless
― shaane, Thursday, 8 November 2012 00:23 (7 months ago) Permalink
"Do You Realize (You're Not Wearing Any Pants)?"
― shaane, Thursday, 8 November 2012 00:24 (7 months ago) Permalink
Awesome. Seeing them play next Feb.
― ***** (SeekAltRoute), Thursday, 8 November 2012 02:18 (7 months ago) Permalink
Only when I sleep (in my pants)
― give me back my 200 dollars (NotEnough), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:25 (7 months ago) Permalink
Never gonna happen.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:26 (7 months ago) Permalink
you said that about the re-release...
― koogs, Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:40 (7 months ago) Permalink
(probably)
Yeah, that was him alright...
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 November 2012 11:56 (7 months ago) Permalink
― suggest butt (Pillbox), Thursday, 8 November 2012 12:27 (7 months ago) Permalink
I wonder if the fabled "slowed-down drum'n'bass" stuff will be on it. I mean doesn't that already describe "Soon" fairly accurately?
― goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 8 November 2012 23:57 (7 months ago) Permalink
Love the idea of new MBV album being their version of Neu 2.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 9 November 2012 00:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
I just hope it sounds like an early Curve record with more ethereal vocals and maybe some handclaps.
― goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 9 November 2012 00:34 (7 months ago) Permalink
& some raps by kev & colm, for sure
― suggest butt (Pillbox), Friday, 9 November 2012 00:35 (7 months ago) Permalink
i hope it sounds like ringo deathstarr
― electricsound, Friday, 9 November 2012 00:35 (7 months ago) Permalink
i'm going as the incredible hulk
― 'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Friday, 9 November 2012 00:46 (7 months ago) Permalink
serious IRL lols
― goya cézanne (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 9 November 2012 00:59 (7 months ago) Permalink
I don't think that describes Soon at all to be honest. Yes, there's a breakbeat, and er not much else. From what I've read the experiments in that area were more about catching the feeling of space, and of the half-time/double-time aspects of jungle.
― Chewshabadoo, Friday, 9 November 2012 01:20 (7 months ago) Permalink
Forget about this not happening, this just should not happen.
― calstars, Friday, 9 November 2012 02:08 (7 months ago) Permalink
― all-mod scone (sic), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:10 (7 months ago) Permalink
plenty more MBV-related srs irl lols 4 u here: Your favourite jokes about My Bloody Valentine
― suggest butt (Pillbox), Friday, 9 November 2012 02:25 (7 months ago) Permalink
hmmm tbh I'm imagining slight but familiar sketches like on the Lost in Translation OST
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 9 November 2012 14:11 (7 months ago) Permalink
"slight but familiar" is the name of that thread's dog.
― Mark G, Friday, 9 November 2012 14:33 (7 months ago) Permalink
DFA RECORDS @dfarecordsif my bloody valentine release this LP in 2012, and let the world hear what they've been hiding, DFA will give $5,000,000 to donald trump.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 05:39 (6 months ago) Permalink
lol
i would bet it's not impossible but fairly unlikely, unless every part of the chain is dropping everything else they're doing (heck, i would)
― site nuances (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 05:42 (6 months ago) Permalink
I'm guessing Bandcamp is not an option, or are they out of any contracts after the reissues?
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 09:20 (6 months ago) Permalink
out of contract iirc. their manager should put it out on rocket girl
― site nuances (electricsound), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 09:21 (6 months ago) Permalink
if vinita could swing that that label would be set. she's had a long difficult road to get to this point, but I admire her more than almost anyone in the music business.
― akm, Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:06 (6 months ago) Permalink
just technically squeaks over the line as a compliment
― absurdly pro-D (schlump), Wednesday, 21 November 2012 23:28 (6 months ago) Permalink
Live dates:
http://www.factmag.com/2012/12/06/my-bloody-valentine-announce-handful-of-uk-shows-for-2013/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 09:58 (6 months ago) Permalink
the February dates have been on sale for four or five months
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Thursday, 6 December 2012 13:34 (6 months ago) Permalink
― Twerkin in a coal mine (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:19 (6 months ago) Permalink
I'd love to believe.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 6 December 2012 21:56 (6 months ago) Permalink
http://www.mybloodyvalentine.co.uk/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:02 (6 months ago) Permalink
Says coming soon for me, is it showing something else for you?
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:03 (6 months ago) Permalink
coming soon!
last updated in 2004 iirc
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:20 (6 months ago) Permalink
Lol. You guys.
― Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:32 (6 months ago) Permalink
The release hinges on the idiosyncratic work patterns and decisions of Shields, Googe explained. "It will definitely come out as it's pretty much finished," she said. "I mean, it's impossible to talk about time with Kevin, but in terms of percentage-wise, he's got one more track he wants to do then that's it. Everything else is recorded."
So one more track? That puts the album out around ... 2019?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:56 (6 months ago) Permalink
track is an hour long
― Twerkin in a coal mine (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:07 (6 months ago) Permalink
track is an hourtwenty years long
― Twerkin in a coal mine (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:08 (6 months ago) Permalink
Shields will be playing it once, live, in real time. It'll end when he dies.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:14 (6 months ago) Permalink
that one more track was finished since that interview iirc
― site nuances (electricsound), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:23 (6 months ago) Permalink
There's always just one more track.
Anyway, now we get to the mixing and sequencing stage, which I'm sure will go lickity split.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:57 (6 months ago) Permalink
one ... more ... track
― tylerw, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:59 (6 months ago) Permalink
^chinchilla fur
― shaane, Friday, 7 December 2012 02:13 (6 months ago) Permalink
whoaaa
http://imwithpleb.tumblr.com/post/37570413083/leaked-track-from-the-upcoming-my-bloody-valentine
― how can you masturbate in front of a baby with nuclear arms (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 03:57 (6 months ago) Permalink
daamn
amazing sounds on this
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:12 (6 months ago) Permalink
you guys are assholes
― jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:20 (6 months ago) Permalink
sounds more like GBV
― flared bass (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 04:57 (6 months ago) Permalink
AWESOME
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:08 (6 months ago) Permalink
STOP IT EVERYONE RIGHT NOW
― jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:15 (6 months ago) Permalink
Nice cover!
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:16 (6 months ago) Permalink
poor Stevie doesn't have Flash on his computer :(
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 05:56 (6 months ago) Permalink
You know as soon as we get a track listing on the new album that there will be a emergency pre-covers ILX comp.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 07:46 (6 months ago) Permalink
acoustic instruments only.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 07:56 (6 months ago) Permalink
A capella
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:44 (6 months ago) Permalink
wow, early reviews of a leak coming in! kinda o_O but it's mbv so i guess it makes sense
― dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:51 (6 months ago) Permalink
"***** - Brilliant...like a chorus of vacuums sucking out your soul" - MOJO
― dexpresso (Z S), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 14:53 (6 months ago) Permalink
"***** - "Not since the heyday of Inspiral Carpets have we heard music this stirring" -NME
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 15:24 (6 months ago) Permalink
* - "This sucks" - SPIN
― jawn valjawn (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:08 (6 months ago) Permalink
Just sub in Kevin Shields and other proper nouns as needed here:
http://www.avclub.com/articles/chuck-klosterman-reviews-chinese-democracy,2539/
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:16 (6 months ago) Permalink
On the official Myspace page
[/q]My Bloody Valentineplayed a song
Play NowPlayPlay NextAdd to queueDoes Your Mother Know
by Charley Stoneon it's by Abba & the White Stripesthe inhouse music, Javier Zoe tonatiuh Ascencio Alcantara and Josh Valdez liked this.[/q]
― Mark G, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 16:21 (6 months ago) Permalink
only ever gonna post huh til this thing is out but
http://www.facebook.com/mybloodyvalentine/posts/383000051790898
huh
― kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 06:08 (5 months ago) Permalink
it took them like three years to release an album that they'd already released, so, you know, delays, but i am kinda guiltily feeling this now
― kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 06:09 (5 months ago) Permalink
leaked track!
AMAZEBALLS
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Thursday, 27 December 2012 18:50 (5 months ago) Permalink
...goddamnit, electricsound.
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Thursday, 27 December 2012 18:54 (5 months ago) Permalink
― electricsound, Thursday, 27 December 2012 21:19 (5 months ago) Permalink
YOU BEAT ME TO POSTING MY AWEXOME ILM MBV TROLL
*internet enemies for lyfe*
― *rad hug eomticon* (Control Z), Thursday, 27 December 2012 21:21 (5 months ago) Permalink
there is some flurry about one track featuring "psychedelic bagpipes"
this has driven me into such a fit that i am now continually searching everything my bloody valentine in every possible venue i can think of, up to 3 times a day. funny thing is, considering UK/US time, any news release will likely happen while i'm asleep. i want to fucking hear this.
― kelpolaris, Friday, 28 December 2012 07:00 (5 months ago) Permalink
Bagpipes are naturally plenty psychedelic.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 28 December 2012 17:38 (5 months ago) Permalink
that leaked track is bullshit
― akm, Friday, 28 December 2012 18:03 (5 months ago) Permalink
as someone who listened to his dad practice bagpipes on a daily basis for a few years, i regret to say that it is possible to play the bagpipes psychedelically :(
― "reading specialist" (Z S), Friday, 28 December 2012 18:04 (5 months ago) Permalink
xpost are you serious?!
― "reading specialist" (Z S), Friday, 28 December 2012 18:05 (5 months ago) Permalink
i regret to say that it is possible to play the bagpipes psychedelically :(
this should have been UNpsychedelically! or non. or whatever is bad
oh it was a joke
― akm, Friday, 28 December 2012 18:08 (5 months ago) Permalink
that bullshit track is leaked
― ♨ (am0n), Friday, 28 December 2012 18:49 (5 months ago) Permalink
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 6 January 2013 08:54 (5 months ago) Permalink
So it was by the end of this year, right?
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 6 January 2013 11:08 (5 months ago) Permalink
The end of a year, yes.
― Yo Leon, what's this all about? (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 6 January 2013 11:51 (5 months ago) Permalink
oh hello
My Bloody Valentine have announced a London warm up show on 27th Jan at The Electric in Brixton, this date runs prior to their Asian dates in February. Tickets for this date are on sale now.
― Crackle Box, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:02 (5 months ago) Permalink
lolhttps://www.facebook.com/mybloodyvalentine/posts/383000051790898
― shaane, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:11 (5 months ago) Permalink
― Yo! MTV La Tengo (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 19:13 (5 months ago) Permalink
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 27 January 2013 13:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
Er. I'm seeing this lot play out tonight. People are saying there might be some new songs.
― kraudive, Sunday, 27 January 2013 15:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
I managed to get a couple of tickets on Friday night, so will be there. Personally I want them to only play new material, but knowing my luck it will all be old stuff.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 27 January 2013 16:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well. One new song and shit sound system. Enjoyed the classics, but really wanted more new songs.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
i heard there were 2 new songs
and the album is coming out in 2 or 3 days
OR IS THAT NOT RELEVANT?
― dojo, Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
I just assumed from Chewshabadoo's post that there was one new song and a shitty Operation Ivy cover.
― MarkoP, Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
Shields mumbled something about this week and the album, but the sounds was so muffled I couldn’t be sure. First song was new, rest were classics.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 27 January 2013 23:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
How was the new song?
― baby beluga (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
“MAYBE 2–3 days”
Re: new song, I couldn’t make out the vocals and major teething problems with sound on the first few tracks. Sounded average, but hopefully the recorded version will sound better.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
Re: new song, I couldn’t make out the vocals
may i just lol
― rockism against racism (schlump), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
imagine if on wednesday kevin releases a new mbv album in flac & you download it & it sounds exactly like that
gonna go there & say i am feeling this summery monster flute jam monstrosity
― rockism against racism (schlump), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
Peter Hoskins of Sky News twitter (??!)
Peter Hoskins Peter Hoskins @PeterHoskinsSkySources tell me CD version of new #MBV album is ready but agree has to be a download launch if to happen in 2-3 days as suggested by Shields
Peter Hoskins Peter Hoskins @PeterHoskinsSkyMost interesting thing I now know about new #MBV album is vinyl version is good to go, which bodes very well for full release in 2-3 days
Peter Hoskins Peter Hoskins @PeterHoskinsSkyInteresting chat with people working on post-production of new #MBV album - No surprise that Kevin Shields is very exacting about mastering
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 28 January 2013 01:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
yeah it's kinda weird to know what "good to go" means re: vinyl cause it either means SECRETLY PRESSED IN HUGE NUMBERS or else theoretically can be reproduced using melted plastic
― rockism against racism (schlump), Monday, 28 January 2013 01:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
is it rly that hard to press large quantities of something w/o word getting out? Do the ppl who work at the vinyl pressing plants give that much of a shit abt mbv?
― Yo! MTV La Tengo (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 28 January 2013 03:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
lmao at 'the producer of jeff randall live' having the cutting edge news on my bloody valentine
got offered ticket to see them but not really up for it
― Why they hide the bodice under décolletage? (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Monday, 28 January 2013 04:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
that new song sounds pretty great. upbeat and almost sunny.
― miesepeter (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 28 January 2013 05:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
― rockism against racism (schlump), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:57 (4 hours ago) Permalink
almost pooped from the very real hilarity of this
i dig this new song, if it isn't a little flat. it mostly feels like the third, cast-off piece to what otherwise would've been the trilogy of repeat-based synth-driven songs "when you sleep" and "i only said"
― kelpolaris, Monday, 28 January 2013 05:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
The sound was pretty terrible last night. They got it right in the end but I was pretty much exhausted by volume to get too into it. I took "2-3 days" to be a joke. Seems to be Shields's stock answer these days. New LP after 20 years? Oh yeah, tomorrow mate.
― kraudive, Monday, 28 January 2013 10:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
One impression I got was how miserable 90% of the audience looked. I don't think I've been to a large gig for about four years (I prefer going to small gigs and clubs), but most people just seemed to be standing motionless with a blank expression - are they all like this these days, or is it just an MBV crowd.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 28 January 2013 10:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
if it's a joke: 232 new answers by the end of the weekif it's for real: 2320 new answers by the end of the week
― nostormo, Monday, 28 January 2013 10:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
if it's for real and it's good...if it's for real and it's shit...
― nostormo, Monday, 28 January 2013 10:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
...clap your hands.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 28 January 2013 14:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
but most people just seemed to be standing motionless with a blank expression
did they at least cross their arms
― Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 28 January 2013 16:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
also: new album out tomorrow!
most people just seemed to be standing motionless with a blank expression
Ideally they would be staring down at their shoes.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 28 January 2013 17:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
That is the band
― Mark G, Monday, 28 January 2013 17:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
Either he's a masochst or shields knows the overwhelming power of his ability to drive indie nerds fires alight with no more than a few syllables, utterances. Sometimes I imagine he totally regrets that single and only instance in which he promised there might be a new album.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 05:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
Anyone have a PR contact for this?
Not for me but an actual music critic on my FB feed asked.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 2 February 2013 18:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
n*dr*gg✧✧✧@allr✧✧✧.c✧✧
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 2 February 2013 18:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
― how's life, Saturday, 2 February 2013 18:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
I would like to deny everything, aside from the truth.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 19:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wow who would've thought KS was telling the truth about the new album being out in 3 days? It's so good! j/k
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 February 2013 19:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
the leak i have is pretty awesome
― am0n, Saturday, 2 February 2013 19:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
Sounds like a vacuum cleaner to me, think it's probably fake, japaneseSadface
― Z S, Saturday, 2 February 2013 20:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
My eyebrow, it is arched:
We are preparing to go live with the new album/website this evening. We will make an announcement as soon as its up.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
they should have waited until april fools day to do this
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
"He lost the plot completely. Everybody became the enemy. He lost his friends and he lost the band. He just locked himself away in his big house. Then, finally, nobody wanted to get in. I went to the house once with Bobby [Gillespie] and there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages, about 20 of them, all over the room, with barbed wire everywhere. It was definitely meltdown."
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
Definitely an EP out this year, because that'll be finished within a month. The album I can't really say, because one thing I've learnt is that what I think seems to bear little resemblance to reality.
-- Kevin Shields to me. In 1996.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
wow here it is www.geocities.com/mbv
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
gonna lmao when Lucy pulls the football away and Charlie browns luxurious main and purple tie flap about in the wind
― pull up to the shrink with my feelings missing (m bison), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
mane
― pull up to the shrink with my feelings missing (m bison), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
sry Ned
It's lovely that something maybe might happen. I TRUST NOTHING.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
I trust a Facebook announcement more than an offhanded comment made at a concert in response to an audience member.
― MarkoP, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't even trust that!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
site is definitely changing, since in the past three minutes it went from "new site coming soon" to an apache error
― akm, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
If they actually put up "TURN BACK YOU POXY FULE" I will take back everything.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
Only a global consensus of seismologists would really be reliable at this point.
― jim, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
a pre-order for the album due out 2015
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well we got art:
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
anticipate massive server crash if they have this for download. they should just stick it on piratebay
― akm, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
Also:
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
lol mbv
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
doesn't look like they spent 20 years on the cover art
― akm, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
windows 95 desktop art
― pull up to the shrink with my feelings missing (m bison), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
should have waited till Valentines Day, obv
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
if you gave him another week he would have decided to re-record the whole thing
― akm, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
maybe kev has been holed away for so long rip van winkle style that he didn't realize 20 years had past
― pull up to the shrink with my feelings missing (m bison), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
spotify link?
― do you even frogbs? (cozen), Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, February 2, 2013 4:35 PM
i expect u to go on a hardman moderator tear thru all of ilm when it doesn't drop
― am0n, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
Fuck no. I'll let that happen for those whose faith has for some reason not yet been bruised.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 21:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
It was meant to be fucking GREEN I decided that years ago :(
― 'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ned, um, when/if we get titles, yeah..
I know it's a bit soon, the Bowie one's not even out yet, but....
― Mark G, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
He's been projecting the new album in ever-decreasing increments of time. At first it was years, then months, and a few weeks ago it was days, and now tonight. The world will end with the album being released in 0.0000000001 milliseconds.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
xpost -- haha, you know...
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
I still find it hard to believe that this will really happen, but fuck that. Optimism or bust.
― winnebago taco, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
It has to be 'tonight' already over in England, right? Y'all listening to this yet?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
Anyway I for one think that this news coming on Groundhog's Day doesn't mean this is directed at me at all in the slightest and...um...wait...
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's tomorrow in England innit? Maybe they mean Sunday night. Shit.
― how's life, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
Nah, it's still only 10:20 on Saturday
― Iain Mew (if), Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
Hahaha!
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
I really can't wait for tonight's album's follow up.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
how many pants would immediately be thrown into the laundry if it was a double album?
― Z S, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
Didn't Ned once say he would run naked through the streets of Liverpool if MBV released a new album?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
Disgusting.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
can't vouch for the provenance but my buddy just sent me this link to the first track: here
― 乒乓, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
Kevin Shields: "I only said what you want"
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
(dedicated to markers, obviously)
I'm sort of sad there won't be an ILX pre-cover of this. Maybe he will only release a tracklisting.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
There's going to be a lot of disappointment if it's a pre-order for release in a couple of months.
― michaellambert, Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
There's going to be a lot of disappointment if it's a pre-order for release in a couple of months. Years.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
Kwik Poll MBV Album
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
Reading through various places ppl seem to be "Oh the hype on this is so built up, it's going to have to be AMAZING to beat Loveless" but really i think by now as long as it sounds somewhat like MBV and has droney/spacey guitar stuff, people will love it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
holy shit
― 乒乓, Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
This waiting game sucks.
― MarkoP, Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://www.mybloodyvalentine.org/
IT'S ON!
― Mark G, Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
The service is unavailable.Server is too busy
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
WL;RJ;OIQURP2mxrpo9UP9FX2U
Already crashed of course.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
welp
― the beers for lunch (electricsound), Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
got off the site everyone. its my turn.
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Saturday, 2 February 2013 23:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
details http://i.imgur.com/IoAdSxO.png
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
Right, it seems I am the only person that can see the new homepage:
This is the official my bloody valentine website and online shop. The new album is available to buy now. The album is available in three formats: 180 gram vinyl + CD + digital download of your choice CD + digital download of your choice digital download of your choice The digital download will be available in the following file types: 16bit 44.1 K WAV file (cd quality) 320kbps MP3 24bit 96 K WAV file The price of the digital download only is the same regardless of the file quality and size. The vinyl has been recorded, mixed and mastered in analogue. It is manufactured on 180 gram vinyl and comes in a gatefold sleeve with the CD in a card wallet. The vinyl will be limited due to manufacturing restrictions. The CD comes in a gatefold card sleeve. The vinyl and CD artwork is currently being finished and each format will have slightly different but similar artwork to the download artwork that will be attached to your download (pictured in main pack-shot on right of screen).
So there you go..
― Mark G, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
MY BLOODY VALENTINE BROKE THE INTERNET!!!
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
Sounds good...when it finally works.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
I hope when this finally reloads it's not a Yahoo! Group
― 'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Server is too busy. Check again in 22 years."
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
OMG!!!! Can't believe this is happening. It would make my year/life if it's good.
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
even when it's out, it's not out
― MaresNest, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
Looks like the site's been taken down again? Getting a 403 again.
― michaellambert, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well what did they expect!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
Please step away from the website!
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
I wonder if anyone got as far as clicking the BUY button? And did they get a download link immediately?
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
so many amusing & surprising things about this all. the record is called m b v. the artwork is still being finished.
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
mirror site
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
1. she found now
2. only tomorrow
3. who sees you
4. is this and yes
5. if i am
6. new you
7. in another way
8. nothing is
9. wonder 2
― djh, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
haha they thought they could buy a server space out in the country so they wouldn't be hounded by crazed fans
― pull up to the shrink with my feelings missing (m bison), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
My calculations suggest it only took him 2.444 years to complete each of these 9 tracks.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
The track listing is below. Pls note, all track titles to be written in lower case.
fuck any magazine or blog that indulges them this way btw
― ima go (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
apparently $18 for the vinyl-combo btw
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
i wonder how many saturday nights are being ruined by people desperately waiting to order this thing?
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
o actually: $30.50 for vinyl with CD and digital download.
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
haha YES IN A MINUTE DARLING I JUST HAVE TO
RT @vishnevetsky I have to say, this is MBV's best work in at least 20 years.
― "Rob is startled, this is straight up gangster" (R Baez), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
a return to formally releasing records
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
a return to forming sound with instruments
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
april fools!!!
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
"connectivity issues during the download."
Or, you know, to just access the site.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
― MaresNest, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
haha
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
That album art is so shitty. And yet so cool.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
amazing.
― piscesx, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
maresnest wins
― johnny hit and run paul lynde (get bent), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
403 - Forbidden: Access is denied.You do not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials that you supplied.
This is the most ambient MBV album i have ever heard.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
Are those the lyrics?
Someone recommended this on fb: http://www.pagereboot.com/?url=http://www.mybloodyvalentine.org/&refresh=9
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
reality check dogg
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
320kbps torrent already up (note: pirating is bad, buy the album and support the band!)
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
That's a picture of the Elbow box set
― 'Separate Lives', by Phil Collins & Marilyn Manson (PaulTMA), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://newalbumreleases.net/52536/bullet-for-my-valentine-temper-temper-2013/
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
lmbo dayoooooooo
― pull up to the shrink with my feelings missing (m bison), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm sure I remember "event" releases being more exciting in the pre-internet era
― it's all fuck what sit says, we'll do our own thing (Matt #2), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
Crap im having no luck.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KqRPOEa3P44#!
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
22 years, 2/2. conspiracy?
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
guys it's on Spotify holy shit
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Shields
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, February 2, 2013 7:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
spotify link: http://open.spotify.com/album/2rdEDYy8l2S1BPcEIU5JRM
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
That would sound amazing actually.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
Server is too busy
The irony of MBV and "too busy" hurhurrr
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
Hmm. Allegedly I'm in, but I'll wait for more than a pale purple background image first.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ah, here we go.
Actually got on the page...then clicked the "buy now" link and ended up back on "server too busy". Ah well.
― michaellambert, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
NED'S IN, FOLKS
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
xpost -- Same here. Baby steps!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-my-bloody-valentine-website-work-again/YdCY6dSx
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
Click "buy now". Server responds: "Too busy lol, back in 22 years".
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
This is the link for the CD bundle: http://www.mybloodyvalentine.org/BundleDetail.aspx?rid=138
― michaellambert, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
same. weirdly though the options for physical purchases were just 'more info', digital the only one with a 'buy now'
this is the page y'all should be shooting for btw
http://www.mybloodyvalentine.org/Catalogue.aspx
or probably it's the one after but just like it's a lil closer at least
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://www.mybloodyvalentine.org/clickheretodownloadthenewmybloodyvalentinealbum
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
What a disaster for MBV/The Internets/Etc
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
aspx wtf that's what you get using .net
― akm, Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
powered by these guys
http://www.sunshinehq.com/
kudos!
― Hermann Hesher (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 February 2013 00:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
website's back up
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
click "sales"
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
Was going to go to bed early tonight... glad I didn't!
Now you just watch me fall asleep before anyone gets to hear the damn thing.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
Buzzfeed is on dis ting. Almost makes it a shame
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
So, has anyone actually heard this yet?
― michaellambert, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
This is all just an elaborate tribute to his favorite film, Groundhog's Day, in that we will wake up to the same 403 page every morning for the next decade.
― blatherskite, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
big perp using this failed release to harvest clicks for buzzfeed using a completely contentless fluffpiece is like whiney's worst nightmare, glad he's not around to see this. could only be worse if it also had pictures of bacondogpuppies
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
Hahaha.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
Sigh
― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
Here's 12 hours of vacuum noise to play while you reload the site
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
Just got through, didn't buy the record, got two tickets for the Man Machine night tho'.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
Alleged comment somewhere in the 2,000+ post MBV Facebook thread:
"can somebody ask the radioheads to upload to their site, I'll pay like a dollar if I have to"
― Young Boy Befriends Orange, Tangy Larvae in Luxs' Early (zero of the signified), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
just while we are killing time can i say how closely this resembles a message board made mbv album so far; ridiculously elliptical song names, terrible artwork, precious use of lower case, &c.
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
m b v fanfiction
Almost had it there.
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'M ON IT! I'M ON IT!
Website as slow as Shields himself. Buy now = 403 :-(
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
What's the buy now link?
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
for me it re-directed me to http://www.mybloodyvalentine.org/Catalogue.aspx
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
aspx... wtf. Who the hell built this website?
tremendous post
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
How are you guys going to listen to it? Environment, mood changers, alone, headphones or speakers, etc?
― calstars, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ned has been suspiciously quiet for some minutes now...
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://www.last.fm/user/BeetleJuice1993
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
How are people's refresh techniques differing?
Does anyone have 15 tabs open with the page reboot robot set to 0.000001 seconds. I have been reduced to folornly prodding the button about once a minute.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
ned was put in twitter jail / he's eating dinner
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
I refresh the page with every sip o' wine. Still no ecstacy...
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
More like IS THERE ANYTHING, etc etc
― blatherskite, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
techniques like that maaaaaaay have something to do with the website crashing over and over, haha
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
I actually have thought about this more than I care to admit. Esp in re: Ned, who I assume will not be able to resist giving as-it-happens responses, which I think are basically the enemy of listening, but which are also kind of a reality of listening now.
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
I wonder if loads of Japanese dudes with Cornelius haircuts have it already and are organising a listening party in a five storey club in Shinjuku, with the extra track probably too.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
listening now
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
I can see it (but I can't hear it)
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
extra track is a backwards version of "hikari express" by the smashing pumpkins
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
haha iirc ned liveblogged the noise part of you made me realise last time they toured
i remember reading a beach boys message board before smile came out a few years ago & a guy meticulously detailing the rearrangement of his living room he'd carried out "to minimize impedence"
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), zondag 3 februari 2013 2:45 (29 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"the enemy of listening", true dat.
I will be having my new MBV on headphones, in bed.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
first track is killer, very powerful drumming!
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
you can really feel the bass
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
Excellently awful video gone up on YT starring a curly haired stoner gaze fan rambling on, calling Shields out for taking twenty years to release a record.
Couldn't take all 8 minutes of it but the guy must have been 2 when Loveless came out so go figure.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
True. Actually about out to dinner, a bunch of us are going here:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/El-Pollo-Inka/367720414490
Love Peruvian food but according to my friend Elizabeth (half-Peruvian herself) I've not had a chance to try a truly good place around LA yet.
Nah, fuck that. I've been commissioned by the Quietus to write up a 'first response' style piece (hi there Doran!) but I'm not going to post on Twitter as it happens, and hope to actually sleep on it anyway before turning it tomorrow. Would prefer to give it at least two, three listens if possible.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
tell twitter if the peruvian food has the texture of a new my bloody valentine record
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
i can see it but i can't mouthfeel it
― djembe v (electricsound), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
Depends on the quality of the lomo saltado.
Anyway I still have only just reached the digital download page so who knows when I'll actually get to buy it. Am getting the 24 bit WAV files FWIW, I'd rather not slouch with this.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
suddenly feel taunted by my debit card, which i took out of my wallet & lay on the table two hours ago, it was a more innocent time
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
Given up, going to listen to Bethany Curve all day tomorrow in protest.
― MaresNest, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
An idea...
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
HTTP Error 403.6 - Forbidden
point six
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 01:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
Maybe the server error page IS their new album?
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
403.6 means "ip address rejected"
you have been singled out
― hot slag (lukas), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
haunting, i have maybe refreshed the page four times
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
This second song is even more detailed than the first. 403.6 is a market improvement on 403
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
Sunshine HQ is going to have a PR problem.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
https://twitter.com/amoebamusic/status/297887662025609218
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
i always assumed ned would press a big red button and and out would roll an all-senses-minus-hearing-desensory tank, never used, in storage for 22 years, ready for the moment
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
Hahaha I just decided to do this due to Facebook frenzy despite not really being that into mbv and now I have a very slow download creeping across my screen
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
What's it like!
― Tá a fhios agam, nach bhfuil? (I know, right?), Friday, December 5, 2008 2:02 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
― djembe v (electricsound), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
jjjusten please cancel your partial download so some ~real fans~ can use that bandwidth
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
seriously, gtfo
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
Think I’ll set up an auto-F5 on that for their smugness
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
― MaresNest, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
Their site works just fine if you use Netscape
― van smack, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm on with it added to basket!
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
Now there's a registration page.
WEBSITE WORKS. JUST ORDERED. OMG.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
Crashed as I was typing in my Billing address :(
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
yah i'm stuck there xp
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
I registered, created an account, then got booted off. they sent me a nice thanks for registering email, though.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
I got as far as the shopping cart before seeing the latest in an ever-changing series of error messages (now it's a stark, unadorned "The service is unavailable").
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
i have never experienced anything on mybloodyvalentine.org except for 403 error
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh wait, it loaded!BUY NOW
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
"The service is unavailable."
:(
Aw man, if you haven't seen "your IP is not authorized to access this page" you're really missing out :(
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
Stalled at 55%
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
And now the whole site seems to have crashed.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
Uh it keeps not working in whole new ways.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
probably being ddosed by somebody
― djembe v (electricsound), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
Promotional code:Purchase code:
*gnashing of teeth emoticon*
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
Holy shit, torrenting it now.
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
it's just going to be this way for years
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
OK, on a torrent now…
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
― djembe v (electricsound), zondag 3 februari 2013 3:21 (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink\
HI DERE ALAN MCGEE
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
Is it in 3d?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
NYT: LEGIONS OF RABID MY BLOODY VALENTINE FANS REPEATEDLY CRASH MBV.ORG WEBSITE IN ACCIDENTAL DDoS ATTACK
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
me too. can't wait to buy the real thing, but until then
Where is this party i want to go too?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
134.23 MB
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
this fiasco is prob costing them millions of dollars
― iatee, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
134.23MBV
― zero dark (s1ocki), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
that would be a much better title
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
539 peers
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
tracker?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
847 peers
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
what.cd
thanks
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
Already tempted to start a WHERE WERE U WHEN MBV DROPPED thread.
For reference when I check this thread in a generation's time: grading absymal undergrad assignments in my room and listening to the excellent, and much more readily available, Cajual records comp.
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
damn my account has been inactive for far too long
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
Seriously, how many people are probably trying to buy this thing? Can't be more than 200,000 at the most, I'd imagine. Even that sounds high.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
I was watching the Avengers TV show and editing a graphic novel.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
PLAYING NOW
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
Starting teh listnenig
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
back to 403
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
kinda blowing my mind people are hearing this
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
Who would have thought in 1991 that the next MBV album would be given to you by a computer.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
can't believe they didn't give us enough time to make an ILX comp
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
YA DANCER!
First track reminds me of Sometimes. Second track of, well... MBV.
Never thought I'd live to see the day...
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
Trying to upload to share, but it’s going to take another 30 minutes, so you’ll probably find it before then.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
fuck
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM NEW MBV ALBUM
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
hey chewshabadoo maybe if that works out you could maybe ilxmail me maybe
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
'Who Sees Who,' sounding fucking mint.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
i've been waiting for this for 16 years
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
'Is this and yes', sounding a bit Dots and Loops.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
nice opening...
― oscar, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
Probably against the rules (have mercy, ILX), but here it is: sorry can't leave this live (mod)
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, February 3, 2013 3:52 AM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Haha, totally!
Inevitably, it's dreamy and gorgeous so far...not ear crushingly loud even at 100% volume, maybe due to the analogue tape recording technique mentioned in the notes..
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
Good work.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yes I'm on track four too! It does sound a bit like a Stereolab instrumental, crossed with their All I Need-style tracks.
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
DAER ILX: I DON'T WANT TO BE THAT GUY WHO GOT BANNED FROM ILX FOR SHARING THE NEW MBV ALBUM WHEN MBV'S WEBSITE WAS DOWN. OK THNX BYE
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
Probably against the rules (have mercy, ILX), but here it is: the new MY BLOODY VALENTINE album, FUCK YEAH!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, February 2, 2013 9:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
thx bro
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
Dots and Loops probably my favourite 'Lab period though, but this is different enough to not sound like a pastiche.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
welp. I guess this is happening.
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
― call all destroyer, Sunday, February 3, 2013 3:55 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
No sweat. Wanted to spread the love on ILM. Any no Flag Post will do
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 02:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
this is good!!
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
someone send me what cd invite plz
― akm, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ah, Rough Song from last Sunday is actually 'New You'
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
LBI <3 xxx
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
More impressions of the music, less about method of procurement pls
― calstars, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
Why would Ned go eat dinner at a time like this?
― van smack, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
cheers drunken boat! here we go!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
this is pretty heavy
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
Schlump <3
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
hazel <3
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ah, In Another Way seems to be the much hyped DnB track.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
site's back too
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
website working now. ordered vinyl!
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
Is This And Yes reminds me of Radiohead's Treefingers.
― piscesx, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
Bought my vinyl, with overpriced shipping option too. ;/
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
yeah just got through without a hitch and got vinyl and download.
― ryan, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
Hearing that the actual 320kbps release on the site is a transcode!
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
link removed plz don't (mod)
― cock chirea, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
Guys, who cares? Get dinner, report back tomorrow.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
No bass in the DnB, but melody sounding pretty good to me.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
the real download is fast as hell when the site works
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
whoo, downloading now!
― johnny hit and run paul lynde (get bent), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
'Nothing Is' sounding almost Jeff Mills. Well, as imagined by KS.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yay, finally working and download incoming. Anyway, finally should be off for dinner here soon, just waiting on my friends to come back with their car!
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
purchased & listening
― djembe v (electricsound), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
New You = Pearl by Chapterhouse!
― piscesx, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, February 3, 2013 4:12 AM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Fucking THIS! What a drums and bass rock out!
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
Worked for me. Downloading now.
― jim, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
ship's ahoy
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wonder 2 is the legendary MBVDNB to my ears.
― Jedmond, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
It’s got a very hardcore nuum chord structure.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
Okay Wonder 2 is the dnb track.
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
So happy they didn't dip their toes into dubstep tbh
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
OMG the build!!!!!
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
love "New You."
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wonder 2 = Soon 2.0. Makes sense.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
Can I just say: FUCKING WOW!
yeah New You is amazing. that's the radio-friendly one right there.
― piscesx, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
i won't believe it until i hear it.
― johnny hit and run paul lynde (get bent), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wonder 2 is definitely no Soon.
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh god can't believe this is happening
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
weird hearing these songs with an actual colm
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm getting the 24 bit 96 khz WAVs. I have the hardware. fuck you kevin shields. 1.5 gigabytes !
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
320 I downloaded very possibly a transocde, 24/96 is a major improvement to my ears. (Please note I have drunk a lot of rum)
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
maybe someone should post a download link on 77
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
downloading now ahhh!
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
fades instead of segues
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, February 2, 2013 10:29 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
maybe someone should read earlier in this thread
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
Fade ways.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
those links were modded, cad
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
fuck, i read too quick and did not see that the vinyl included the cd
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh my bad, sorry
maybe someone should post a download link on 77― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Saturday, February 2, 2013 10:29 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Plz dont do this
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
To try to get an idea before I pay for it: does this stuff sound similar to Loveless, similar to Isn't Anything-era, or like something new and distinct?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
"distinct from both"
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
Eager to know as well.
― Evan, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
― O_o-O_O-o_O (jjjusten), Saturday, February 2, 2013 10:33 PM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
cmon no one reads 77 anymore
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
much more like loveless than IA, with some new angles thrown in
― djembe v (electricsound), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well, after a shivers-accompanied first listen, this sounds like the closest possible thing to a 'mature' MBV album. It doesn't knock you out of your seat with the way the guitars stampede in out of the little interludes on Loveless. But my immediate response to the songwriting is that it's just so, so beautiful - the dreaminess is unparalled! You could also say they sound more like a real band in a room, enhanced by very detailed-'sounding' (obv. we can't know yet) overdubs and layerings, and with those newly-forceful (compared to their past two) live drums from Colm..
― Davek (davek_00), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
Additionally, nobody has any promo codes I figure?
― Evan, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
"new you" and "in another way" are super fun
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
also fuck kevin sheilds for only providing a 24/96 download. where's my 24/192 download. ; )
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
idk why I figured Colm would still be a smacked-out sloppy drummer
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
hahahaha sweet nin riff on "nothing is"
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
The drumming is damn powerful throughout so far.
― shaane, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
welp "nothing is" is kicking my ass
was expecting to be cynical about this record but nope
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
154 KB/s
FYI---they are storing passwords in plain text:
Thank you for registering with my bloody valentine. Your account details are below:Password: 7******i
Password: 7******i
― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
where's my 24/192 download
I was expecting to buy the multitrack.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
i wish mbv had more distinct song titles
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
btw if you have a mac and are downloading the 24/96, I recommend using this player: http://sbooth.org/Decibel/
(obv only if you have an external DAC capable of handling the juice etc. etc.)
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
"wonder 2"!!!!!!!???!?!!!!!
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
maybe i just got really drunk
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
2 tracks i didn't like on 1st listen, and 7 i can't wait to hear again. much much better strike rate than i expected tbh.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
Oh god I love how warm this sounds.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
first track incredible
"weird hearing these songs with an actual colm"
do we know he actually played on this one?
"idk why I figured Colm would still be a smacked-out sloppy drummer"
he's like the most normal guy in the world
― akm, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
Listening to this, and I say this as the biggest MBV fan around, totally fucking with the new album, but it makes you wonder though: They could have released this in 1994. Kevin must have LOLLED so hard postponing this until now. Fucking twisted genius he is.
MBV were always timeless, and they are now, too.
Incredible album. Fucking incredible.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah it does sound super 90s. LOVE IT. Makes me feel like i kid again.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
Especially that last track, oh hell yes!
24/96 download chugging along at 700kb/s. I'm impressed! liveblogging my downloading experience.
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
Does anyone think of lollipops when you listen to MBV? A partially transparent circle of sugar. I always did.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
ah, site's back up and running now. bought me a good old-fashioned vinyl copy.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
I think this is the longest I've ever waited on something and still maintained reasonable expectations on what it might be like. Even the span of time between when I was born and when I lost my virginity was shorter.
Not disappointed with it in any way, shape or form.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
i'm like a *moderate* mbv fan but my god does this sound good
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
this sounds great to me but i smoked some 3 Kings in the bathroom so that might have something to do with it. will be buying the vinyl though.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
my record player doesn't even work right and I bought the vinyl. I expect one of you guys will fix it at whichever FAP I bring it to.
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
i can't believe i effing ran out earlier today
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
also went for the 24/96 download, since my squeezebox can actually play that without downsampling. finally it begins to pay for itself with six senses of sound.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
in another way ruuuuuules
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, "In Another Way" was my initial favorite.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
this is so rich and gorgeous
― Clay, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
Great album.
― jim, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
So many have tried to get this sound, but they're the only ones who can do it right. Incredible.
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
This is a dense feast of candy.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm on track 7 by now & have been trying to curtail initial impressions b/c lol 'shock of the new,' but fuck it, this sounds AMAZING
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
How much is shipping on the vinyl
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
$11
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
wonder 2 is just like.....damn
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wow, the second track is sounding really good on that Youtube.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
i like the fact bilinda got more lead vocals than kev. she sings leads in 5/9 songs if i'm not mistaken.
― cock chirea, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
this is really good at making me become really enthusiastic about listening to other things so as to have an excuse to pause the mbv album!!
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
So many have tried to get this sound, but they're the only ones who can do it right
crock of shit.
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
Oh shit thomp is speaking truth to power itt
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
this is really beautiful, like i actually teared up a little a minute in to the 1st track
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
A zinger!
― kornrulez6969, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
i just feel like we all ought to have outgrown our attachment to my bloody valentine at this point
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
this album is awesome
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Saturday, February 2, 2013 11:19 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this is legitimately retarded
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
like, say something intelligent or let ppl enjoy themselves
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
Lots of MBV soundalikes have written some pretty remarkable songs in the same palette, so I kinda side with thomp on this one.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well, I agreed with the original challop. Not so much the "outgrown" one.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
why should i put any more effort into pointing out this is a mediocre record than the people claiming to enjoy it?
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
so as not to be an asshole?
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
do MBV experts know how many of these songs date back to the 90s?
― piscesx, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds are an English rock band formed in 2011 as the solo moniker of former Oasis lead guitarist/songwriter Noel Gallagher. The band originates from Manchester and includes former Oasis session pianist Mike Rowe, drummer Jeremy Stacey of The Lemon Trees, The Zutons bassist Russell Pritchard and guitarist Tim Smith. The band also has a variety of guests on their debut album such as the Crouch End Festival Chorus and The Wired Strings.
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
nah, reflections on it's social propriety can wait until after the buzz wears off.
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
neighbors hatin' me right now
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
its better than a lot of new shoogeezery atuff that's for sure. but maybe the new stuff is just really bad and this is simply a cut above. sounds really cool to me though. even the similar sounding sounds sound cool cuz fuckit that's how they sound. i love when tom petty sounds like tom petty too. they're good at it. mbv and tom petty.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
what good fortune that I just happened to buy a nice new pair of 'at home' headphones a few days ago!
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
when i scratched that deerhunter cd at the weekend i should have known it for an omen
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:16 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
it is too complicated & too early to write about this (i know that sounds super goofy but it's true, & also lol at anyone pfft-ing at this record after forty five minutes with it) but i totally feel you, here, like it is intensely weird listening to stuff that sounds anagramatic of previous mbv songs & textures & all but then a little way into the first song when it coheres & is doing something new sorta & you're kinda back in their ~emotional zone~ & weirdly linked to all the places you've been with that, it's pretty special
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
hey guys i just woke up, what did i miss?
― Roz, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
man the last third or so of "new you"
― Clay, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
Floored on first listen
― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
cried a couple times during this. amazing.
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
This will sound very 20th century, but: will I be able to buy this in a store in the US?
― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
just speaking generally btw, the second side of this is nuts, huh. there are weird moments on the first - that whole rewind ending!, & the sorta touched analogue w/keyboards & bilinda, but it's crazy hearing it go into such specific for want of a less loaded word experimental territory half way through
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
i think this record is a bit weaker melodically than loveless but i think the sound is superior. this is not a weedy album
― djembe v (electricsound), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
Pretty different from Loveless. Less pure and beatific, more... I dunno... humor? Like a number of songs have this bouncy guitar effect.
― jim, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:36 (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
kill yourself.
― attempt to look intentionally nerdy, awkward or (thomp), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
dude chill
― Clay, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
― djembe v (electricsound), Sunday, February 3, 2013 12:38 AM (38 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
can't quite bring myself to argue about stuff yet but i think choosing a superior sound is pretty difficult - there are a couple of things you can pitch against each other to see how they're handled differently, ie the songs in which bilinda harmonises with herself; on blown a wish that's a very interwoven kinda gestalt, totally meshed with the instruments, & i think the strands are more separate on this record. instrumentally it's more adventurous & vocally slightly less i think?
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wtf @ thomp
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
instrumentally it's more adventurous & vocally slightly less i think?
yeah i'd go along with that
― djembe v (electricsound), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
thomp is a self-proclaimed slayer of sacred cows.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
Holy shit this album. I wasnt expecting to react to hearing new stuff from them like I feel right now.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
thomp - please go take your meds
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
Jim otm about it not being weedy - this sound packs a punch. Theres clarity, its not as soupy as Loveless. And I like that.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
This isn't making me cry. I've not gotten any chills. But I'm not gonna blast people who are reacting that way. MBV has never resided in my personal music hierarchy, even though I do like them a great deal. Hearing this is fun for me. For someone else, it might be a spiritual experience. Ain't here to judge friends right now.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
i love when tom petty sounds like tom petty too. they're good at it. mbv and tom petty.
Yeah, after having just finished my first listen, LBI's comment upthread that they could have released this in 1994.. seems OTM. But I have absolutely no problem with that. The continuity of aesthetic in this case seems more on par w/ recent rDinosaur Jr, Mission of Burma & Guided By Voices material than, say, the radical advancement of Portishead after being dormant so long. But that is OK by me b/c those new DJ, MoB & GBV records are aging nicely w/ respect to those bands' 'classic records' & I'm guessing the same can/will be said about this album in time.
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
when i was listening i was kinda impatient to know the songs a little better; when i think of the other records there are so many phrases & parts that are like punctums, where bilinda's singing sorta rises above the song or where there's a line sung that you know & remember. i think the singing feels less anchored to the songs (maybe like, less melodic, like somebody said) on this record but it'll be really nice to know where they're going inside out & zoom in a little closer to what's happening. i listened on headphones & am looking forward to having it playing in the corner or while i go to sleep (though: it kinda goes in the wrong direction volume-wise for that, though i guess that was true of isn't anything, too, without it stopping it being one of the great zone-into-sleep records)
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
this is pretty whatever, but i also don't want anyone to kill themselves because they like it.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
Have you cried in front of a painting ?
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
huh, https://twitter.com/theofficialmbv
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
I kinda want to buy the vinyl just because of the all analog process, which I'm assuming means it was done at abbey road like a lot of the stuff albini sends there
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
may be very MBV-sounding but it gets surprisingly inventive even coming from that familiar palette, seemingly through Kevin just willing these really odd shapes/jolting directions up from it
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
Lmao I just got an email from that dumb radiohead w.a.s.t.e. thing at 8:49 PM plugging atoms for peace, guess thom needs attention
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
I would have been v disapointed with a soupy shoegazey LovelessII tbh.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
Thom Yorke is like a Kardashian now.
― Ulna (Nicole), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
Reminds me of listening to Third for the first time. Which is a fantastic feeling.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
Btw I love that this thread was started ten years ago.
― Ulna (Nicole), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well....I suppose it's time to tell you *rips off mask*....I'm Kevin Shields...Mr. Raggett, I do hope you've enjoyed this little game of ours, now I'm afraid it's time to for you to die
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
thom_yorke_ray_j_sex_tape_kevin_shields_remix.html
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
who sees you and in another way are so great!
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
It was all just a plan to get Ned's twitter account suspended.
― Ulna (Nicole), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
HI ALL.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS BUT I HAVE A PROJECT CALLEDATOMS FOR PEACE.
[...]
IT'S A MIXTURE OF LIVE AND MACHINE, I GUESS.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
....AND FLEA
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
Holy shit, "nothing is" is such a drone jam!
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
Was NOT expecting that at all. blimey.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
Want to buy this SO BAD
― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
yeah, this is less soupy and fuzzed and more... lurching and deep?
the lower end makes me think of gnarled roots pushing through huge bodies of clay or something
― Chris S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
New You is Wham.
― Hinklepicker, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
It has a lot of really visceral sounds yeah.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
no better way to lose your hearing
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
blimey. I feel like I need a cig after that last track. Phew.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
They are going to kill it live in 2 weeks. I am so excite.
No. I mean messrs Michael and Ridgely - Wham. Probably just me.
― Hinklepicker, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
"new you" is inxs
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
in another way live is going to shred everything.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
Man whatever people make shoegaze all the time they did before "Loveless" they will after this. They make pizza outside of New York City too, but I know if I ever want a REAL pizza, I have to go to NYC.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
MBV is not about murky soup it's about a perfectly arranged soup with the exact right amount of ingredients.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
Are you hungry or something?
― Evan, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
"new you" is sly fox
― MarkoP, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
LOL how can i think of food at a time like this?
Sorry I was so excited 3 hours flew by and i forgot dinner.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
Sly Fox - yes good. We have it now. I was thinking a bit of 'Anything She Wants' - classic Whammery.
― Hinklepicker, Sunday, 3 February 2013 05:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
I love how ragged and fuzzed out a lot of Kev's guitar parts are, esp as interwoven w/ the comparatively manicured feedback/distortion of the Loveless-era 'glide-guitar style.' And the drums here have this murky wallop.. on some of the tracks, it's like like they're taken the flutter of ''To Here Knows When' or 'Swallow'" and anchored it in the sludgy, ragged low end of 'Slow' - all elements which existed already in their earlier music, and in combinations that seem almost haphazard at face value, but which reveal themselves to be deceptively synchronized as the songs swell, build & repeat.
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
^ really well put!have still only heard thisonce but the pairings of glide guitar & soloing or playing melodic lines were really interesting. my fav thing on first listen was maybe those lil flicks that break up the guitar part on the first song.
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
really happy, really impressed. looking forward to processing this more.
― s.clover, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
ha i burst out laughing (via emo) at about the same point
― caek, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
i love that this album came out at like 3am UK time
otm
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
i sensed a disturbance and woke up for no reason right when the site was launching
― caek, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
this really is blowing my mind right now. doesn't hurt that i'm really drunk. WOW!
― Bee OK, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
The continuity of aesthetic in this case seems more on par w/ recent rDinosaur Jr, Mission of Burma & Guided By Voices material than, say, the radical advancement of Portishead after being dormant so long. But that is OK by me b/c those new DJ, MoB & GBV records are aging nicely w/ respect to those bands' 'classic records' & I'm guessing the same can/will be said about this album in time.
OTM
― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
What's up mbv nerds
― jaymc, Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
lol drum and bass
― caek, Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Wonder 2" sounds noticeably better loud on headphones. gives you the full jet-taking-off effect.
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
so now that I know what the new MBV album sounds like, the question is what does the new MBV album sound like on weed? research is to commence forthwith.
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
lol sometimes I wish I liked weed. Now seems like it would be a good time.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
last track rips your head off. there's nothing particularly pleasurable about it, apart from the insane novelty of how much is going on, and how much individually seems no more domineering than the other.
like loveless, my favorite parts of this are the end bits - ear-worms played ad infinitum, meditative pleasure.
― kelpolaris, Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
just finished with my first listen. impressed more than i thought i ever would be.
― Bee OK, Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
i need a hit
what a great time to be alive
can't tell, music kinda sounds like shit on YouTube
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
last track rips your head off. there's nothing particularly pleasurable about it
see, i found that particular ripping-off-of-the-head effect to be totally thrilling!
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
Haven't listened to this through headphones yet. Will do tomorrow. Expect some revelations.
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
If you blew the cones in your speakers, yet insisted on playing Teenage Fanclub records through them at top volume, that might sound a lot like song #2.
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
omg @ synth refrain in the final stretch of 'in another way.' *floored*
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
Unexpected Demis Roussos vibe off penultimate track.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ready for the morning
― Mark G, Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
There's a swooshing noise at 1'20" on only tomorrow, that can literally only have been made by a chinchilla gnawing through a guitar cable.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ok - I can't go through the whole thread... have the ppl who've heard this actually BOUGHT it from the website or got it by other means? Cos I got as far as entering my card details but they can't be processed... Which is better than last night, but still.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
Website's working just fine now... Although I used paypal.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
^same here
― djembe v (electricsound), Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ok, I see a few ppl are having trouble with card payment. PayPal it is.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
tho admittedly i'm distracted by the datedness of the Squarepusher drum track on Wonder 2, it certainly functions well to capture and escalate the incredible momentum of the song. in that respect, this situation reminds me of when Bark Psychosis dropped Codename: Dustsucker out of the blue & after a long and continuously stalled gestation period. They'd retooled and expanded their sound in engaging ways, but left a scattering of breakbeats intact that were basically the ghost of 1997.
but that's really my ONLY quip at this point - so far this record is the bees' knees.
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
I had no problem using a visa card.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
I just feel sorry for Suede...
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
10am, Nov 11 1991, HMV Church Street, Liverpool. £6.99 for the LP. And now...this.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Doran
I heard D'angelo/Avalanches/Dr. Dre are all releasing comeback albums the same day Suede release theirs.
Album is fantastic and I say this as someone who really likes Loveless and Isn't Anything but doesn't quite love them like other people seem to. Just trying to decide which format to buy it on.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
"I heard D'angelo/Avalanches/Dr. Dre are all releasing comeback albums the same day Suede release theirs."
Amazing. There's some dude called Lazarus is threatening to show his face as well.
Anyway, Ned Raggett (has a nice dinner with friends and then) ponders it all:
m b v track by track
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
will this be eligible for the regular album charts?
― piscesx, Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
Probably
― Mark G, Sunday, 3 February 2013 09:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
the sloooooow and steady melodic build & layers of fuzzed-out power chords of Only Tomorrow remind me of Raise-era Swervedriver - not at all a bad thing!
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 10:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
I might wait until it is available in the shops.
― djh, Sunday, 3 February 2013 10:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
Actually, it's streaming on the Guardian's website.
Seems a bit ... nothing special, so far.
― djh, Sunday, 3 February 2013 10:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
Just clicked this morning thinking 'why are there 400+ new posts?' there must be awesome lolz on this thread...to actually find a brand new rec is shocking.
Halfway through now..
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 11:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
i will be smoking a joint and listening to this later. wkd.
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Sunday, 3 February 2013 11:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
on 2nd listen now and its starting to sink in a bit. Loving it.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 11:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yes very good. Feels like something old/something new.
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Sunday, 3 February 2013 11:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
hearing something new each time too
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 11:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
Loveless had shed loads of detail and hooks and songwriting that jumped at you from the first listen never mind the 10th.
Was listening to this and reading Ned's reaction piece. Like he says: no stopping of tracks, really sounds as if MBV really did this over a short period for the most part with perhaps finally working over some ideas they've spoken about in the past.
After who sees you I did find asking myself 'so what does pre-Isn't Anything? MBV material sounds like?'. As someone who loves all the EPs and the two albs I trusted people who said not to bother with anything before '87. WARNING SIGNS, right there.
Then as you move to the 2nd half you hear some more varied sonics and there are these 'we are not from mars really' vocal tics (which isn't bad at all, love the woooo in 'Only Tomorrow'), but it can't be said enough: this lacks enough hooks, songwriting and overload of detail.
Felt sad listening to Wonder 2: like here is the jungle stuff he talked about, and I wondered if he could have made more of it on more tracks (might have meant less Colm poor guy). It was always a myth anyway, nevertheless the gap adds a lot in your head and you have this fantasy that he went mad trying to re-create jungle (just as the thing was dying in the mid-90s) gave up and what you have is this remnant to mull over 15+ years later.
No track here besides Wonder 2 would make it as an MBV b-side from that period, never mind a track on Loveless.
Similarly I don't think any of this would break the top 10 on the 2013 tracks poll. Reckon the alb would make top 10 on enthusiasm I'm seeing here.
Having said all of this I'm glad that's all over with (lock thread etc). I do hope it was something recorded quickly to really just get it over with and that Shields et al. are on the first step to making something great in 18 months.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 11:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
when does the backlash start?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ned started it, not me.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
When I hear the first massive chord of she found now, I keep on momentarily expecting it to break into a shoey cover of ABC's All Of My Heart.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'll always remember where I was the day MBV started sounding like MBV: sitting on my couch listening to MBV.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
Strongly suspect that this was mostly recorded in about 1996.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
Do you think the title Only Tomorrow is callback to Only Shallow?
― jim, Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
I wonder what the timeline is for the making of this album. was is it mostly recorded in 92, then tinkered with for 20 years? Or was it mostly recorded last year? post
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
I would have thought recorded after they finished the comeback tour a few years back.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
Of course it may have been recorded way back but it took a few years to master it post comeback tour
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
'nothing is' really sounds like Generation by Liturgy. Which is not really a problem, the idea wasn't invented by Liturgy, it's just like, halfbaked in comparison. Other than that, I like it after this first listen. Especially 'in another way' and 'wonder 2'. Will obviously have to listen to it not on youtube.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
Can’t hear more than a very shallow similarity myself. Generation sounds like a rock band making rock music, with the progression in the playing, whereas 'Nothing As' sounds very much like a studio recording, sample-based, and using effects to produce textural changes over time, very similar to how you might make techno.
― Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
I seem to recall reading a paper somewhere on the topic of Liturgy inventing guitar and drums played in unison. Actually, it may have been by HHH himself.
― BMICHAEL, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
Shields has already stated that this is stuff he started recording in the 90s.
I'm just finishing a record that I had started in the 90s. It was going to be, like, the next record. But it was already after the band had half split up, and me and Bilinda were left. Then we got back together.
http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/8809-kevin-shields/
― Position Position, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well, you haven't heard the drummachine-backed live-version of Generation, then ;) I mean, it is the same sort of punk-minimalism, but yeah, Liturgy was far from the first to use that sound.
Sounds good with textural changes. Didn't catch many of those on youtube, but will listen on something better soon.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
I've enjoyed my one listen so far, but as much as I wish this was released back when it should have been released - 15 years ago or so - I have a feeling it would have met the fate of so many intriguing follow-up albums from shoegaze acts, like those from Slowdive or Seefeel, and just vanished into the ether without so much as a wide release.
Much better than "Chinese Democracy," though.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
mbv is kind of a brilliant title. It lets some of the air out of the signifier.
― jim, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
this record has 2 problems imo:1. it sounds like Loveless part 2.(nothing new)2. Loveless is better.
otherwise, great record
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
this record is not like Loveless.
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
So general feeling is disappointment? Everybody is disappointed because Kevin Shields copied Squarepusher instead of, like, Burial in the electronic track and that he copied himself instead of, like, someone who doesn't exist yet?
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's sort of meta-disappointment, maybe: it sounds exactly like most people probably expected it to sound, but not as mind-blowing as some likely wanted it to sound.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
that is the disadvantage of the higher-as-fuck expectations 22 years after the monster that was Loveless
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
Bits of it sound like a consolidation of a post-loveless sound. In the 2nd half they're going for different things.
xxp = i think its the feeling that this was the stuff left in a cupboard somewhere and then Shields decided to dust it off, release to get rid of it.
Given what a torture Loveless was to make I don't blame him if this indeed was the case.
I'm just playing their Louis Amrstrong cover now.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
(and maybe that's the reason Shields postpone the release till now)
xpost to me
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
I like these songs fine, but the world would not have been a worse place if they had been parceled out track by track over those two decades, on comps, soundtracks, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
Oh shit, Only Tomorrow, oh shit, oh shit. Well, yeah, how can it not be? But more.
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
it's kind of impossible to compare the two because the world into which Loveless entered wasn't one where people felt such intense pressure to form a shareable opinion during their first listen. obv this is some old man yells at cloud shit, horse isn't going back into the barn, but it's really so pronounced in a case like this - literally no-one could conceivably have had time to reflect in any seriousness about the record. It hasn't been out for 24 hours. The chief quality of a critical opinion is reflection, but there's not going to be any about this record, or any record ever again - we get first impressions, which are kinda...boring and predictable? imo
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
aerosmith = completely OTM. It's also one reason why I listened to it once before even writing one word about it, and if Doran hadn't given me the commission -- and hey, I volunteered for it when he sent out an email so I knew what I was doing -- I would probably still be taking it all in and thinking. As it is I already feel my opinions changing further, though still hesitant.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't think ppl on ILX talking about their first impressions precludes deeper listening & more thoughtful discussion later
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't see the harm in sharing first reactions. It's interesting to see how people are reacting in the heat of initial discovery. When we go to the movies with friends, for instance, the conversation afterwards is about what we just saw.
― jim, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
aero = sitting on the fence man. its not even a pointy one, why bother.
np: Rising Sign - Hurricane #1 (My Bloody Valentine remix)
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
First listen track by tracks are nothing new. They're not reviews and they don't preclude 'proper' reviews later.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
it's not just ilx, I'm not singling out this thread - all over, if this is the sort of music you follow, there's a lot of I LISTENED WHILE LOOKING AT THE INTERNET AND HERE'S MY OPINION!! and of course it doesn't necessarily preclude deeper listening/more thoughtful discussions. it just does in practice. imo the first impression basically governs discussion of most things now, to the general detriment of discussion
It's interesting to see how people are reacting in the heat of initial discovery.
respectfully disagree
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
First listen track by tracks are nothing new
they're not new, but their prevalence is - it's very common now. They've always been awful it's true, when labels used to do listening parties there was never any review more wretched than the "I took notes while listening in a supervised environment here's what I thought!" - which is basically the entirety of the discourse now. this is related to my pointless rage at post-game interviews in which the interview asks the winning/losing QB/boxer/pitcher "how are you feeling right now?"
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
What's happening, User?
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
"which is basically the entirety of the discourse now"
What are you talking about?
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
I mean, is this just some, it were all fields round here in my day whinge, or is there actually something that can be done?
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
*dusts off writing pad after 25 years in cupboard*
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
One thing I was trying to do was have a cold but not first-time 'whoa' reaction to things rather than being shaped by what I'd already read -- now that I am reading some other thoughts, I'm getting further ways to regard a number of the songs, which is always good, but not the stopping point.
I can certainly say it is a nice album to fall asleep/wake up to.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
There are loads of people - I can guarantee it - who will revel in pointing out what all the first listen track by tracks missed out when they come to writing their 'proper' reviews. And so it goes...
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
First listen track by tracks are nothing newthey're not new, but their prevalence is - it's very common now. They've always been awful it's true, when labels used to do listening parties there was never any review more wretched than the "I took notes while listening in a supervised environment here's what I thought!" - which is basically the entirety of the discourse now. this is related to my pointless rage at post-game interviews in which the interview asks the winning/losing QB/boxer/pitcher "how are you feeling right now?"
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:26 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you should definitely watch some spurs games, or at least youtube gregg popovich's greatest courtside-reporter hits
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
I believe I said "this is some old man yells at clouds shit" in my initial post, Mr. Get-Mad-And-Defensive Doran, which is U.S. for "it were all fields round here." I don't suspect there's anything that can be done, no - I'm saying that the nature of discourse about music has entered into a very dull stage of "everybody weighs in as soon as possible," and while you're theoretically right that that doesn't preclude deeper discussions, it generally does in practice. Twere ever thus etc. I'm sure, as I say it's just so pronounced when there's a big release/event - which really ought to be the cases in which one would say, well, this is kind of an event, a lot to digest, my first impression probably isn't particularly valuable - but in fact the opposite occurs, a great deal of weight is put on the value of the first impression.
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
I have enough trouble coming up with year-end favorites, so much so that I stopped doing it entirely. Short of my top one or two records a given year, it's unlikely I'll return to one of my top 10 in the coming year, both because of old stuff I want to listen to and new stuff I want to listen to, which at least personally degrades/devalues the whole notion of a top 10, which is pretty arbitrary to begin with. I mean, there are albums I've been listening to for decades that I'm just starting to get a grip on.
That said, I have no real problem with flash reactions, as long as they're unattended by flash dismissals. But the press of time will (hopefully entertainingly) taint every review of this thing currently being rushed out of the gate. By necessity, every single one will either be rife with hedging, leaving the potential that this album will improve/degrade over time, or, more cynically, will competitively commit too firmly one way or the other.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
it's tempting. my current favorite of the post-game/bout nonsense questions "walk us through how you're feeling right now"
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
Am I wrong or is my impression correct that a lot of athletes sign contracts with provisions saying they'll have to do that kind of shit?
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
"First listen" posting is a good thing except for those extremely rare times when you wait twenty years for the follow up to one of the best albums ever and then it suddenly appears with almost no advance notice. The usual stuff about sitting through multiple listens and trying to gain some perspective hardly seems to have any meaning right now.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
it does to me? idk.
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
there's a pretty good riff about the post-game interview thing in the dfw essay on tracy austin, i.e. that the banality of most athletes answers might be understandable and humanizing if you compare it to the insane and inexplicable genius they show in play. that said, there are just about no working music critics* who'd qualify as geniuses to offset the banality of these first-listen reviews.
*except me.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
links to first-listen reviews?
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
currently watching a spurs game, weirdly enough
confident enough in my speakers + immersive listening habits to state that 'only tomorrow' and 'in another way' tower over the rest (and most music, in general) so far - they're fucking beautiful, wild songs, gorgeous melodic change-ups mangled thru mad sonics, but more than that, they shock me to a higher state of detachment and focus - the way only the best music can. also, 'in another way' made me post this fairly incongruous and unrefined spiel to ilx, another sign of its greatness
actually, I'm not going to post yet because there are only 2 tracks left. aeroboot hath taught me the value of temperance
...
you can add 'wonder 2' to that list. much as it will insult aeroboot's sensibilities to so brutally section off three songs from the remainder of the artistic document they are an irreducible part of, just be glad i didn't choose a single riff or ten-second melody to ringtone away. songs are songs for reasons of delineation. and these three songs, on a very good album that may get better, are extraordinarily pleasurable for me
third eye foundation is a reference-point i want a few others to pursue
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
the nature of discourse about music has entered into a very dull stage of "everybody weighs in as soon as possible,"
music and everyeveryeverything
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
What would be even funnier to me is if he never scrapped ANY of the stuff he was working on in the 20 years since, and will be releasing a brand new album without warning every 2 weeks from now til end of the year.
― Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
Hannah Arendt covered this well in her scathing essay "The Banality of First Listens."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
A thing can take years to open up, but sometimes its not awful to trust your ear and your first instincts too. Sometimes typing up a crappy post is a way towards reflection and your own deeper understanding, sometimes not. xps
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
it sounds like mostly y'all are just mad at people for being boring.
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
"I believe I said "this is some old man yells at clouds shit" in my initial post,"
For some reason I thought you were talking about Shields.
I'm not mad at the moment... hitting a nice upswing on my cycle. I get what you're saying and you're definitely right about music boards settling for a consensus very quickly but then music boards mainly thrive on consensus anyway. I don't see that 'proper' reviewing would be any different with or without track by tracks on sites and in magazines though.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
idk last night was super fun on ilx imo; it was great seeing ppl who had been waiting for this longer and more longingly than i had been get to hear it
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
I should clarify that my "hardly seems to have any meaning" comment is relative to whatever "normal" first listening is ... IOW, normally I feel I can listen to a new album and have something halfway intelligent to say about it right away, but in this case I have absolutely no confidence that anything I say right now will have any bearing on how I'll feel about this album in a week or month or year's time. Anything I say or write today (including this post) is really just a diary entry that I can read in a few years time and remember "oh, that's how I felt right after hearing the new MBV album".
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
get what you're saying and you're definitely right about music boards settling for a consensus very quickly but then music boards mainly thrive on consensus anyway.
I thought they thrived in dissent!
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
also of all the albums that could possibly be released in 2013 i think i am least likely to need the guiding light of careful and considered criticism for this one
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
""First listen" posting is a good thing except for those extremely rare times when you wait twenty years for the follow up to one of the best albums ever and then it suddenly appears with almost no advance notice. The usual stuff about sitting through multiple listens and trying to gain some perspective hardly seems to have any meaning right now."
LOL @you for hanging out on a message board going over first listens forensically in that case.
I'm not that bothered because I don't even think Loveless is the best MBV album let alone one of the best of all time.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
currently beginning my third listen to 'in another way', have that you archephonophobes
and it's going to be hard beaten as song of the year. next stop autechre
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
I didn't say that first listen reactions aren't interesting, but expecting professional sounding reviews and criticism after a few hours of perspective is asking a bit too much.
xpost
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
― imago, Sunday, February 3, 2013 2:46 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
agree with this. iirc a large proportion of writing about 3EF from say 1996-98 focused on "remember when ppl were saying Kevin Shields was writing drum'n'bass tracks, well guess we'll probably never hear those but check this guy out"
― ima go (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't even think Loveless is the best MBV album
on this we are agreed!
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
i don't think its an album that is hard to talk about after a first listen. sounds EXACTLY like my bloody vslentine.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
scott otm
― :C (crüt), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
valentine even
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
xps to mencap: well, yeah. more people should hear 'the dark' (3EF's brilliant 2011 record), there are parallels with this new mbv but it's longer, more monolithic and more (imo) transportingly intense, albeit far, far less pop
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
that said, the highs on m b v are skysearing
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
i think most fans will love it forever and be really happy that they can put it right next to the other stuff. its in keeping/part and parcel/a welcome addition/etc.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
What scott said.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
i mean i guess years ago when millions of people would run out and buy an album the day it was released things were different pre-internet but not that different. took longer to get other people's reactions but there were always lots of quick opinions. i miss when radio existed and they would actually debut an album and talk about it. that was cool.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
it totally hit the spot last night. even on youtube! like being denied a drug you really like for a long time. oooh that's the stuff...gimme that guitar tone, baby.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah I loved the comparisons from a couple of folks like Elvis T. about how this felt like lining up in front of Tower before midnight.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
since they have made such a big deal about the all analog vinyl thing they should really release this on reel to reel tape. that would be amazing.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
I wonder how the actual vinyl or cds will sound
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
As a fan, yeah, this is lot of fun. But I kind of pity the people who have to review this in the next week.
Re: TEF, this sounds nothing like "The Dark", but "Wonder2" could almost be an outtake from "Semtex".
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
Looking back at this article, it seems to me Kevin's take on this material is very accurate:
Shields also gave some indications as to what the third album might be like: "It's not going to sound like Loveless where it's like looking into another world," he said "More like Isn't Anything, where it seems to be of this world, but with one foot in another world. The songs on Loveless had more in common with folk-blues music to me, just a verse and an instrumental passage, circular. The new songs are more... sometimes it's just that, and sometimes it's songs that have one verse, then a musical part, then something that's totally different. More elongated... and more raw. A lot of the guitars are very aggressive."
― jim, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
Nah, the good reviewers will have to work extra hard because of all this. The best reviews will be dead good because of it.
One good example of massive amounts of discussion of a record before the publication of reviews being obviously a good thing was before Let England Shake came out. It really felt like a lot of information was being shared and opinions were changing on a daily basis.
I'm not saying they're comparable records of course.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
Should have been XP.
my first reaction is like, I wnana go home and put this on loud speakers
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
MBV never really worked as a headphone band 4 me
i wanna go home and play earthbound
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
haha my USB controller is also @ home. I am going to bring it up here and play wind waker on my computer. also earthbound. so many ROMs.
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
tbrr listening to this album wasn't even the most euphoric listening experience I had in the past 24 hours. that would belong to lsitening to this fan remix of GD & TOP over that one ALICE DEEJAY song everybody samples.
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
sitting around playing super nintendo and listening to my bloody valentine...the early 90s really ARE back.
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
get your Zubaz pants ready!
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
imagining danzig bellowing MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTHER *pauses* *whispers* 2: revenge of gyiygas
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
Earthbound is getting re-released digitally soon as well, first time in 19 years - Japan only so far, though :(
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
oops forgot about that GBA cart from 10 years ago. Itoi really is the video game Kevin Shields tho!
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
disappointed that DUKE NUKEM FOREVER was actually released 2 years ago and so we can't really make joeks about it itt
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
i think this album gets very interesting in the second half, or more specifically the last three songs, which immediately struck me as as a departure from anything else the band has done. what particularly intrigues me is how these tracks don't simply integrate a few stray elements here and there to hint at a new approach, they fully embrace something altogether new that creates a sudden juncture in the album's circuit; these are fragmented, almost deconstructed numbers -- replete with the usual woozy MBV charm, but with extra clutter and loose ends -- that are likely to give me a lot to ponder as i wrap my head around the album as a whole and determine how (and why) it all fits together.
― charlie h, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
brb making dubstep remixes of all the tracks
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
charlie h otm - that's where the album really takes off for me
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
i think this album gets very interesting in the second half, or more specifically the last three songs
― miesepeter (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
if it is for the good
― miesepeter (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
The vinyl has been recorded, mixed and mastered in analogue. It is manufactured on 180 gram vinyl and comes in a gatefold sleeve with the CD in a card wallet. The vinyl will be limited due to manufacturing restrictions.
Is anyone else going to wait the three weeks plus for the vinyl release to get their First Listen(tm), or I am alone in being that guy? I totally get the frenzy for this, and don't begrudge ppl the need to hear it now, but somehow this event makes the notion of waiting for "ideal" listening conditions per one's tastes entirely acceptable.
― Thinspo Merkin Life (Spectrist), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
i'll wait for the vinyl to listen again. i heard enough last night to know that i would love the record. i love my original u.k. copy of loveless. sounds amazing. and the u.k. feed me with your kiss 12 inch i own is one of my favorite things to hear on vinyl. so much so that i can't really listen to that song on the album cuz it sounds so much worse than the 12 inch. never had a u.k. vinyl copy of isn't anything though so maybe that would make the a difference. the u.s. vinyl of that album is abysmal. just terrible.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
i think there may well be something exciting about the repetition of that song ("nothing is") if i probe deeper. the band have often been repetitive in a gliding, replenishing way in the past; this is repetitive in a bouncing-off-the-walls kind of way, like it's trapped in a tiny, enclosed space. and it seems to get more and more agitated by the second. or maybe that is just how my mind conditions me to hear it?
x-posts to alex
― charlie h, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
Not totally coherent thoughts but ... I've got a sense of how much I have changed in the time since Loveless was released that I almost want a new My Bloody Valentine album to echo that in some way: I guess I want it to sound like My Bloody Valentine but 20 (or whatever) years different. I'm not really getting that from the plays so far (to be fair, playing on computer speakers isn't really how I should be listening).
― djh, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
would buy double album 45 rpm version of isn't anything. just in case lazybones shields lurks on ilx.
which reminds me! i've had these rollerskate skinny 10 inches in the store foreeeeeever and nobody will buy them and i am gonna listen to them now.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
Also struck by a vague feeling of ... there are other records I'll be buying before this and am more excited by ... which surprises me given how important they were to me.
― djh, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
to be honest, and i haven't really thought about this THAT much, i kinda figured if he ever put out more mbv stuff that it would be really formless/drifting/drone type stuff. long 10+ minute songs and all that. collaborate with, i dunno, sonic boom or stars of the lid or something and just disappear into hyperspace. its not like he couldn't have done that at home and knocked out an album every couple of years. so i'm kinda glad that he stuck to the, you know, formula. for the most part. the contained thing. though there is a little more formlessness. the structures aren't as simple/catchy/riff-y as before. less rock action. which is fine by me.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
formlessness not the right word at all. sorry. i need more tea. just less pop-oriented. rock-oriented.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
cuz there is obviously form there. form up the butt.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, February 3, 2013 8:40 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ned, I think it's a variety of things, one, some athletes are just kind of blank ppl as strongo noted, others aren't that bright, but others I think kind of recite those cliches like zen koans because they are safe things to say, they protect you from the espn/sports radio echo chamber, which will eat you alive and spit you out the minute you say something ill considered
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
Someone observed elsewhere that it took longer for Shields to follow up "Loveless" (22 years) than it took the slasher in the film "My Bloody Valentine" to return and wreak havoc on the town's Valentine's Day celebration (20 years).
Second half of this album is what intrigues me the most.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
officially official youtubes so they won't get taken down...
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheOfficialMBV/videos
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
i mean it SAYS official so they must be official. i believe what i read.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWyRfqfEC2s
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
I wanna know how the peruvian food was
― ☯ t (wins), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
it isn't even mentioned in that quietus piece
I saw the pictures on twitter it looked really good
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
It was quite excellent.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
Pisco sour:
Ceviche and other appetizers:
Lomo saltado:
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
Standard options all but since it was my first time at this place I wanted to see how well they did the basics.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
What's on the sour? Cinnamon? Cocoa?
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
I really don't understand how someone could be disappointed. This is awesome. Maybe not as catchy as "Loveless" but it sounds like I will be listening to this so many times and continually finding new stuff to love about it.
A friend on fb posted "Oh this sounds like demos" and yes it's kind of sad that this came out in a snarky era where people will just take a challopsy stance without even listening to the record to get internet points.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
Good day for comfort food of all types, looks like.
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
peruvian food rules
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
Brad's right there.
And yes, cinnamon.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
My brain just melted a bit. Bob Mould recommended my Quietus piece over on FB.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
you've made it to the big time!
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Only Tomorrow" kind of reminds me of Medicine... Anyone else?
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
my favorite MBV releases are the IA-era EPs & the Tremolo EP. And on several of the tracks here it seems like Kev's going back and deliberately exploring that transitional space b/w IA & Loveless - so, in many respects, I couldn't be happier about the way this sounds. I would have not expected or desired genre-redefining, pioneering music from them at this point. tbh the fact that there is new music AT ALL is something I'm still having trouble getting my head around, so it this were to be written off as an artifact & they never release anything else again, it's still an album's worth of NEW MBV SONGS that didn't exist in the world (if a pile of abandoned master tapes falls in the forest, does it make a sound?) before today. Perspective, ppl!
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
has anyone here ever gone to an official listening party for an album that was really bad? just curious. gotta be kinda awkward.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
don't really think its that challopsy tbh, after a few listens its surprising how underproduced/unfinished some of it sounds
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Only Tomorrow" kind of reminds me of Medicine... Anyone else?"
i think so too! - the dude from medicine who was just here a minute ago
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
i really like Nothing Is!
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
a nod to ?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
Scott: I was asked to leave a really ostentatious playback for a Sigur Ros album once.
― Doran, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
pf hailed medicine as the closest thing to being an american answer to mbv, so apparently you are not alone.
― miesepeter (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
Sure, and I hear lots of other bands of the period in this that I know for certain KS was listening to.
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
I always thought/still think Buried Life holds up well to Loveless.
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
Hey Brad, I didn't even notice you here. I'm not trying to polish your shoes or anything.
― afriendlypioneer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
better than throwing up on them ! Thanks for the kind words !
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
But you could say the same thing about "Loveless". The crustiness and lo-finess is part of the charm of My Bloody Valentine. Working in an expensive studio for years to make something that sounds lo-fi. mbv certainly doesn't sound like MBV demos to me compared to their earlier stuff.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
The 90s nostalgic in me wants to listen to this LP played back over a big rock PA waiting for a show to start.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
i contend that 'One More' by Medicine is one of the only gaze-era songs to actually give MBV a run for their money (and the only Medicine song to come anywhere even close imo).
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
loved One More ... first heard it over a big rock PA waiting for a show to start.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
The only one or two where we were actually trying to do that, so thanks ! After that there were legions of bands ready to take up that mantle.
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
at fucking Wetlands in NYC (rip)
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 17:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
you guys its been 15 years since the last All Natural Lemon & Lime Flavors album. the wait continues...
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
hey brad - yeah, not so much used to artists showing up on ilx to discuss their own work, but thanks for not taking that as a slight b/c it certainly was not intended to be one!
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
No worries at all. It's hardly a controversial opinion that you expressed.
― Brad Laner, Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
brad has been in and out of ilx enough over the years to know that i thinkxp
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
if we're bigging up brad laner's work then there's a couple of tracks off the lusk album that do the whole bendy shoegaze thing really, really well
swirlies' second album is the true righteous accedent to the second-wave shoegaze throne afaict
got the feeling that i'm sleeping on (if one can be sleeping on something ~20 hours after it was released) the first track of m b v, will investigate now
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
Still haven't heard the new MBV record due to being incredibly busy today... think I'm going to have me a listen to Loveless first (because I haven't listened to it in like, ages), and then move on from that to the new record.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
This would be a very amusing tie-in if true
9:20 - there are a few promo codes for $5 off floating around... if you can't find one online they are available on specially marked packages of 16 oz sabra hummus.
― with perhaps the exception of r-r-r-r-rhythm (Sanpaku), Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
Shields is an avid connoiseur of fine foods iirc?
― Drugs A. Money, Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
Like Christgau said of his own fraught relationship with Elvis Costello, I'm an admiring non-fan. "New You" is the one I've got on repeat.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
is anyone else still trying and failing to order this goddamn record? even though all of my details are correct, I keep getting a "Sorry your transaction could not be processed, please check your details and try again." error whenever I try to order. I'm thinking maybe it's having trouble recognizing DC as a state, since there isn't a dropdown menu.
I'M TRYING TO GIVE OYU $40 MBV JUST TAKE IT
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
paypal ime
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
no trouble here and i wound up putting in both cd and vinyl orders separately
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
ah, switching to paypal did the trick, thanks! I have finally managed to give MBV $40, listening now!
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
just ordered mine
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
i wonder if opening at #1 (at $40 a pop) will make kevin shields enough money to convince him to release another album within 5 years?
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
sorry, i guess technically it's $30 + $10 shipping. either way i think they'll do well.
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
I just have this on repeat, so glad I could DL WAV files with my payment for the vinyl.
― sleeve, Sunday, 3 February 2013 19:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
I was listening to MBV Arkestra and The Kevin Sheilds remix of a Mogwai track and some other remixes (they should compile those into an album btw) and wondering why he couldn't build on that.
In some ways he does something else entirely for parts of the 2nd half so that's welcome.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
i always thought the mbv arkestra was one of the best things he ever did. i haven't listened to it for years but the horn loop at the end is so incredible.
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
I loved this on first listen. Had a wonderful 50 minutes reading through this thread and texting and emailing friends while listening this afternoon. I agree with people posting above that it was emotional. To think that 22 years ago I bought Loveless from Woolworths and today downloaded this was a strange thing.
The shuffly, baggy "indie dance" beats in the last few tracks seemed a little dated though.
― kraudive, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
they've really branched out lyrically eh
― mookieproof, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
The beat on In Another Way is wonderful, like a beefier, more-kinetic version of Pulk/Pull Revolving Doors, complete with gorgeous modulation.
Weirdly, my favourite thing about Wonder 2 is now the organ-sounding chord-sequence in the background
Those two songs. I could go on all night. IAW has my soul for now
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
To think that 22 years ago I bought Loveless from Woolworths and today downloaded this was a strange thing.
Yeah I was on a diet of speed and xtc when I bought this album now it is taking the dog for a walk with my son after Sunday dinner.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
Bought the record this morning and have been listening to it nonstop.
I have to agree it was a pretty emotional experience. Maybe not so much for those who listened to Loveless in a different 'world'.
Some things seem slightly dated (rhythmically that funk-esque and dancey guitar, keyboards a la Stereolab).
The production quality is top notch. Crunchy, fuzzed, sludgy guitars and the swirling, ambient textural guitars.
The last part I feel is divided into another two parts, as well.
I feel this is going to get compared to a lot of bands, though. I heard so many similarities with run-of-the-mill small shoegaze bands from the 90s that were trying to emulate 'that' sound.
Due to the production and certain frequencies, listening to Loveless on headphones was always very taxing on my ears (long listens).
Listening to this album on headphones is pure ecstasy. A very balanced sound, it has more dimension and depth than Loveless, which seems to have all sounds pushed to the 'front', brighter sounding. I surmise it will sound good on good speakers and headphones. The warm analogue tinge is definitely there, which I absolutely love. Interested to learn more about their recording process, personally, because my gut feeling/sensation is it doesn't sound pure analogue.
Though KS hints at the whole dnb a few songs before Wonder 2, and it is a nice track, I'm still trying to make up my cynical mind on the last track. I have to think about it some more, as well as the entire record.
Having said that, I am going for my 5k run. Maybe that'll help.
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
the year of mbv v gbv
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
^ POLL
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
I can't wait to hear this on headphones. Probably tonight.
Yeah, i bought "Loveless" when i was 16 at Best Buy in 1997, and it was incredible. So I've been waiting so long for this. I don't care if it's not as hooky as "Loveless", it's filled with great variations on that sound, and I kind of like the shapeless quality it currently has for me. Listening over and over will bring out so many parts that I didn't notice on the 1st 2nd 3rd listens.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
or grunge v shoegaze
still blows my mind nevermind and loveless came out within five weeks of each other
1991 baby!
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
1991 albums poll would have been glorious carnage. Team Talk Talk represent!
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
and gish preceded them both by about three months
fuck yeah
new album rules btw
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
sounding good so far.
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
Enya's "Shepard Moons" was released on the same day as Loveless, IIRC.
― the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
if Loveless never existed - this would be a masterpiece
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
MBV, i mean
What's striking is that irrespective of how much effort, hand-wringing, self-sabotage, and mysterious meticulousness went into this - it sounds like a band just doing their thing and kicking ass at it. If it didn't say "MBV" on it and was just some anonymous Bandcamp album featured on the When The Sun Hits blog, I'd still feel like "wow, these folks are onto something here."
More folks should listen to Isn't Anything anyway.
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
I was hesitant to listen to this, because what could possibly measure up to Loveless? And we've waited 20 years for this, but, you know, it's pretty damn good.
― Driver 8, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
"wow, these folks are onto something here"
es it mean you think it's great? good? ok?
― nostormo, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
"inspired" is probably what was meant
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
don't forget rftc
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
now is boc going to have a new one this year or what
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
twimc, i started a thread on only tomorrow, my fave song from mbv. any thoughts about it?
― miesepeter (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
i always thought the mbv arkestra was one of the best things he ever did. i haven't listened to it for years but the horn loop at the end is so incredible.― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And that crunching riff ~ 4mins, just this curled up thing that he zig-zags with those blasted horns, working higher and higher...
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's lovely that it sounds so much like them. That sounds daft but I mean, well, on first listening all those gorgeous guitar tones are there. I stood up and clapped when that ELEPHANT noise they do came in half way through the record.
This is odd. I hope after all the excitement we don't come back in 18 months and say LOOL this was a 6/10 at best.
― kraudive, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
For the record this is a 6/10 at best and i was here first.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
kind of like being the first guy to jump into the hole in the outhouse
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'd give it 8/10 which is after half a dozen listens
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
it will be better than 99% of all albums released this year.
― miesepeter (alex in mainhattan), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
i assume this has been posted, but the band uploaded all the songs to youtube
http://pitchfork.com/news/49344-my-bloody-valentine-share-new-album-mbv-site-crashes-check-out-cover-art-and-tracklist-now/
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
i didnt wait for another MBV album (although i love "Loveless") and after first listen it sounds like... nothing special really. if it was an album released by a new band i wouldnt even bother to give it a second try.
― a_fine_balance_, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
curious to release this the night before the superbowl
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
?? Do you think Kevin Shields gave American Football a second thought?
― kraudive, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
Am I missing sarcasm on the internet here?
― kraudive, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
no, but beyonce is performing tonight...
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
rumor has it dylan's replacing her
http://www.avclub.com/articles/bob-dylan-replaces-beyonce-as-super-bowl-halftime,91770/
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
makes u think
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
What a day for Editions Mego to announce the release of a new Main album
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
nd after first listen it sounds like... nothing special really. if it was an album released by a new band i wouldnt even bother to give it a second try.
challenging opinions 2013
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't entirely disagree with afb there.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
challenging opinions about people being whelmed-to-underwhelmed by the new mbv album
― a basset hound (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well, I wouldn't go as far as afb did but I'm pretty lukewarm, except for a couple of tracks. The tunes don't grab me as much, for the most part, and they don't seem to have added all that much to their sonic palette.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
in terms of unexpected updates from the standout figures of 1991, it's better than the paul gascoigne news
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
their sonic palette
which is more limited in my eyes than I think it is in most posters'.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
otoh, the sonic palate has greatly expanded; really enjoying the footlong quarter pound coney dog
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
Whole album is murky and soupy. Won't be revisiting.
― calstars, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
mmm soup
― mookieproof, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
Will it be possible to buy this not directly from the band?
― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
can't to hear this on vinyl. bet it'll sound as glorious as bish bosch
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
They've been singing about soup since Lose My Broth tbh
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
You Made Me Bouillabaise
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
Only Shallots
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
Chowder EP
― imago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
Soon (Tofu)
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
Several Girls Goulash
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
Feed Me With Your Bisque
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
I weirdly think a lot of these songs sound like BlurThe production is too nice and crisp for me to feel like I'm plunging into another world, but I like it fine!
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
Nearly 24 hours later since it landed. It was around 4am here when I got through on the website last night, and listened till 6am, bewildered, enticed, ecstatic for all the right reasons, and I fell asleep blissfully. Headache all day today but I won't blame MBV for that.
I've read the debate regarding first impressions, quick reviews, with interest. MBV are my favourite band by far, I waited for this album more than half of my life-time, like so many of us. I think it is nigh on impossible to not have some sort of reaction to it when you are in that position. When the whole body and mind wants to shout the excitement from the rooftops. It's a natural reaction I refuse to be cynical about. This goes for the 'track by track first impression' pieces too: it comes from love for music. And I don't think it will necessarily influence the discourse about the album in a negative way either.
I am not going to volunteer at my music website to review it, something I definiteky would have done in the past (lol old people). I just enjoy enjoying the fuck out of this for now, I like reading the various track by track reviews (like Ned's excellent Quietus piece), but will be cocooning with this album for a long time.
Perhaps it is not needing to have an opinion about this for a website/audience/media that feels liberating for once.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
nothing is . . .
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
The Third Eye Foundation references are spot on imho, in 'in another way' but mostly in the closer. Harsher beats, which somehow remind me of Portishead's 'Third'. Which makes it full circle in a Bristol kind of way.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 3 February 2013 22:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
My Bloody Mary For When I Have A really Bad Hangover from Drinking too Much Ballantine
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
Fuck I Meant BAlltine's with the apostrophe s I Messed up the joke Sorry everybody
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
Goddammnit
I am never listening to this band Ever again
shame on you
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
what the hell man get it together
― available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm not reviewing either - maybe close to year's end.
― Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
i've also decided not to review it. i love them too much, it would be terribly biased
― Z S, Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
i have reviewed this album, and i give it a good solid thumbs-up
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
peruvian ceviche is literally my favourite food ^_^
― ☯ t (wins), Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
― 乒乓, Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
A wise choice of cuisine.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
ya but peruvian ceviche is only my favourite food as a main dish. if it's gonna be an appetiser I'll take mex ceviche
christ I'm drunk. talk about the new bloody valentines album pls
― ☯ t (wins), Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wow, I've never tried ceviche. It sounds good.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Sunday, 3 February 2013 23:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
it is intensely weird listening to stuff that sounds anagramatic of previous mbv songs & textures & all but then a little way into the first song when it coheres & is doing something new sorta & you're kinda back in their ~emotional zone~ & weirdly linked to all the places you've been with that, it's pretty special― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:31 (18 hours ago) Permalink
Yup, then the album tears off into wild, unknown directions. More rhythmic than most of Loveless; and less looping with the the pop/melodic hooks that, to me, make Loveless so good. More sonically conscious. Looking forward to hearing this in another format other than Youtube to hear how this flows
― Eggs and the marketing board behind them, Monday, 4 February 2013 00:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
Ceviche is indeed all that, Sund4r, and you should investigate forthwith.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 February 2013 00:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
Often I wonder whether it's best to date or relax with a plate of fish cooking in lemon juice.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 February 2013 00:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
Dating is a dish best served cold.
Am I the only one mad enough to hear some at least superficial similarities betwixt "Wonder 2" and "Sugar Cystals" by Airiel/Schnauss?
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 00:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
Schnauss is something of the elephant in the electroshoegaze room isn't he
that said, he's a bit more housey and straightforward than what's going on in the last 3 tracks here - the ornate, savaged
― imago, Monday, 4 February 2013 00:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
yeah i'm hearing some schnauss here and there
― djembe v (electricsound), Monday, 4 February 2013 00:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah percussively more than anything. Schauss was always was more Cocteaus/Slowdive in sound than MBV.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 00:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
Glad to know I'm not the only one hearing Stereolab in this at places
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 4 February 2013 01:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
you know who kinda sounded like my bloody valentine AND stereolab? all natural lemon & lime flavors. and they haven't released a record in 15 years! the more you know...
― scott seward, Monday, 4 February 2013 02:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
Just finished my first listen to the album, and holy fucking shit! I think my favourites on this one are the ones where they go to extremes. On one hand: 'Is This And Yes' and 'New You', and on the other 'Nothing Is' (felt like my ears were being pummeled repeatedly... this is a good thing!) and 'Wonder 2' (wish that the phased/flanged drums at the end could have gone on for a bit longer). Having said that, 'Only Tomorrow' is a gem and I can definitely see 'If I Am' growing on me.
Less accessible than Loveless in terms of songs, I think, but perversely it seems a much easier listen(!)
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 02:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
all natural lemon and lime flavors are probably the best of the post-shoegaze peeps
― groundhog-enorme-toute-grosse-253x300.jpg (clouds), Monday, 4 February 2013 03:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
^ that is some good stuff. Those days when noisey stereolab was part of the equation..
― brimstead, Monday, 4 February 2013 04:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
What about color filter
― brimstead, Monday, 4 February 2013 04:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
argh I mean Flowchart!
― brimstead, Monday, 4 February 2013 04:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
color filter's "silent way" album craps all over flowchart
― djembe v (electricsound), Monday, 4 February 2013 04:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
kcrw played "she found now" tonight.
― johnny hit and run paul lynde (get bent), Monday, 4 February 2013 04:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
Those johnny come latelies er hold on...
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 February 2013 04:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
some great guitar sounds on this one
― ☕ (diamonddave85), Monday, 4 February 2013 04:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
damn fine guitar sounds, yes.
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Monday, 4 February 2013 04:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh man that mogwai remix linked upthread. i forgot how amazing that is. what's weird is when it came out i knew it was good, but i sort of thought that things like that would be appearing about equally impressive and intense and good or whatever 2-3 times a year until the unknown future. i had no idea.
― s.clover, Monday, 4 February 2013 05:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
^^ this
― am0n, Monday, 4 February 2013 07:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
otm, i think that's my favorite so far
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 4 February 2013 07:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― caek, Monday, 4 February 2013 07:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
"nothing is" is the standout for me thus far. The way it does something quite different for them, but familiar in sound if another band were to do it, and yet, still very MBV somehow?
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 07:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's great to my ears, and needs an extended remix à la Glider.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 4 February 2013 09:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
So um I'm no Ned or Matos or anything but I wrote up a review of this on my lil blog.http://memorygongs.com/scratchings/?p=49
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 11:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
Whoa!Are you sure you want to go there?http://memorygongs.com/scratchings/?p=49 may be risky to visit.
Why were you redirected to this page?
When we visited this site, we found it exhibited one or more risky behaviors.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 4 February 2013 12:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
I took the chance. Fuck you, McAfee.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 4 February 2013 12:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
erm wait, did you seriously get a virus warning? if so I need to review my websites settings.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 12:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
i have mcafee too and just about everything gets that notice!
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 12:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
all music blogs i mean
woke up sunday morning with a massive hangover, the emotional kind, the kind where you're easily bent out of shape by external stimuli. headphones on, did the parkland walk up to alexandra palace, listened to it three or four times, kept making me :') can't really ask for more. it's exactly what i expected and that's certainly no bad thing.
― Crackle Box, Monday, 4 February 2013 12:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
Phew thats ok then, I got told when I installed an SQL database and wordpress that i'd be mad open to hackattax Ive no clue how to ward off, so.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 12:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
I know I'm late to the party here, but I finally listened to this and really enjoyed it.
― Ulna (Nicole), Monday, 4 February 2013 13:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
same here - as other people have said, i'm surprised by how un-fussed over and fresh it all sounds. I could see why people would describe the songs as demos. Although the whole thing might feel a little bit like a collection of odds & ends, I think they did the right thing in avoiding the "grand statement" LP a la Loveless.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 4 February 2013 13:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't think it sounds like a collection of odds and ends at all. I've read people say that quite a bit in various places online, but I disagree - the album is very much a start-to-finish experience for me as Loveless is. There's nothing that's jarring about the sequencing, in fact the album sounds perfectly sequenced to my ears. I think folks are letting this whole "recorded on and off over a period of time" thing colour their judgement of the record. It may have been recorded on and off in fits and starts, but the end result doesn't really sound like that to me.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 13:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
I admit I'm a little put off that after two decades of incubation/meditation, Shields really hasn't moved that far in any new directions.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2013 14:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
I was unable to purchase with a credit card but PayPal worked fine.
My speakers on my computer suck goat ass so I burned a CD which I am playing on my somewhat-better stereo speakers.
I like what I hear but it will require more listens. Which is fine since I am not on a deadline for enjoyment anymore.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 4 February 2013 14:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
It would have been a perfect album for "four years after Loveless", not so much if it had come out the following year after Loveless.
Now, it sounds fine to me...
(Mind you, it does seem a very long time ago my local indie retailler tipped me an advance copy of the "Tremolo" e.p. 12" white label, having raved over "Soon", it puzzled me no end, but I kept going back to it, and by the time "Loveless" came out, I was right there. Mind you, the shop had long gone...
(xpost, me too)
― Mark G, Monday, 4 February 2013 14:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
<q>the album sounds perfectly sequenced to my ears</q>You know what - I think otoh that the sequencing itself could be better - I find the opening one (sorry im still struggling with titles, just like I'm still struggling after 22 years with those on Loveless) to be a bit out of place and sleepy as an opener.Anyway, so far the only song I'm still not feeling is the Dots & Loops one which I find pretty tedious.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 4 February 2013 14:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
I think the opening track would have got lost anywhere but where it is.
― Mark G, Monday, 4 February 2013 14:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
"is this and yes"
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 4 February 2013 14:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
"you never her"
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 14:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 4 February 2013 14:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
she found now only tomorrow. if i am in another way wonder 2, who sees you?
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 4 February 2013 14:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2013/feb/04/album-stream-bullet-for-my-valentine
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 15:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't really know who Bullet for My Valentine is, but you'd have to think they found out My Bloody Valentine was releasing their first album in 22 years during the ramp up to the release of their own and thought "FUCK! THAT HAD TO COME RIGHT NOW?"
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
a shitty but hugely popular metalcore band
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 15:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
who sell more records than my bloody valentine
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 15:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
well, only because they release them more frequently.
― :C (crüt), Monday, 4 February 2013 15:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
i don't know anything about bullet for my valentine, but i'm sure they're just like "who are my bloody valentine? oh well we're rich"
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
Chart Race! My Bloody Valentine vs Bullet for my Valentine
we shall see...
― Mark G, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
NickB otm
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
OK i finally listened to it the whole way through on headphones. I get the demo comment now, but also a big part of the charm of this album is - as someone noted above - how fresh it sounds. "Loveless" is so meticulous, it's like listening in to a space capsule. Here, you have one sound that literally sounds like KS got a bunch of loops and is mixing the tune live, turning up the volume a little bit, maybe punching in another loop, then cranking the track so it's a noisey and distorted drone. The last half of the record stands out with its noiser bits. At one point it sounds like there is nothing but drums and one crazy noise guitar playing together.
Thing is, even on the songs where there's not really a whole lot there to grab on to, there almost always ends up being a guitar sound, or a solo or, or a synth part, or SOMETHING really wonderful and interweaving and glorious coming in at the end of the song. There were many times where all of a sudden something would happen on a track I was just droning out on and take it to a whole new awesome place.
This record is way great. I spend over half my life waiting for it and am NOT disappointed.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 15:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
Actually, I thought the 'analogue remaster' of Loveless has something in common with this one: It sounds like the band....
― Mark G, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
The noisier tracks on this are WONDERFUL.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 15:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
I am listening on headphones and the whirring of the dishwasher in the kitchen is bleeding into the sound when the volume gets all quiet and it's actually quite exhilarating, though I know that haters would see that as a gotcha comment.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 4 February 2013 15:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
My wife made me turn it off yesterday, which means Shields must have done something right. My kids were nonplussed.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's possible that you're still listening to the fake vacuum cleaner leak
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
At least then she'd think I was cleaning!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
hahaha
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 15:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
I've only listened to it once and I like it (apart from 'nothing is').
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 February 2013 16:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Mark G, Monday, February 4, 2013 2:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yep, I pretty much agree with this. There's nowhere else on the album I could imagine it going, and while it's no 'Only Shallow' in terms of album openers (then again, what IS?), at least it doesn't get lost and people will give the track a chance where it is.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 16:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, February 4, 2013 4:07 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've seen a few people get a bit down on that track, even going as far as calling it 'filler'. Personally, I find the pounding, relentless momentum of it very exciting.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 16:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
I like it too. It works well leading into Wonder 2.
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
And after whatever comes before it... that really good one. I forget what it's called.
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
I love how experimental this record is. Like, I want to see chord progression charts for these songs, they would probably make no sense at all.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 16:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
Really? Aside from "In another way" it sounds straight forward to me.This record sounds great when played next to the Tremolo EP imo
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Nothing is" repeats every 28 measures (you can tell, there's a guitar flub)
― Mark G, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
so we've got the loveless outtakes collection now, when's this new album out
― am0n, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
My only beef is if they wait as long again to put out another record I'll be almost 60.
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 4 February 2013 16:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
Late to the party as usual, downloaded last night and played twice today. It sounds like MBV, what's the problem? I do think there's too many mid tempo songs at the start of the album, but the tempos generally speed up as it progresses, and the volume increases too. As someone else has said it makes a good follow up to the "Tremelo" EP, seeing as "Loveless" seemed to step back from the brink of experimentation of that EP. I enjoyed it more the second time, and I think I'll enjoy it more each time I listen. It won't gain them any new fans, but existing fans should be pleased with it.
And trying to have a discussion about the band and new album with my wife while also trying to discourage my 6 yr old son from saying the word "Bloody" because it's "a rude word" is bloody difficult. :)
― Rob M Revisited, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
m b v
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 16:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
they considered you and your son in advance, just call them m b v!
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
We did in the end.
― Rob M Revisited, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
Anybody else hearing a lil' bit of Deerhoof in the vocals of "In Another Way"??
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
Really? Aside from "In another way" it sounds straight forward to me.
To me as well, but I only listened once or twice to the Youtubes. I think I'd find it more interesting if I noticed unusual harmonic progressions. Where are you hearing these?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
nothing is = techno?
― am0n, Monday, 4 February 2013 17:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
nothing is = industrial skiffle
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
it's the midpoint between Lonnie Donegan and the Young Gods
there's one track on this that totally steals the guitar sound from Can's 'I Want More' amirite?
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
i think i mean the song 'new you'
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
it's kind of bo diddley in space
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Is This and Yes" is a pretty weird progression. "In Another Way" has kind of a weird progression. At the very least those bagpipe guitars are some abrasive and non-straightforward stuff. I don't know, maybe it's just all the arrangements that gave me that impression. Just feels alot more chaotic than "Loveless" to me.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
Bo Diddley in space yeah. Last night on headphones i was getting a "2001: Space Odyssey" done by Noise Disney.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
Like, "New You" is cool, it's definitely got a Stereolab vibe for a bit. Maybe it's not that adventurous of a song but it's just great to hear this band again. Check out how the guitar tremelo is perfectly lined up with the drums. Is there only one guitar there? I love the looping of her vocals at the end, especially that little bit at the end of the phrase where she sings "do do do" a little slower and it almost cuts off and then the loop just starts back up again. SO GREAT!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:51 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Nothing Is" is fucking awesome. This is what i mean by experimental. They could have done with a more straight-ahead krautrock beat rather than this bizarre two-step which is kind of just whipping around the rhythm. Feel like I heard there was gonna be this cool noise band playing a house show and I show up and the lights are all off and everyone is standing around getting wasted in the dark watching as Kevin turns on a strobe light and maybe a noise TV and then starts punching up this stuff on a sampler.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 17:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
I feel like the craft of making this record really shows throughout. It's as much about making the record as the record itself.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
AV Club gives it an 'A' http://www.avclub.com/articles/my-bloody-valentine-mbv,91978/?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=feeds&utm_source=avclub_rss_daily
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
'A-'
― MarkoP, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
About the chord progressions: I hear a lot of sus4 (and possibly 7sus4) type-chords, specifically New You, but also in a lot of the other songs.
On another note: loving this record from start to finish.
― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
DJ at Bush Tetras show last night was playing this in between bands. Sounded fantastic loud.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
"If anything, it takes the pulped angel corpse that is Loveless and feeds it back into the machine for one more spin around the macrocosm."
― you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
good album
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
Industrial skiffle otm, and I tried to think of something to say about the harmonic choices that wouldn't turn into "The Driest Post On ILM" but I couldn't so nm
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 4 February 2013 18:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't usually expect much from the AV club music crits, but that is a pretty decent review.
xps
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Monday, 4 February 2013 18:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
beginning my first listen now
excited!
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
I was pretty disappointed in some of the production choices at first but it's grown on me. I'd still like to hear more rhythm section and a little less control in places. If "In Another Way" was a hair more chaotic it might be one of my songs of the year.One thing I've noticed (and I think this was mentioned upthread - It's not a recording for headphones. It needs actual physical space for context. I have expensive in-ears I invested in (so it's not a frequency range thing) which were how I chose to listen to the record for most of yesterday, Only when I played it on speakers a few times did I really start to feel an affinity for it.
― Oblique Strategies, Monday, 4 February 2013 19:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
i dunno - I've been listening to it on a big, bulky pair of Sennheiser NC cans & it sounds pretty fucking great!
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
It could be personal taste. It sounds overly claustrophobic in headphones to me. All close mic'd / DI'd. There's not much air in the recording.
― Oblique Strategies, Monday, 4 February 2013 19:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, i was sitting there with the headphone on and it sounded great. Then every so often i would be "Aw, he should have mixed the drums louder here" and then i realized this dude probably mixed this a hundred different ways and this end result is _the way it is supposed to sound_. The drums are supposed to slip into the distance. Stuff is supposed to blend together.
Maybe if "Loveless" came out now there would be complaints "WTF this guy doesn't know how to mix, how come i can't hear what they're singing?"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
haha, pretty sure the reaction back in 1991 was similar
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 19:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
"the tape is warped!"
I like to imagine there are a few songs on here where there were 30+ tracks of guitar and this year he just decided to wipe them all and do the solo with a single noise guitar sound that has been perfected over 20 years.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
this is wonderful so far
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
One thing I've noticed (and I think this was mentioned upthread - It's not a recording for headphones. It needs actual physical space for context
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
what? it sounds great on headphones!
― :C (crüt), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't think sounding good on speakers means an album is not a recording for headphones
Yup, I've listened to this solely on headphones and I've no complaints at all.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 19:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
last three tracks specifically benefit from headphones imo
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's not a recording for headphones. It needs actual physical space for context
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://sickmouthy.com/2013/02/04/repetition-is-a-form-of-change-my-bloody-valentine-loveless-and-what-to-make-of-mbv-after-less-than-48-hours/
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm waiting with baited breath to play the CD through my proper speakers.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
a little less control in places
yeah, super uptight for an album of noise-bliss
― j., Monday, 4 February 2013 20:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, February 4, 2013 8:03 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Absolutely. I can't imagine the last two sounding anywhere near as exciting through speakers as they do through headphones.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
It sounds okay on big speakers but I wasn't really in a position to play it loudly enough. I suspect I'll get a lot more out of it on headphones.
― Matt DC, Monday, 4 February 2013 20:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
if you your speakers properly placed, on stands, and sort of pointed in a V pattern towards the chair you're sitting it, you really do get a lot of those stereo effects you associate with headphones on speakers
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
i've only listened on headphones, it sounds great
this band is so weird to find a volume for, they have this odd effect of being quiet and super loud at the same time that i can't quite put in words
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
yeah i don't generally listen to music superloud on headphones but this morning i on my first listen i kept turning it up more and more
― congratulations (n/a), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
The first couple of times I played the album, it was on computer speakers, played at a low-to-moderate volume. A lot of it just seemed like ambient noise. Not an entirely bad thing, but headphones opened it up a lot for me.
― jaymc, Monday, 4 February 2013 20:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
Last night as I was listening loudly on headphones i was wondering maybe i should just put it on my speakers and turn it down really low.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
i'm really fucking enjoying this...maybe even more than some because i like MBV but i don't have a ton invested in them other than, like they were a band that i heard in college and liked, like a lot of bands i thought were good and unique...
honest to god there's times i almost want to challops and say this is their best album but probably just because it's new
that will probably fade but overall this sounds like MBV and is good and i don't know how anyone could have possibly expected anything more
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, this is as good as you could expect from any band after 22 years, especially a formerly gamechanging one.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm still wishing the phased/flanged drum loop right at the end of 'Wonder 2' went on for a bit longer!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
i'm trying to ignore the 22 year thing when i listen to this, and just treat it as a third album by a band i like. the way it comes across as more loose, more fun than loveless really shines for me through that lens.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 4 February 2013 20:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
It definitely sounds like a helicopter taking off at the end. The only thing bad about this album is that it's too short.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 20:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
i've seen the "it's too short" criticism a few times, which is funny because even though i agree, it's 45 minutes long!
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
really? it seems a lot shorter
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
i'm trying to ignore the 22 year thing when i listen to this
Me too, although I am interested in the effect this has. Thinking about what how the reception would've differed if it had come out in '94, '97, '05 and now.
But yes, if you think about the 22 years, it's hard to not want it to be 7.3x better than Loveless.
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
I do wonder if this will win over anyone who wasn't already converted. 2012 might be timely - a lot of dream pop is getting attention, a lot of the people who are listening to it weren't even alive when Loveless came out!
― Z S, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
i like your review nick, especially as it has that preliminary stamp written all over it, it is amazingly modest of a critic admittig that he/she hasn't parsed the object of criticism yet and needs some more time. one small question concerning the review of "summer sun" and some other yo la tengo albums a couple of weeks ago. was there a reason you never published my comment or did the bot put it into the spam comment bin?
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 21:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
is that 909 percussion I’m hearing on ‘New You'? I think it might just be, especially the open hi-hats.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
Agreed, this seems to fly by in a flash
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 4 February 2013 21:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
I've listened to this like 5 times today so far.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
just the play stats of the songs of the new album on the mbv youtube cannel, i am surprised about the clear lead of "she found now". it probably has to do with the faact that it is the fisr song, after that most people just seem to give up.
she found now 239.229only toorrow 95.500wonder 2 87.613who sees you 82.964is another way 50.834new you 50.209nothing is 39.763is this and yes 37.238if i am 37.137
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
Woah Wonder 2 is doing well.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's so crazy. From the first time I heard "Loveless" til i met someone else who had was years. And now you can look up exactly 87,613 people listened to "Wonder 2".
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
^^ OTM to the OTM'est of OTM's
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
wonder what last.fm stats are
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
the album has one listener on last.fm, presumably me
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
I think it'll take a while for the new scrobbles to settle.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://www.last.fm/labs/popularrightnow
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, I've just had a look and the information on each song isn't showing up for me yet.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
On another listen last night, it struck me that the craziness of the last 3 tracks, but in particular "in another way", gave me a similar sonic experience than the one I had the first time I heard "DI Go Pop" (the song not the album) by Disco Inferno. And then it occurred to me that the main sampled riff in DI Go Pop is an MBV guitar riff....
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
Those stats look pretty standard. It's basically the sequence of the album top to bottom but with the tracks that seem to have been mentioned most bumped up the list. I think Wonder 2 is the track most people mention. Strangest thing is how many people skip If I am.
― Oblique Strategies, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
fuckin lumineers
― mookieproof, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
'If I Am' is such a grower.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
Its "is this and yes" that leaves me the most "meh", but I think its a context thing. In the right ambient surroundings it'd be pleasing but buried in this album it just feels like an odd, droning pause.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:30 (4 months ago) Permalink
I see tracks like 'Is This And Yes' and 'New You' as moments of relief, for want of a better term. Placed in the albums sequence to allow the listeners to catch their breath a little bit.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
'New You' especially, gives the listener a little bit of time to clear their minds out in preparation for the sonic onslaught of the last three tracks.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:33 (4 months ago) Permalink
That just assumes kids these days actually listen to albums all the way through like they're supposeter >:|
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
Alex, I honestly don't know what happened to your comment on Yo La Tengo; it's not in my list now but I always approve everything not trying to sell drugs! Please make it again if you want to and I'll keep an eye out for it.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
Is that a mellotron on "New You"? Sounds like a mellotron flute sample.
I LOVE the rewinding thing that follows "If I Am". The wah guitar is so cool. And the '90s beats of this thing are amazing. Sooner or later someone was bound to come up with the perfect '90s retro record and i think this is it!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
But recording the drums live was a good idea, it doesn't sound consciously affected to sound retro. The songwriting is just timeless My Bloody Valentine. This record could have come out in 2093.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
The coldness of "Is This and Yes" contrasts nicely with the previous tracks. It's like a moment of stillness leading into the album's low-intensity second act.
― jim, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
the cover art really is amazingly ugly. especially the violet mbv lettering. don't they have an art director or somethig?
nick, i made that comment at least two times, apparently it got lost in the aether. it really doesn't matter and i am happy that it wasn't you who deleted it.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yes, it's bloody awful. I made my own classier one to replace it:
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
It's because Kevin just made us this awesome mixtape called "mbv" and he dropped it on the internet and while it was uploading made this in photoshop.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
Please tell me that's a Lost in Translation background.
― jim, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
Oh that would've been a good idea, but unfortunately it's just a photo I accidentally took once.
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 22:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
I love the artwork. Place it side by side with Loveless, and it all makes sense.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
On RateYourMusic at this moment, top rated album of 2013 is Riverside's Shrine of New Generation Slaves, 3.74 from 305 ratings.
If you drill down to M B V, already its at 3.77 from 1446 ratings. Ie, enough ratings in 1 day to give it a lock in the top 5 RYM albums were it released in 2012.
― with perhaps the exception of r-r-r-r-rhythm (Sanpaku), Monday, 4 February 2013 22:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'll probably got shot for this, but it's better than the Glider EP cover.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
I love the artwork. Place it side by side with /Loveless/, and it all makes sense.
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
yes
― imago, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
but that blue is a little too blue if you know what i mean. at least they could have used a paler or darker blue but not the most standard, canonic, unimaginative blue around.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
Maybe it is International Klein Blue.
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
I like that it's a deep, deep blue. I know this probably wasn't the intention, but my first thought when I saw the blue cover was that typically in developing languages the first color words to be produced are contrasting words for light/white and dark/black, followed closely by a word for red; a word for blue comes much later. Thus we have the covers for Isn't Anything, Loveless, and mbv. Sorry I know this thread is dorked-out enough.
― :C (crüt), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
not ikb at all.
― s.clover, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
Whoa
x post
― Keith, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
Oh shit there's a new Fall Out Boy single?!?!? Thanks ilm.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
― ☯ t (wins), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
Went to the youtube full album trove to get a bead on the number of plays but this shit has been WEB SHERIFFED
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
You guys have seen this detail of the cover right?
http://www.thisisfakediy.co.uk/images/uploads/mbv970600.jpg
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
nothing is this and yes i really love you
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
feel like this cover will be a lot cooler on the vinyl
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh yeah, you won't be able to see half that shit on the cd either
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
but my first thought when I saw the blue cover was that typically in developing languages the first color words to be produced are contrasting words for light/white and dark/black, followed closely by a word for red; a word for blue comes much later. Thus we have the covers for Isn't Anything, Loveless, and mbv. Sorry I know this thread is dorked-out enough.
You nerd <3
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
ok, now everybody seems to be enjoying the new album. great.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Monday, 4 February 2013 23:53 (4 months ago) Permalink
There really isn't much to see pixel-peeping at the 2400x2400 jpeg (looking at the blue channel only, enhancing contrast). All the members of the band, a studio with A1 sized prints of brick walls taped to the walls, a few shots through the window of a mediterranean tiled roofs. The cover of the You Made Me Realize EP appears on the left margin.
I'm not seeing any hidden messages. Just pictures pinned to white walls, rephotographed and overlayed as semi transparent layers in 'shop, rendered at max saturation in hue 238.
― with perhaps the exception of r-r-r-r-rhythm (Sanpaku), Monday, 4 February 2013 23:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh shit yes
― Jaap and roids (NickB), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 00:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
just burned a disc of the mp3s, should be interesting to hear it tonight on my stereo
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 00:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
I think there are a lot of low quality jpgs of the cover floating around, it looks much better crisp.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
Are there any stray mp3s out on blogs?
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 01:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
This is getting better the more I hear it, although the three tracks that stood way out on first listen (2, 7, 9) still stand way out, maybe even wayer
― imago, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 02:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
See whereas I hear the album as in 3 clear "acts" (which I think I touched on in my blogpost thingy)
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 03:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
just put this on my iPhone :D
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 03:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
This thread is so much fun to read from the beginning
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 03:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
hah thanks for making me re-read my account of the nyc shows from '08
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
"who sees you" has so much in common with "only shallow". the initial drums start-ups, the squealing elephant guitars. those last 3 minutes are occasionally cathartic, whereas i always felt "only shallow" was a novel song but one of my least listened to as it treats those said elephant squeals as having no real emotional basis but rather something to set the listener's head off in surprise with. "who sees you" i wish were longer, with that high-note held in perpetual motion, allowed to ring endlessly.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
also worth noting that this album has had me access itunes for the first time in what feels like a year since signing up for spotify premium
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:21 (4 months ago) Permalink
quick thought: feels like "nothing is" was created solely for the live performances. i imagine KS adores the idea of killing his audience with love, but after so many holocaust sections he naturally is tired of going through the ordeal each and every show. as such "nothing is" is a song that is underscored right now but will be met with a huge amount of masochistic fanfare come touring. in sense filler, but only in this immediate environment. we forget that MBV is as much a ear-bursting live experience as they are suitable for solitary headphone confinement.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
By the way here's the whole album cover cleaned up (as above) for inspection.
Still have the audiophile earplugs I bought after the '92 Houston show left my ears ringing for two days.
― with perhaps the exception of r-r-r-r-rhythm (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
Oooh, Amoeba Music t-shirt
― Brakhage, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Is This and Yes" is a pretty weird progression. "In Another Way" has kind of a weird progression.
Hearing that.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
I just heard much of this in a pub just now, remarkable how warm and fuzzy it is, even the Stereolab-y track sounded like comfort food. We were wondering if the lack of top end was a product of long days in studio, rolling it off as your ears get tired. Or maybe he mixed it in a pub. Either way: good pub record
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
also worth noting that this album has had me access itunes for the first time in what feels like a year since signing up for spotify premium― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:21 (44 minutes ago)
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 04:21 (44 minutes ago)
― Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
Or maybe you don't mean you went to the iTunes store, you mean you used the program called iTunes.
― Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:20 (4 months ago) Permalink
Sorry, meant itunes the application. I also kinda assumed we had all come to equal consensus that the store, like the program, were dead things.
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
goontie: yeah comfort food is what i thought partic with the first three tracks, I called it "mashed potatoes"!
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:32 (4 months ago) Permalink
rejected cover:
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
https://twitter.com/brandonstosuy/status/298104192642461696
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 05:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
lol barf
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 06:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
headphones + weed
― ☏ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 06:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
am3n
― ☕ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 06:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
Exact same for me. Although the process for getting it on there was torturous and resulted in itunes deleting all the music I had on already. Oh well, what other music matters right now?
― Internet Alan, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 09:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
The first three tracks are probably the weakest, they mostly sound like Loveless but not as good. I'm not sure quite what I expected after 22 years but it wasn't really a retreat into comfort zone. It really takes off after that though and the second half is amazing.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 09:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
The first three tracks are like a nice warm reassuring hug. No, probably not as good as owt on Loveless, but pleasant nonetheless. Agreed that it gets really good from thereon in, though. Wonder 2 is an amazing way to end it.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 09:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
I get the feeling that "nice warm reassuring hug" is not really the point of MBV though.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 10:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
I don't.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 10:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
I think it's part of the point of Loveless, as a record. The live experience is obviously different. I've always thought one of the best things about Loveless is that its character changes quite dramatically depending on the volume you play it at; low, it's a soothing balm. High, it's something else entirely.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 10:23 (4 months ago) Permalink
Loveless may feel comforting NOW but it certainly didn't when it was released. Or at least it didn't until you'd got past the alienating bits, even if that only took one listen.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 10:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
― Matt DC, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 5:03 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you're right, it's "nice warm reassuring fuck"
― :C (crüt), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 11:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
Just filed a 500 word of this without mentioning Isn't Anything/Loveless - have i ballsed up?
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 11:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
Well, I'll let y'all judge:http://crackmagazine.net/music/my-bloody-valentine/
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 11:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
nice!
― Crackle Box, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 12:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
CHeers - I think it's alright for something written whilst sat behind the till serving customers.
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 13:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
feels like "nothing is" was created solely for the live performances.
It was created to allow me to sneak some MBV into a techno set.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 13:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
The first three tracks are probably the weakest, they mostly sound like Loveless but not as good.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 13:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
I’ve realised that Only Tomorrow really reminds me of the direction The Pastels took in about '97, around the same time he did them a remix. I fact I can remember standing in front of Kevin and Debbie at a Pastels gig at The Garage around then.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
The best remix he did I think:
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 14:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
Okay, so after numerous listens in headphones, speakers and in the car, I can confirm that I really, really like this album.
It took 22 years for My Bloody Valentine to get a new album out, so it maybe shouldn't be a shock that it takes a few songs for "mbv" to establish itself. Once it gets its legs, it's a masterpiece. If the beginning pays tribute to the band's past, the final three tracks - the military percussion battering shimmering guitars on "In Another Way," the thrashing interlude "Nothing Is" and the underwater-like dreamscape of album closer "Wonder 2" make both waits worth it. Bilinda Butcher's impact, if not input, on the album cannot be overstated.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
Right, I have listened to it three times now.
Will put it away, until I get the proper LP/CD package...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 16:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
I've listened to this probably a dozen times now. I absolutely love it, warts and all. What a great album.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
yeah im gonna wait til the lp arrives too i think now. 3 or 4 plays is enough for now, i want to hear it properly.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
the lp will never arrive& the bitrate of the mp3s will deteriorate by 1kbps each passing dayuntil you are leftwith just a shadowof somethingyou barely got to hold on to
― schlump, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
Man, that's so heavy.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
so any guesses who's getting remix duties?
nm, should prob start another thread for that
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
burned a disc of the mp3s last nite and listened to it on my good speakers and cd player....really amazing to hear it a bit louder on speakers
aside from questions of songs, arrangement, tones, etc...this might be heresy but i think this is a better PRODUCED & engineered record than loveless...the mixes are just expertly done, i think the drums sound better across the board than loveless and the way he's made the vocals sit in the mix is just masterful, they are much clearer in a way but still feel very soft and a part of the overall whoosh of the music...he really got better since loveless, honestly, i wouldn't mind if he got the masters of loveless and did a new mix of it just for shits and giggles, would maybe be the highlight of 2024
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 17:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
well, check out the analogue disc of Loveless, I do think it makes all the difference
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
did that ever come out in the U.S.? i never saw it around :(
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:09 (4 months ago) Permalink
So... "if I am" is really good for sunrises. I came down ill and took today off, subsequently staying in my window facing bed when id usually be taking a shower and headed out. The nonchalance, the warmness, the slow progression... really kinda made for a kinda unbelievable complement to seeing the sun progress through the gaps in the trees.
:)
― kelpolaris, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
Hoping to get more of this sound, I checked out XTRMNTR. Pretty disappointed by that one. I don't get it...if there's anything to get. Too harsh and the vocals do nothing for me.
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
primal scream is a pretty shitty band for the most part
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:12 (4 months ago) Permalink
I believe none of the MBV remasters had a North American release.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
I came here to say what Mark G said.
I've been listening to m b v since Sunday morning; on headphones, car speakers, regular speakers.
Then I took out the REMASTERED ANALOGUE version of Loveless. Sonically, m b v makes more sense this way; not so with the first mastering of Loveless or the CD remastering. Both have their charm and purpose, but from what I've read, I always interpreted Shields's words as favouring the remastered analogue version.
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the analogue and non-analogue versions of Loveless, but I think I got a dodgy torrent or something because people all say the analogue is obviously superior. I have decent speakers and a good ear, or maybe I only thought I did...
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the analogue and non-analogue versions of Loveless― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:28 PM
neither did i, i think ppl are kidding themselves here
― ☏ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:34 (4 months ago) Permalink
also this "new" album is just loveless outtakes
― ☏ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
A quick practical note: I couldn't get the direct-purchased MP3s to work on my (non-Apple) player, and noticed some weird behaviour in things like VLC too - hanging, odd blank space in the scroll bar etc. Mentioned this to a friend, and he'd had similar problems; he did some tinkering and discovered that, for reasons best known to Kev, the MP3 tags included a 3MB version of the album art for each file. I'd wondered why they were so huge, and this explains why my Flash based player was struggling. Used mp3tag to strip these elements out, and all fine.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
"Chinese Democracy"
― The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
LOL that is perhaps the most insane revelation on this thread yet!
― there were chinchillas, these weird little rat animals, in cages (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
I played both versions back-to-back, with direct "5 seconds on one album" and another few seconds of the other and, yes, I could tell the difference. Some parts are more subtle than others. If I was at a get-together and heard the album in loud speakers, I don't think I would be able to say, "Shit, man, that's the REMASTERED ANALOGUE version of Loveless!"
Shields has said himself it's more of the sensation and feeling you get listening to it. As a person who has recorded in studios (on analogue and digitally), I have to agree. There is no other way to explain it. That's why you get more into it in good smallish speakers in smallish rooms or on a good pair of cans.
IMHO
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm really satisfied with this album.
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
i wish the 320 mp3s were louder. will try w/ the WAV files tonite :-[
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:08 (4 months ago) Permalink
I doubt the wavs would be any louder. Seems like they'd just have a cleaner high end.
― :C (crüt), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
they are mastered fairly low too
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
^^^lol
― schlump, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
i wish maresa elliene or whatever she is called now would record a track called 'opinions about my bloody valentine on the internet'
― every soulless meta poster is a ✰ (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
Er, dude turn the volume dial?
x-post
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
<i>I'm really satisfied with this album.</i>
I wholeheartedly agree. Never expected anything this good.
― Marty8501 (Marty Innerlogic), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:17 (4 months ago) Permalink
Damn,, BBCode...
Er, dude turn the volume dial?x-post― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 9:15 AM (19 minutes ago)
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 9:15 AM (19 minutes ago)
its maxed, dude
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
and switching over to my 320kps copy of Loveless its immediately louder
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
Great!
― Creames Fartpoop, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
Bill A - thanks for that revelation, explains why my Sansa Clip struggles with the new Yo La Tengo - there's a 9MB image on those.
― useless chamber, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:38 (4 months ago) Permalink
i wish the 320 mp3s were louder― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, February 5, 2013 2:08 PM
agreeeeed. like yes i can turn the shit up thx for the tip but then going to any other album in itunes i have to adjust it back down. i guess he didn't want his 22yr old baby louderized
― ☏ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
loaded it up in audacity to check; looks like the only tracks that come even close to peaking are the last two.
― :C (crüt), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
so yeah, the record could have been louder. except for those two tracks.
I have to say I would pay dear money for a written account of the making of this album, esp the final stretch. So many questions - why not wait for the gimmicky Valentine's day release, why the surprise drop and did KS really not know the exact day of release a week ago? The way the album arrived seemed so improvised, considering the wait and the perfectionism of its creator - just wondering how much of that was for show
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
yeah it ramps up on those last 2 xp
― ☏ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
baaderonix otm
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 19:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
the wavs were loud enough imo
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:00 (4 months ago) Permalink
I was 6 when loveless came out so although I think these guys are ok I never like got my head wrecked by the dreamwave revolution or whatevs. Having listened to this a few times though I have to say I'm won over by how pretty it is. Starting about halfway thru the second track I keep getting a strong feeling of "man I wish I was on €¢$ta$y right now", which is about the last thing I expected.
― ☯ t (wins), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
did anyone else noticed the lack of concrete nouns in the song-titles (except for "you" "she" and "i"?
― nostormo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
i guess that's true for Loveless too
― nostormo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:22 (4 months ago) Permalink
If you think it's not loud enough, buy a better amplifier.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
is there an app for that
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:25 (4 months ago) Permalink
You should stand closer to the speaker
― Z S, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
gr8080 be careful don't damage your hearing
― downton arby (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:42 (4 months ago) Permalink
what?
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
sorry.
if he ever was in a MBV gig it's too late
― nostormo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
agreeeeed. like yes i can turn the shit up thx for the tip but then going to any other album in itunes i have to adjust it back down.
Have you tried:http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/
?
― Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
I wish more albums were mastered like this.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
Damn right.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:57 (4 months ago) Permalink
It moves, it swells, you can turn it up and up and up and it just envelopes you, gets bigger and wider and clearer without ever getting uncomfortable.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
sounds somewhat erotic..lol
― nostormo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 20:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
Are you listening through your phone? Get a better amp!
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
Wonder 2 was stuck in my head today - the chord-sequence, psychedelic and beatific, launching into a glorious and slightly incomprehensible future - the skittering, untameable drums - the guitars trying to keep up and sometimes succeeding - brilliant, brilliant song.
― imago, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
like yes i can turn the shit up thx for the tip but then going to any other album in itunes i have to adjust it back down.
And this is why most albums sound shit sonically in the 21st century.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 21:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
I swear I couldn't tell the difference between the analogue and non-analogue versions of Loveless― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, February 5, 2013 1:28 PMneither did i, i think ppl are kidding themselves here― ☏ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:34 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― ☏ (am0n), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 18:34 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Well,I expected no difference, but I wouldn't bother with the old DAT mastered version now
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:27 (4 months ago) Permalink
Don’t forget that some copies where mis-labelled.
― Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 22:46 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah there's no way I had to blast this on full as long as I used my good audiotechnica heaphones. On my shite old broken sornys it sounded really quiet and muddy. Its so odd, the difference it makes!
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
Is it not deliberately quiet? It gets noticeably louder during Nothing Is and stays that way. To make that happen, you'd have to have been quiet to start with.
― Keith, Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
Its certainly got nice dynamic range compared to Loveless.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Tuesday, 5 February 2013 23:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
why not wait for the gimmicky Valentine's day release,
the way the site fucked up as it is, you think it would have gone more smoothly when they were on tour on the other side of the planet?
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 00:02 (4 months ago) Permalink
I love the new album and I'm thinking back to the other night in Brixton. I was drunk but it seemed I couldn't tell what a few of the songs were. I think the band recognised there was serious problems with the sound - but ever since the first reunion gigs I've thought you really can't tell what they're playing very well UNLESS you know the songs, the vocal melodies etc. beforehand.
Maybe the gigs will change. The "holocaust" (ugh) was very short at Brixton. Hopefully they'll move on. I'd love if they turned down from 11.
― kraudive, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 00:31 (4 months ago) Permalink
the coolest thing seeing them last time wasn't how loud it was - though that was obviously focal because of how loud it was - but just how good it sounded. & it is edifying to hear kevin so enthusiastic about that side of things, having enough money to get a PA that meets their needs, &c. i was just remembering going to an atp they curated & getting to see all the other groups who played on their bill play through their system - so like dinosaur jr sounding just deeply loud & heavy.
― schlump, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 00:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
That 2nd room at ATP Minehead could sound great - esp. when Portishead played there and pretty much destroyed me. That might be the best sound at a gig I've ever heard. But MBV didn't really do it for me that much there. I guess it was because I saw them play at the ICA a week or so before - a small white box room - for the first time in my life and... well, that blew me away.
I'd love to read stories of people seeing them in the late 80's - or even the tour the did with Blur & DJR & JAMC?
― kraudive, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 00:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
aw i was at those ica shows. they hadn't figured out the sound so they just sounded like a mega heavy garage band. so thrashy. i meant the upstate new york atp, fwiw.
― schlump, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 01:29 (4 months ago) Permalink
def read mike mcgonigal's 33 1/3 book if you haven't, btw, for stories about the '80s shows
Saw them a few times 89-91, most memorable was as part of a short tour to support the Glider EP, at Glasgow College of Building & Printing. They weren't super loud, sound was great and an abstract b/w film was shown during "Soon". What made it memorable though was some guy at the front kept on shouting out for "Lovelee Sweet Darlene" loudly between each song, much to bemusement of crowd and band. At the end of the gig they came out for an unexpected encore and proceeded to play "Lovelee Sweet Darlene" super loud and at half speed. haha.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 01:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
I wanna hear that!
― :C (crüt), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 01:44 (4 months ago) Permalink
Haha yeah THAT era's stuff I would love to hear. I noticed ages back up thread someone mentioned they'd been told never to bother listening to the pre-Isnt anything stuff, and I was completely WTF at that and meant to say something. At the very least "Ecstacy and Wine" is brilliant, but I really love the original jangle stuff too. "Sunny Sundae Smile" is irresistable!
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 01:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
I love Strawberry Wine (the song), no matter how in-tune it was with the current music of the day or that which led up to that period.
― kafkaesque (c21m50nh3x460n), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 02:24 (4 months ago) Permalink
LAWL artwork shenanigans:
http://www.last.fm/music/My+Bloody+Valentine/m+b+v
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 02:47 (4 months ago) Permalink
Aw shit its been removed already. Someone had vandalised it to include the blue dude from Arrested Development >_<
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 02:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
http://musicfeeds.com.au/album/my-bloody-valentine-m-b-v/
― ( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 04:06 (4 months ago) Permalink
this was disappointing at first (hard not to be) but i'm slowly coming around to it. "only tomorrow" is massive
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 04:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
OK why are people like that getting published in music review zine/blogs and I'm bloody not. That was so terrible I think it gave me cancer /Calculon.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 04:13 (4 months ago) Permalink
"this band I dont know anything about sound like someting else I clearly have no clue of and hey this is kind of kooky!". vom.
loool ellis
― manti 乒乓 (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 04:15 (4 months ago) Permalink
whoops rong thread
sixties reflux
― djembe v (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 04:43 (4 months ago) Permalink
Haha yeah that "phrase" jumped out at me too.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 05:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, MBV, give it up, you'll never reach the giddy heights of Tame Impala.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 05:07 (4 months ago) Permalink
an atypical acid trip
― a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 05:14 (4 months ago) Permalink
"is this and yes" sounds good 1/2 speed
― groundhog-enorme-toute-grosse-253x300.jpg (clouds), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 05:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
9.1
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 06:01 (4 months ago) Permalink
inches or feet
― ☏ (am0n), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 06:03 (4 months ago) Permalink
posting this with full awareness of how terrible it is to be so wounded by a stray line in a p4k review but:
But since Isn't Anything, drums have been down on the list of concerns for MBV, which is one way the final third is so surprising and ultimately powerful.
this is so off, to me, & is a corollary of the mbv narrative arc way more than it is based on close reading of the records. i have been thinking a bunch about isn't anything since this came out, how propulsive its drums are & how interesting colm is, for reducing the idea of drumroll punctuation to just tense, spasmodic snare drum abuse. that they're a weird aspect of the last couple of records doesn't make them of minimal concern - both live & synthesised they're a really big part of those two records.
― schlump, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 06:19 (4 months ago) Permalink
Has the mis-labelled Loveless remaster discs thing been sorted? How about the glitch in the penultimate track of the analogue (labelled as digital) remaster?
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 06:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
switched to my headphones i usually only use when djing and it did the trick. wish i'd been listening this way for the last few days.
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 06:45 (4 months ago) Permalink
Yeah I'm really fascinated how *different* the whole sound and feel of it is with good audio. Not sure if thats a good or bad thing?
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 07:10 (4 months ago) Permalink
My Loveless discs are correctly labelled - I can clearly hear the glitch on the digital disc, disc 1.
― nate woolls, Wednesday, 6 February 2013 07:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
I'm thinking back to the other night in Brixton. I was drunk but it seemed I couldn't tell what a few of the songs were. I think the band recognised there was serious problems with the sound - but ever since the first reunion gigs I've thought you really can't tell what they're playing very well UNLESS you know the songs, the vocal melodies etc. beforehand. Maybe the gigs will change. The "holocaust" (ugh) was very short at Brixton. Hopefully they'll move on. I'd love if they turned down from 11
I felt a bit like this at The Roundhouse in 2008. It was amazing to see them live again after so much time, but it was just absurdly loud (my ears were fucked for a day or two afterwards) and sometimes it would take me one or two minutes to work out what song I was listening to.
I saw them a couple of times around Nov/Dec 91 and then again on that Rollercoaster thing with Blur/JAMC/Dinosaur Jr in Mar/Apr(?) 92. It's very difficult to compare because there's so much time between, but I remember thinking the gigs were great at the time and I don't recall hearing damage / tune identification being such a problem then.
― A Yawning Chasm (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 07:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
Loudness query: are we saying even with good earplugs (not just crap foam ones) the ears will get fucked over? i already have damaged hearing and tbh I am *really* worried, haha.
― Manti and the Catfish (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 February 2013 07:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
i've been pretty content w/ my audio technica agh m50's for the past ~year or so and despite the slew of electronica i listen to, it's only this album that makes me want to jump for an upgrade. this says nothing of "m b v" apart from fact that it's been a damn while since i've been so excited about hearing nuances and probably speaks for the record, and this band in general, in sense that you find the sounds - the crackle in "only tomorrow", the underlying sighs in "if i am", whatever the hell i could or could not be missing in "wonder 2" - they manufacture as equally interesting as the songs themselves. no other group does that for me.
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