The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

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Can anyone confirm this? Can we believe it?

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:21 (11 years ago) Permalink

(vocalist Debbie Googe is apparently not present

I wouldn't take the word of anyone who can't actually get their facts right - Goodge was BASSIST, not vocalist.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:23 (11 years ago) Permalink

this has already been talked abt in a couple of other threads.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:26 (11 years ago) Permalink

i don't believe it yet. it seems all a bit unsubstantiated

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:30 (11 years ago) Permalink

fuck it anyway! indie is dead so there wouldn't be much point ;)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:50 (11 years ago) Permalink

i'm irritable enough right now to take that extremely personally

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and Free Jazz is alive?

Improvise yer ass outta here, funhater!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:04 (11 years ago) Permalink

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:08 (11 years ago) Permalink

Do they? I wish I was in management. I'd be better paid. Sigh.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:14 (11 years ago) Permalink

ok then. they also do the marriage/kids thing and they forget indie ever existed ;)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:16 (11 years ago) Permalink

I'd like to get married. I'd like to have kids. I can very much imagine HSA trying to get our babies to dance around to Throbbing Gristle the way that my dad used to scare me with Yes.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:17 (11 years ago) Permalink

throbbing gristle is industrial music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:22 (11 years ago) Permalink

I thought it was experimentalist, oh well.

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (11 years ago) Permalink

Just another word for "shit".

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (11 years ago) Permalink

also, remember that when you get married and begin to breed, you're required by law to bring a cellphone into the office and have dramatic conversations everyday with your husband, or loudly admonish your crotchspawnlings, to the obvious delight of your coworkers, every single day for the next 20 years.

or maybe that's something that's just required in the American Midwest...

Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (11 years ago) Permalink

''Just another word for "shit".''

oi!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:26 (11 years ago) Permalink

Julio in "can dish it out but can't take it" SHOCKAH!!!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:29 (11 years ago) Permalink

I wasn't aware that Glider was intended as a full length LP. The idea that there may be another half dozen "Soon"-like ditties in the can is very much welcome. Simon Reynolds' old take on the matter was that he wished they'd have stuck with this direction before the recording of Loveless. I wonder whether any of their mythical drum'n'bass period will ever show up? Wasn't Debbie in a band called Snowplough or something? Colm was involved with Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions - Belinda's activities have been unreported to date.

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:43 (11 years ago) Permalink

''Julio in "can dish it out but can't take it" SHOCKAH!!!''

I deal in facts. you deal in myths.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:47 (11 years ago) Permalink

Going back to the ULU show in 1990, Colm's drumming was fucking breathtaking. And in such heat. The walls were literally melting. I think that Sonic Boom supported in solo guise - the usual indie liggers of the day were propping up the bar (hello Miki!).

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

Snowpony, I think. 'Snowplough' is a million times better, though.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:03 (11 years ago) Permalink

Shields has been christened "Bagpuss" by the Primal Scream clan. Anyone know the origin of this? A friend of mine always said that MBV gave off the appearance of being unwashed and slightly smelly.

Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:06 (11 years ago) Permalink

Julio I gotta say:

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

seems roughly equal to "I will spin it positively for the subculture I like, and negatively for the one I don't" - if indie is "dead," then free jazz has decomposed. I happen to like both so whateveh, but I just wanted to say.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:07 (11 years ago) Permalink

I like both too (well, not everything, its a case by case basis). I was just playing around.

(but actually, indie is not that much of a 'subculture' anymore whereas 60s jazz and free improv (there is a distinction here btw), despite being older, has more of that, but that doesn't matter)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:49 (11 years ago) Permalink

colm still plays with hope sandoval and if i'm not completely mistaken he and she are married and both live in berkeley.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:58 (11 years ago) Permalink

they live near berkeley in kensington.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:15 (11 years ago) Permalink

I thought Hope Sandoval was hanging with William Reid, or is that mouldy old corn?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:28 (11 years ago) Permalink

Damn, this thread is turning into paparazzi press!

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 15:58 (11 years ago) Permalink

Charlie, yer gossip is about ten years out of date!

kate (kate), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:33 (11 years ago) Permalink

saw the Lost in Translation trailer!

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:41 (11 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...
did I just completely miss this???

http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1431220.html

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

Apparently you're not alone. But at least it's there!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

also, finally a new fansite:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

With all the MBV dropping on ILM and the gaze thing and the fact that Kevin did several songs on Lost In Translation I would hope so. I hope so.

cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

Kevin Shields and Ned Raggett are slowly merging into one being:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/images/filter03.jpg

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

Curt1s, Curt1s - be careful what you wish for!

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:39 (10 years ago) Permalink

That joke has been made several times now on many threads! First by me I think. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

He loves cheese.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

A'right then, Ned. You've recorded you 'Ecstasy & Wine' now, obviously. When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

Kevin Shields is my Friendster.

Kevin Shields
Member Since May 2003
Last Login 01/06/2004 

Gender:
Male

Interested in
Meeting People for:
Friends, Activity Partners

Status:
Single

Age:
40

Occupation:
Recording artist & dyslexia spokesman

Location:
United Kingdom

Hometown:
Long Island, NY and Dublin, Ireland

Interests:
Rearranging my recording studio, bankrupting record labels, the hypnagogic state, gourmet meals, martial arts, breeding chinchillas, smoking lots of dope, watching lots of TV, easy projects, writing fresh and simple material, and just keeping it simple!

Favorite Music:
Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach, Beatles, Public Enemy, Sonic Youth, Ramones

Favorite TV Shows:
Just about anything, really.

About Me:
You may have heard of my band, My Bloody Valentine. Many critics have written about us in very flowery terms. I don't think I understood what they were saying in those reviews half the time. That guy from Phish loves me guitar sounds though. Do me a favor and buy my Lost in Translation soundtrack. Island Records isn't helping me out much these days. Also kids, don't forget to buy our box set that's coming out in early '04.

Who I Want to Meet:
Great recording effects designers, more film directors, those with good weed, record labels who understand my fondness for expensive food and all of the time I like to spend in and out of the studio. Just remember... I NO LONGER DO REMIXES!

Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

Sure sounds like him!

When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

I must achieve my breakthrough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

that profile is CLASSIC.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 04:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

Hands up who owns his remix of Hurricane £1? < /old Select jokes>

Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

Shields lives in Long Island now? Where?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

the duties + demands placed on a dyslexia spokesman are immense¡
do you people really think he has time for anything else¿
surely he has found his true calling.

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 16:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

Can someone post the link to 'What Kevin Shields is doing now'?

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 22:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
site says to expect this in late '05 or early '06...

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/news/boxset.html

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

hmmm don't mean to be a cynical carl but i don't believe any of that page for a damn second.

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

last i'd heard the retrospective was a double CD, not a million disc double box set

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

well, until then we'll have this "City Girl" video:

http://metroencoding.net/emperornorton/ref/kevinshields_city-girl_320x180_large-REF.mov

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

Took my earplugs out for about a minute during YMMR and it was absolutely unbearable.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 8 November 2013 19:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

Just a few minutes ago I noticed that I was tagged in this pic

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Friday, 8 November 2013 19:40 (9 months ago) Permalink

I've had tinnitus since I was 21 and for a while it provoked almost panic attack-level anxiety. I had read an interview with Pete Townshend where he said that tinnitus "made him want to kill himself" and I imagined a progressively worsening high-pitched wine that would eventually block out all other sounds and make sleep impossible. Really, it's pretty much fine. It's just like having a TV tuned to nothing on in the background wherever you go. It just sounds like electronics or AC power and really, when are we not surrounded by these things anyway? Alcohol worsens the effects of tinnitus, but also knocks you out before the tinnitus can keep you awake, so it kind of doesn't matter.

I'm not sure I was so bothered by the loudness of MBV. I think my ears have already pretty much ruled out any of the frequencies being played.

fields of salmon, Friday, 8 November 2013 20:08 (9 months ago) Permalink

Really, it's pretty much fine.

YMMV to the extreme when it comes to this disorder, as other threads on ilx will attest.

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Friday, 8 November 2013 20:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

can you get tinnitus from one mbv concert? how often do you need to be exposed to extremely loud noises to get this?

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Friday, 8 November 2013 20:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

is it the "ultimate souvenir"?

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Friday, 8 November 2013 20:25 (9 months ago) Permalink

Tinnitus is not just chronic, it's also the short-term ringing in your ears after loud shows. So yes, you can get it from just 1 show.

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Friday, 8 November 2013 21:17 (9 months ago) Permalink

There are ppl who got it permanently from being near a single gunshot or explosion. Dunno if one concert length exposure could induce a permanent effect or not. It's probably happened.

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 8 November 2013 22:24 (9 months ago) Permalink

as a tinnitus sufferer, I do not recommend adopting the "one time won't hurt" attitude

sleeve, Friday, 8 November 2013 22:33 (9 months ago) Permalink

Seeing Curve on the Cuckoo tour was my scared straight moment w.r.t. wearing earplugs. I may not always wear them, but I do take them with me to shows just in case.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 November 2013 22:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

as a tinnitus sufferer, I do not recommend adopting the "one time won't hurt" attitude

cosign. I saw them in 2008(?) in SF at which time I had earplugs & used them intermittently during the show. Sometime during the year following I developed a ringing in my right ear which never went away. I am in an occupation in which loud noises are frequent, so I know it wasn't just due to this one REALLY LOUD SHOW. But seriously, you will like not having permanent damage to your ears. Use adequate ear protection.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 9 November 2013 17:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ETY-Plugs-Protection-Earplugs/dp/B0044DEESS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384021670&sr=8-2&keywords=earplugs Are these good enough? I've heard the free ones they give out are more protective but I don't know.

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Saturday, 9 November 2013 18:28 (9 months ago) Permalink

those Ety earplugs are what I use and in my opinion they're as good as you can get if you aren't going to have something custom made. they did the job for MBV.

fffv, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:27 (9 months ago) Permalink

Wow,I saw Curve at least three times, but I don't remember them as remotely unbearable. Nowhere near MBV a couple of years ago.

Most ear ringing shows I've seen otherwise were arena metal. NIN in 94, Metallica in ... 98?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

crowded house, woodface era

OutdoorFish, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

Can't tell if that's a joke or not. I do know that volume is volume, and if Crowded House made your ears ring ...

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:36 (9 months ago) Permalink

Posted before I finally saw MBV: loudest band you've ever seen

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:46 (9 months ago) Permalink

4.5 hours!

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:56 (9 months ago) Permalink

I saw Swans in January at ATP Melbourne - they set up 18 amps on stage and 2 full kits, then laid into them with abandon in huge searing waves of attack. Figured I wouldn't need protection, set was loud and I could feel my clothes flapping a bit but it seemed just-barely-OK. After the set my ears were the most wrecked I've ever experienced, everything around me sounded like a broken radio for half an hour. Scared the hell out of me. Hearing seems relatively normal but I am sure the damage will show up in a few years - won't be taking that risk again.

MatthewK, Saturday, 9 November 2013 22:30 (9 months ago) Permalink

I would not recommend seeing MBV without earplugs and I never wear earplugs (I probably should, but that's my lookout) - the only time I've worn them was when I saw MBV on their 1st reunion tour and I took them out during YMMR for a few seconds and it was ludicrous.

Loudest concert I ever went to in terms of ear-damage was JAMC in 1998 in Reading, it was a pretty small venue and I couldn't hear my own voice afterwards. I were a young lad at the time so I guess it didn't do any permanent damage.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:26 (9 months ago) Permalink

wear earplugs, idiots

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:30 (9 months ago) Permalink

^^^

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

if you have any issues of any kind with depression I really, really do not recommend tinnitus because that shit can send you right over the edge

combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:38 (9 months ago) Permalink

when i saw them in nyc in '08 you literally couldn't take the earplugs out, it was amazingly loud.

the other night in boston it was mostly fine, used plugs for maybe 10% of the show.

basically plan on using them, pay attention to your body and ears and how you feel. this isn't that complicated.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ETY-Plugs-Protection-Earplugs/dp/B0044DEESS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384021670&sr=8-2&keywords=earplugs Are these good enough? I've heard the free ones they give out are more protective but I don't know.

These are what I had and they were good - they still changed the sound some, bit far better than regular foam ones.

Like I said above, after I lost one of my ETYs, I replaced it w/ a foam one and that ear definitely showed some damage -- hearing loss and ringing.

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

I don't get it, if earplugs are an essential precaution when seeing MBV then what's the point of playing so loud? All it does is enable idiots to permanently injure themselves. Or is knowing that you're in the midst of such loud volumes, albeit protected, part of the fun?

jmm, Sunday, 10 November 2013 01:15 (9 months ago) Permalink

Simple answer - loud music hits your body as well as your ears

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Sunday, 10 November 2013 01:20 (9 months ago) Permalink

I don't get it, if earplugs are an essential precaution when seeing MBV then what's the point of playing so loud? All it does is enable idiots to permanently injure themselves. Or is knowing that you're in the midst of such loud volumes, albeit protected, part of the fun?

― jmm, Saturday, November 9, 2013 8:15 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imo a lot of their guitar tones are sort of contingent on being loud

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 November 2013 01:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

Most of the show is not, imo, any louder than normal loud shows, but the long, loud bit in the middle of YMMR is meant to overwhelming and to be felt in your body. I loved it and I wished I could it at home.

xps

disgruntled punter (Je55e), Sunday, 10 November 2013 01:23 (9 months ago) Permalink

This opening band omg what is this

Homo schaduwkabinet (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:00 (9 months ago) Permalink

this feels like a State sketch

Homo schaduwkabinet (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:01 (9 months ago) Permalink

is it variety lights?

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:05 (9 months ago) Permalink

I think it's dumb mittens or something

Homo schaduwkabinet (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:07 (9 months ago) Permalink

drowning mittens

Homo schaduwkabinet (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:07 (9 months ago) Permalink

Maybe it was another band idk

Homo schaduwkabinet (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:12 (9 months ago) Permalink

No it was them bcz David Yow had a shirt that said "yow"

Homo schaduwkabinet (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:14 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yikes when they are on it this is one of the best live bands, even now. I have seen them suck though. Suck or best they are fucking loud.

Do earplugs - they crank the volume throughout the show so you can't really notice it. Beautiful but beastly.

kraudive, Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:26 (9 months ago) Permalink

Yeah I would do earplugs. There are bands that try and do an MBV-style "noise assault" and they flip on a few loops and walk off stage and let it ring and wooooh a large part of legitimizing it is the audience realization that yes this is real noise art and not just a bunch of guys that decided to let some noise go on instead of actually playing music and even that can be damaging and if I was in MBV I would make damn sure to try and make the loudest, most punishing noise ever, so yeah please do the earplugs.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 10 November 2013 03:02 (9 months ago) Permalink

Are they playing songs from the new album?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 10 November 2013 03:03 (9 months ago) Permalink

yes

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Sunday, 10 November 2013 03:04 (9 months ago) Permalink

I am pretty sure the "wear earplugs" conversation has been happening on this thread nonstop since like May or June.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 10 November 2013 03:26 (9 months ago) Permalink

"wonder 2" was incredible

tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Sunday, 10 November 2013 07:06 (9 months ago) Permalink

So they play the same set every night?

It's a shame they don't play more from the m b v, Only Tomorrow, Wonder 2 and New You are gorgeous live.

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 10 November 2013 08:10 (9 months ago) Permalink

xxp otm

OutdoorFish, Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:58 (9 months ago) Permalink

This is sometimes referred to as the "holocaust section" or "volcano section", and usually lasted about 15 minutes, although there are reports of shows where it went on for well over half an hour.[2][3][4]

you're welcome

Homo schaduwkabinet (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 11 November 2013 15:01 (9 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

M b v is the pillow I lay my head on when I walk with my eyes closed

calstars, Monday, 17 February 2014 16:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

I was going to buy the vinyl yesterday but it was 46 dollars!!

Treeship, Monday, 17 February 2014 17:05 (6 months ago) Permalink

otm

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 17 February 2014 17:07 (6 months ago) Permalink

4 months pass...

Soon to record a new EP, which means we won't hear anything from it for at least five years or so...

http://www.nme.com/news/my-bloody-valentine/78033

Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 June 2014 21:18 (2 months ago) Permalink

Still, good to know.

Mark G, Friday, 20 June 2014 21:28 (2 months ago) Permalink


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