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Can anyone confirm this? Can we believe it?

― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:21 (7 years ago) Permalink

(vocalist Debbie Googe is apparently not present

I wouldn't take the word of anyone who can't actually get their facts right - Goodge was BASSIST, not vocalist.

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

this has already been talked abt in a couple of other threads.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

i don't believe it yet. it seems all a bit unsubstantiated

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

fuck it anyway! indie is dead so there wouldn't be much point ;)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

i'm irritable enough right now to take that extremely personally

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and Free Jazz is alive?

Improvise yer ass outta here, funhater!

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

Do they? I wish I was in management. I'd be better paid. Sigh.

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

ok then. they also do the marriage/kids thing and they forget indie ever existed ;)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'd like to get married. I'd like to have kids. I can very much imagine HSA trying to get our babies to dance around to Throbbing Gristle the way that my dad used to scare me with Yes.

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:17 (7 years ago) Permalink

throbbing gristle is industrial music.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

I thought it was experimentalist, oh well.

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

Just another word for "shit".

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

also, remember that when you get married and begin to breed, you're required by law to bring a cellphone into the office and have dramatic conversations everyday with your husband, or loudly admonish your crotchspawnlings, to the obvious delight of your coworkers, every single day for the next 20 years.

or maybe that's something that's just required in the American Midwest...

― Kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

''Just another word for "shit".''

oi!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

Julio in "can dish it out but can't take it" SHOCKAH!!!

― kate (kate), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

I wasn't aware that Glider was intended as a full length LP. The idea that there may be another half dozen "Soon"-like ditties in the can is very much welcome. Simon Reynolds' old take on the matter was that he wished they'd have stuck with this direction before the recording of Loveless. I wonder whether any of their mythical drum'n'bass period will ever show up? Wasn't Debbie in a band called Snowplough or something? Colm was involved with Hope Sandoval and The Warm Inventions - Belinda's activities have been unreported to date.

― Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

''Julio in "can dish it out but can't take it" SHOCKAH!!!''

I deal in facts. you deal in myths.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

Going back to the ULU show in 1990, Colm's drumming was fucking breathtaking. And in such heat. The walls were literally melting. I think that Sonic Boom supported in solo guise - the usual indie liggers of the day were propping up the bar (hello Miki!).

― Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 12:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

Snowpony, I think. 'Snowplough' is a million times better, though.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

Shields has been christened "Bagpuss" by the Primal Scream clan. Anyone know the origin of this? A friend of mine always said that MBV gave off the appearance of being unwashed and slightly smelly.

― Robert Moore (treble), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

Julio I gotta say:

free jazz/improv has a small but committed audience. ppl who are into indie go into management.

seems roughly equal to "I will spin it positively for the subculture I like, and negatively for the one I don't" - if indie is "dead," then free jazz has decomposed. I happen to like both so whateveh, but I just wanted to say.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

I like both too (well, not everything, its a case by case basis). I was just playing around.

(but actually, indie is not that much of a 'subculture' anymore whereas 60s jazz and free improv (there is a distinction here btw), despite being older, has more of that, but that doesn't matter)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

colm still plays with hope sandoval and if i'm not completely mistaken he and she are married and both live in berkeley.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 13:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

they live near berkeley in kensington.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

I thought Hope Sandoval was hanging with William Reid, or is that mouldy old corn?

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 14:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

Damn, this thread is turning into paparazzi press!

― JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 15:58 (7 years ago) Permalink

Charlie, yer gossip is about ten years out of date!

― kate (kate), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

saw the Lost in Translation trailer!

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 07:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

did I just completely miss this???

http://www.npr.org/display_pages/features/feature_1431220.html

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 01:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

Apparently you're not alone. But at least it's there!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

also, finally a new fansite:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:05 (6 years ago) Permalink

With all the MBV dropping on ILM and the gaze thing and the fact that Kevin did several songs on Lost In Translation I would hope so. I hope so.

― cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

Kevin Shields and Ned Raggett are slowly merging into one being:

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/images/filter03.jpg

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

Curt1s, Curt1s - be careful what you wish for!

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

That joke has been made several times now on many threads! First by me I think. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:40 (6 years ago) Permalink

He loves cheese.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:41 (6 years ago) Permalink

A'right then, Ned. You've recorded you 'Ecstasy & Wine' now, obviously. When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

Kevin Shields is my Friendster.

Kevin Shields
Member Since May 2003
Last Login 01/06/2004

Gender:
Male

Interested in
Meeting People for:
Friends, Activity Partners

Status:
Single

Age:
40

Occupation:
Recording artist & dyslexia spokesman

Location:
United Kingdom

Hometown:
Long Island, NY and Dublin, Ireland

Interests:
Rearranging my recording studio, bankrupting record labels, the hypnagogic state, gourmet meals, martial arts, breeding chinchillas, smoking lots of dope, watching lots of TV, easy projects, writing fresh and simple material, and just keeping it simple!

Favorite Music:
Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach, Beatles, Public Enemy, Sonic Youth, Ramones

Favorite TV Shows:
Just about anything, really.

About Me:
You may have heard of my band, My Bloody Valentine. Many critics have written about us in very flowery terms. I don't think I understood what they were saying in those reviews half the time. That guy from Phish loves me guitar sounds though. Do me a favor and buy my Lost in Translation soundtrack. Island Records isn't helping me out much these days. Also kids, don't forget to buy our box set that's coming out in early '04.

Who I Want to Meet:
Great recording effects designers, more film directors, those with good weed, record labels who understand my fondness for expensive food and all of the time I like to spend in and out of the studio. Just remember... I NO LONGER DO REMIXES!

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:45 (6 years ago) Permalink

Sure sounds like him!

When is yer 'Isn't anything' due?

I must achieve my breakthrough.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 02:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

that profile is CLASSIC.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 04:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

Hands up who owns his remix of Hurricane £1? < /old Select jokes>

― Enrique (Enrique), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 09:34 (6 years ago) Permalink

Shields lives in Long Island now? Where?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 12:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

the duties + demands placed on a dyslexia spokesman are immense¡
do you people really think he has time for anything else¿
surely he has found his true calling.

― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

Can someone post the link to 'What Kevin Shields is doing now'?

― Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 22:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

site says to expect this in late '05 or early '06...

http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/news/boxset.html

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

hmmm don't mean to be a cynical carl but i don't believe any of that page for a damn second.

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

last i'd heard the retrospective was a double CD, not a million disc double box set

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

well, until then we'll have this "City Girl" video:

http://metroencoding.net/emperornorton/ref/kevinshields_city-girl_320x180_large-REF.mov

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 22 January 2004 04:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

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Why was everything except live clips taken off youtube? (and YMMR is still there which was titled "Realise" by whoever posted it)

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 13:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

y'know, the "holocaust" thing in Denver was awesome and intense, but the most transcendent moment for me was the long outro of "Soon" -- like the VU trancing out on "What Goes On", pure locked in sound. was expecting that my ears'd still be ringing for days afterwards, but I actually didn't notice it too much. maybe this is a bad sign for the state of my hearing.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

my buddy taped the show on his cheap walkman recorder. we played some of the holocaust section on the drive home -- sounded like static on the radio. or something we could sell to Aquarius Records on limited edition cassette as the latest awesome underground noize band.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

was expecting that my ears'd still be ringing for days afterwards, but I actually didn't notice it too much. maybe this is a bad sign for the state of my hearing.

You know... my ears were ringing for about a week after ATP New York, but hardly at all after Austin the other night. Not sure why, I used earplugs about half the show at each one...

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

used earplugs for the whole show, but just the ones they provided at the door.

― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 April 2009 16:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

but the most transcendent moment for me was the long outro of "Soon" -- like the VU trancing out on "What Goes On", pure locked in sound

yeah - the build up of constituent parts of that song and then them all just caving in and combining at the end, vocals and the sample and guitars. it is too much!

― corps of discovery (schlump), Tuesday, 28 April 2009 16:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Kevin Shields is my Friendster.
Kevin Shields
Member Since May 2003
Last Login 01/06/2004
Gender:
Male
Interested in
Meeting People for:
Friends, Activity Partners
Status:
Single
Age:
40
Occupation:
Recording artist & dyslexia spokesman
Location:
United Kingdom
Hometown:
Long Island, NY and Dublin, Ireland
Interests:
Rearranging my recording studio, bankrupting record labels, the hypnagogic state, gourmet meals, martial arts, breeding chinchillas, smoking lots of dope, watching lots of TV, easy projects, writing fresh and simple material, and just keeping it simple!
Favorite Music:
Beach Boys, Burt Bacharach, Beatles, Public Enemy, Sonic Youth, Ramones
Favorite TV Shows:
Just about anything, really.
About Me:
You may have heard of my band, My Bloody Valentine. Many critics have written about us in very flowery terms. I don't think I understood what they were saying in those reviews half the time. That guy from Phish loves me guitar sounds though. Do me a favor and buy my Lost in Translation soundtrack. Island Records isn't helping me out much these days. Also kids, don't forget to buy our box set that's coming out in early '04.
Who I Want to Meet:
Great recording effects designers, more film directors, those with good weed, record labels who understand my fondness for expensive food and all of the time I like to spend in and out of the studio. Just remember... I NO LONGER DO REMIXES!
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, January 6, 2004 8:45 PM (5 years ago)

Classic beyond belief.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 May 2009 03:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's so "it could actually be real"...

(I saw Nick's got a novel out!)

― Mark G, Wednesday, 13 May 2009 06:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

release date: 17-8-2009

― Mark G, Monday, 13 July 2009 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Come on now, there is no 17th month. This is obviously made up.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 13 July 2009 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

― thank you, flipper, for nickelback (country matters), Monday, 13 July 2009 14:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

I know dude, I was just kidding (and implying the release date won't hold water, regardless).

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 13 July 2009 14:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

So I'm never gonna see them. That's just great.

― billstevejim, Saturday, 1 August 2009 06:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

What, did they officially go back on hiatus?

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 August 2009 14:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

no but their last US show for a while is today at all points west which i cannot attend.

― billstevejim, Saturday, 1 August 2009 15:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

dont worry i'm sure there will be more US dates at some point. next stop for them is our fest, Kevin hinted
in an interview a while back they may debut some new material and possibly a different lineup. which would be exciting. pretty much sold out and not in the US though:
http://www.atpfestival.com/Events/Nightmare2009.php

― Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 2 August 2009 13:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

different lineup is not exciting, that sucks!

― akm, Sunday, 2 August 2009 14:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

expanded lineup i should say! he mentioned adding new people to the current lineup to expand the sound

― Jamie_ATP, Sunday, 2 August 2009 14:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Turntablists, a gospel choir and someone on didgeridoo.

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 August 2009 14:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

As long as it's not Bobby Gillespie to "return the favour" it'll be ok. Maybe a return of flautist from Loveless tour?

― Bill A, Sunday, 2 August 2009 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

interpretive noise dancers

― the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Sunday, 2 August 2009 14:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 2 August 2009 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

a ragga MC?

that would be make slightly less meh about the atp line up.

― my opinionation (Hamildan), Sunday, 2 August 2009 15:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

flautist?...what the...flautist?!...I seen 'em twice on the Loveless tour, and I ain't seen no flautist!

― henry s, Sunday, 2 August 2009 17:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

henry, you made me wonder if I had a false memory event, but no:

Anna Quimby: MBV's flautist

when I saw them at Birmingham Institute for the Loveless tour she dealt with the high <ahem> flutey sample sounds that are all over the album. Did you see them in the UK or elsewhere, maybe she didn't tour overseas?

― Bill A, Sunday, 2 August 2009 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

high-fallutin' samples

― the heart is a lonely hamster (schlump), Sunday, 2 August 2009 19:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

A litany of humorous comments from Tool fans regarding MBV's live performance (apparently, they had to sit through MBV to see Tool immediately afterward at All Points West NY this weekend):

Fuser0118 (1 day ago)
these people sucked!!
brohan914 (23 hours ago)
I was there, and I didn't really get these guys
PiePie1992 (22 hours ago)
This band sucked ass.
HoboCabbage (17 hours ago)
i guess im not artsy enough to enjoy this, i thought it sounded like a wall of suck
dancingshoesx505 (17 hours ago)
This band was awful! They just made a shitload of crap noise and you couldn't even hear them sing. On top of that they looked like zombies!!!
nobody wanted to see their shitty performance!
PiePie1992 (28 minutes ago)
I also liked Gogol Bordello and The Arctic Monkeys. Leading into it I thought I would enjoy MBV. Guess not.
But you're right, I'm a Tool fan, I'm just a closed minded dickhead.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 3 August 2009 17:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Those are from YouTube, btw.

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 3 August 2009 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

shocker

― Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Monday, 3 August 2009 17:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Few forms are discourse are lower than the YouTube comment.

― kshighway, Monday, 3 August 2009 17:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like Lateralus, but Tool's entire discography doesn't even come close to what MBV accomplished with Loveless.

― kshighway, Monday, 3 August 2009 17:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

One half-decent MBV picture from All Points West on P4K: http://pitchfork.com/news/36093-report-all-points-west-liberty-state-park-nj-073109-080209/

― kshighway, Monday, 3 August 2009 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

One friend told me a decent amount of Tool fans had their middle fingers in the air from the 2-3 minute point of the "noise wall" onward.

― billstevejim, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

How surprising!

― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wonder if their arms got tired.

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

funny, i only know one heavy Tool fan, and he loves MBV.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tool's drummer should have soloed over the noise bit.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is it the poster immediately before you? xp

― the hubby space veggiescope (country matters), Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

funny, i only know one heavy Tool fan, and he loves MBV

Yeah I'm a little surprised at there being such a huge audience split -- a little, not completely. Sure seems like a lot of newer metal bands love both equally. (Cue Chuck E. posting about why said love is the problem with modern metal...)

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

hee hee, Tool just played a big festival out here, and I think they went on after .... Widespread Panic. Wonder if there were any middle fingers during that set.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink

Tool fans are an insular, tribal sort. I bet it had less to do with MBV and more to do with the fact that it was not Tool.

Anyone know how Tool fans reacted to King Crimson, Isis, Meshuggah and other past opening acts?

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

maybe not though ... might be a different thing if it's a festival setting or if it's a band that the mighty Tool have deigned worthy to open for them.

― tylerw, Wednesday, 5 August 2009 14:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

btw, MBV were pretty excellent last night at the Way Out West festival in Göteborg, Sweden.

― ConnieXX, Sunday, 16 August 2009 10:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw tool once b/c a friend had an extra ticket she couldn't get rid of. Tomahawk opened for them. There was a lot of heckling and middle fingers, but I'm not sure how much of that was because Mike Patton wouldn't stop insulting the audience and hoe much was because tool fans are dicks.
ps-tool were boring. The only show I've ever fallen asleep at.

― Fetchboy, Sunday, 16 August 2009 12:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

So, as the "wall" is part of the last song, were the tool fans fingerhappy during the rest of the set?

― Mark G, Monday, 17 August 2009 10:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Apologies if this has already been posted somewhere (it would take forever to check all the MBV posts on all the threads):

http://onethirtybpm.com/2009/07/16/mp3s-three-unreleased-my-bloody-valentine-songs/

― Teh Movable Object (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 15:58 (10 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

tweets outta atp: MBV are playing Sometimes. Oh my goodness something aaargh

― rap band (schlump), Friday, 4 December 2009 23:56 (8 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Things yelled at Kevin during ATP set, and Kevin's reply:

"Play new stuff!"
(away from the mic but still remotely audioble) "no"

"Honey Power"
"ok"

"Loomer"
"cant remember the tuning"

― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 4 January 2010 01:24 (7 months ago) Permalink

ha ha i think that may have been my companion shouting for loomer

― Karen Tregaskin, Monday, 4 January 2010 11:27 (7 months ago) Permalink

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