Grateful Dead live, Dick's Picks etc - S&D

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With the odd notable exception like 'American Beauty', 'Anthem of the Sun' and a few other studio albums, the Grateful Dead have always been about live performance. It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense. And their live albums contain some extraordinary music (as well as some dodgier moments).

But there's just so much of it out there. By my reckoning they released eight regular live albums during the life of the band, but since then the floodgates have opened. There are now 29 Dick's Picks releases, most of them triple CDs, and about a dozen other albums like One/Two From The Vaults, Ladies & Gentlemen, Hundred Year Hall, The Phil Zone etc.

So, what have you heard and what do you like? Are there particular periods (the 80s?) that are no-go areas? Is it only worth bothering with stuff from 68-71?

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:00 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

You've obviously got to start with 'Live Dead'. I listened to it again over the weekend, and it still sounds extraordinary. There may be better versions of 'Dark Star' out there, but as the first one I heard it'll always be the definitive one for me.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

yes can we have some ans here. I need to know what to look out for!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:11 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've been piling through a lot of my Dead live Cds/box sets over the last couple of weeks, but I still feel like I'm only scratching the surface. I've got several thoughts about it, but for the moment I'll just say:
1) I've not heard a version of 'Dark Star' that isn't awesome.
2) The quality of the version of a song bears no relation to how good the jamming is going to be after it (i.e. ignore the ropey vocals, there's some good stuff coming along in a minute).
3) Brent Mydland. Oh dear.
4) Donna Godchaux. Oh dear, oh dear.
5) They were something fucking special around 68-71. I feel like trying to pick up every single thing that's been released from this period.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:14 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 16:23 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

search: the dead from 1973-74. totally at the top of their game during this period.

chaki (chaki), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:20 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Reckoning -- The traditional "Live" album for LP release. Quiet, crisp performances. No flubs, all first rate versions, and a pleasure to listen to throughout. 9.6

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it? 9.4

Nightfall of Diamonds -- Winterland, 10/10/89 -- Great sound; a bit noodley in places, but right nice. 8.6

Dick's Picks #8 -- Harpur College, 5/02/70 -- Three-Quarters of this is impeccable; good form, nice song selection - one disc acoustic, one disc electric, and one disc rave-ups (i don't much care for their R&B covers like "Dancing in the Streets" and "It's A Man's Man's Man's World"). 8.5

Ladies & Gentleman... The Grateful Dead -- Filmore East, April 1971 -- A good listen, but it delves a bit too much into the Helter Skelter for strict listening. Works better as background -- but is noteworthy for the block of Pigpen's blues numbers. 7.8

christoff (christoff), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 17:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Harpur College

my alma mater! (aka "the liberal arts college of SUNY Binghamton")

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:04 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've heard a good bit of Dead over the years, and own a fair amount of albums. I second Dick's Pick's Four... the best album I've heard from them. Live/Dead is of course essential, and I think Europe '72 is as well. It was the first Dead record I bought. It's from a bunch of shows from their Europe '72 tour which is among their very best tours (many would say there best. It's there last tour with Pigpen and their first with Keith). It contains little jamming (disk two has some) and was mainly released because the songs on there had yet to be put to vinyl. It was also a bit touched up in the studio, I believe. I know they recently released another cd from that tour, as well as an expanded Europe '72, though I don't think I've heard either, I believe they're quite good as well.


One From the Vault is strong, too. It's from '75, and was from one of two shows celebrating the release of Blues for Allah. It contains every song from that album (in a better version)--including the title track which is, unfortunately, a total dud, IMO (though I'm hardly alone). The Dead didn't tour in '75 or '76, but this is a strong performance though not essential.


I agree on 68-71 being strong. But so is the Europe '72 tour - 74.Dick's Pick's 12 features the quite famous "Mind Left Body" jam as well as the glorious return of "China Cat Sunflower" to their catalogue.


Pretty much all of '77 is great. 5-8-77 Cornell is their most frequently bootlegged show, and thus essential, though not their best performance. It shouldn't be hard to find. '78 is good too, and then they hit a lull.


I believe it's '83 that I've heard good things about, but I've never taken the time to investigate. '78 was the last time they released a studio album until '87, so I kind of avoid it. In '87 bounced back from a heroin-induced coma, and the band was strong again so I'd seek out some stuff from this era too.


Hope this helped a little. I also have to highly recommend the Jerry Garcia Band (which is mostly just a cover band) release Don't Let Go from '75 with Keith on acoustic piano. It's a very tight, mellow session. With only one guitar in there, you can really hear how good of a guitarist Jerry was when he was on.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The other thing about '77 is that it's when they became really, really funky. That's why it's so popular. And as usual, when they were on--which was often that year--they were really on. Many would say it's their best year, and I agree it's definitely one of them.

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:48 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

''Julio, from the other GD threads you say you really like 'Live Dead'. From that era I'd definitely recommend Dick's Picks 4 (recorded at the Fillmore East in Feb 1970) and Two From The Vaults (from 1968).''

will do

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 July 2003 18:52 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

apologies for the faulty spacing there...

Aaron M., Tuesday, 1 July 2003 19:09 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Dick's Picks #4 -- Fillmore East, February 13-14, 1970 -- Better than Live Dead, but do have a chance of finding it?

You can still get any of the Dick's Picks from the Dead's own site (gdstore.com). DP4 is $21 plus postage.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 15:13 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

No shit? I've been looking for a "gift" copy for years -- Thanks, JB.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:16 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The new Dick's Picks 39 is a six-disc set of two 1977 shows.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:45 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

Whoops, that's 29.

Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 2 July 2003 17:46 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

The thing with a lot of live Dead stuff is that even the better gigs have a lot of average stuff on them, but they're worth hearing for the moments where the inspiration hits and they really take off.

So I don't know why they don't release more albums that take stuff from a variety of performances (and eras), cherry-picking the really juicy tracks. 'The Phil Zone' is a good example of this - it's got a great range of stuff, even some not-bad performances from the late 80s. And it's got an absolutely monster version of 'Hard to Handle', which not only rocks like a bastard, it's from an audience tape so you can hear everybody going mental as they crank it up.

(I also wish you could hear more audience on a lot of the Dick's Picks. They capture the music well, but not always the whole occasion. OK, I know they're mostly taken from the mixing desk so maybe that's not possible.)

Aaron or chaki - could you recommend any good Dick's Picks from 73-4 or 77?

James Ball (James Ball), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:39 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I've been meaning to contribute to this thread, but I wanted to wait for a free moment to audition a bunch of my stuff again. One good thing this thread has done is get me to finally listen to the package of Dick's Picks I got a couple months ago but hadn't listened to yet (well, I threw them when I got them but wasn't able to listen as closely as I'd like): 22 and 26. So far, 26 sounds great! A bunch of rare live Aoxomoxoa songs!!

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 4 July 2003 15:56 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

#4 and #8 are my favorites (though i kinda stopped paying attention after 16 or so - not for lack of interest but lack of cash)

search GRAYFOLDED - Oswald's "plundering" of over 100 versions of Dark Star from 69-95. Essential drone

Anthem of the Sun and Live/Dead are pretty much perfect legit albums btw

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 July 2003 06:05 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

I was thinking of getting 26, Mr D. The track listing looks very promising, but I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts.

And I've just looked at the tracks for 22, that also looks tempting. I listened to Two From The Vaults over the weekend, from the same year (and with a similar set). There's something about the sound of the band/Garcia's guitar from that time (68/69). I can only describe it as having a lot more bite.

Completely agree with you roger about Live/Dead - that's the benchmark for me, both the version of Dark Star and the album as a whole.

I was surprised the first time I heard Grayfolded how 'ordinary' a lot of it sounded i.e. not ordinary as such but just like a great extended version of Dark Star, the first CD at least. The vocal 'swooshes' and 'folds' sound good though.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 7 July 2003 13:54 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

bump

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 10 July 2003 19:43 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

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James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 11:51 (thirteen years ago) Permalink

ten months pass...
Revive, please.

Just listening to vol 12's lovely version of China Cat Sunflower, as mentioned above by Aaron M.

Any new opinions?

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I really like #16. I feel like the only Dead I ever buy is stuff from 68-70. I just saw #4 at a store and it looks great, after reading this I've decided I need it. Hundred Year Hall is a great set and I enjoy a lot more than the Europe 72 album, which I think sounds kind of neutered. There is a lot of inspired jamming and an absolutely beautiful Pigpen vocal on "Two Souls in Communion." I haven't listened to it in years, though, since my copy was stolen. I have a hard time buying Grateful Dead discs sometimes, although I have no problem listening to them.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 13:56 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Closing of Winterland looks promising.

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 15:25 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
the dvd? it's fucking awesome! Possibly my favorite music DVD ever!

i'm too tired to elaborate, but if you consider that Neil Young has Candian citizenship, and if you exclude the American contingent of Fleetwood Mac at their absolute peak, The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time.

Trux and the Drive By Truckers are tied for me personally, but we're looking through history's lens here, people. The Dead. the fucking DEAD!!!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:16 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I spent last weekend listening to Ladies and Gentlemen... the Grateful Dead, that 4cd set that Arista put out a couple years back. Fucking PRIME '71 era shit. Absolutely G=god-like. Rog, you gotta get that one if ya don't have it...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Also, I really want to see this..

http://usa.festivalexpress.com/

I do have to admit, I didn't get that excited about Closing of Winterland though. THen again, I watched it at like 3 in the morning a couple months ago when I was pretty wiped out. I'll give it another go.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:28 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I'm a ridiculous Godchaux apologist, FWIW.

haven't tracked down that Arista set - 71, eh? I'm more a 72-77 kinda guy, but will check it out - thanks!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:35 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Wow, a 72-77 guy! I'm impressed. I'm still trying to get with the Godchaux era. I think it will come to me in due time. Do you have that One From the Vault? That one's pretty good, as I recall.

Yeah, the Ladies and Gentlemen thing is '71 but it's pretty song-oriented. Sort of midway between the psychedelic blow-outs and the Europe '72 stuff. It's a nice, pleasant listen. GREAT version of "Bird Song".

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Saturday, 24 July 2004 06:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

im a 73 guy and yah the new dvd is great!!

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Sunday, 25 July 2004 06:23 (twelve years ago) Permalink

ok, fuck it, Chaki I trust you.. I will watch it again!! It just kind of seemed goofy to me. With the whole dude riding in on a joint at the beginning of the concert. Like, you almost want to shake Bill Graham and the Dead and say, "the 60's are OVER!! Didn't you guys watch 'gimme shelter'??" Plus, the Godchaux. And "Fire on the Mountain" goes on entirely too long. I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Dead, don't get me wrong, but that 'FOTM' just goes on too long, sorry. But I will check it out again, as I said...

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Hmm.. I just started watching it again, midway through the set. You know what? This version of "Friend of the Devil" is really kind of beautiful! Even Donna is kind of endearing right here! Mea culpa.

Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Sunday, 25 July 2004 07:45 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"Even Donna" - wtf?

Donna was probably just as proficient a musician as Phil Lesh (making her twice as proficient as Bob Weir) and an all around great, great vocalist. Her live performances were hit and miss due to lack of proper monitor support, everyone knows that.

She never gets a fair shake. It's not like she was Linda McCartney fer chrissakes.

The Godchauxes broght so much life (not to mention a a very vital jazz-informed musical eloquence) to The Dead. I love Pigpen and Mydland as much as the nxt guy, but the 70s are where it's AT because of Keith and Donna!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 25 July 2004 17:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
Disk one of Vol. 23 rules. I have to admit, though, that the "China Cat Sunflower" / "I Know You Rider" medley gets sooo tiresome after listening to Dick's Picks.

Rocking the Rhein is good stuff as well.

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:48 (twelve years ago) Permalink

the "Dark Star" on Rockin' the Rhein is eyeball-melting

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 18:54 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I bought Dick's Picks 22 on a fleeting whim a few days ago.
I'm a little regretful of it now.
Feb '68 show at a Lake Tahoe bowling alley. Vocals are rarely audible (which I guess isn't always a bad thing, har har).
Now I'm wanting Rockin the Rhein.
I think I need a break from the Dead.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

I just listened to Reckoning this past Friday night. Always a treat to pull that one out.

Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 19:27 (twelve years ago) Permalink

'Two From the Vault' is v.good...it's mastered or mixed really well for headphones. And at the end of 'Morning Dew' the house pulls the electricity from them, great moment.

57 7th (calstars), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 20:26 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"It's when you see/hear them live that it all makes sense."

Au contraire. Au contraire.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 21:42 (twelve years ago) Permalink

"The Dead are the greatest American rock and roll band of all time."

i take umbrage with this comment.
and so would CCR.

me rawk.
you snow.

eedd, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:18 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Regarding my last post, in case it's not clear, I mean to say that they SUCK LIVE. I don't get it.

Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink


Blues for Allah is the best thing they ever did, according to me

Help/Slip/Frank rules

Jackson, Wednesday, 29 September 2004 23:22 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Donna's "soulful" scream at the end of "Scarlet Begonias" on Dick's Picks 7 is the most out-of-key singing I've heard on an officially released record.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 30 September 2004 03:11 (twelve years ago) Permalink

apparently there's a letter to the editor in the new Arthur from me regarding The Dead, but i haven't seen it. i can't get it here

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 30 September 2004 04:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
HELP - I'm visiting a well-stocked Deadhead (over 300 shows) who has kindly offered to let me borrow whatever I want from his stash - any suggestions as to what I shld look out for - keep in mind that I generally prefer Dead Stuff w/ LOTS of guitar solos, the freakier the better, and am less concerned abt 'songs' per se

Thank You

Uncle John, Saturday, 27 November 2004 21:20 (twelve years ago) Permalink

one month passes...
I just got this Jerry Garcia Band 3-CD Kean College set from 1980 that Rhino put out last fall. S'good! I'm just a dabbler in the Dead, but this is close to perfect -- nice sparse 4-piece, warmly recorded, the grooves don't overwhelm the songs and vice-versa -- I mean, the grooves are songlike, and the songs are groovelike. And maybe because he doesn't have to work to make himself heard, Jerry's playing is even more loose and gentle than usual. The solos are like barstool conversations. I think I'm going to be listening to this a lot.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 9 January 2005 08:49 (twelve years ago) Permalink

yah that shit kicks ass

chaki in charge (chaki), Sunday, 9 January 2005 09:05 (twelve years ago) Permalink

two months pass...
May check out that Jerry band thing. Has anyone heard the No. 29 6CD thing from '77? Curious about that as well.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:07 (twelve years ago) Permalink

One more chance at an answer re No. 29. I orderd the Jerry Band thing yesterday.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:01 (twelve years ago) Permalink

Dammit Garcia is already a past master ov all styles

dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 04:24 (five months ago) Permalink

And he hasn't even gotten weird yet

dow, Friday, 2 December 2016 04:25 (five months ago) Permalink

i feel like playing in the band from veneta would be a good intro

Damn, I'd forgotten how good that is - thanks for the reminder

Brakhage, Friday, 2 December 2016 11:16 (five months ago) Permalink

(The fact that said piece is from a UC Santa Cruz site reminds me that a visit to the library is fun if you get the chance -- like all such archives, the actual GD collection is functionally packed away in the building for research use, but they rotate the main exhibition area.)

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, December 1, 2016 12:11 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm fairly certain that my oldest existing online contribution is on David Dodd's The Annotated Grateful Dead page (and it looks like it still exists!)

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 2 December 2016 15:36 (five months ago) Permalink

haha, that's great. Jesse Jarnow's HEADS from earlier this year is a great read for many reasons, but one of them is that you learn how the internet was essentially created to talk about Dead setlists.

tylerw, Friday, 2 December 2016 15:38 (five months ago) Permalink

Maybe the internet would be a more chill place if Hunter had founded the EFF instead of John Perry Barlow.

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 2 December 2016 15:44 (five months ago) Permalink

one month passes...

If you can't see this, it's San Francisco 1976--the Orpheum Theatre Broadcast On Three CDs. Think I've heard some of it--- is the whole thing worth getting?

dow, Thursday, 5 January 2017 01:55 (four months ago) Permalink

don't know that set, but 76 is a super interesting year - they toured more than they had in 75 (hardly any), but not as much as they would the following year. The syracuse show from 76 is really something else. that's about two months after these. if they're doing cold rain & snow and cassidy and tennessee jed, probably a good find

though she denies it to the press, (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 5 January 2017 03:21 (four months ago) Permalink

I have this set - good show, tho Dick's Picks 33 remains my go to 76 set.

It's taken from a radio broadcast, and fidelity is about on a par w/ a mediocre sounding Dick's Pick. I've seen a number of these GD radio shows for sale in UK rec shops - this one looks like a choice set, too (Dark Star>Drums>Other One!):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Harding-Theater-1971-Grateful-Dead/dp/B01A9U6F90

Darcy Sarto (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 5 January 2017 09:23 (four months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Adding a concert for the 50th Anniversary Edition of the studo s/t debut, as I think somebody mentioned upthread---the Big Pitch is here, video and all:
http://view.em-dead.net/?qs=9b141882d7989403564a1fb1f79ab664ac66378e68a1f4292da7839536e6673e411ba739bf88020a16dffd9647cc8c7a5784d2d47f2f75e0accc4bded2105b0b

dow, Saturday, 21 January 2017 01:48 (four months ago) Permalink

They totally cut the bonus tracks from the single disc reissue, it looks like? Weird. Those were cool bonus tracks.

szyslakial moescreancy (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 09:39 (four months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

The Cornell set got added to Dave's Picks. This, with mucho Pigpen, is up next

Feelin' fine with the Felt Forum! Dave's Picks Volume 22 presents the last stop on a collector's choice run in the Grateful Dead's home-away-from-home, New York City. 12/7/71 yields a highly pleasurable Pigpen-filled show and what was surely a top-notch Tuesday for all who attended. Talk about vibe-ing with the crowd! At their prime in terms of lineup and performance, the Dead churned out a batch of songs that would soon become well-worn Europe '72 favorites ("Jack Straw," "Brown Eyed Women") and also served up solid versions of freshly-minted classics ("Sugar Mag," "Friend," "Casey Jones"). That winning combination of Pigpen AND Keith? Nothing but peak "signature showstoppers" including what could potentially be the finest "Smokestack Lightning" of all time. The complete show runs a wee bit short (for a Grateful Dead show, that is) so we've rounded out the release with much of the second set from the previous night, December 6, 1971. With exceptional takes on the likes of "Wharf Rat" and "Uncle John's Band" and a massive "The Other One," we're pretty sure you won't mind.
Limited to 16,500 individually numbered copies, Dave's Picks Volume 22: Felt Forum, New York, NY - 12/7/71 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and features illustrations by our 2017 Artist in Residence Dave Van Patten (stay tuned to learn more about the illustrator in an upcoming All In The Family piece).
Audio, more info: http://www.dead.net/store/special-edition-shops/almanac/daves-picks-volume-22?cmpid=dn/2017April14/AnnouncingDaves-main-image-1&eml=2017April14/3950520/6131962&etsubid=33554028

dow, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:06 (one month ago) Permalink

That winning combination of Pigpen AND Keith? Hadn't realized they played any of the same shows.

dow, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:11 (one month ago) Permalink

think keith joined in fall 71, and pigpen was around til summer of 72. this is a good show!

tylerw, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:13 (one month ago) Permalink

finally picked up hundred year hall after first hearing it 20 years ago, what a great set

marcos, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:22 (one month ago) Permalink

Yeah I think that and Bickershaw are my fave Europe 72 shows ...

tylerw, Friday, 14 April 2017 18:32 (one month ago) Permalink

The Pigpen / Keith overlap is definitely worth hearing

The Cornell set got added to Dave's Picks? Is there any confirmation on that? Because there's also this, out May 5th

Wimmels, Friday, 14 April 2017 21:39 (one month ago) Permalink

the Cornell thing isn't a Dave's, just a regular old live release.

tylerw, Friday, 14 April 2017 22:15 (one month ago) Permalink

That's what I thought!

I just bought this: www.amazon.com/Cornell-77-Magnificence-Grateful-Concert/dp/150170432X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492213558&sr=8-1&keywords=cornell+77

Wimmels, Friday, 14 April 2017 23:46 (one month ago) Permalink

I recently realized that my favorite Dead jams are from versions of Dark Star in which Keith is playing Fender Rhodes. To find every single one of these I listened to every Dark Star from the relevant time frame--basically 73-74 (turns out the group acquired the Rhodes in May of 73). The fruits of my OCD are below w/brief notes.

6/10/73
6/24/73 (can't hear Keith til almost 12 mins)
6/30/73
8/1/73 (my favorite version ever. pure kaleidoscopic sunshine from start to finish, plus searing slide from Jerry)
9/11/73 (probably my second fav. moodier. they almost sound like can on this one)
10/19/73 (Dick's Picks 19)
10/25/73 (Rhodes briefly in beginning, restarts 10 mins into post-Mind Left Body jam)
10/30/73 (post MLB Jam, also gets synthy)
11/11/73 (back and forth btwn Rhodes and piano throughout. epic and famous version)
12/6/73 (INCREDIBLE. arguably the spaciest ever. kreutzmann bends the fabric of time)

5/14/74 (Dave's Picks 9)
6/23/74 (no vocals, excerpt on So Many Roads box set)
7/25/74
9/10/74 (DP 7)
10/18/74 (Grateful Dead Movie Soundtrack. Ned Lagin joins on second(!) Rhodes)

It should go without saying that every one of these is excellent, especially if you dig fusion Dead. And I find exploring adjacent Other Ones, Playin in the Bands, and Bird Songs to be just as rewarding.

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 April 2017 01:57 (one month ago) Permalink

9/10/74 from Dick's Picks 7, that is.

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 April 2017 01:59 (one month ago) Permalink

very cool! I always had a hard time connecting with dark stars beyond the classic 68-69 versions - e.g. live dead, two from the vault, august 68, which are some of my favorite dead music ever - so I will check those out. sometimes the later versions just seem so nebulous that I have hard time knowing what to look for. nice to have an "in" and who doesn't love fender rhodes??

marcos, Saturday, 15 April 2017 02:10 (one month ago) Permalink

Reminds me---yeah, Greyfolded is still here---might or might not turn out to be a bit of a buzzkill; I've never listened to the whole thing---but here 'tis for whoever wants it:

dow, Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:08 (one month ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, Greyfolded is one of my favorite things in the world. After my recent 73/74 "Dark Star" odyssey I revisited Greyfolded and, studying the chart in the liner notes, sadly realized my beloved 8/1/73 version wasn't used. Can't recommend it highly enough for maximum uplift.

J. Sam, Saturday, 15 April 2017 19:46 (one month ago) Permalink

Spoiler Alert...Dr. Rhino unboxes the individually-numbered, limited-edition May 1977: Get Shown The Light Boxed Set. (there's also a non-ltd. ed, duh)

HAT'S INSIDE (the non-limited All Music Edition):
Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
Four folios housed in a slipcase
5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
Release Date: May 5, 2017

More info, audio:
http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-get-shown-light-all-music-edition?cmpid=dn/2017April19/CornellCiceron_1977BoxedSet-LearnMore-main-more-2&eml=2017April19/3955503/6131962&etsubid=33554028

dow, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:55 (one month ago) Permalink

Well dang--- oh well, the box-strip video's on that linked page too.

dow, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 23:58 (one month ago) Permalink

Those four shows are peak Dead, obviously. Been successfully avoiding being gouged by the Dead this year (Dave's Picks subscription was my one allowance, and that was a xmas gift to myself) but this one is really tempting. Bastards

Wimmels, Thursday, 20 April 2017 01:20 (one month ago) Permalink

Other shows on their previous May '77 box http://www.dead.net/store/1970s/may-1977-box-digital

dow, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:41 (one month ago) Permalink

haha, that set does look pretty tempting, but i don't think i can justify the cost ...

tylerw, Thursday, 20 April 2017 16:43 (one month ago) Permalink

Thanks J Sam for the Rhodes DS list upthread, I'm really enjoying those shows

Brakhage, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:02 (one month ago) Permalink

there's a nice rhodes-y Bird Song from '73 here: https://soundcloud.com/hunters-trix/bird-song-6-22-73-p-n-e

tylerw, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:09 (one month ago) Permalink


Thanks J Sam for the Rhodes DS list upthread, I'm really enjoying those shows

― Brakhage, Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:02 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're very welcome! I'm happy to help.


there's a nice rhodes-y Bird Song from '73 here: https://soundcloud.com/hunters-trix/bird-song-6-22-73-p-n-e

― tylerw, Thursday, April 20, 2017 1:09 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh HELL yeah, I love that version. That whole show is fantastic, especially the He's Gone-> Truckin'-> Nobody's Fault But Mine-> The Other One-> Wharf Rat-> Sugar Magnolia in the second set.

J. Sam, Thursday, 20 April 2017 19:41 (one month ago) Permalink

going to see the GD movie screening tonight, heard mixed things, but eh, never seen it, why not

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:00 (one month ago) Permalink

I haven't seen that in close to 25 years now but I still use the line "I'm just trying to get my space together before I go to the show" (as uttered by some super fried person in that film) from time to time when I'm trying to, you know, get my space together.

joygoat, Thursday, 20 April 2017 20:27 (one month ago) Permalink

saw the movie when I was like 13 y.o. at the red vic in s.f. circa 1980 and got super emo about the beautifulness of it all

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 20 April 2017 21:51 (one month ago) Permalink

lol been there xp

excited

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:01 (one month ago) Permalink

really gettin anxious for my cornell box btw

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:07 (one month ago) Permalink

the movie rules, dunno what mixed things you've heard, every deadhead I know loves it!

make sure to get there early for the animation sequence

Wimmels, Thursday, 20 April 2017 22:38 (one month ago) Permalink

it was really fun. tinged with more menace than i thought (hells angels, dirtbag/obnxious hippies). i can see why people said 'the scene' got pretty ugly

global tetrahedron, Friday, 21 April 2017 15:34 (one month ago) Permalink

current Dead listening - this great collection of 1975 rehearsal jams: http://saveyourface.posthaven.com/blues-for-allah-companion

tylerw, Friday, 21 April 2017 15:50 (one month ago) Permalink

one month passes...

i wrote a couple entries for this thing! it's good, though maybe nothing new to true heads: http://pitchfork.com/features/lists-and-guides/10078-the-grateful-dead-a-guide-to-their-essential-live-songs/

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:07 (three days ago) Permalink

hashtag pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:11 (three days ago) Permalink

looking forward to digging in. not super versed on pre-1969 dead, cream puff war mentioned here is sounding really good

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 18:49 (three days ago) Permalink

That Rare Cuts and Oddities I got into upthread has some intriguing (and fun) early stuff.

dow, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:02 (three days ago) Permalink

Some interesting choices in the pfork thing. Also, surprised to learn James McNew is a Deadhead...was it obvious and I just missed it?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:54 (three days ago) Permalink

yeah, he's been into it for a little while -- there's a pretty amazing tape of him and bill frisell doing Dark Star > Comes A Time from a couple years back

tylerw, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 19:57 (three days ago) Permalink

Well dang---Long Strange Trip is one night only----this Thursday, during the working week---most everywhere, except L.A. and Tri-State area Heads can also pick up tickets for the limited theatrical run, Thursday, May 25- Thursday, June 1st.. Complete list of theaters nationwide and link for tickets here:
http://view.em-dead.net/?qs=b0a1eb0ca5da8e29dc2dea204b91247c016af571c527bfb9abb5fdcabcf158a56f06e0412999e297bbce40a306e7dffa58661dffb9f0b1c09a72d3513161b029

dow, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:02 (three days ago) Permalink

Wow, cool! Thanks for posting that!

xp

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:04 (three days ago) Permalink

Yeah, thanks! Also, that reminded me to check for this (Ornette w GD---he hasn't started playing yet, but so far so good)
And I guess this is the whole show:

dow, Tuesday, 23 May 2017 20:18 (three days ago) Permalink


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