Anyone tried any Kirk stuff? Did he have solo stuff out then? I'm becoming such a fiend I'm even thinking of getting the silly Methodology mid-70's stuff, which I know I won't like most of, but that song "The Single" is so hilarious. I don't know how they even managed to record that without falling into fits of laughter in the process!
― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Sunday, 26 June 2005 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.thegreedyeye.com/
His first release was Disposable Half Truths in 1980, was that on Industrial? Did Industrial still exist, I think he had something on Industrial. I've never heard this.
Then in 83 he put out Time High Fiction, which has similar art processing to the Crackdown but it more raw and experimental if I remember. It's supposed to come with a second record featuring 2 20 minutes songs but my copy had 2 copies of the LP! This is prob. the same time the Crackdown came out with the bonus ep(which, if you're unfortunate enough to have only found the single vinyl Crackdown, you need to get, because it is AWESOME.)
In 1986 he put out two records, one I have on vinyl, the other I downloaded. Ugly Spirit is raw, low-fi, industrial, perhaps closest to the Crepuscule period stuff. Black Jesus Voice however is a totally killer electro record. Great avant-hip-hop/breakdance stuff.
His next stuff would be the Sweet Exorcist records, which is listed on that site as a collaboration. I forget with home. Pretty essential early UK Bleep techno.
1993 I was a freshman in college and he started going crazy. First with 2 great techno CDs. I don't know which one was first. Sandoz was initially his "ethno-techno" project, songs built around african samples and such, and I remember loving the Digital Lifeforms CD, though I lost it ages ago. It's been reissued w/ bonus stuff. Then his first release as Kirk since 86 was his entry into the Warp Artificial Intelligence series, Virtual State. It fits in nicely with the surrounding records of the series, Aphex Twin as Polygon Window, Black Dog Productions, B12 etc. It's an exceptionally warm and beautiful techno record, when the idea of techno as music not made for dancing was an exciting idea. One of my favorite records of the period.
Around that time, he was using the Cabaret Voltaire name for mostly really long sample based ambient stuff that I never got that into. Then he started releasing stuff under a million names and I lost track. Recently he got more into some hard digital dub kinds of stuff, some of which sounded way cool. Nick Gutterbreakz writes about him a lot:
http://gutterbreakz.blogspot.com/
check the archives.
I have the 3CD cabs disk, but not the solo Kirk one, Earlier/Later.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 26 June 2005 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 26 June 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
And I was truly transported into an alternate reality. BEYOND anything Cabaret Voltaire have ever done. Beyond anything Cabaret Voltaire-related, even. I felt like I had been drafted into the movie "2001" and time was moving backwards at a very fast rate. This was NOT Kansas anymore, ladies and gentlemen.
I love that sped-up sample of the woman's voice, too where she keeps saying, in chipmunk fashion "no fucking chance at all...no fucking chance at all..." That is hilarious.
― The Spiderwebbed Wilderness (Bimble...), Saturday, 6 August 2005 07:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Spiderwebbed Wilderness (Bimble...), Saturday, 6 August 2005 07:25 (eighteen years ago) link
where are they hiding?
― Duke Dubuque (Duke Dubuque), Saturday, 21 January 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― nerve pylon (flat_of_angles), Saturday, 21 January 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bimble drinks silver coffee when you're fast asleep (Bimble...), Sunday, 22 January 2006 06:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 22 January 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Love to know the origin of this sample - always puzzled me, as there aren't 70 billion people anywhere.
― soukesian, Sunday, 22 January 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh, sorry, they're ants.
― Duke Dubuque (Duke Dubuque), Sunday, 22 January 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bimble brings a lawn chair to antartica so he can sit and drink silver coff (Bim, Sunday, 22 January 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
almost makes me regret getting rid of 'groovy laid back and nasty'. almost.
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost : it has been years since i was in the mood for their funk, but today its not going to be anything else but - i just know it...
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 11:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.dustscience.com/FrontPage/RichardHKirk-FearProject.php
yummy yummy
― mark e (mark e), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
look carefully at the proposed line up :
http://www.thestar.co.uk/rotherham/Antiracism-rock-festival.4279091.jp
steve mallinder has been back in the uk now for a while so obviously things are back on track.
― mark e, Thursday, 17 July 2008 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link
!!!
― J0hn D., Thursday, 17 July 2008 10:23 (fifteen years ago) link
i have been advised that this is not confirmed, and that in the past promoters have advertised a solo set by RHK as being a CV show. still, seeing as Stephen is uk based there is at least a possiblilty that this is ferreal.
― mark e, Thursday, 17 July 2008 10:35 (fifteen years ago) link
One of the top 5 best bands ever? I mean who the fuck cares about Kraftwerk when you've got Sensoria? Even as it is, only a tiny miniscule of their brilliance, and yet it's still probably the best music video ever made:
(The Mind Boggles) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkfzXq0tA3c
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 19 July 2008 08:38 (fifteen years ago) link
did I mention I'm more goth than you?
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Saturday, 19 July 2008 08:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, I reckon I'm goth enough . . anyway, forgotten just how great 'Sensoria' sounds - played the 12" for weeks after it came out. It's a disgrace that I don't own all of the Cabs work on any modern format.
Consider me agog for any news on a reunion.
― Soukesian, Saturday, 19 July 2008 10:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Re Disposable Half-Truths: Someone at the Princeton Record Exchange talked me into buying that cassette when I was 15. I had heard "Nag3" on Wanna Buy A Bridge? but had no conception of "industrial" music beyond that.
Fuck. Scariest music I ever heard up to that point (excluding "Revolution 9"). I remember listening to it on my Walkman as my parents drove us home through the Mercer County burbs, all the while that chant of "no fucking chance at all...no fucking chance at all..." echoing in my brain.
― mike a, Sunday, 20 July 2008 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Bimble is most assuredly not more goth than me as real goths were disgusted with sell-out Sensoria and won't suffer any Cabs later than the Fools Game/Eddie's Out 12".
― J0hn D., Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:08 (fifteen years ago) link
basically, if you can understand what Mallinder's saying and you still like it, you gotta turn in yr goth card
― J0hn D., Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I like the early-middle period Cabaret Voltaire. Still dark and weird, but getting a little pop. Kinda like the UK electronic version of Chrome. For some reason I put them along the same lines.
― burt_stanton, Sunday, 20 July 2008 04:13 (fifteen years ago) link
I can definitely hear parallels with Chrome
― Soukesian, Sunday, 20 July 2008 10:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Aw yeah. Kiss my assz bitchez.
Cheers to Mike A. for mentioning "Disposable Half Truths". You're going to make me pull that out now. And add it to my iPod.
Burt, I sent you an email the other day. Check yer spam folder if you don't see it.
― Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 20 July 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link
i like three mantras and red mecca and that's all i ever felt the need for (except for 24x5 but I listen to that less, in fact, never)
― akm, Sunday, 20 July 2008 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link
I think I had a problem with looped matter-of-fact phrases over noisy backup. Something about the repetition seemed ominous and creepy to me.
― mike a, Sunday, 20 July 2008 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link
Love this band.
― latebloomer, Sunday, 20 July 2008 23:43 (fifteen years ago) link
Has any band ever spawned more imitators, all of whom are not remembered now?
― Mark G, Monday, 21 July 2008 08:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Photo finish with Throbbing Gristle
― Tom D., Monday, 21 July 2008 09:12 (fifteen years ago) link
well following that gig i posted about a few months ago (did anyone here go along ?) it looks like the 'band' are back.just heard that they have remixed NZ band Koras.well, it's not really 'they', as Mal is still remaining a silent partner, it's Kirk doing the work, a la Conversation era. i've also heard that there are to be a couple of shows with a lot of emphasis on the visuals.
― mark e, Wednesday, 19 November 2008 18:20 (fifteen years ago) link
loving this declaration on the cd-r label : "forged in sheffield"
― mark e, Monday, 24 November 2008 11:27 (fifteen years ago) link
is there any way one can get said cd-r
― J0hn D., Monday, 24 November 2008 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link
attention any Cabs fans past or present btw, this is incredible: http://goatsend.blogspot.com/2008/08/cabaret-voltaire-rock-city-nottingham.html
― J0hn D., Monday, 24 November 2008 14:21 (fifteen years ago) link
What in god's name is better than this? WHAT?<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/OBFvNPckqSE&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/OBFvNPckqSE&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
― With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 1 January 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link
"Over And Over" is the name of the song. What in the hell in this world is better than that? Please let me know.
― With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 1 January 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
― dan selzer, Thursday, 1 January 2009 23:27 (fifteen years ago) link
DAN! Thank you!!!
― With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Thursday, 1 January 2009 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link
It's all about the drummer's mullet, btw.
― With Oatmeal Sauce (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 2 January 2009 02:50 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, i thought i had a mix with the sample on it.that mix is also included on the Remixed compilation.'Remixed' + 'The Original Sound of Sheffield 83-87' : both are brilliant entry points to this era.
― mark e, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:00 (nine months ago) link
I really like some of the post code pre ambient club tracks that really just sound like solo sandoz sweet exorcist Kirk tracks with the occasional interjection from Mal saying something like “Colours…colors”
― dan selzer, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:21 (nine months ago) link
Cabaret Voltaire's Postcode: NG7 7EW
― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 14 July 2023 18:28 (nine months ago) link
dont get me wrong, i absolutely love RHK 'solo' stuff.but for some reason i gave up re CV after 'The Conversation'.suspect it was mainly due to the scarcity of finding the cd editions, and now they are £££.
― mark e, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:32 (nine months ago) link
i did manage to find this in the bins once though, which is basically an album and includes his SE cohort Parrot :
https://www.discogs.com/release/34719-Cabaret-Voltaire-Percussion-Force
― mark e, Friday, 14 July 2023 18:34 (nine months ago) link
lol.
Here's the mix with the sample:
ah! memory mix-up!
― stirmonster, Saturday, 15 July 2023 07:45 (nine months ago) link
by the way noted poster JCLC posted this amazing Crackdown-era Dutch radio set on FB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCJGRGQ8uq0
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Saturday, 15 July 2023 23:45 (nine months ago) link
that set is so good!
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 16 July 2023 02:23 (nine months ago) link
but for some reason i gave up re CV after 'The Conversation'.suspect it was mainly due to the scarcity of finding the cd editions, and now they are £££.
the only ones after that are the modern albums, are those actually OOP? I see them on vinyl all the time
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 16 July 2023 03:45 (nine months ago) link
(those albuums don't do a whole lot for me, I think I gave shadow of fear and dekadrone each one listen)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 16 July 2023 03:46 (nine months ago) link
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)
ooops. i got the chronology incorrect.
i missed out on 'body and soul', 'plasticity', and 'international language' as i never saw them out in the real world, but i did pick up 'the conversation'.
as for the recent albums, i really loved 'shadow of fear', and the 'shadow of funk' ep.i got the two drone albums of course, but its not often i'm in the mood for them.actually the best CV like release for me by RHK, was his last 'solo' album, Dasein.
― mark e, Sunday, 16 July 2023 11:03 (nine months ago) link
Mallinder's recent solo album (not Wrangler) is really excellent.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 16 July 2023 12:15 (nine months ago) link
Dasein is great.
― dan selzer, Sunday, 16 July 2023 12:44 (nine months ago) link
Am i correct in thinking those early 90s albums (which are not that compelling) are more or less Kirk solo albums? If so, was there some falling out between Mallinder and Kirk?
― Gerard Grisey Funk (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 16 July 2023 15:10 (nine months ago) link
i think Plasticity is pretty good but does feel more like a RHK solo album, despite some Mallinder involvement.
― stirmonster, Sunday, 16 July 2023 16:37 (nine months ago) link
suspect i would love all of the RHK/CV releases now given how much i have succumbed to the RHK solo thing.also, there are the 2 CV releases that seem to have been forgotten about.once RHK had the name, he made 2 remix albums using the CV brand.tDR did the art, and amrik 'fon records' rai sorted out the logistics.personally, i love both remix albums as they definitely have the CV sound via the juddering synths.
https://www.discogs.com/master/244139-Kora-Cabaret-Voltaire-Kora-Kora-Kora-The-Cabaret-Voltaire-Versions
https://www.discogs.com/release/2306312-The-Tivoli-Vs-Cabaret-Voltaire-National-Service-Rewind
― mark e, Sunday, 16 July 2023 21:41 (nine months ago) link