― Jon, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― DG, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― bnw, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― JC, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Andy, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 24 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
1 album/fake debates in Brit-press on the future of RAWK&ROLL/"Man, if you don't like The Strokes you don't like rock, man"/disappointing sales/2030: remember these guys?
― Omar, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― dave q, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
We'll see.
You can't really ask classic or dud before the debut album though, surely?!
― Nick Southall, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Who — completely by bad luck and unlucky timing — your first posts somewhat reminded some of us of, hence the mean-ass whirlwind you inadvertently walked into, Nick. i.e. We thought you were someone else in new disguise and were goading him out of hiding. Our instant disgreements would have been a lot more polite and friendly (or anyway less sneery) had DP not been buggering abt so assiduously up till a week ago.
Unfortunately a talk-board this big and diverse tends to acquire a hate figure to unify it: he left, you arrived, and you Got Elected. I would like to propose you are hereby UNELECTED (DG? Robin? Cool it!) as Top Hate Figure, because you have no more deserved it than I have. (Esp. as your outburst at OBJECTIVITY vs SUBJECTIVITY wasn't a meeeeeeellion miles from my own feelings abt some of it: ie that it was a bit ponderous and up itself..., tho some of it was somewhat more sarcastic than first meets the eye)
Your degree was in Popular Culture and Cultural Studies, wan't it? (Sorry, I read it in Introduce Yourself and have now forgotten the exact wording.) So a. You surely have intellectual interests in common with lots of us. b. You're probably a bit bored with the more dreary or inadequate reaches of same (jeezus GOD fair enough). We seem at this moment to be having a mini-season of replication of grad-school discussion of Lit Theory. Which ius getting nowehere because it is too REPECKFUL of FAMOUS-NAME cliches, and BOUGHT-IN READYMADE MEMES. (I won't say names NOW, because I am preparing devasting hilarious war oh yes...) (Is it a meme if it's rubbish?)
I think in its scrappy wayward dilettante way this board in 11 months has contributed FAR more to CultStud than several of the bigwigs on your booklist for your postmodernism essay ever have or ever will. Seriously. Better ideas anyway. Not followed through: this is the internet and instant hedonism rules.
This is a sort of apology/friendly gesture/welcome-to-the-board-after-a-v.hairy-start type thing.
Now: LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
― mark s, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Um, thanks. Yeah.
― Melissa W, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
The same 13 year-olds who bought into Oasis all those years ago (myself included).
― Julio Desouza, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
I wish I was still 13, I could run forever and I was wicked a football.
Anyone who starts a track the way The Strokes start NYC Cops deserves a medal, because it's just got verve and spunk to it, and that's ace.
But I'm genetically pre-disposed to anyone who sounds like the Velvets and The Stooges anywa, especially if they chuck in some glorious pop hooks and some suggestion of melancholy.
I actually don't like anyting that's remotely retro now because I really like music that appears to me to be more original/experimental but that doesn't matter in the world of pop. As long as they have a bit of charisma, they could be huge (even that might not matter- look at Travis?)
I'd much rather listen to The Strokes than Travis. Why? More up my street. Plus the second track on the debut EP has the best drum beat ever...
ehehehehehehe...
― Andy, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― gareth, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― alex in nyc, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Geoff, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
There are a million bands like the uninspiring Strokes, at least one of which is playing in a pub or bar near you tonight. If I was in a band as workaday as them, I'd be fucking *staggered* if we got two lines in the local freesheet.
Still, they're upper middle class and I understand daddy is a big cheese in the fashion industry. Probably explains a lot.
― Venga, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Jerry, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― colin clark, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
If you're going to focus on a New York rock group, go check out the Joyous Nu Order stylings of Interpol, or freaky-deaky Providence transplants like Les Savy Fav, or the posh new-wave poetry of My Favorite. And might I add that I'm terribly disappointed that the No- Depression types in the UK press STILL haven't picked up on the greatness that is Ida? (Or are you folks strictly looking at those folks that are only a few spiritual steps away from Nashville, like Laura Cantrell or Ryan Adams? They're all fine and good, mind you, but, for the luvva Loretta Lynn, open your bloody ears!)
And I think there's a definite Can-via-the-Fall garage rock thing happening with Clinic (especially on stuff like "The Return of Evil Bill").
― David Raposa, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Why see a band? Stay home with a video of Kurt Cobain’s belches, if that’s your speed. You like the band who remind you of the time that you once had when the world didn’t matter. Personally, I like a band who can play to 30 people and make it seem like 31. A band who realise that rock shows are mundane, pointless. A passing diversion. Capes don’t do it for me. Neither do hair-slides. You think a band’s going to win me over through the sheer brilliance of their invention or musicianship? Get real. The last time I saw someone original, I was being belted on the back by a midwife. “Thank you. If you cheer loud enough, we will not return.” Music is the great comforter, the pacifier. Here’s the reason I like angular NYC quintet Les Savy Fav. They don’t remind me of any of the above bands. No. They remind me of explosive, obstreperous Dutch insurrectionists The Ex. (Hah!) Also, songs like “Wake Up!” , ‘This Incentive” and “Titan” (from new album “The Cat And The Cobra”) know when to start and when to stop. Frankly, though, neither of those are reasons at all - however frantically Mr Harrison Haynes bangs on his drums, or Mr Seth Jabour labours to invent slightly different sounds on his battered guitar. No. Les Savy Fav charm all 30 of us tonight in the UK’s Smallest Venue Offical - and believe me, it really does feel like there are 31 present - because they try. An event isn’t an event unless the people there treat it as such. So the deceptively normal-looking singer Mr Tim Harrington goes on walkabout. He examines an array of different objects - lights, fans, beer glasses, an audience member’s hand, turntables, the front door, every audience member’s back, the ceiling - while sing/shouting. He jumps up. He jumps down. He’s polite, yet intense. He makes us feel privileged to be in Brighton, England.
Sorry, but I thought someone might be interested. I have no idea what these Strokes are you people seem so interested in. But I do know what "Diff'rent Strokes" are.
― Nicole, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
(Oh, yeah - the obvious gag. Har-de-har-har-har.)
Supposedly, at a show I attended, Mr. Harrington attempted to mount the face of an audience member. How the hell did I miss THAT?!? (Jerry - get that LSF bitch published somewhere, yo - they could use the press. And their latest release, actually, is the _Rome_ EP on Southern Records. New album coming soon, too!)
In the US, I doubt The Strokes would be able to sell water to dehydrated camels, no matter how good they are. Andy speaketh the truth - it's all about boobies (or, in Fred's case, boobs).
You want rock & melon-farmin' roll, you want some Ted Leo (who just so happens to have an album out on Lookout!, which seems to be quite the hot ticket nowadays, though I still need to get my own copy to judge for myself, but I liked Ted's 1st solo effort, along with Chisel's later efforts, so my endorsement for Ted is justified). (Thank you.)
Fuck the Strokes - name some other fresh-n-new rock bands, maaaaan.
― Richard Tunnicliffe, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
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― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― stuck+in+nyc, Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
I saw the end of Les Savy Fav when they opened for the Ex at the Knitting Factory. Eh.
― Dave M., Wednesday, 25 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
I'm starting to think we're being linked to by a Jonathan Fire*Eater album, containing all three people who are familiar with them in 2009.
― Enormous Epic (Matt DC), Friday, 15 May 2009 23:49 (4 years ago) Permalink
The Strokes themselves have admitted their massive debt to JF*E.
I think the initial UK gaga explosion was from people who never heard JF*E, and even if it is misguided, the gaga train can't be block on its trip across the Atlantic ocean since it is powered by that grossly invincible NME fuel. That's how we ended up where we are unfortunately.
― litcofsky, Saturday, 16 May 2009 00:09 (4 years ago) Permalink
I like JFE but their kinda slow-ass compared to the Strokes
― da croupier, Saturday, 16 May 2009 00:13 (4 years ago) Permalink
they're, rather.
and that doesn't mean better-worse per se, but it's not like the Strokes were a photocopy
― da croupier, Saturday, 16 May 2009 00:15 (4 years ago) Permalink
They were called Jonathan Fire*Eater, they got what they deserved
― Niles Caulder, Saturday, 16 May 2009 02:27 (4 years ago) Permalink
Also I never heard a fun JFE song, were there any?
these little monkeys and when prince was a kid probably the funnest jfe songs.
― mizzell, Saturday, 16 May 2009 02:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
new member!
― mizzell, Thursday, 30 September 2010 21:09 (2 years ago) Permalink
I don't get why peeps upthread are comparing them to Jonathan Fire*Eater (they likely doomed their whole career with the band name alone) but while we're at it I'll give my 5 cents and say the 'tremble under boom lights' ep is the only thing even worth listening by those guys.
― Moka, Thursday, 30 September 2010 21:32 (2 years ago) Permalink
But then, 'Is this it' is the only album even worth listening by the Strokes. I like to pretend that 'Little Joy' solo project was their following album before they disbanded. Hope they prove me wrong next time.
― Moka, Thursday, 30 September 2010 21:34 (2 years ago) Permalink
Some of you must spend 98% of your day walking around in an uncontrollable rage and I feel very sorry for you.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 September 2010 21:39 (2 years ago) Permalink
Whoa, really wrong thread.
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 30 September 2010 21:43 (2 years ago) Permalink
uncontrollable rage can cause strokes
― who's got the (platform) 9 3/4ths? (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 30 September 2010 21:45 (2 years ago) Permalink
Why are there other bands called the Strokes or JF*E that I'm not aware of?
― Moka, Thursday, 30 September 2010 21:50 (2 years ago) Permalink
Because I think they're fine but you definitely wont see me throwing my panties their way.
― Moka, Thursday, 30 September 2010 21:51 (2 years ago) Permalink
I just heard New York City Cops for the first time in a while, with it's lol metarock intro. God I hate this fucking band.
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 16:15 (9 months ago) Permalink
fun to listen to "Is This It" and pretend it was a really "experimental" Matthew Sweet album.
― Cunga, Thursday, 20 December 2012 18:54 (5 months ago) Permalink
new song is kinda puzzling, possibly in a good way
reminds me of The Chipmunks doing A-Hahttp://pitchfork.com/news/49301-listen-the-strokes-new-song-one-way-trigger/
― mh (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 January 2013 19:58 (3 months ago) Permalink
possibly in a good way
If by good you mean "it doesn't compel me to end my own life" then, yeah.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 25 January 2013 20:07 (3 months ago) Permalink
Dreadful
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 25 January 2013 20:11 (3 months ago) Permalink
good to hear the strokes still suck. gives life a satisfying sense of order.
― Spectrum, Friday, 25 January 2013 20:12 (3 months ago) Permalink
what's incredible is that these guys are still young enough to be the same age as most 2013 buzzband groups
― Cunga, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:23 (3 months ago) Permalink
That first album still stands up.
― i would never inflict the process of making a sandwich on myself (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:32 (3 months ago) Permalink
That was really, really, really terrible, redeemed only by the hilarious comments on the Soundcloud. I don't begrudge stylistic changes by bands I like, but for god's sake that was like MGMT for deaf people.
― Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:06 (3 months ago) Permalink
reminds me of that 'diff'rent strokes' britisher covers thing a while ago
― dutch tl;drs (electricsound), Friday, 25 January 2013 23:51 (3 months ago) Permalink
back when mash-ups were a thing this would have spawned an "take on me" hybrid within 6 hours
― Z S, Friday, 25 January 2013 23:54 (3 months ago) Permalink
This is growing on me
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:02 (3 months ago) Permalink
Room on Fire is secretly better than the first album
― baby beluga (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 28 January 2013 00:31 (3 months ago) Permalink
Good God that is fucking ATROCIOUS.
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 28 January 2013 00:59 (3 months ago) Permalink
Not sure if anyone will care but the new album is available to stream here.
http://pitchfork.com/advance/48-comedown-machine/
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 18 March 2013 21:37 (2 months ago) Permalink
I've been listening to it, but I didn't know which thread to revive.
It's remarkably okay, but I guess anything they recorded would be considered an improvement on Angles.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 18 March 2013 21:42 (2 months ago) Permalink
I'm over half way through and it sounds like a mixed bag but there are some really good moments.
When Angles came out I really liked it and defended it on one of the Strokes threads but listening to it again recently I didn't enjoy it that much at all. There were probably three or four songs that were decent.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 18 March 2013 21:48 (2 months ago) Permalink
Okay, Partners in Crime is like the best thing they've done since Room on Fire.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 18 March 2013 21:51 (2 months ago) Permalink
they should just keep making that one song from their first two albums over and over i mean why not
― lag∞n, Monday, 18 March 2013 21:54 (2 months ago) Permalink
I reckon it'll be a grower like Angles was. When I first heard that album, it was all very "WTF?" to me but I grew to like it. Not quite as good as Is This It? or First Impressions Of Earth, but a good solid album all the same.
― Slash N Burn, Monday, 18 March 2013 22:43 (2 months ago) Permalink
Room on Fire is my favourite these days. Is This It is a great album but I just overplayed it so much back in the day that I just don't play it that much anymore. First Impressions is a lot better than people say but it need need a lot of trimming, it would be a solid 10 track album.
New one sounds a lot more interesting than Angles. As I said I went from loving that album to really not rating it all. Machu Picchu, Under Cover of Darkness, Taken for a Fool and Gratisfaction are the only keepers.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 18 March 2013 23:00 (2 months ago) Permalink
"What kind of asshole drives a Lotus?" made me lol and was a great rhyme
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 March 2013 23:33 (2 months ago) Permalink
surprised to be digging this! weird, seems so far that the 2 songs they released prior were the worst songs
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 March 2013 23:39 (2 months ago) Permalink
Yeah the Lotus line is great.
This was the least excited I've ever been for one of their albums but I'm pleasantly surprised. I actually really liked All The Time, it's just a really simple song that always seems to gets stuck in my head. It does rip off it's chorus from All Mod Cons by The Jam though.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 18 March 2013 23:49 (2 months ago) Permalink
Room on Fire is my favourite these days. Is This It is a great album but I just overplayed it so much back in the day
I don't listen to them anymore but, yes, this.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 March 2013 23:52 (2 months ago) Permalink
Can't imagine ever actively listening to them
― OutdoorFish, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 01:41 (2 months ago) Permalink
officially nearly loving this record
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 25 March 2013 20:38 (1 month ago) Permalink
i felt sort of indifferent to it on the first two listens but on the third listen somehow the melodies appeared and they're all great
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 25 March 2013 20:41 (1 month ago) Permalink
I need to give it another shot, on first listen it was very eh
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 25 March 2013 21:58 (1 month ago) Permalink
Best one since Rooms on Fire undoubtedly. Maybe the best one period, because not every song is identical.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 25 March 2013 22:00 (1 month ago) Permalink
so, brmc vs the strokes for cover art shoot out .. who wins ..
― mark e, Monday, 25 March 2013 22:00 (1 month ago) Permalink
I'm not a Strokes partisan, though, so ymmv.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 25 March 2013 22:01 (1 month ago) Permalink
Yeah I have been playing this a lot, it's just really fun and a lot of the songs are quite addictive. Partners in Crime should have been the first single really. Easily their best since Room on Fire.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 00:50 (1 month ago) Permalink
this is really growing on me
it's funny, albert hammond has quietly turned into this peculiar virtuoso guitar player, at first i was like damn this is kind of a synth album but the more i listen i think it's just hammond using shitloads of guitar effects (almost like some kinda elliot eason of the cars meets tom morello type thing)
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 20:34 (1 month ago) Permalink
so I've been listening to this a bit lately and it's surprisingly good (except for 2 or 3 horrible, horrible songs, including the 2nd single).many nice melodies and hooks, good production that's both basic/DIY and 80s rock FM.I'm not sure it adds anything but I enjoy it, especially with the spring mood at the moment.
― AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 15:10 (1 month ago) Permalink