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I wish I had something besides Mass Romantic. Is there anything else?

Scaredy Cat, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 23:40 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

new album has been on soulseek for weeks. Also search their cover of "Your Daddy Don't Know"

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 23:47 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

Gracias. I hope it comes out the same as Fountains of Wayne so that I have so much good music I just can't decide what to listen to.

Scaredy Cat, Wednesday, 30 April 2003 23:52 (fourteen years ago) Permalink

six years pass...

Together, new album out May 4th on Matador. Better album art this time around. Slightly more info here.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2010 21:47 (seven years ago) Permalink

i almost missed this, looking forward to some new stuff.

Bee OK, Friday, 22 January 2010 04:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

If the "First Look Video" is any indication, this will be a rock record (i.e., not "power-pop"). It sounds good.

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 27 January 2010 01:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

new song on matablog today

call all destroyer, Monday, 22 February 2010 15:59 (seven years ago) Permalink

Good tune. Also, great cover!

Simon H., Monday, 22 February 2010 16:20 (seven years ago) Permalink

so, theyre trying to go back to the Twin Cinema sound, but sadly, the new song isn't so good. the chorus is ok, but the verse...

Zeno, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:03 (seven years ago) Permalink

01 Moves
02 The Crash Years
03 Your Hands (Together)
04 Silver Jenny Dollar
05 Sweet Talk, Sweet Talk
06 My Shepherd
07 If You Can't See My Mirrors
08 Up in the Dark
09 Valkyrie in the Roller Disco
10 A Bite Out of My Bed
11 Daughters of Sorrow
12 We End Up Together

Zeno, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:06 (seven years ago) Permalink

those are some of the worst song titles i've ever heard

Tracer Hand, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:07 (seven years ago) Permalink

Valkyrie in the Roller Disco is quite good in a GBV sort of way..

i bet Daughters of Sorrow is a Destroyer tune

Zeno, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:10 (seven years ago) Permalink

yeah, was going to guess from the titles which ones are Bejar's: Daughters of Sorrow definitely. Maybe Silver Jenny Dollar too.

tylerw, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

i dig this new song, mostly as a statement of intent (i.e., "this is a rock album -- not challengers pt. II"). not their best, but better than the title track from twin cinema, actually.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 22 February 2010 17:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

but better than the title track from twin cinema, actually.

no way!!

call all destroyer, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:26 (seven years ago) Permalink

Yeah, what the hell is this?

ksh, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:27 (seven years ago) Permalink

otm

Zeno, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

one of those 'oh, they're still going' bands

thomp, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hope i'll be proved wrong, but the AC Newman songwriting formula now looks overused/out-of-date-so-00's now..

Zeno, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:34 (seven years ago) Permalink

It's alright, we still have Twin Cinema--the only NP record I've heard in full, and the only record of theirs I'll probably ever need.

ksh, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

so 00s hahaha

but seriously I kinda had the same reaction, too.

xpost

Cunga, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

"out-of-date" Newman-style powerpop >>>> 90% of new indie-fux0r shit

Simon H., Monday, 22 February 2010 17:42 (seven years ago) Permalink

uh yeah, no kidding

tylerw, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:43 (seven years ago) Permalink

sorry. finding a bigger fan than me of twin cinema, the album, would be hard. but the title song wasn't among my favorites, and i know it was one of the big ac newman "rock" songs on the disc, which is why hearing the new one brought the comparison to mind.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 22 February 2010 17:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Twin Cinema (the album) for me was the apex of The New Pornographers as an idea. Supergroups, indie or otherwise, rarely live up to expectations. TNP's had done it on several songs before that, but the Twin Cinema album was absolutely phenomenal (even Carl's title track). Such a thing will probably never happen again, but it took me over a year to really appreciate Challengers... so what do I know.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 22 February 2010 17:51 (seven years ago) Permalink

challengers is better than it was given credit for. they didn't let the songs soar (i.e., they tried too hard to make a "mature album," but the songs themselves had lots of potential). i don't see why they couldn't equal or top twin cinema.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 22 February 2010 17:54 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really like Challengers, it's got some of their best tunes on it. I'd say each record has at least six stone-cold awesome tracks, so if they can keep the quality level up I'll be satisfied.

Simon H., Monday, 22 February 2010 17:56 (seven years ago) Permalink

"out-of-date" Newman-style powerpop >>>> 90% of new indie-fux0r shit

Correct. I rate Electric Version slightly over Twin Cinema for sheer tunedom, though they're both crammed with splendidness. Challengers was not as consistently compelling, but has some really excellent songs, and IMHO "Adventures In Solitude" is probably the best song Newman has ever written.

Freedom, Monday, 22 February 2010 18:25 (seven years ago) Permalink

I can't snark on a band that is responsible for the existence of "The Bleeding Heart Show."

ksh, Monday, 22 February 2010 18:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

yes. bleeding heart show and sing me spanish techo stand at the top of an album of amazing high-points.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 22 February 2010 18:37 (seven years ago) Permalink

Besides being strong from beginning to end, Twin Cinema was also paced really, really well. Opening with "Twin Cinema," closing with "Stacked Crooked"? Excellent.

ksh, Monday, 22 February 2010 18:46 (seven years ago) Permalink

Would have been a perfect record had they lopped off "Broken Beads" and "Three or Four," mind.

Also, I haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere, but Challengers had some great outtakes - esp. "The Speed of Luxury" and "Fortune."

Simon H., Monday, 22 February 2010 18:48 (seven years ago) Permalink

Would have been a perfect record had they lopped off "Broken Beads" and "Three or Four," mind.

so true. there's a stretch of semi-mediocre songs that do drag the album down a bit, but that's quibbling, given all the high-points -- twin cinema was my favorite album of the decade for a long time.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 22 February 2010 18:50 (seven years ago) Permalink

I like Three or Four a lot, you guys!

Johnny Fever, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:16 (seven years ago) Permalink

both those songs are awesome

call all destroyer, Monday, 22 February 2010 19:22 (seven years ago) Permalink

meh.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 22 February 2010 19:23 (seven years ago) Permalink

At least Challengers was better than the last A.C. Newman album Get Guilty. That one never sunk in.

Heresy: All New Pornographers albums would be improved by the removal of Dan Bejar songs except "Jackie Dressed in Cobras" which is awesome.

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:11 (seven years ago) Permalink

All New Pornographers albums would be improved by the removal of Dan Bejar songs except "Jackie Dressed in Cobras" which is awesome.

^ this!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:12 (seven years ago) Permalink

I really loved A.C. Newman's first solo album, I think that was released in '04

subversive time travel (FACK), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:14 (seven years ago) Permalink

Never got Dan Bejar, honestly except for "To Wild Homes."

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:19 (seven years ago) Permalink

i hate destroyer but he's contributed 1-2 good songs to all the new pornos albums

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:30 (seven years ago) Permalink

!

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:31 (seven years ago) Permalink

Destroyer's Rubies is an excellent record, and 75% of Trouble in Dreams is also solid. "Libby's First Sunrise," the final track off the latter record, is probably one of my favorite songs of his.

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:32 (seven years ago) Permalink

this thread would have been perfect for you, ksh
Destroye's Rubies

i know who the sockpuppet master of ilx is (velko), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:33 (seven years ago) Permalink

didnt that get a 10 on pitchfork?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:35 (seven years ago) Permalink

Apparently you thought the thread was "lol."

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:36 (seven years ago) Permalink

you supply the night, baby, i'll supply the lol

i know who the sockpuppet master of ilx is (velko), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:38 (seven years ago) Permalink

Let's make lots of money.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:39 (seven years ago) Permalink

cad: 8.5

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8970-destroyers-rubies/

ksh, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 03:40 (seven years ago) Permalink

Slow Wonder is in league with their best records so, of course - out him in

nostormo, Friday, 27 December 2013 18:14 (three years ago) Permalink

really? always felt like those songs were strong up until the chorus, where they sputtered on the launch-pad instead of taking-off.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 27 December 2013 18:16 (three years ago) Permalink

and i was a huge fan of this band not long ago (felt like i loved challengers at the time, but now can easily see why people say twin cinema was their high-point, with a somewhat uneven decline following it).

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 27 December 2013 18:17 (three years ago) Permalink

Don't know much about the New Pornographers beyond a couple of well known songs, but this is great:

I heard it for the first time very late in 2012--too late for my year-end, but I was able to get it onto my ILM ballot.

clemenza, Friday, 27 December 2013 18:19 (three years ago) Permalink

I dunno. Twin Cinema was a big step forward and "The Bleeding Heart Show" may be their pinnacle but my the highs on Challengers are pretty damn high.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Friday, 27 December 2013 18:22 (three years ago) Permalink

"The Bleeding Heart Show" may be their pinnacle

can't overstate how great a song this is. i've played it enough for a lifetime, but the band deserves like a "lifetime achievement" award for that song alone.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 27 December 2013 18:23 (three years ago) Permalink

Challengers doesn't somehow hold up as a record to listen to all the way through, but its strengths seem as strong as anything they've done.

So we're cool with keeping solo Newman and leaving out all the Case/Bejar/Fancey stuff?

intimately bellowing (staggerlee), Friday, 27 December 2013 19:13 (three years ago) Permalink

i am. case and bejar and fancy's solo projects seem too far afield to include. newman's solo work, obv., isn't so far afield.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 27 December 2013 19:30 (three years ago) Permalink

Agree re Challengers - the first two albums might be superior overall, but the best parts of Challengers are among the best things they've ever done.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 27 December 2013 20:39 (three years ago) Permalink

no wonder no one talks about Together.
ca we agree it's their worst record?

nostormo, Friday, 27 December 2013 20:55 (three years ago) Permalink

had some really promising song ideas, fragments. never achieved liftoff. listening to it makes me think their energy is gone, even when they try to rev-up the guitars-and-drums.

Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 27 December 2013 21:17 (three years ago) Permalink

But I still rate Together ahead of that 2nd Newman solo record, which had, like, 1-3/4 good songs on it.

intimately bellowing (staggerlee), Saturday, 28 December 2013 19:47 (three years ago) Permalink

three years pass...

the way the chorus in "The Electric Version" just explodes

flappy bird, Saturday, 1 April 2017 18:18 (one month ago) Permalink

Same with "Blown Speakers"

calstars, Saturday, 1 April 2017 18:21 (one month ago) Permalink

Or is it "Brown Speakers?" same thing I guess

calstars, Saturday, 1 April 2017 18:21 (one month ago) Permalink

"From Blown Speakers." that one is so great, too. also "The Laws Have Changed." never been able to get into any of their albums, but I love half a dozen or so of their tracks.

flappy bird, Saturday, 1 April 2017 18:25 (one month ago) Permalink

Favorite moment of the band is Neko screaming the chorus of "Letter"

calstars, Saturday, 1 April 2017 18:33 (one month ago) Permalink

And if you haven't heard fancey's first one with the orange on the cover, you should

calstars, Saturday, 1 April 2017 18:34 (one month ago) Permalink

so how's the new one?

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 1 April 2017 19:44 (one month ago) Permalink

Meh

calstars, Saturday, 1 April 2017 20:45 (one month ago) Permalink

uh no

not meh

alpine static, Sunday, 2 April 2017 21:41 (one month ago) Permalink

Whiteout Conditions =

second installment of an incredible resurgence after the (relative) disappointment of Challengers and (especially) Together

worthy follow-up to the brilliant Brill Bruisers

packed top-to-bottom with perfect Newman New Wave/kraut-pop bangers

latest chapter of the finest discography of the 21st century

alpine static, Sunday, 2 April 2017 21:46 (one month ago) Permalink

perspective i will accept/acknowledge: it is kind of starting to sound like Carl could do this in his sleep?

alpine static, Sunday, 2 April 2017 21:47 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah, carl is good but best in small doses, which is why neko and dan are missed so much

calstars, Sunday, 2 April 2017 22:25 (one month ago) Permalink

thanking u alpine static for thoughtful summary
really hated to FP u but Challengers is fantastic

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 2 April 2017 22:39 (one month ago) Permalink

Which are Neko songs on the new one?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 2 April 2017 22:48 (one month ago) Permalink

FP = ?

you're right, rogermexico., Challengers is fantastic. i sort of lump it together with Together, which is unfair ... i just revisited the tracklist of Challengers and yes, it's great. it's really only Together that I struggle with a bit.

but again, this band's worst moments are still better than most's best, imo

alpine static, Monday, 3 April 2017 07:04 (one month ago) Permalink

FP = ?

'face penetrate'

sleepingbag, Monday, 3 April 2017 07:05 (one month ago) Permalink

hmm, that's worse than i thought

alpine static, Monday, 3 April 2017 07:29 (one month ago) Permalink

lol - "flag post" but obv i was kidding

challengers disappointed a lot of people at the time bc it wasn't Twin Cinema II but it really holds up and imo may be their strongest top to bottom. title track is about as good as it gets if you don't go in looking for the auditory sugar highs of e.g. from blown speakers, mass romantic, the bleeding heart show etc etc all of which i obviously love.

together... yeah. better than a lot of outfits' best and some fine numbers but eh...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 3 April 2017 22:16 (one month ago) Permalink

Challengers is classic.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 01:01 (one month ago) Permalink

yep. together is the one that is pretty much just a dud.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 01:36 (one month ago) Permalink

Agreed. "Sweet Talk, Sweet Talk" is the only keeper from that one.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 01:51 (one month ago) Permalink

if i didn't love "crash years" or "up in the dark" so much i'd consider agreeing with that nonsense

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 03:50 (one month ago) Permalink

otm

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 04:04 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah

new one sounds a bit noisy on first listen - but "high ticket attractions" is awesome

niels, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 10:43 (one month ago) Permalink

I could honestly listen to Neko sing "For a fee I'll fight any foe" in Play Money all day long on repeat. Not even the whole song, just that chorus.

Lauren Schumer Donor (Phil D.), Friday, 7 April 2017 13:09 (one month ago) Permalink

Amen to that

calstars, Friday, 7 April 2017 13:14 (one month ago) Permalink

This is their best album at least since Challengers (which as I said above I regard as a classic - severely underrated at the time of its release). On first listen I loved every moment of the new one.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 7 April 2017 13:27 (one month ago) Permalink

The title track is great!

van smack, Saturday, 8 April 2017 04:51 (one month ago) Permalink

ac newman is kinda a giant weirdo

Mordy, Tuesday, 18 April 2017 22:01 (one month ago) Permalink

It's Raffi making a pretty mild criticism of the name which makes perfect sense of you consider who Raffi is, then Newman freaks out with 15 persecution complex tweets, gross

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:39 (one month ago) Permalink

After A.C. Newman saw Raffi’s tweet, he said, “TFW someone whose music you loved as a child says mean things about your life’s work.” Newman then clarified that he’s “not very familiar” with Raffi’s music and was attempting to “make him feel bad” with his tweets.

Treeship, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 13:53 (one month ago) Permalink

speaking as someone who only seven days ago referenced puppetry of the penis here on ilxor dot com, i must move to condemn ac newman's comment that their show is 'in bad taste'

years of immersion in the seduction community (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:01 (one month ago) Permalink

penis puppets for everyone

years of immersion in the seduction community (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:01 (one month ago) Permalink

if raffi didn't want to get harassed by irritable indie rock celebrities he shouldn't have joined twitter

Treeship, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:04 (one month ago) Permalink

the new pornographers are one of my favorite bands and have been ridiculously consistent over the last 17 years not to mention all the incredible side projects from band members

also their name is dumb af

Mordy, Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:05 (one month ago) Permalink

if ac newman didn't want to get sonned by raffi after a porno beef he shouldn't have been born

years of immersion in the seduction community (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 19 April 2017 14:07 (one month ago) Permalink


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