Aerosmith C/D?

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Really been listening to them a lot. I adore Tyler's willingness to scat, vocalize without words, etc. I even dug that sound he made at the end of "Don't Wanna Miss A Thing."

Rocks might be my fave album, and I keep hoping they'll make another comeback. Personal highlights include Lick And A Promise (my fave), What It Takes, Sick As A Dog, Walk This Way, Lord Of The Thighs, Love In An Elevator, No More No More, Pink (it's like red but not quite! horrible video though), Sweet Emotion, Back in the saddle.

At his best, is Steven Tyler the best singer ever? I might say so.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:03 (10 years ago) Permalink

Well, the Power Hour agrees with you.

The 70s stuff, from what I know of it (Greatest Hits and Toys In the Attic + any remaining singles), is great. His voice was fantastic then. It's really tragic what happened to it. It's almost hard to believe he's the same man who sang "Dream On". The song "Toys In the Attic" is great - has this urgent but almost kind of spooky feel. "Walk This Way" actually did something new with the Stooges sound. Agree about "Back In the Saddle" too, also like "Draw the Line". I also like "Rag Doll" and if I'm in a mood to deal with it, "Angel". After that, they truly became one of the worst bands of all time. Nothing can justify "Janie's Got a Gun" or the "Crying"/"Crazy"/"Amazing" trilogy. Perhaps not entirely coincidentally, that was when I'd started listening to campus radio. At that point I think I really saw them as fundamentally evil, a symbol of corruption of the rock industry. In fact, when my friend and I started our first band and were seeking a drummer, I made sure to note that he hated Aerosmith before we met.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:22 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Janie's Got a Gun" is an okay song, but Pump is a fantastic album. And they were never any good again.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

The guitar solo is kinda weak but I dig Janie. Especially the opening sounds Tyler makes. But I ALWAYS like Tyler gibberish.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

His face and voice are the scariest anti-drug commercial ever.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

(I feel bad now - that must be one of the meanest things I've ever posted.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

come on, his voice rocks! It's sounded that way since Rocks, at least.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 00:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

Really? It sounds a lot better (stronger?) to me on "Back In the Saddle" than on "Crying" or "Jaded". But maybe I'm just being thrown off by the songs or the music. I do think there's a difference. I don't have any around at the moment to really listen to and explain in detail. He was also a witty lyricist in the 70s.

Heh, Permanent Vacation was one of the first albums I ever 'got' (taped off my friend).

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 01:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Dream On" definitely shows a different voice on Tyler but I think the change was much earlier than Pump or whatever.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 01:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

I know that there's a change from "Dream On" to "Back In the Saddle" but I think that he did it better then than he did in the 80s and 90s.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 01:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

Aerosmith in Sgt. Pepper's Lonley Hearts Club Band: Classic or Dud?

jm (jtm), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 01:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

classic. in that featuring them as "the evil band" reaffirms how out of touch the makers were. The best scene is when Barry Gibb sings "A Day In The Life" while Peter Frampton kills himself. Then Billy Preston in a marching bad uniform zaps Frampton back to life while singing "Get Back." People should just fastforward to this sequence.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 01:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

crap

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 02:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

Gods who stumbled. And now they crawl.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 02:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'll admit they've been pretty embarassing since they resigned with Columbia.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 02:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

but Steven Tyler still says cool stuff interviews. "Now I've been to Maine, Spain and Spokane...but my daughter didn't think I was cool cuz I didn't know Lizzy McGuire."

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 02:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

was that meant to be funny or sad¿

dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 03:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

They were great on the first five albums, all pretty essential. Actually I think Get Your Wings is the weakest of the lot. I always thought it just kind of slogged through some of those attempts to be "epic" or whatever ("Woman of the World", "Seasons of Whither"). I mean, I'm sorry, that's not them. Plus I always disliked that version of "Train Kept A-Rollin'". It was like they worked out two different arrangements, couldn't decide which was better, so they played 'em both. So yeah, a slight misstep after the very tight debut album, probably due to Jack Douglas coming on board to produce as much as anything else. "Lord of the Thighs" remains one of my favorites though ("Walk This Way" w/ a extra bass hit!)

But the next two? Woah! One of the best one-two punches in rock. I mean, on Rocks all they tried to do was rewrite Toys in the Attic, but it worked wonderfully and probably even produced a superior album (not marred by one-and-done like "Big Ten Inch Record"). Toys does get major points for "Walk This Way", hard as it is to hear that song with anything approaching fresh ears (and I don't know what the heck Sundar is talking about w/r/t The Stooges?! I couldn't think of a more inapt comparison). The "Uncle Salty" - "Adam's Apple" sequence is one of my favorite rock moments.

But Rocks? Well what can you say, one of the best heavy metal records ever. It was like they were teetering on the verge of this interesting American reformulation of metal, and the record where they had really expanded their ideas and dropped a few more overt references. The differences in just riffage and layering and production in Perry's work on this record vis-a-vis the first two is impressive. "Sick As a Dog" is my favorite Aerosmith tune. Anyway, this record pretty much set the template for Guns n' Roses.

Then they threw it all away for Draw the Line. I think it's a wonderful record, but somewhat poignant after the assiduousness of the last two. They were kind of back to the Stones again. Too much booze and drugs. But for all that I think it is their most underrated album, no question. "Critical Mass" really captures that kind of vaguely psychedelic feel they could capture. The Perry-sung "Bright Light Fright" totally punk rock. "I can't find my shoes / the only thing on TV is the good morning news". "Sight For Sore Eyes" another of their great funk hybrids (actually more proto-disco given Kramer's hi-hat pattern). Destroy that "Milk Cow Blues" cover though (but search "Walking the Dog" from the first one! And the Necros totally stole their arrangement of it too).

I really couldn't give a shit about anything after that. Done With Mirrors had some cool stuff.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 06:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

Also, the way Tyler screeches that last verse on "Draw the Line" = insane.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 07:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

i loved that song "pink". what was the name of the song with liv tyler in the video? Where her and her friend go on a car journey? it was a rock ballad-y number. that was cool. i don't have any albums, and i don't think i'd bother, but i like it when i hear them on mtv or whatever.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 07:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

Oh also I forgot I was going to relate the anecdote about how back in the day I got excited reading in some metal mag that Testament were going to cover "Nobody's Fault", but it turned out to be shit. Also, I just went back and listened to the original, and strangely for the first time noted the fact that the drums are double-tracked.

And of course, wouldn't you know, dave q gets at why this record is so great better than I ever could.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 07:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

Mr. Diamond is OTM.

kephm, Wednesday, 16 April 2003 20:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

Mr. Diamond has Aerosmith called right. I used to have Rocks and Draw the Line on 8 track that I used to play all the time on my parents old 70s stereo.

"Combination" off of Rocks has one of my favorite guitar riffs ever. Along with "Nobody's Fault" they are definitely songs that should be better known.

There is just something completely wrong with someone who wrote "Lord of the Thighs" calling up Diane Warren and the people behind Bryan Adams up for songs. They have made tons of cash from their comeback, but outside the song "Hangman Jury", I just think it is overcooked crud.

Along with ZZTop and Lynyrd Skynyrd, they were probably the better American rock and roll bands of the 70s, before punk rock happened.

earlnash, Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

"sleepin late and smokin'tea..." 1st album is soooo classic! but i wish they had broken up after that and formed new bands

SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

I couldn't think of a more inapt comparison

Even if I'd said "They actually did something new with Lawrence Welk's sound"?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

(I dunno, it just seems to me to have a quality of a hard rock band moving as a sort of funky rhythm unit in a way that's not totally Stones or Zeppelin. Obv it was pulled into a mainstream 70s hard rock context. BTW Stooges = Fun House for me. And you're right about the last verse of "Draw the Line".)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 17 April 2003 00:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

haha no! Sorry didn't mean to come off like I'm dissing you. I actually tried to get my ahead around that idea, because it seemed intriguing, but I just can't see it. Tyler is singing about going to high school dances and banging cheerleaders and
See-saw swingin' with the boys in the school
And your feet flyin' up in the air
Singin' hey diddle-diddle with the kitty in the middle
You be swingin' like you just didn't care
.

Iggy sang about boredom and never getting laid, he probably just stood in the corner if he in fact went to dances. I can't imagine him uttering "hey diddle-diddle" under any circumstances. The I'm-a-badass of Raw Power is all about compensating for never being invited to the party. Tyler's already there, getting his big ten-inch sucked.

Plus musically I can't think of a Stooges song that is built upon a single string riff (yeah "Dirt" but that's a different kettle of fish); they're all about slashing chords. The Stooges are rhthymically great - both bands rock - but I can't imagine them leaning on a breakbeat the way "Walk This Way" does. I love drawing neat parallels between all sorts of disparate stuff, but this is one case where I just don't hear it.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 17 April 2003 01:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

a quality of a hard rock band moving as a sort of funky rhythm unit in a way that's not totally Stones or Zeppelin

See I think they were taking from Zep a bit on this track. Specifically in that centrality of the heavy drumbeat overlaid with the "killer riff". The greatest riffs, the ones that play around with rhythm, are wonderful things; but in another sense they don't leave much to negotiate - you get on that train and ride. The Stooges seem more open-ended to me, always with this sense that the whole thing could derail at any time, even if it never does. Actually what happens is that Steve McKay comes along and goes EEEEEAIAIEEEGHRRRYYYYYAA

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Thursday, 17 April 2003 01:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

Well, I definitely wasn't making a comparison lyrically. Even musically, it wasn't something I'd put tons of thought into or anything. I can see what you're saying about the breakbeat and Zeppelin-ish riffing.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 17 April 2003 02:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

I can forgive them anything, just for Tyler's dirty laugh at the start of Love in An Elevator. "Oh, good morning Mr Tyler… Going… down?" Cue Tyler: "mwayukyukhahaha." Absolutely hilarious stroke deeply disturbing. And also because I once saw a picture of Tyler decked in T-shirt emblazoned with the slogan; "Who the fuck is Joe Perry?" They are clearly geniuses.

Alex K (Alex K), Thursday, 17 April 2003 08:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

I hear a little bit of Zeppelin in "Walk This Way" but the feel of the thing--the dexterity of the guitar riff and the way it dances over the beat--is much lighter and looser than Zeppelin's similar forays into funk territory, and less epic. I hear more "Superstition" in there than anything (I like to think they were trying to write their own simplistic version of that; no idea, of course, if this is true).

Put me on the hating side of post-70s Aerosmith (and banish Steven Tyler from all future awards shows while you're at it).

s woods, Thursday, 17 April 2003 13:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...
It might be because I was high but I heard "Crying" I think it was last week and I actually didn't mind it. And his voice really wasn't so bad, especially compared to a lot of other rock singers. In retrospect I think I just hated them at the time because I was starting to really expand my tastes at the time and they just seemed so safe and conservative and mainstream. The pervy dirty-old-man dimension of the videos might not have helped either.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 01:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...
New stuff vs. old stuff? Has any band ever changed their image so much over the course of their career? From Zep/Stones dark rock mystics to Diane Warren vehicle. Strange band.

Richardstone, Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
is Diane Warren writing songs for Aerosmith? That is a shock to the system.

mentalist (mentalist), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 12:20 (9 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
I hate to say it but Aerosmith was an important gateway drug for me into any sort of rock.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 August 2005 01:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

i agree. they were my fave band when i was 13 and didn't know shit about anything.

kingfish completely hatstand (Kingfish), Monday, 15 August 2005 02:43 (7 years ago) Permalink

Joe Perry can play in my band anyday.

jim wentworth (wench), Monday, 15 August 2005 03:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

AEROSMITH: For When You Don't Know Shit About Anything.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 15 August 2005 03:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

i bought 'rocks' about a year ago, and like it, but still haven't given it enough spins. to be amended today perhaps

i've owned pump for about 17 years. still holds up as a pretty tight and interesting rock record with plenty of sleazy hook. have always liked 'janie's got a gun' too. guess i've never got over the soft spot i had for it when i was about 8.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 13 March 2008 03:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

Rocks kicks all sorts of ass. I can't believe the same band that did "Combination" did the crap they did after their "comeback".

Bill Magill, Thursday, 13 March 2008 14:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Ultimately, there are really two Aerosmiths -- the hirsute, drug-gobbling cut-throats of the 70s and the yawnsomely clean n' sober hitmakers and sports bar jukebox fodder of the late 80's through today. Obviously, the former takes a giant, runny, narcotic-laced shit all over the latter.

Best song they ever did: "Back in The Saddle."

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

hahah 'drug-gobbling cut-throats'

im gonna steal that one.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 13 March 2008 15:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I'm saying a prayer for the desperate hearts tonight. How high can you fly with broken wings?

admrl, Thursday, 8 May 2008 11:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

The first three are super classic, the rest up through Done with Mirrors are classic and everything after kind of a dud.

steampig67, Thursday, 8 May 2008 13:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

you people need to refine your purism, I've heard that Done With Mirrors is OK but everybody knows Night in the Ruts is garbage. First album through Draw the Line all various degrees of great including some of my favorite rock moments ever (that last verse of "Draw the Line," the entirety of "Sick as a Dog," loads more). Out to pasture therafter with the possible exception of Done With Mirrors from which I've never heard a note.

J0hn D., Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

to me the biggest tragedy of Aerosmith is that Tyler was once a pretty good/maybe great lyricist - on Rocks and all throughout that early stuff there are really smart turns of phrase, a real ear for how to deliver a line for maximum impact, and what always sounded to me like a genuine love of words & their sounds, of phrases and how they ring. Later, you get fuckin' "livin' it up while I'm goin' down." Ugh.

J0hn D., Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

haha 'living it up while i'm goin down' was surely yet another triumphant winner in the tyler canon of punning genius!

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:17 (5 years ago) Permalink

everybody knows Night in the Ruts is garbage

I don't.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8FG_L3BZ5dY

Post-Done With Mirrors, well, I think "Jaded" is kind of lovely, sort of. Beyond that, yeah, lyrics and vocals both down the tube, obviously.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=705LEH3j2g0

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

lyrics and vocals both down the tube

(Not to mention rhythm section.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

you people need to refine your purism, I've heard that Done With Mirrors is OK but everybody knows Night in the Ruts is garbage.

Man, I love Night in the Ruts. It's just so wasted an desperate sounding. As for some critical consensus, I know a lot folks who dig NitR.

QuantumNoise, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Post-Done With Mirrors, well, I think "Jaded" is kind of lovely, sort of.

I agree! when I first heard that one I was like "maybe they'll be good again"

J0hn D., Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

I should probably buy a used $1 copy of Pump again someday, though, to check out what I may have missed at the time. I'm guessing not much. Was always perplexed back then about what critics heard in it -- Isn't it the only Aerosmith album ever to score in Pazz & Jop?? Liked the idea of "Janies Got a Gun," and mostly figured that's why people cut that one song slack, for its good intentions or whatever; but maybe the rest was better than I gave it credit for. Still think there were plenty of hair-metal bands doing Aerosmith better than Aerosmith in the mid/late '80s, though.

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

pump is pretty cool. all studio polish and glisten of course, but generally speaking a lot of fun. hooks are accentuated by the nice big angular sound they have going and about half the songs are well worth a damn.

for what it's worth, i think the vocal delivery on 'janie's got a gun' is top notch

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

you people need to refine your purism, I've heard that Done With Mirrors is OK

Heh:

Done With Mirrors [Geffen, 1985]
Their knack for the basic song and small interest in guitar-hero costume drama always made them hard rock that deserved the name, not to mention an American band. Still, with almost a decade of bad records collective and solo behind them, there was no reason to expect a thing from this touching reunion. And against all odds the old farts light one up: if you can stand the crunch, you'll find more get-up-and-go on the first side than on any dozen random neogarage EP's. B+

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 8 May 2008 15:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Xgau wrote that after I'd already done a lead review of Done With Mirrors in the Voice. Same review where I said "Walk This Way" and "Lord of the Thighs" were rap songs before rap existed, and could be played back to back with the Beastie Boys' "She's On It." Doug Simmons, the editor, said I couldn't possibly believe that and was just messing with people, but he printed the review anyway. The rest is history.

xhuxk, Thursday, 8 May 2008 15:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

OMG! Steven Tyler in Rehab!

kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 30 May 2008 11:54 (4 years ago) Permalink

"...singer for the blues-rock band."

I thought they were easy listening pop balladeers at this point. the band that did "Combination" and "Sick as a Dog" does not exist

Bill Magill, Friday, 30 May 2008 14:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Thursday, 26 March 2009 15:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

wow awesome clip

i wrote this about the album draw the line for a zine here in MPLS a few years ago lol i got pretty into draw the line for awhile.

Aerosmith – Draw the Line
Label: Columbia
Released: 1977

Okay, let’s cop to it right off: Aerosmith (especially Tyler) have been so lame for so long that at least two generations probably think of them as the rock equivalent of their embarrassing uncle who does his standup routine at family functions. But give me a stack of Bibles and I’ll swear on the memory of any dead man: These jokers were the best American hard rock band of the 1970s, and it’s not close. They really were our Rolling Stones, taking the template and remaking it with American muscle – harder music for a meaner decade. By comparison, the heaviest Stones’ rockers sound quaint compared to Aerosmith’s machine-tuned precision.

I’d always read that Draw the Line was a relative dud by seventies Aerosmith standards, but it’s awesome to my ears. I suspect history might color the band’s memory of the album; it was a proverbial “dark period” for the band, a few members claim to have little memory of recording it in the first place. The Wikipedia entry on the album makes the sessions sound almost comically bleak: “It was recorded in an abandoned convent near New York City, rented out for that purpose. The band lived there while recording the album, doing drugs, sleeping, eating, shooting guns, and driving their sports cars in between recording sessions.”

I remember Kurt Loder once described Led Zeppelin’s “drug-sick dread.” That phrase always stuck with me, and it’s all over Draw the Line. It’s claustrophobic, messy, brutal; the coke and whisky nearly seeps out of its pores. They’ve already lost their edge, and there’s not a song on here that’s a patch on the best of Rocks or Toys in the Attic. But they make up for it with sheer force, weird changes, hammering square pegs into round holes, battering riffs until they fit together, resulting in a record possessed of a powerful, murky quality. “Critical Mass” sounds like a death threat, the rhythm section hurtles along as Joe Perry smears queasy backwards guitar all over the walls. Tyler sounds like scared animal: “Arriving in boats, black hooded coats/ Tormentors climbed into my room/ I crawled under my bed, covered my head/ But they're flushin' me out with a broom.” Elsewhere, on the Perry vocal number “Bright Light Fright,” the guitarists ponders the horror of being wired, awake as the sun comes up, set to a surging three-chord change played with such intensity it could have past for punk if not for the bar band sax solo. “Sight for Sore Eyes” is an electric goosestep, not nearly as far from Gang of Four’s tight-assed funk as history would have you believe.

Hearing Tyler before he turned into a cartoon is still thrilling, so much coked jive, larynx-shredding howls (the last verse of the title track can barely qualify as language, despite what the lyric sheet reads). He’s still got more great senseless one-liners than anyone in rock history (“No dice, baby, I’m livin’ on the astral plane”), but for most of the record he just sounds desperate, circling the drain. By the time we get to the tense, angular vamp of “Get It Up,” even his own dick has abandoned him, the ultimate betrayal for rock’s horniest frontman.

For the most part, it’s the sound of a great band going down swinging. Even in decline, they are hard as diamonds, powered by drummer Joey Kramer and bassist Tom Hamilton, a rhythm section for the ages (it wasn’t by accident that early hip-hop DJs had an affinity for the funkiest white band of the ‘70s). The band dearly wants to escape from the trap its in, so much so that they even retreat into a world of Zeppish, D&D fantasy on the icily grand epic “Kings and Queens” – something they did once and never again.

In the end, they did survive their own stupidity, got clean and got popular again. They probably managed to be better husbands and fathers after all those years of neglect. Maybe they even became decent human beings. But they never made a record like this again.

stank pony (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 26 March 2009 15:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

^^OTM

Hearing Tyler before he turned into a cartoon is still thrilling, so much coked jive, larynx-shredding howls (the last verse of the title track can barely qualify as language, despite what the lyric sheet reads). He’s still got more great senseless one-liners than anyone in rock history (“No dice, baby, I’m livin’ on the astral plane”),

word.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Thursday, 26 March 2009 16:19 (4 years ago) Permalink

that was great, He1go, i've always wanted to sit down w/ their decline/pre-comeback albums and see how good or bad they really were, but now i especially wanna check for that one

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Thursday, 26 March 2009 16:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

Their first four or five records are pretty much must own.

steampig67, Thursday, 26 March 2009 17:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah but i grew up w/ best-ofs in the house so i haven't gotten around to hearing the actual LPs

the worst breed of fong (some dude), Thursday, 26 March 2009 17:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

i've always been curious about done with mirrors. gonna look for that the next time i'm out.

now is the time to winterize your manscape (will), Thursday, 26 March 2009 18:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

So Steven Tyler quits, huh.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 03:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Walkin' on Gucci, wearing Yves Saint Laurent
Better stay on 'cause I'm so goddamn gaunt

?!?!?!

calstars, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 04:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

I finally discovered "Kings and Queens". Holy shit that is a great song.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 11:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

You ok, dude? http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/25/us-tyler-idUSTRE79O7S420111025

The Reverend, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 04:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

being old is gonna suck

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 October 2011 04:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Hello, I'm Jerri Blank."

polyphonic, Thursday, 27 October 2011 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

Aerosmith
Spectrum
Philadelphia, PA
November 25, 1978

1. Psycho theme Intro
2. Toys in the Attic
3. S.O.S (Too Bad)
4. Mama Kin
5. I Wanna Know Why
6. Big Ten Inch Record
7. Sight for Sore Eyes
8. Tyler hit with bottle; Kramer yells at crowd, stage announcements
9. Philadelphia 102FM concert report about incident

tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 19:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

sorry to hear that tyler did the bottle hurt

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, 29 March 2012 19:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

totally. luckily the drummer from aerosmith had my back.

tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

this post from sund4r was OTM:

The 70s stuff, from what I know of it (Greatest Hits and Toys In the Attic + any remaining singles), is great. His voice was fantastic then. It's really tragic what happened to it. It's almost hard to believe he's the same man who sang "Dream On". The song "Toys In the Attic" is great - has this urgent but almost kind of spooky feel. "Walk This Way" actually did something new with the Stooges sound. Agree about "Back In the Saddle" too, also like "Draw the Line". I also like "Rag Doll" and if I'm in a mood to deal with it, "Angel". After that, they truly became one of the worst bands of all time. Nothing can justify "Janie's Got a Gun" or the "Crying"/"Crazy"/"Amazing" trilogy.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 29 March 2012 19:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Revolution X" is a real hoot, I highly recommend getting MAME and emulating the arcade version. At one point Steven Tyler appears on TV and throws you the keys to his car THROUGH THE SCREEN. Not to mention Joe Perry flying over the moon on a rocket-powered guitar.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 29 March 2012 19:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

7 months pass...

weird stuff going on at aerosmith.com -- they've been hacked! by some band?

Look. This was not easy for us to do. Okay, technically, it wasn't too tough. That's not what we mean. It was a tough decision to make as a BAND because we know we're causing you some headaches right now, and we love you guys. But what is an unknown band supposed to do today? How is a band supposed to get noticed?

Do you guys remember what it is like? We hope so. Its hard, and it sucks sometimes, the things you have to do. We fought about doing this. But we're a band, so that just how it goes. You fight it out, every little decision. What you know you're gonna play. When you're gonna play. What you're gonna eat, even when there is no money. Do you remember all the shit that goes on in a band? So we took a vote. We're like a little fucking democracy. We have to be. We're all we've got.

Look we just needed some attention here, that's all. All we wanna do is play & Get our foot in the door. We don't know the business. Yeah, this might suck doing this to you but we kept telling ourselves, if we didn't think Aerosmith would love us, we wouldn't do this. That's the thing. You'll freaking love us. You have to. We're kind of like you. But we're a little scared and a little freaked out and nobody really gets us and our parents are pissed and worried and we cant find a place to play... and we're hungry most of the time but none of that shit really matters cause when we get together and play everything gets better. The world is different. There's light. We all of a sudden get why we are here. It's only when we unplug that things suck. (so we stay plugged in as much as possible.)

So would ya give us a shot? Do you remember being like this? Waiting for your wings? Cramped in a little apartment, living like animals? You did that too. We are doing what we can to survive. We don't wanna beg borrow or steal. But it's getting to that point. We're not just some band. We are GOOD. We fucking rock.

Look, you're gonna love us – we mean that. We don't know what else what to do - we love the blues, we love the Stones we love the Beatles - we're old school. We know you've got a new record coming out. We want that feeling. We want to have a record coming out. "A New Record" how fucking cool is that? And we will. Maybe because of how you might react to us. But we don't know. This is just our shot to get your attention, do we have your attention?

Listen. promise to meet us, hear us, see us, we will expose ourselves to you and the world, have us arrested if you want to, we don't care about that – just hear us. Just give us when and wgere with 2 days notice and we'll be there.

This is our life..... the music, the pain, the love and the death and blood and the sweat - this is rock and roll - this is our fucking life - do you remember? Do you get us? Can you help us? Just a little bit? Sorry for this hassle - we do love you - always know that

tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2012 17:45 (6 months ago) Permalink

RT @joeykramer: Not sure. @LegendaryChild_: @IamStevenT @THaerosmith @joeykramer @JoePerry wtf is goin' on with the Aerosmith website?

tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2012 17:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

this should be interesting!

sleeve, Monday, 29 October 2012 17:49 (6 months ago) Permalink

i enjoy that the members of aerosmith are working this out via twitter.

tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2012 17:53 (6 months ago) Permalink

Old dudes are really stretching for viral marketing ideas aren't they. I almost bought it until that tweet, kinda pushed it over the edge, what with the new album out on Tuesday and all.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 November 2012 02:49 (6 months ago) Permalink

Allston ROCKS
Aerosmith Announce Location For Monday's Show - 1325 Commonwealth Avenue In Allston
The band, actually from New Hampshire, moved to Boston in the early 70’s and lived together in an apartment at 1325 Commonwealth Avenue for a few years until they were signed by Columbia records.

tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:49 (6 months ago) Permalink

That is kind of awesome.

Trip Maker, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

they should just do a world tour of shitty apartment buildings. there's yr viral marketing!

tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2012 17:52 (6 months ago) Permalink

livestream of them right now http://bostinno.com/2012/11/05/livestream-aerosmith-concert-boston/#ss__254582_1_0__ss

apparently they've so far only played songs from the first record; they sound kinda great

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:54 (6 months ago) Permalink

welp they ruined that with a new song but now it's fucking "back in the saddle"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 5 November 2012 18:00 (6 months ago) Permalink

Infinite Jest memories made me read "Allston rocks" as "Allston rules"

they say they gon' mod me, see me never do shit (some dude), Monday, 5 November 2012 18:05 (6 months ago) Permalink

No mention of / love for Rock In A Hard Place? I know, neither Perry nor Whitford are on it and it's kind of anomalous, but Lightnin' Strikes is a standout on a pretty strong album. Whatever happened to Jimmy Crespo?

The original run of 'Smith albums are all classic, right up to and including Night In The Ruts, and Rocks is one of the all-time great headphone albums by anyone ever. Of the latter-day albums I can only stomach the first two, Done With Mirrors and Permanent Vacation. Pump and everything since is horrible and I wish they'd stop already. Get Your Wings is awesome for three reasons: one, the production style is unique among their records (there's an openness and a clarity that was lost beginning with the dense production style of Attic); two, Seasons Of Wither; and three, the original "batwing" logo.

Joe Perry's 2nd solo effort, I've Got The Rock And Rolls Again, is killer too. I actually prefer his version of Let The Music Do The Talking.

Tyler is (used to be) one of the great rock vocalists who can't actually sing very well. Sorta like David Lee Roth. It's all about attitude, humour, and delivery with those guys.

Doctor Flange, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 13:53 (6 months ago) Permalink

I've Got the Rock'n'Rolls Again is worthy of The worst Rolling Stones solo album title

ICY BRO (SPECIAL GUEST) (some dude), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 14:40 (6 months ago) Permalink

Granted it's a dumb-ass album title, but it's a good listen.

Doctor Flange, Friday, 9 November 2012 04:14 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

Aerosmith and it's members have made some questionable career moves in the past decade, but this freaking moustache on Joe Perry has to be the nadir of their whole career. He's look better with a Hitler stache.

earlnash, Saturday, 2 February 2013 16:19 (3 months ago) Permalink

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 February 2013 16:42 (3 months ago) Permalink

Underrated Aerosmith photos I cringed at looking at.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 2 February 2013 17:27 (3 months ago) Permalink

Joe Perry is trolling the world so hard in that pic

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 2 February 2013 18:55 (3 months ago) Permalink

got an email yesterday:
STEVEN TYLER’S ENTERTAINMENT ATTORNEY DINA LAPOLT WINS A SIGNIFICANT VICTORY IN LAWSUIT FILED BY HIS EX-MANAGER
congrats

tylerw, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:13 (3 months ago) Permalink

He's look better with a Hitler stache.

It's kind of an implied Hitler 'stache, really.

Uncle Sam is... ...No Daddy! (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:02 (3 months ago) Permalink

It's a reverse Hitler stash, like a photo negative, because he wants to make a statement that he is anti-Hitler.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 February 2013 13:37 (3 months ago) Permalink

STEVEN TYLER has gone from breaking the law, to making the law with his new proposed Senate bill.

Hawaii Senate Bill 465, also known as the Steven Tyler Act, would create a civil cause of action for “constructive invasion of privacy” in the state of Hawaii. Tyler initiated--and is a proponent and vocal supporter of--the bill and will appear with fellow Hawaii resident Mick Fleetwood on Friday, February 8 as the bill is presented in a Senate hearing at the State Capitol in Honolulu, Hawaii. At this writing, the bill is being endorsed by 2/3 of the Senate.

The proposed bill (SB465) was modeled after the California Civil Code Section 1708.8, which was adopted by the California state legislature in 1998. SB465 would add a cause of action for constructive invasion of privacy in addition to the current cause of action for physical invasion of privacy in Hawaii. In the simplest terms, the proposed bill would provide a legal remedy for celebrities photographed while they are engaged in “personal or familial activity” and have a reasonable expectation of privacy. This new law would go beyond the more traditional invasion of privacy, which generally requires a physical trespass, by imposing liability on people who use zoom telephonic lenses or other high tech audio devices to capture images or audio of public figures as they are in their homes, or other private places, and then turn around and sell those images or audio files.

The ideals of the proposed bill, SB465, are already enshrined in the constitution of the State of Hawaii. Article 1, Section 6 grants the people the right of privacy, not to be infringed without a “compelling state interest.” Article 1, Section 7 goes further stating the “right of the people to be secure in their persons…against invasions of privacy shall not be violated.”

“The paradise of Hawaii is a magnet for celebrities who just want a peaceful vacation,” TYLER says. “As a person in the public eye, I know the paparazzi are there and we have to accept that. But when they intrude into our private space, disregard our safety and the safety of others, that crosses a serious line that shouldn't be ignored.”

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 February 2013 14:37 (3 months ago) Permalink

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 8 February 2013 15:30 (3 months ago) Permalink


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