animal collective

yeah talk about hedging your bets

this band has always been an easy target for assholes.

not really interested in them condensing their sound further into a pop format, and i can see how that experiment might be a failure, but this quietus writer was free to describe that failure in a way that wasn't self-righteous and condescending

i don't think centipede hz or any solo panda bear release has been about "bouncing around in neverland", really, so maybe my issue is with this guys' premise that the band has never expanded its thematic palette through the years

just read the pitchfork review. liked it. seemed like a much more thoughtful critique

I've always had a problem with the strawmanny accusation that AC are all about being childlike/infantile/faux-naif, or at least I never used to get that vibe from them. The earlier stuff was more about deconstructing things like folk music into a kind of pre-formalised primitivism. increasingly though, the 'childlike/neverland' stuff is becoming harder to eschew though. I still think it's a bit unfair but AC certainly don't seem to be interested in proving those people wrong.

these guys are probably really going to embarrass their kids when they get older haha

The last two solo records by Panda Bear and Avey Tare were both really preoccupied with death and disease and loss. Centipede Hz was pretty intense & dark, too. This is the first thing they've done that's up all the time. and yea xp doglatin it always bugs me when people dismiss the AC as goofy or immature... most of their records are pretty somber and melancholic, haunted... Henry Darger, not Alice in Wonderland...

AC has always been about moving forward. I don't know why a longtime fan would be disappointed that they tried something new and made a record without playing it live first.

just picked up Here Comes the Indian, and I love it, as does my cat. I swear, when is the damn hype machine gonna catch up: NYC isn't no wave, it's NEW AGE!

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, July 31, 2003

there is some gold on this thread. gotta revisit HCTI soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW5-bz3JQcE

Reviews are wrong. This is the best thing to come out of America since the polio vaccine.

:D

I don't know why a longtime fan would be disappointed that they tried something new and made a record without playing it live first.

it just made me lose interest in their live show, not the records

2009 and 2013 were the only years they didn't tour an album or two ahead. and tbf, there were still a lot of surprises in the way they re-arranged old songs to fit the MPP and Centipede style.

the 2013 show was v. good. father time was way better live iirc

listening to this right now on moka's recommendation

xp Yeah! I saw their re-scheduled show in DC on December 1, 2013. Father Time finally clicked. The Live at 9:30 album is great, too. The Centipede show really benefits from soundboard mixes. I remember listening to an audience boot of the first Centipede show in April 2011 and thought they had lost it. Just a total mess. After one full listen, I think the new one is much better than Centipede.

I think it's as good as Centipede, but those albums are trying to do two completely different things

this album is very short

only two minutes shorter than strawberry jam

i lost track of this band years ago but if i love Floridada should i check out the rest of it? i assume so but i am bored and this blank box was in front of me.

yes! hocus pocus is even better

it's definitely an improvement over centipede hz & all the solo albums after MPP, but it's still a step below their peak. the backlash feels disproportionate but i guess for anyone who wasn't sold on them years ago or has since tired of their sound this would be very easy to hate.

the burglars is thrilling, definitely my favourite on this.

quietus review leads like a long bout of clinical projection. dude might need to see someone about that

They played Alvin Row for the first time ever last night.

Which songs are Panda Bear's? So far I have:
Hocus
Bagels
Golden Gal

Bagels and Golden Gal are definitely Avey songs from what they've said in interviews, but it's harder to tell here because there's even more vocal interplay than usual

Oh wow!

Trying hard not to make the Lennon McCartney comparison because that's already been suggested right?

I think it works. Panda = Lennon, Avey = McCartney. At least lyrically. Avey's songs have a lot of rich imagery and characters, while Panda's are pretty straightforward internal/emotional.

Hmm. I was thinking the opposite actually. Panda seems to emphasize melody and Avey the performance. But I really don't know the band all that well so.

Musically it's vice versa, but it's not as clear cut as their lyrics.

"Bros" is a "How Do You Sleep?"-level dig at the rest of AC for their reaction to Panda moving to Portugal.

This is pretty good. Better than the Panda Bear solo by a good mile or so. Not sure what the reviewers are listening to ... without the Animal Collective name they'd probably be calling it "brilliant weirdo avant pop".

So, whatcha think about it Treeship?

Animal Collective's peak critical / cool period was 2004-2009, right? ie. about a decade ago? You are never as uncool as you are 10 years after your peak. They're approaching their cool trough.

I'd been hearing this phenomenally irritating faux-jaunty song for the past week or so, had been assuming it was a side-project by some dreadful arse-end Britpop band, looked it up and was actually quite satisfied to discover it was 'Floridada' by Animal Collective.

Doing a bit of writing on japanese genre-cinema, now I can't stop humming 'shomin shomin shomin shomin shomin-geki. shomin-GEKI, shomin-GEKI' It really is quite catchy.

lol wtf @ the quietus http://i.imgur.com/0KFi7iN.png

What do we think of the single ?

haha i think it's a right of passage to hate this band at some point

What do we think of the single ?

― calstars, Friday, March 25, 2016 6:14 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Grip Gnop" (Avey) is great, should've been on the album, might've gotten cut because it's sort of similar to "Floridada." The b-side "Hounds of Bairro" (Panda) is a b-side for a reason. I think it's a holdover from PBVSGR.

*Gnip Gnop

this is so squelchy

#squelchiestnewmusic

So, whatcha think about it Treeship?

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, February 22, 2016 11:05 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sorry for the delay. this is rad. i don't like the title or album art but the actual songs are just awesome

Deakin, folks

Sleep Cycle is quite nice, much better than the last two AC albums

glad i finally got to hear "Loch Raven" and "Bees" live tonight. really good show. glad i'm seeing them again in November- they played about 3/4 of the new LP but not "Recycling," probably my favorite of all the PB vox-hocketing songs...

gnip gnop
lying in the grass
spilling guts
on delay
the burglars
vertical
daily routine
jimmy mack (cover)
alvin row
summing the wretch
floridada
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bees
loch raven
golden gal

gnip gnop was a great opener. alvin row has always been a white whale for ac fans and the fact that they've been playing it at every show this year is neat but it's only one part of the 12-minute suite, the "dear alvin" section toward the end. loch raven and bees were so beautiful. lying in the grass and on delay stood out among the new songs that hadn't already clicked for me. i thought spilling guts and summing the wretch were different songs. floridada is the new peacebone as far as crowds are concerned. love the way avey slurs the chorus live. the cover was whatever i would've rather heard another song from painting with. daily routine, i feel like i've seen them play that at 4 of the 6 shows i've gone to, great song nonetheless... if i lived in DC i would double dip and go again tmrw...

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