NYC'ers: Favorite Long Gone Record Shops

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1. Free Being : 2nd Avenue between St.Mark's and 7th Street: Right next to the timeless Gem Spa, Free Being -- dubbed "Defwreckastow" by some friends of mine (because it was a record store in which you'd easily go deaf due to the high volume assualt), Free Being was a gloriously shambollic, messy, loud place, but lots of fun.

2. 99: I believe it moved once or twice from the East Village to the West, but I remember it being on MacDougal Street, specializing almost exclusively in hardcore 7"s.

3. Venus Records - Not the St.Mark's incarnation, but the original West 8th Street spot, one flight up across the street from Hendrix's Electric Ladyland. Great presentation, amazing selection, knoledgable gang behind the counter -- it all went to shit when they moved.

4. It's Only Rock'n'Roll - The pride of West 8th Street, more a museum than simply a record shop. Though it leaned heavily towards metal and classic rock, it was a marvelous trove.

Some of yours....?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 02:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Postermat's no longer around, right?

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 5 April 2003 02:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

(that's not a record store, but it was pretty great for "rock 'n' roll accessories")

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 5 April 2003 02:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah, I miss Postermat. Yeah, it's gone....the space now occupied by a store that sells cheap-o military textile knock-offs. Probably doing very well these days, I reckon.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 02:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Another "rock accessories" place -- anyone remember the heavy metal spot, C.C. & Star, also on MacDougal Street?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 02:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Vinyl Solution, on Second Avenue next to the diner (that's now an upscale restaurant) where Binibon used to be. The original Bleecker Bob's, on MacDougal Street, which stocked all the British punk stuff and was the very first place in lower Manhattan to carry reggae 12" singles. And the place where Bob got his moniker, Village Oldies--or was it House of Oldies? Both existed, but I'm blanking on which was which--anyway, the place upstairs next to the Bitter End where Lenny Kaye used to work. All those places were hugely influential on the music scenes of their day. And then the two stores in subway stations: the big Latin one in Times Square, and Downstairs Records at, what, 50th Street?--which was a last, lingering survival of the living '50s doo-wop scene (it lasted at least into the '80s, after an above-ground move). There were amazing hole-in-the-wall places along 125th Street, of course, but I was too white to go there very often. Oh, and Discophile, on Eighth Street near Sixth, long the only place where you could get British imports--the only place in NYC where you could buy Syd Barrett! Oh, and 99 was also a record label: ESG, Liquid Liquid, Glenn Branca, Y-Pants. Not just hardcore!

Methuselah, Saturday, 5 April 2003 03:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Now that's what I'm talkin' bout. Outstanding!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 04:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

What was the place on Sullivan Street with all the punk and new wave posters in the window, cassettes behind locked plexiglass -- I bought SO MUCH vinyl there in my gothy youth. Factory, 4AD, + obscure shit. And POSTERS! (sheds a tear)

But what was the name of this place?!

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 5 April 2003 07:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

Second Coming

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 08:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

....now a Mexican restaurant.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 08:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

There was also a shop around the corner from Bleecker Bob's (which I would shop at occasionally because Craig from God Is My Co-Pilot worked there; Bob is a beast) on MacDougal or maybe Sullivan where pencil-thin blonde psychedelic groupie girl who went out with Robyn Hitchcock worked, she looked like long-haired blonde Muppet chick. What was that shop? Was THAT Second Coming?

Sounds on St Mark's, when it was on the south side of the street.

Are Record Runner and Rebel Rebel still there? When I was a SPINtern my job was to go out on Friday and buy the British papers and style mags, then come back and (not my job, strictly) swat Bob Jr. with rolled-up copy of NME.

suzy (suzy), Saturday, 5 April 2003 08:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

The bald gent from God is My Co-Pilot did indeed work at Bleeker Bob's, as did noted rock-journo-turned-junkie-turned-successful-deejay Kris Needs. Second Coming was one block to the East, yes.

Record Runner and Rebel Rebel are both still there. The former isn't doing quite as well as the latter.

I interned at SPIN in the summer of `89, Suzy...when did you?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 09:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think we must have just missed each other, Alex. I started in the beginning of '88 and stayed about six months. However you might know one of my classmates, Sheryl F@rber, who worked for Legs (who I adored; codgers always like girls who sass back) and wound up going out with the guy who founded Film Threat. Beyond the listing on my CV, I don't think it taught me much apart from an impatience with nepotistes. But MY GOD did it scare the NME boyz when I came over: they were all like 'ooh, she worked at Spin...'

Bob Jr: template for James 'Loaded' Brown.

suzy (suzy), Saturday, 5 April 2003 10:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

I started in mid-summer `89 and stuck around until about Christmas of the same year. I worked primarily with Robyn Rheinhardt, Brent Butterworth, Legs McNeil, Christian Wright, Joe Levy and Karen Schoemer (none of whom remain there today, obviously). Yeah, Legs was hilarious, but could often be wildly unreasonable. Bob Jr., meanwhile, was pretty much a full-time jackass.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 10:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Smash on St. Mark's place is still there, but up until 2001 when they got busted and shut down for a few days, they kept the sidewalks totally jammed with crates of used CDs that always yielded gold, and one weekend a month they'd make them like a buck rather than four just to make room for more used stock. Some days it was like a feeding frenzy and I'd get like 20 or 30 one-dollar discs, all seemingly like sold by a rock critic (who was maybe robbed?), dollar stuff like all new Estrus or In the Red releases, good indepenedent hip-hop, I got the whole Jerry Lee Lewis 6cd box as separate 99 cent Cds, there were even weird experimental discs in there like Igor Wakhevich sets. For less-hyped-but-good used new release discs, that was the place for sure to nab 'em.

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Saturday, 5 April 2003 14:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Pier Platters, which made the trip to Hoboken not just worthwhile but a necessity. The guy who ran it still occasionally unloads some of the store's stuff at WFMU record fairs.

Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 5 April 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Downtown Records. They moved once (to 26th, west of 6th Ave, up some stairs, stuck in amongst the the flower shops and garden stores) and now they've moved again but I don't know where to. Theyhad an everything goes approach to dance music, stocking hip hop promos, hooj choons, all the difft nervous labels, tons of old test pressings and random used tracks, new stock every week though, the people who ran it were knowledgable old house-heads (as in something would come on and they'd be like "that's HOT! i like that one!"). I loved that place, I'd spend 2 hour lunch breaks there and not buy anything!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 5 April 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

what was the place west of Postermat on 8th St, upstairs? or is that still there?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 5 April 2003 17:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's Venus.

suzy (suzy), Saturday, 5 April 2003 17:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Along with Venus, there's also Revolution, which is still there....but in a tragic state of gradual erosion.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 18:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

what about Adult Crash?? every time i see one of my old Xpressway singles and see the old price tags I get nostagic. They sold Prick Decay tapes there. How cool was that? I hate Etherea, mostly for taking its place.

Also, as a last stop kinda place, the recently closed place on Orchard...what was it? sort of an indie / emo type place. Fuck, what was the name? Oh yeah, Sound and Fury. That one was ok.

Gimme Gimme still rules. Do yall know that one?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 5 April 2003 19:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

This thread is making me sick with nostalgia. Thank you, Methuselah for mentioning the record store in the Times Square subway, I used to waste so much time in that place. And I used to always spend my lunchbreaks playing records at Downstairs when I worked in Midtown. When I was a teenager, I mailed away to Discophile for all my late glam and punk imports. I would hound the poor mail order guy to tell me all about the latest NY bands. Some asshole at my high school stole my copy of "Anarchy in the UK" and he was kind enough to send me another one. Other record store employees I really liked: part-time Dolls member Peter Jordan of Bleecker Bob's and Pavement bassist Mark Ibold of Free Being.

99 was also a boutique. This English girl named Gina split off from Manic Panic and Tish & Snooky and hooked up with the Ed and Bill Bahlman to start 99. She handled the clothes. I mainly remember buying British imports there. It was the hippest store in NY when I moved there in the fall of '79. And a fun place to hang out. It's where I got Metal Box and Cut.

Then there are the stores I can't remember the names of. What was the super-indie store from the mid-90s on Ave. A between 4th and 5th? Was that Adult Crash, Roger? And what was the little shithole on Ave A just north of St. Mark's Pl. that was run by an obnoxious old punk rocker? I think he was more of a heroin dealer than a record store owner, but he had lots of great old singles. How about the sort of jazzy/post-punk place just off the Bowery on maybe 5th or 6th Street? And there was another mid-90s super-indie store on 6th Avenue and Houston. They seemed very big on Teenbeat.

And can anyone tell me if Midnight Records on 23rd Street is still around? Or Finyl Vinyl on, I think, 6th St. between 2nd & 3rd? Rocket Scientist closed, right? Too bad, I liked the people at that store. There was a used store called Brigade on Houston that was run by these Russian guys who would give me a couple of dollars for every used CD I brought in, no matter what it was. I used to bring in all these CDs that were up for grabs in the hallways of Sony when I temped there and bring them in and make a bundle.

Arthur (Arthur), Saturday, 5 April 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

What was the super-indie store from the mid-90s on Ave. A between 4th and 5th?

Adult Crash

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Midnight Records is indeed still around, but it operates on its own bizarre schedule.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha how/why are you guys complaining about past record shops when you have Other Music, which is still open.

JP Albin (John Paul Albin), Saturday, 5 April 2003 23:59 (twenty-one years ago) link

I remember all those places, Arthur, but the names escape me, too. I also can't remember the name of the used record & book store on Seventh between First and A, which I was shocked to discover had recently vanished (I don't live in the city anymore). They had a turntable, comfortable chairs, and they always had stacks of the kind of old records you can't find anywhere else--African pressings from the '60s, say, or black militant standup comedy, or Japanese dub. And they were pretty cheap. Before real estate metastasized there were great secondhand stores everywhere, including the big barnlike place on Broadway just below Astor Place where I dumped all the hippie records I had that sounded ridiculous after punk happened (that I can't remember what any of them were must mean I was right).

Methuselah (Methuselah), Sunday, 6 April 2003 00:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Rocket Scientist closed? I have an extraordinary amount of nostalgia for Village record shops, not having been there for years now, but I never know the names. It's more "that place you have to walk up to, which is next to the falafel place, and has the CD cases arranged like so." There's one place just off 7th Ave, about a mile south of 8th St. That's too vague of a description, but I remember very distinctly finding several Chi-Lites records there and feeling euphoric playing them all in a row in my friend's apartment on the Upper W. Side.

I'm getting pictures of several dozen stores, only three of four or which can I name. I really need to get back to NY.

Amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 6 April 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

There used to be quite a few wholesalers on 8th ave around 42-49th street where you could get most of the Sugerhill and "Z" releases on 12" 45's for around $1.00 at least until 82.

Village Oldies had its moments, and rare ORK releases until it closed.

No one should ever forget the Rat Cage, which was under 171 Avenue A.

Good riddance to indie dorks at Sound and Fury.

V

V (1411), Sunday, 6 April 2003 00:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Rockit Science on Carmine Street is still there. I was there yesterday, for chrissakes.

Other Music = SOOOO overrated and SOOOOO elitist.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 6 April 2003 15:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Other Music = SOOOO overrated

Their selection's not that great... they stock an impressive number of genres but they don't have nearly enough room to fill those bins with comprehensive discographies. I never find what I want there; I almost always find what I'm looking for at Kim's.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 6 April 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

They do have a lot of Hawkwind for some reason.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 6 April 2003 18:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Other Music = SOOOO overrated and SOOOOO elitist.

not to mention SOOOO overpriced

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 6 April 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's nothin' compared to Halcyon! You too can buy a breaks record for $25!!

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 6 April 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

plus, Other Music closes at 8pm on weekend nights. What kinda shit is that?? Kims rules because sometimes you'll be getting out of a show and that shit is still open on your way back to the subway. Kims (Mondo) is my favorite.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Adult Crash is now Etherea, run by my friend Rich.

Mary (Mary), Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Wowsville - C/D? Their display window is always fabulous but I think their stuff's overpriced considering you can so easily order the same killed-by-death-and-exhumed-by-reissue punk recs on the interweb.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 6 April 2003 20:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

A friend of mine desperately tried to buy the Roberta Bayley Ramones first album print (that formerly hung in Lakeside Lounge) from the bespectackled spaniard the runs Wowsville, but he wouldn't budge.

Nice t-shirt selection there, though.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 6 April 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

as a former manager at mondo kim's, i gotta say that the good stuff sells out fast and you're basically left with a big bin of last year's IDM records and identical reggae reissues.

good used selection though. a pretty comprehensive selection of vinyl, lots of good used CDs, and most of the people who work there are pretty nice. i couldn't handle it though. having my life threatened by some crackhead with a bag full of stolen DVD box sets from the Wiz is not my idea of gainful employment.

halcyon now and again has some good stuff, it's around the corner from my place so what can you do. except not pay $3.50 for a fucking cup of coffee there! i found the klein+MBO album there at a sidewalk sale for 50 cents once (unbelievable that they didn't know what it was...), as well as the first american music club LP, a current 93 album and some other valuable jawns.

mosurock (mosurock), Sunday, 6 April 2003 22:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

99 Records thirded - I only went there once or twice in its waning days, but scored a bunch of my Rough Trade collection there. And I too grieve for Pier Platters, really more than any other defunct record store in the NYC area.

Re interning for Spin - I had the misfortune of calling for an internship at the exact moment it almost went out of business in the late '80s. I got told off by Roberta Bayley on the phone. Too bad I had no idea who she was at the time.

mike a (mike a), Sunday, 6 April 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Downtown Records. They moved once (to 26th, west of 6th Ave, up some stairs, stuck in amongst the the flower shops and garden stores) and now they've moved again but I don't know where to."

Completely. My womb, my home. A cokehead named Albert took behind the counter there and gave me my first lessons in Jimmy Castor, electro, all of it. 83-85 esp. Golly wolly.

J&R Music World and Bondy's, both by City Hall when they had healthy 12-inch single sections. Especially J&R, the back room on the second floor.

99 was a great label but the store employees always gave me attitude (an dit was tiny!), like motherfucking Bleecker Bob's, still the standard for terrible record stores: stock all banged up, being sold by the rudest human beings imaginable.

Sasha Frere-Jones (Sasha Frere-Jones), Monday, 7 April 2003 03:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I second Sasha's Bleeker experience. What assholes. That whole area though - Second Coming, Generation, Bleeker Bob's - always seemed pretty metal to me. Scored Lamb of God and Sunn0)) stuff there, but rarely made the trip unless I needed something from Fat Beats or Grays Papaya.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 7 April 2003 03:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Generation has very rockin' used CD's downstairs. You can look in oddball sections and come up with some cheap gold (good industrial and black metal especially). Aside from the now-closed Sound & Fury, Generation is the only Village store that really ventures out to get great underground thrash/screamo/punk, and usually also gets a lot of new metal stuff you won't see in other stores, though flipping thru' em can be a daunting experience.

Brian Turner (btwfmu), Monday, 7 April 2003 03:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Good riddance to indie dorks at Sound and Fury.

Thank you, you're very sweet.

die9o (dhadis), Monday, 7 April 2003 12:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

C.C. & Star on MacDougal Street was mentioned in a post here and I was wondering if anyone remembered the address, or maybe the nearest cross street? My cousin always talks about this place and remembers buying stuff there years ago. Thanks!

danm, Saturday, 31 December 2016 01:34 (seven years ago) link

Another old time New York question: 1980 - 1981, small record store on (I think) the west side of 3rd Ave., south of 23rd St. New & used imports and bootlegs. Does anybody remember the name? It might have begun with a "W".

According to my insane spreadsheet of everything record I ever bought, on August 4, 1980, I bought Derek & Clive "Ad Nauseum," "The Secret Policeman's Ball - The Music," the Beatles Christmas Album and a couple of Pink Floyd and Who bootlegs.

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 1 January 2017 05:33 (seven years ago) link


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