1.) still exist as a "sound system," right?
2.) have a great "new" single: "Sound of the Joe" ("dance to the tune of economical decline"); hear it at http://www.bad.co.uk/
3.) were "way ahead of" Fat Boy Slim, the Streets, Beck, electroclash, Basement Jaxx, etc...
4.) released terrible or inferior songs as singles ("C'Mon Every Beatbox," "The Globe") while leaving their best tracks ("Hip, Neck & Thigh," "Around the Girl in 80 Ways") off "best of" collections...
5.) are better than you think, especially if you're a Clash fan...
6.) are worthy of rediscovery
7.) deserve a compilation something like this:
Start / Rewind / All Mink & No Manners (4)Sony (1)Beyond the Pale (2)Union Jack (4)Sambadrome (2)Innocent Child (5)Harrow Road (6)Dragon Town (4)Limbo The Law (2)Champagne (3)Around The Girl In 80 Ways (4)Hip, Neck & Thigh (3)James Brown (4)Just Play Music! (3)I Turned Out A Punk [edit out coda] (7)Medicine Show (1)Over The Rise (6)Singapore (7)The Bottom Line (1)
1. This is Big Audio Dynamite2. No. 10 Upping St.3. Tighten Up Vol. '884. Megatop Phoenix5. The Globe6. Higher Power7. F-Punk
Other threads:B.A,D - C.L.A.S.S.I.C. or D.U.D.big audio dynamite - S&D, C or D?
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 4 April 2003 16:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 4 April 2003 16:32 (twenty years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Friday, 4 April 2003 16:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Brian Dillon (Brian Dillon), Friday, 4 April 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 4 April 2003 18:44 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 4 April 2003 18:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 4 April 2003 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:10 (twenty years ago) link
What was their other big hit from that year?
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:13 (twenty years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 4 April 2003 20:53 (twenty years ago) link
Umm...it's called "Rush," by the way.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 April 2003 21:03 (twenty years ago) link
Heh. I thought the same. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 April 2003 21:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 4 April 2003 21:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 4 April 2003 21:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:06 (twenty years ago) link
Actually, that's not fair. The songs you mentioned are among their best, but I really don't get why those are good and others around the same time are BAD in your opinion. Except Texarkana, which would imply your problem with REM is that they're not the Moody Blues.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:10 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:11 (twenty years ago) link
Are there any creditable conspiracy theories that can explain this? Do any of them maybe involve the rise of REM, who were always just kinda irritating?
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Sam J. (samjeff), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Gatinha (rwillmsen), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 4 April 2003 23:45 (twenty years ago) link
oops, wait, i had to skip "king of comedy"... uh, what's this next... not too great... "star 69" sux... uh, gotta skip from the first buckian "backandforthbackandforth" plucking of "strange frequencies"... wish i had a remote... "bang and blame"... i wish i didn't automatically picture mike mills when i hear his basslines... "I Took Your Name"! There's that awesome, rubbery reverb sound again! Rules! but this song isn't as good as the first two... i wish I had just tapes full of peter buck practicing various glammy, metallic "monster" guitar lines in the studio... I'm skipping ahead... "Let Me In," forget it... "Circus Envy" sounds cool, but I'm bored with this... "You" has a nice riff.
OK - the first two songs on "Monster" are TOTALLY, TOTALLY bitchin'.
― Sam J. (samjeff), Saturday, 5 April 2003 01:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 April 2003 01:54 (twenty years ago) link
I claim you can almost make a mini-LP of the greatest hits of B.A.D. that's actually, you know, good.
Go!
I'll supply you with some photo inspiration:
http://www.venus.dti.ne.jp/~lard/artgif/bad.gif
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 05:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 January 2005 05:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 January 2005 05:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 24 January 2005 05:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 24 January 2005 06:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 07:09 (nineteen years ago) link
either way, "Around The Girl In 80 Ways" is possibly the worst song title ever conceived, much less USED on an album.
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 07:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 24 January 2005 07:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 07:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 24 January 2005 08:07 (nineteen years ago) link
― donut christ (donut), Monday, 24 January 2005 08:27 (nineteen years ago) link
The Globe album is kind of a 7" radio edit of the acid house 12" that is the Kool-Aid album, while you're hunting.
― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 24 January 2005 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes you're right about that, Kit. I figured that out later, but didn't think it worth mentioning. In retrospect it sure doesn't seem that way in my memory that I skipped two whole albums of theirs. Odd.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 24 January 2005 08:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Digging through some old cassettes I rediscovered the promo-only "Rare and BAD," which includes the above-mentioned "In Full Effect." Fun collection - anyone know if this was ever released on CD?
1. "CONTACT" (12" remix) - Never commercially available in U.S.; 2. "BEAT BOXES AT DAWN" - 12" B-side (cut out of catalogue); 3. "E = MC2" (Extended Mix) -12" B-side (cut out of catalogue); 4. "MEDICINE SHOW" (London Mix) - 12" B-side (cut out of catalogue); 5. "IN FULL EFFECT"- Never commercially available in U.S.; 6. "CONTACT" (Club Mix)-Never commercially available in U.S.; 7. "B.A.D. OVERTURE" - Never released in the U.S.; 8. "JAMES BROWN" (Remix) - Never commercially available in U.S.; & 9. "IF I WERE JOHN CARPENTER" - Never commercially available in U.S. (
― Dan Peterson, Monday, 28 January 2008 20:02 (sixteen years ago) link
All I want is "If I were John Carpenter".
― Mackro Mackro, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
You could probably make a good-to-great album out of their best stuff. But I mostly remember them as a depressing indication of how much Jones needed Strummer. Cut The Crap was a far more depressing indication of how much Strummer needed Jones.
― Formerly Painful Dentistry, Monday, 28 January 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link
But I mostly remember them as a depressing indication of how much Jones needed Strummer.
You must have loved their second album, then!
dear donut
― energy flash gordon, Sunday, 23 March 2008 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link
i remember liking the first record when it came out and everything sucking after that
― gershy, Sunday, 23 March 2008 06:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Following me reviving this thread a few weeks ago, I ended up with a FLAC version of the unreleased album, 'Entering A New Ride', which I had but in scrappy lo-fi mp3 form.All cliches aside, it's a massive return to form if you like the BAD thing.
― mark e, Saturday, 29 May 2021 20:55 (two years ago) link
I hadn't heard it before, and am definitely enjoying it - some shades of later Carbon/Silicon tracks in there, too.
― vcrash, Monday, 31 May 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link
Hey where can a brother get a copy of the unreleased BAD album? They are hugely underappreciated.
N.B. a new cleaner mix has recently been discovered of Rat Patrol at Fort Brag (only one G apparently) and it is great. I love Joe of course but Mick gets so much undeserved criticism.
― stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Monday, 31 May 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link
broom air : the old semi official fan website provides all the information you need.
― mark e, Monday, 31 May 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
Thanks, Mark -- especially if you're also the Mark who cleaned up that Rat Patrol on the Clash site.
― stop torturing me ethel (broom air), Tuesday, 1 June 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link
did you find relevant page? i meant to post a link.and no, sorry, i am not that mark.
― mark e, Tuesday, 1 June 2021 08:19 (two years ago) link
Really feeling “C’mon Every Beatbox” right now.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 October 2021 02:25 (two years ago) link
The rose garden is already littered with my victims.
― Double Chocula (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 16 October 2021 04:15 (two years ago) link
The promoter didn't book no undertaker
― Vast Halo, Saturday, 16 October 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link
looks like the semi-unoffical website with links to the 2cd zip of 'entering .. ' has been taken offline.
should anyone still be interested then my ilX email is still good to go.
― mark e, Thursday, 13 January 2022 22:36 (two years ago) link
The Planet B.A.D. compilation is pretty enjoyable. Could be better - it kind of falls apart before the end, and I would have preferred the full-length album tracks for the wonderfully strange bits that were chopped out of the singles - but if you take the best moments and put them together, it does feel like a good extension of what the Clash accomplished on Combat Rock. Not on par but it does get to places they hadn't reached yet.
Tweaking the tracklist to my tastes, I would've been good with:
1. The Bottom Line2. E=MC²3. Medicine Show4. C'mon Every Beatbox5. Beyond the Pale6. V. Thirteen7. Sightsee M.C!8. Just Play Music!9. Other 9910. Union, Jack11. Contact12. House Arrest13. Free14. Rush15. Can't Wait/Live16. The Globe
― birdistheword, Saturday, 26 March 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link
imho : BAD were one of the few bands of that era who were actually all about the album as opposed to single tracks.hence i dont have any of the comps.
― mark e, Saturday, 26 March 2022 20:33 (two years ago) link
I like "Free" though - it's nice having that on a compilation instead of hunting down the Flashback soundtrack. (Prescient sample: "Once we get out of the '80s, the '90s are gonna make the '60s look like the '50s.")
― birdistheword, Saturday, 26 March 2022 20:46 (two years ago) link
bugger.i guess i need to track that song down then.i.e. i had no idea there were non-album tracks out there on soundtracks etc ..
― mark e, Saturday, 26 March 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link
It’s a fun movie - if you’re bothering to track down the song, might as well watch the flick first to hear it in situ.
― beepy fridges (sic), Sunday, 27 March 2022 00:21 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh4b4c-RzE8
― Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 5 May 2022 20:40 (one year ago) link
I loved BAD. Was fortunate enough to see them once at a small venue in Denver in 1987. Along with the Mescaleros, they successfully continued some of the experimentation begun in the Clash. Mick's almost complete lack of productivity in the past couple of decades is kind of baffling.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 6 May 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link
not sure if I ever noticed Neneh when watching a 1980s VHS on a 1970s CRT in the 1990s.
― Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Friday, 6 May 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link
I didn't notice! But now I see!
― Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link
I'm kind of fascinated by a certain line
― Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link
A certain line of movie dialogue sampled in "Hollywood Boulevard."
Also can't figure out who that Beastie Boy looking guy is at 2:45 in the "C'mon Every Beatbox" video is.
― Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link
Some of the same people including Neneh are Cherry are apparently also in the video for "Medicine Show."
― Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 6 May 2022 16:15 (one year ago) link
i had never noticed that re Neneh.i seem to recall reading somewhere that both of these BAD videos were filmed back to back, as there were plans to release the debut album as a video album which was a thing at the time.hence the similar look/folks involved.
in other news : Megatop Phoenix is one of the best albums ever.
― mark e, Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link
(C'mon Every Beatbox is not on the same album as Medicine Show)
He's also at the start, and also in the Medicine Show video - guessing that he's Flea.
― Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link
good point.a case of crap memory groove on my side.
still, i am definitely not wrong re Megatop Phoenix.
― mark e, Saturday, 7 May 2022 21:57 (one year ago) link
Lol at Flea.
― Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 May 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link
D'oh! Who knew there two guys wiling to call themselves Flea?
― Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 May 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link
Anyway, hard to tell comparing with more recent photos.
― Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 May 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link
quick question : Kool-Aid vs The Globe personally, despite the truly dreadful cover, i prefer the sample excess of Kool-Aid ..
― mark e, Saturday, 7 May 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link
Major fan of Megatop Phoenix (Tighten Up '88 isn't bad either). Stalag 123 gives me goosebumps every time. The flow of the album is just ace.
― Psychocandy Apple Grey (Pyschocandles), Sunday, 8 May 2022 07:58 (one year ago) link
assume that's Greg Roberts the drummer around 2:45
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link
Yes! Never heard of his other band, Dreadzone. They seem to be a bit of a punchline around these parts.
― Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 May 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link
Might start a Big Audio Dive-a-mite but have a feeling “Beyond the Pale” will remain my favorite.
― Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link
Also weird that there is a long section of this thread about REM.
― Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link
Bassline on “E=MC2” reminding me of “Marquee Moon.”
― Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link
until this revival i had totally forgotten that i actually have 2 albums by dreadzone.
― mark e, Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:45 (one year ago) link
going to listen to Upping St. for the first time in a very long time.i saw B.A.D live in leeds on the release tour when they had 2 stages.the main stage for them and their main supports, chiefs of relief, and the second stage that was used while things were being set up.at the time i thought it was amazing - you watched an act, then turn around and watch another act.turns out that one of the acts on the second stage was rodney p.
― mark e, Sunday, 8 May 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
oh, and before the gig (at the big refectory venue i.e. where The Who etc etc), i happened to bump into Mick and Leo.they signed my Leeds Uni union card .. and yeah, i was a total dumbstruck fanboy of course.
― mark e, Sunday, 8 May 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link
for various reasons, for a couple of days, i have the unreleased final album in FLAC form sitting in my FTP site.if there are folks in this thread who have not grabbed it over the years and are interested in hearing it then holla via the ilx email option.
― mark e, Friday, 20 May 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link
p.s. to any folks interested, i need an email address to send the link to ..
― mark e, Friday, 20 May 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link
Don't Renege: nice one on E=MC2 // Marquee Moon. Absolutely.
― three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Friday, 20 May 2022 23:09 (one year ago) link
btw.if you check the discogs page for 'Entering ..' then there was meant to be a 2nd cd i.e. tracks 12-18 :
https://www.discogs.com/release/4757692-Big-Audio-Dynamite-Entering-A-New-Ride
if those that have enjoyed the source album are wanting more, then i can help.the files are not in FLAC quality or even high mp3 quality, just 192s.but still.
― mark e, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link
That discogs page is "for" a web page hosting a fan-made bootleg, and makes it clear that the bonus tracks are not compiled from the same source as the album. (Most of them were from Radioactive label samplers, iirc, so oddly enough could have FLAC versions...)
But here's a recently-revised version of the album by band DJ "Lord Zonka"
― Yul Brynner film festival on Channel 48... (sic), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 23:53 (one year ago) link
ta for the clarification sic.i got my cd-r from someone on the BAD forum after the band stopped posting mp3s of individual tracks.it had digital hiccups on several tracks, but still was the only way i was able to hear the album.i found the FLAC version via the bands wiki page last year (link has since been removed) which increased the sound quality quality, and removed the hiccups (which i now kind of miss !).had no idea re the zonka version.
― mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2022 09:48 (one year ago) link
https://www.discogs.com/release/836966-Big-Audio-Dynamite-Big-Audio-Dynamite-II-The-Lost-Treasure-Of-Big-Audio-Dynamite-I-II
well, this is quite a compilation.12" remixes that have been mentioned upthread on the first cd, and other non-album tracks.had no idea it existed until last night.the rick rubin remix of 'bottom line' is absolutey the one for me.as per discussion upthread - it was a freebie one sided 12" with the c'mon every beatbox 12", and is totally wonderful.also, pretty sure the E=MC2 is the Widescreen remix - same remix credit.
who oh why was this 2cd set not released in the uk !
― mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link
― birdistheword,
tracked this down, and my head was all 'i know this ... 'of course i did.it's an early version of one of my fave tracks of theirs.with that all important sample as mentioned.the 'song' starts at 2:46.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjn-bUE6bzk
― mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link
That Bert Bevans mix of E=mc2 had its intro nicked for "Life is a Rollercoaster" Ronan Keating...
(I've been looking for that version on cd for ooh...)
― Mark G, Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link
hope your ilx email is still valid mark g.
here is wrong toms love for sightsee mc
https://skankblogbologna.wordpress.com/2011/05/27/a-dynamite-mc/
― mark e, Thursday, 26 May 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link
Hi, thanks! Wunnerful!
― Mark G, Thursday, 26 May 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link