Clear Channel tacitly supporting pro-war rallies.

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The fuckers. Does anyone know more about this than what can be read at Plastic.com ?

First the fucking monopolistic control of practically every radio station in the entire country, and now this fascist bullshit. It makes one long for the idyllic liberalism of Eisenhower-era Middle America.

justin s., Wednesday, 26 March 2003 01:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

I read about this somewhere else over a week ago, I'll have to dig up the link though.

Media-military-Gov't loop complete. Begin TOTAL CONTROL SOCIETY.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

ah - here we go: Chicago Tribune.

Published on Wednesday, March 19, 2003 by the Chicago Tribune

Media Giant's Rally Sponsorship Raises Questions
by Tim Jones

Some of the biggest rallies this month have endorsed President Bush's
strategy against Saddam Hussein, and the common thread linking most of them
is Clear Channel Worldwide Inc., the nation's largest owner of radio
stations.
In a move that has raised eyebrows in some legal and journalistic circles,
Clear Channel radio stations in Atlanta, Cleveland, San Antonio, Cincinnati
and other cities have sponsored rallies attended by up to 20,000 people. The
events have served as a loud rebuttal to the more numerous but generally
smaller anti-war rallies.
The sponsorship of large rallies by Clear Channel stations is unique among
major media companies, which have confined their activities in the war
debate to reporting and occasionally commenting on the news. The San
Antonio-based broadcaster owns more than 1,200 stations in 50 states and the
District of Columbia.
While labor unions and special interest groups have organized and hosted
rallies for decades, the involvement of a big publicly regulated
broadcasting company breaks new ground in public demonstrations.
"I think this is pretty extraordinary," said former Federal Communications
Commissioner Glen Robinson, who teaches law at the University of Virginia.
"I can't say that this violates any of a broadcaster's obligations, but it
sounds like borderline manufacturing of the news."
A spokeswoman for Clear Channel said the rallies, called "Rally for
America," are the idea of Glenn Beck, a Philadelphia talk show host whose
program is syndicated by Premier Radio Networks, a Clear Channel subsidiary.

`Just patriotic rallies'
A weekend rally in Atlanta drew an estimated 20,000 people, with some
carrying signs reading "God Bless the USA" and other signs condemning France
and the group Dixie Chicks, one of whose members recently criticized
President Bush.
"They're not intended to be pro-military. It's more of a thank you to the
troops. They're just patriotic rallies," said Clear Channel spokeswoman Lisa
Dollinger.
Rallies sponsored by Clear Channel radio stations are scheduled for this
weekend in Sacramento, Charleston, S.C., and Richmond, Va. Although Clear
Channel promoted two of the recent rallies on its corporate Web site,
Dollinger said there is no corporate directive that stations organize
rallies.
"Any rallies that our stations have been a part of have been of their own
initiative and in response to the expressed desires of their listeners and
communities," Dollinger said.
Clear Channel is by far the largest owner of radio stations in the nation.
The company owned only 43 in 1995, but when Congress removed many of the
ownership limits in 1996, Clear Channel was quickly on the highway to radio
dominance. The company owns and operates 1,233 radio stations (including six
in Chicago) and claims 100 million listeners. Clear Channel generated about
20 percent of the radio industry's $16 billion in 2001 revenues.
Size sparks criticism
The media giant's size also has generated criticism. Some recording artists
have charged that Clear Channel's dominance in radio and concert promotions
is hurting the recording industry. Congress is investigating the effects of
radio consolidation. And the FCC is considering ownership rule changes,
among them changes that could allow Clear Channel to expand its reach.
Sen. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.) has introduced a bill that could halt further
deregulation in the radio industry and limit each company's audience share
and percent of advertising dollars. These measures could limit Clear
Channel's meteoric growth and hinder its future profitability.
Jane Kirtley, a professor of media ethics and law at the University of
Minnesota, said the company's support of the Bush administration's policy
toward Iraq makes it "hard to escape the concern that this may in part be
motivated by issues that Clear Channel has before the FCC and Congress."
Dollinger denied there is a connection between the rallies and the company's
pending regulatory matters.
Rick Morris, an associate professor of communications at Northwestern
University, said these actions by Clear Channel stations are a logical
extension of changes in the radio industry over the last 20 years, including
the blurring of lines between journalism and entertainment.
From a business perspective, Morris said, the rallies are a natural fit for
many stations, especially talk-radio stations where hosts usually espouse
politically conservative views.
"Nobody should be surprised by this," Morris said.
In 1987 the FCC repealed the Fairness Doctrine, which required broadcasters
to cover controversial issues in their community and to do so by offering
balancing views. With that obligation gone, Morris said, "radio can behave
more like newspapers, with opinion pages and editorials."
"They've just begun stretching their legs, being more politically active,"
Morris said.


Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 26 March 2003 01:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

well it's not like there are a dozen rallies like this a week, like there are of the "other" kind of rally.

JP Albin (John Paul Albin), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 03:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

They aren't tacitly supporting pro-war rallies, they're visibly and directly supporting pro-war rallies.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 06:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

They are ACTIVELY SPONSORING pro-war rallies (which is sort of TACIT in a very EXTREME way if you think about illogically haha.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

Clear Channel has no business funding and supporting political rallies, no matter how many of them there are. They're a monolithic mega-coporation with shady business practices anyway. And David Allen, if you're reading this, the Dismemberment Plan still suck.

justin s., Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

Paul Krugman dedicated his column to this in yesterday's (3/25) New York Times. After speculating that Clear Channel may be trying to gain favor with the GOP at a time when radio deregulation is under federal scrutiny, Krugman takes it a step further:

Or perhaps the quid pro quo is more narrowly focused. Experienced Bushologists let out a collective "Aha!" when Clear Channel was revealed to be behind the pro-war rallies, because the company's top management has a history with George W. Bush. The vice chairman of Clear Channel is Tom Hicks, whose name may be familiar to readers of this column. When Mr. Bush was governor of Texas, Mr. Hicks was chairman of the University of Texas Investment Management Company, called Utimco, and Clear Channel's chairman, Lowry Mays, was on its board. Under Mr. Hicks, Utimco placed much of the university's endowment under the management of companies with strong Republican Party or Bush family ties. In 1998 Mr. Hicks purchased the Texas Rangers in a deal that made Mr. Bush a multimillionaire.

Then Krugman goes on to talk about how "We should have realized that this is a two-way street: if politicians are busy doing favors for businesses that support them, why shouldn't we expect businesses to reciprocate by doing favors for those politicians — by, for example, organizing 'grass roots' rallies on their behalf?"

Sam Jeffries (samjeff), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 07:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

well, that's sickening. i don't know why they're bothering to kiss ass - the current FCC chairman is colin powell's useless son michael, who seems to only get enjoyment out of life if he's fucking over the people of the united states by letting big media corporations buy more and more stations and have less and less supervision over what they do. more info here.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 08:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

just to offer another perspective...

the CBC (canadian broadcasting corporation) has been publically funding the anti-war rallies...I personally think that this is more insidious as the CBC is funded by taxpayers dollars

geeg, Thursday, 27 March 2003 03:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

krugman is a buffoon though. still never gave his money back to enron did he?

keith (keithmcl), Thursday, 27 March 2003 04:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree, geeg. Either way it's sickening, whether you're pro-war or anti-war, to see these supposedly neutral entities openly funding biased political events. I'm just more pissed off at Clear Channel because they were always a monolithic, evil corporation to begin with anyway. Their recent and open support of pro-war rallies is just more glaring proof of how intimately the Clear Channel CEOs are in bed with Bush.

justin s., Thursday, 27 March 2003 06:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

I see this as a predicatable move on Clear Channel's part, but not only because of their ties to Bush. Sure, that's part of it. But the higher-ups likely truly believe that the war is good and just, and that violating international law is no big deal. Clear Channel has a history of being big dick-swinging jerks in almost every department, from their draconian business practices to their numerous allegations of sexual harrassment. Of course Clear Channel is going to see things from the point of view of the invader, the one who at heart has only its own interests in mind. They are of exactly the same mind as the government.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 27 March 2003 07:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is playing right into the anti-war movements hands, though, IF THEY COULD JUST PICK UP THE BALL. We had one of these rallies in Chicago, and some of the pro-war people who showed up were making all sorts of embarrassing, especially racist, statements. Then all of these Free Republic people showed up, and you know how fanatical they are. I heard a sound file of one pro-war dude telling an Indian-American, "go back to where you came from". So Clear Channel doesn't know or doesn't care what they're getting into here - associating themselves not with patriotism, but with fanaticism. It's no surprise to me, but an equation is being blatantly proclaimed here. I mean, Clear Channel was always dogshit. Now they're double dogshit. The opportunities for mockery are endless, and they're providing a public space to do that. I'm thrilled.

Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

The company owns and operates 1,233 radio stations (including six
in Chicago)

anyone know which Chicago stations these are? This partly explains why Chicago (privately-owned) radio sucks balls.

oops (Oops), Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

the CBC (canadian broadcasting corporation) has been publically funding the anti-war rallies...I personally think that this is more insidious as the CBC is funded by taxpayers dollars

where the hell did you hear that?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

and so strange that lastnight Godspeed You Black Emperor! played a Clear Channel show in Detroit...

ken taylrr, Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Either way it's sickening, whether you're pro-war or anti-war, to see these supposedly neutral entities openly funding biased political events.

That's weird I never though of Clear Channel as neutral in any way. They're a private company, they have an axe to grind.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

For some reason this old vision has returned into my head of those private energy-industry sessions in the White House back at the beginning of Dubya/Cheney's term with Hamid Karzai (a former Unocal associate), Condi Rice (a former Chevron associate), Ken Lay, and Taliban representatives, only suddenly now they're joined by Tom Hicks of Clearchannel. It's just a retarded paranoid stoner vision, I know this, but shit.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why should Krugman give the fees he earned from Enron (way before 2001) back? It's not gonna help their laid-off workers any.

hstencil, Thursday, 27 March 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Paul Krugman, the Bush administration's most caustic, authoritative, and well-spoken critic, is the last journalist in the world I would accuse of being a "bufoon."

Sam Jeffries (samjeff), Thursday, 27 March 2003 19:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

(or a "buffoon," for that matter)

Sam Jeffries (samjeff), Thursday, 27 March 2003 19:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

I agree, Krugman was on NPR this afternoon, matching wits with some drone from the Heritage Foundation, and it sounded kinda like this (with Krugman as "Nathan" and the Heritage Foundation Guy as "Bob") although it mostly kept drifting back to issues of budgets and medicare cuts.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 27 March 2003 19:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Which NPR "show" was that on? I'd be interested in finding the audio.

Last night, TV belonged to another Times editorial page heavy hitta - Thomas Friedman interviewed on CNN, then had a show on the Discovery Channel where he traveled around the Mideast and Europe, talking to people about the post-9/11 Muslim world. (Nodding earnestly behind his heavy moustache.)

Sam Jeffries (samjeff), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Diane Reams show (it had a guest host though...missus Emphysema must be at the clinic in Switzerland getting her blood changed or something.)

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, here's a link
http://www.wamu.org/dr/index.html
Look for the 10:00. It's 80% of the way down the page.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Cool, thanks.

Looks like he was also on Freshhhh Air this week, talking about the tax cut - his bread and buttah.

http://discover.npr.org/features/feature.jhtml?wfId=1174641

Sam Jeffries (samjeff), Thursday, 27 March 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Diane Reams show
Oooops. Sorry. Her last name name is actually 'Rehms.'
If you've never heard her show, she sounds like this 190-year old lady who must be sucking on oxygen between asking questions.
But she can occasionally ask something really brutal and still sound like a nice old grandma when she says it. Ho ho ho.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Thursday, 27 March 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, now, this is total and complete bullshit.

The whole idea came to radio talk show host Glenn Beck by a caller who was complaining about the anti-war rallies and that there were no pro-American rallies going on, and this gave Beck an idea to start up some rallies. He organized the first two (I've forgotten where they were held) and then the station managers for the various radio stations around the country that syndicate his program called him up on the rest.

You guys are totally being fed major spin by ultra-left wingers who can't stand the fact that there are regular Americans out there who don't hate their country and that the actions of the regular people can have so much of an effect on the country. NPR's coverage of the war in Iraq is more loathing of the troops than anything anyone at CNN has ever said, and that's saying something. Also, Glenn Beck himself has complained about how much the reporters who are desperately trying to angle the stories about the "Rallies for America" into a "corporate control" conspiracy so they can see the efforts of everyday Americans who are actually appreciative of this country burn to the ground.

It angers me that lies like the ones you've stated are being gobbled up, especially since it seeks to discredit the efforts of people such as the 16-year-old girl who almost single-handedly set up a "Rally for America" in her community and who was harrassed by a reporter with an agenda.

Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 3 April 2003 02:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

p.s.: THESE ARE NOT PRO-WAR RALLIES. These are "Rallies for America", rallies (or is it rallys? -- er, I really don't care anymore) that celebrate America and show support for the troops. One of the first rallies, in fact, opened up with a prayer for peace by an Muslim imam.

You want to talk about balance and illicit funding? What about all those anti-war rallies? Many of them are funded by Communist organizations that provide the protestors with ready-made signs that say all manner of nasty things about Bush and Blair but don't say a single thing about the evil deeds of Saddam Hussein. In fact, at an anti-war rally in London, when a woman who fled Iraq in '91 to live in England wanted to talk to the crowd about the horrors she suffered under the Hussein regime, she wasn't allowed to do that. She was pushed away. Why was she? Why couldn't she talk about something that had all the relevance in the world to the issue these people were supposedly protesting?

Dee the Lurker (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 3 April 2003 02:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

I must have missed something. . . where are these lies that you are referring to? It seems like yr statement jibes pretty well with what the Tribune article had to say (the radio stations are using their airwaves to organize political rallies).

And Rallies for America = Rallies to Support the Policies of George Bush = Rallies to Support George Bush's War on Iraq. It's pretty silly to claim otherwise.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 3 April 2003 02:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

You guys are totally being fed major spin by ultra-left wingers who can't stand the fact that there are regular Americans out there who don't hate their country and that the actions of the regular people can have so much of an effect on the country.

Yeah, because anyone who would dare to suggest that they had a right given them by the founding fathers of this country to vocally oppose the current administration's policies obviously hates America.

As far as this "constitution" thingy that keeps coming up, Osama Hussein must have had a hand in it. Or the Taliban. Err, or Commies--those dirty red bastards are sneaky like that.

webcrack (music=crack), Thursday, 3 April 2003 03:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

Okay, Dee, I just don't understand you at all. WHY does an anti-war rally HAVE to be automatically labelled as "anti-American", therefore making any pro-war rally "pro-American"? The Clear Channel rallies were more or less explicitly for the war itself, no matter how much they'd like to package it otherwise. This is not an issue of patriotism versus anti-patriotism; that's just a convenient rhetorical device that's useful to disguise the truth of what's going on. In any event, Clear Channel has just as much a right to support the war as other media outlets do not to support the war; however, I started this thread to discuss my outrage over the fact that Clear Channel is a purportedly apolitical media-based corporation, and is just further establishing itself as a bastion of corporate conservatism. There's no "ultra left-wing" conspiracy here, just a massive corporation -- NOT regular people, as you try to argue -- proving more and more each day that it's just the mouthpiece of Bush's agendas. Nice try, but your rhetoric just strikes a completely hollow note.

justin s., Thursday, 3 April 2003 04:14 (twenty-one years ago) link


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