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all of those festivals, it seems like it'd be a no-brainer to have a film crew on hand, but obviously that did not always happen.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link

Totally. Or sometimes, when there was a film crew, it took decades for the film to get finished/released (Message To Love, Soul Power).

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

the amougies film still hasn't seen official release.

rushomancy, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

holy shit @ that festival lineup

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:15 (nine years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Recorded-Live-At-Newport-In-New-York/release/1182883

On a related note I picked this ^^^^ up the other week and it is great and oh my god why has no one released the full length live sets from Stevie and Donny et al

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

Like, I learned a while back that all four nights at the Bitter End Curtis Mayfield played for Curtis Live were recorded, and I'm like, I want to hear all of that.

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link

wait so miles was second on the bill at newport??

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:28 (nine years ago) link

not sure if the poster is in order of importance... maybe though. did gary burton have some huge summer of 69 hit?
and yeah, good lord, why haven't they put out a complete curtis live box set, give me a break.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:34 (nine years ago) link

Burton was definitely big-time then, and Miles was still playing clubs in the US (he didn't hit the rock halls until months later), so it's not inconceivable that Burton would headline over Miles.

But I dunno how accurate those running orders are...if I was George Wein, I'd have Zeppelin close, rather than open, the final night.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:43 (nine years ago) link

I wonder if "Jeff Beck" means the classic Rod, Dunbar, Ron Wood lineup or something different?

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:45 (nine years ago) link

at least rod was there:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lNIWaei3RI

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:50 (nine years ago) link

eesh ^^ this smokes

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

Indeed it does!

There used to be a stream of a 1968 Detroit Jeff Beck show (with Mickey Waller and Nicky Hopkins!) on Wolfgang's Vault, but apparently it's gone. Supposedly, the Jeff Beck Group and the Who were the only two touring acts not to be blown off the Grande stage by the MC5.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 April 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

Thanks to that amazing Newport Jazz Fest poster for my new display name

SCHLITZ MIXED BAG (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

the bonkers incredible jazz lineup is insane on its own

then you have 69 zeppelin, mothers of invention, jeff beck group, and sly & the family stone...jimminy christmas talk about some live bands

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

AND an afternoon with James Brown

SCHLITZ MIXED BAG (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:25 (nine years ago) link

lol at schlitz mixed bag. might need to start some kind of noize band w/ that name.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link

i know there some audio boots from the festival. i have the savage rose set kicking around somewhere. (yes, of all the bands on that poster the one that most excites me is savage rose.)

rushomancy, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:54 (nine years ago) link

Savage Rose were pretty cool. "A Trial In Our Native Town" is one of the secret roots of doom metal; if someone put that out now and people would lose their shit.

^^^ NOT METAL (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

wtf that tune is nuts! never heard that before

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 April 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

holy shit! thanks for the tip.. amazing that's 1968

Josefa, Thursday, 16 April 2015 20:06 (nine years ago) link

Savage Rose is also def rec to those who like or would like to like spooky folk metal---but they had several stages etc., and since we're talking jazz now, don't forget Babylon their album feat. Ben Webster
(second row of pix, far right)
http://www.soundstation.dk/images/products/large/57/133257-b.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB7zzpNV8y4

dow, Thursday, 16 April 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Epic/Legacy is excited to announce the debut release of SLY & THE FAMILY STONE-LIVE AT THE FILLMORE EAST OCTOBER 4th& 5th 1968, a four-disc set of previously unreleased live shows recorded during the band's rise at New York City's legendary venue. The set is out today, Friday, July 17

curmudgeon, Friday, 17 July 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

got the promo -- very fun stuff, though it might've been better served chopped down to two discs of highlights.

tylerw, Friday, 17 July 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

R.I.P. Cynthia Robinson:

Friends, Famliy and Fans through out the world, Cynthia Robinson, Trumpeter and Co- Founder of Sly and The Family Stone has passed.
Our condolences go out to the Robinson Family and her bandmates and all family & friends ! You are in our thoughts and prayers and we are here for you. Please continue to support the Cynthia Robinson Cancer Care Fund due to the rising medical costs ( anything helps ). This site will stay up in her memory. God bless you Cynthia ! https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1612767712320749&id=1422867367977452

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

man, i rarely get "gutted" by internet death news, but this makes me so sad. such a big part of my life. where would i be without that group and her in it? they taught me to love so much of what i love.

scott seward, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

Aw man RIP

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:38 (eight years ago) link

:(((( RIP Cynthia

Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

:( RIP

All The Squares Go Pwn (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 17:40 (eight years ago) link

two years pass...

Finally listening to Heard Ya Missed Me for the first time on Spotify. On first listen, this is a *far* better record than its reputation. The arrangements are generally excellent, there is no shortage of oddball melodies and the title track is a Latin number. “Mother Is a Hippie” is great and “What Was I Thinkin’” is this record’s “Crossword Puzzle”-esque killer groove.

I have to think this record’s terrible rap has more to do with its title and his own rep in the industry at that point than the music. This is better than High On You.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

I haven't listened to either of these in so long, I should just put em on blind and see how they hold.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

Also I remember paying $26 for a Japanese import cd of Heard Ya Missed me at Tower Records in 1997 because apparently that's what I was willing to do for more Sly at that point.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link

Hate the philly soul sorta arrangements on Heard Ya Missed Me. It's his worst record.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link

No way it's better than "High On You" but I'm still fond of it.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:44 (six years ago) link

It's not even better than Back on the Right Track

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link

I used to really like Back on the Right Track -- or at least, spent a lot of time with it when I got that Charley reissue in the 90s. But I think this one is sneaky -- those "philly soul sorta arrangements" are more clever than they seem. There's a lot of Sly syncopation going on -- but also some welcome diversity in the styles: Latin, doo-wop, pop. Maybe give it another shot?

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

I'd have to listen to a youtube rip or something - sold back my copy years ago lol

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link

Runs out of steam on Side 2, songwriting is far from top notch Sly but, yes, some neat arrangements, basslines etc.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

I don't mind side one of Heard Ya Missed Me! Sly and Cynthia are in fine voice! The first 2 tracks are fire emoji.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

Loved this passage in this review I found online of High On You:

Sly frittered away the last ten years of his career doing his best to convince the world that, as his drug habits and isolationist tendencies worsened and the Family Stone fell to pieces in a morass of guns, bulldogs, and PCP, everything was fine! Better than ever, in fact! You don’t believe me? Check out my album titles! “Heard Ya Missed Me, Well I’m Back!” “Back on The Right Track!” I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an unreleased album from that era called “I Don’t Do Drugs Anymore, So Trust Me When I Say That Everything’s Cool!”

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

To my ears, this very hot Coffey set, ' bout to be served up by Omnivore, has Sly-type appeal:

Dennis Coffey
One Night At Morey’s: 1968
Release date: June 1, 2018

From his early work with ’50s/’60s hit makers The Royaltones (who also backed other artists like Del Shannon)—to his run through the Motor City’s independent labels as a session ace—to his pioneering and legendary work with The Funk Brothers, backing band to massive Motown hits like “Just My Imagination,” “Ball Of Confusion (That’s What The World Is Today),” “War,” “Cloud Nine,” “Someday We’ll Be Together” and “Band Of Gold” among many others—Dennis Coffey is a guitar legend.

The ’70s didn’t slow him down for one second as he struck out on his own and had a million selling hit with “Scorpio,” in 1971. He continued his studio session work (notably appearing on “Boogie Fever” by The Sylvers), scored films and produced other artists’ albums like Gallery’s Nice To Be With You and Rodriguez’ Cold Fact.

The 2000s have found Dennis appearing on the big screen including the 2002 film Standing In The Shadows Of Motown and the 2012’s Searching For Sugarman. And to this very day you can find him playing every Tuesday night in Detroit.

One Night At Morey’s: 1968 is drawn from the residency at Morey Baker’s Showplace Lounge in Detroit by the Lyman Woodard Trio. The trio consisted of Coffey on guitar, brilliant organist, Lyman Woodard, and drummer Melvin Davis, and could be found at Morey’s once a week. They played to a dedicated, often repeat, audience so the band kept the repertoire fresh and changing. One Night At Morey’s: 1968 follows last year’s Hot Coffey In The D: Burnin’ At Morey Baker’s Showplace Lounge released by Resonance Records, also drawn from the Morey’s residency, but with an entirely different track list.

All tracks on One Night At Morey’s: 1968 are previously unissued and come directly from the vaults of Dennis Coffey and producer partner, Mike Theodore. Tracks include original compositions, “Big City Lights,” “Mindbender,” and “Union Station,” as well as surprising and funky covers of “Billie’s Bounce” by Charlie Parker, “Burning Spear” by The Soul Strings, “Cissy Strut” by The Meters, “Eleanor Rigby” by The Beatles, “Groovin’” by The Young Rascals, and “I’m A Midnight Mover” by Wilson Pickett from the pen of both Pickett and Bobby Womack.

CD / DIGITAL TRACK LIST:
I’M A MIDNIGHT MOVER
ELEANOR RIGBY
CISSY STRUT
GROOVIN’
BURNING SPEAR
IT’S YOUR THING/UNION STATION
MINDBENDER
BIG CITY LIGHTS
BILLIE’S BOUNCE
All tracks previously unissued.
Cat: OV-284

dow, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

“I Don’t Do Drugs Anymore, So Trust Me When I Say That Everything’s Cool!”

lmao

Οὖτις, Thursday, 10 May 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

Love the first half of "Heard Ya Missed Me..." and that title track is fantastic.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 10 May 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link

“I Don’t Do Drugs Anymore, So Trust Me When I Say That Everything’s Cool!”

sounds like a good "clickbait that would make a good album title"

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 10 May 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link

The album title is only slightly more on the nose than the song titles and lyrics (which are nowhere to be found on the internet BTW). “Everything In You Has to Come Out,” “What Was I Thinkin’ In My Head” – every lyric on this is some perversion of the optimism of his earlier records—“Everybody Is a Star,” “Life,” “Stand”—into this staring-into-the-abyss “Holy shit, I’m gonna DIE/Please give me one more chance” desperation.

It’s obviously not as successful or revolutionary as, say, There’s A Riot Goin’ On. But in a lot of ways the result is infinitely more pained.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 11 May 2018 05:21 (six years ago) link

Thanks, don. Speaking of Dennis Coffey, his book wasn’t bad either. Recommended reading about the rise and fall and return of a studio ace running the maze of interrelated Motor City music worlds.

The Great Atomic Cat Power (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 10:17 (six years ago) link

Remembered the first two words but had to look up the full title: Guitars, Bars and Motown Superstars.

The Great Atomic Cat Power (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 10:22 (six years ago) link

The idea that High on You is anywhere near the banality of Heard Ya Missed Me is just ludicrous.

High On You is definitely second tier Sly, but Heard Ya Missed Me is, like, fifth tier by that measuring stick.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Tuesday, 15 May 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

xxp Thanks, James! Posted your tip about the book here:
Diary of a POLL Star: what are your most/least favorite books by musos?

dow, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 03:11 (six years ago) link

I'm slightly annoyed that Ten Years Too Soon is so hard to find on the interwebs. The "(I Get) High on You" remix is pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF06ACOtc1M

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link


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