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The new Grandaddy album leaked. 'Sumday'.

Thoughts?

Scott Warner (thream), Saturday, 22 March 2003 19:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've got it queued on slsk and I am geeked to find out what "El Caminos In the West" is about/sounds like. But 12 tracks? I thought it was supposed to be an epic double CD.

And where the fuck are all the songs about Alan Parsons?

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 22 March 2003 19:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really like grandaddy.

I hadn't thought about them for a long time until last week and I listened to all their records.

then I wondered what they were doing nowadays.

I think I'll have a look on imesh.

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 22 March 2003 19:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's Gdaddy on autopilot. Not bad, but a little less inspired than their previous incursion into very samey material.

Hmmm... several songs with robot analogies...

Scott Warner (thream), Sunday, 23 March 2003 01:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Alan Parsons in a Winter Wonderland = Best Christmas Song Ever.

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 23 March 2003 04:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

I bought their last one on the strength of hype...and I'm sorry, but I just don't "get" whatever about them that is supposed to be great.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

their first album was exceptional
i didn't really get into the more recent one,although i saw them play live around the same time and thought it was great...

robin (robin), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

I bought the last one too. Sort of liked it for a while, then got really bored of it and sold it back. I can only take so many sentimental songs about robots.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Which would be... er... two?

This new one is initially disappointing mostly because it lacks what I loved about The Sophtware Slump: an unsubtle veneer of anachronistic electronics and synths. I'm a sucker for that retrofuturistic quasi-'70s stuff, especially in a pop context; "The Crystal Lake" and "Chartsengrafs" are what Weezer wish they could still be but hijacked by The Cars' junkyard band electronic-surplus-raiding Atari addict kids. This new one sounds like Wilco, which wouldn't be such a bad thing if (a) there weren't a Wilco already and (b) they hadn't lured me in a couple years ago with BLEEP BO-DOOP WHIRRRRRRR.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tom's favorite band EVAH!

(Note: I am lying to a ridiculous degree.)

They were all right opening for Gorky's but I wanted to see Gorky's and not them, dammit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

(Granted, I haven't paid much attention to the lyrics yet, which is another of their strong suits, so it'll probably grow on me)

(Also, at least "Now It's On" fills that whole robo-pop niche pretty well)

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

Which would be... er... two?

True, but then there are all the sentimental songs not about robots.

o. nate (onate), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh. Well... yeah. I suppose it takes a certain mood to listen to that sort of stuff. "Mopey and alone", maybe. An odd coincidence: the day I came home from the record store with The Sophtware Slump (an impulse buy from the used bin: "Hey, they did that 'Crystal Lake' song, and I liked that"), I found a copy of "Jimmy Corrigan: Smartest Kid on Earth" waiting for me.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

i just downloaded it and I really like I'm On Standby and a few others. 's ok - i was never a huge fan but i own all their other records and this one is just as good as the others.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 24 March 2003 16:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

the band for the bearded contingent of ilm

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 24 March 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Do "goatee and sideburns" count as a beard? Also, what the fuck does beardedness have to do with Grandaddy?

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Monday, 24 March 2003 17:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can someone post a list of the songs with the real
lengths, just like someone did on the "Hail To The Thief"
thread?

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 1 April 2003 18:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

two years pass...
Grandaddy split up.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 27 January 2006 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Shame.

StanM (StanM), Friday, 27 January 2006 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Boo! :(

sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 27 January 2006 11:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Shame. The Sophtware Slump was one of those magical moments where you buy a record and everything about your life at that point seems to fit together in context with the album.

They also encouraged me to grow a beard. Rock on.

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 27 January 2006 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I imagine I probably still like grandaddy but haven't listened to them in ages and never bought or heard the record that this thread was started for

oh, well, they split up

RJG (RJG), Friday, 27 January 2006 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link

i don't like this

rizzx (Rizz), Friday, 27 January 2006 11:48 (eighteen years ago) link

The split or the album?

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 27 January 2006 11:50 (eighteen years ago) link

as the hermit said in life of brian, "oh damn damn damn damn".

a real shame.

whatever (boglogger), Friday, 27 January 2006 12:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Grandaddy had a weird position in the indie rock landscape. They were the band that sounded enough like one of your favorite bands to be worth checking out, but they were never anyone's favorite band. Did Sophtware Slump rank decently high in P&J?

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link

i thought a new album was supposed to come out? this sucks

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

oh I guess I should read the nme article

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Fuck. I really liked Sophtware Slump, it just fit perfectly in my life at the time. I'll give it a listen tonight and enjoy the memories. I always wanted to see them live, guess that's not going to be happening any time soon now :(

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm glad I saw them support the super furry animals in glasgow. I never did get along to any subsequent tours. Damn.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 27 January 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I did get to see five shows, so I am lucky (sorry, blatant bragging on my part here)

tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

i really enjoyed grandaddy.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 27 January 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Catching Grandaddy at The Paradise (Boston) in '03 was and remains, without question, one of my Top 5 Live Shows of All-Time (Radiohead at Glastonbury in '97; PJ Harvey at The Academy (NYC) in '93 -- also in there to give some context).

Suxxor that they likely won't tour for their swan song. Although there's no tellin' if Fambly Cat will be Sumday II or a return to Sophtware and/or ...Freeway form. If the former perhaps we should just immerse ourselves in the latter and thank Lytle & Co. for sharing the two with us.

All in all, Grandaddy'll be missed.

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Friday, 27 January 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

saw grandaddy, bright eyes & home at the khyber back in the day. the only time i ever saw any of those bands! sophtware slump was brilliant.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i really liked them. dude's fondness for cats was a little creepy, though.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

they were indeed thrilling live, they rocked those beards hard. saw them twice and it makes me feel good

rizzx (Rizz), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Did Sophtware Slump rank decently high in P&J?

this question is somwhat ridiculous as there are zillions of people that know what Sophtware Slump is as opposed to 50 who know what P&J stands for

Rizz (Rizz), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

*who know

Rizz (Rizz), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah grandaddy were the shit, I saw them three? four times... the first as a fluke when highway came out at a label showcase, no idea who they were. after that it was exclusively when they were opening for bigger bands, they got the luxury of playing great sized rooms that really worked for their sound. oh and once I saw them play for free at justin herman plaza outside inthe cold here in SF. that was the last time I guess.

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Mark OTM. Despite some great recordings there was something dude-ish and off-putting about these guys where it would feel kind of embarassing or at least kind of boring to really love them. I really really liked Sophtware Slump at the time, but they peaked at being my second-favorite band of the times, and rapidly declined after I kind of got sick of that album and couldn't find too much to love in their first one. "Summer Here Kids" grates on me, although I adore "Go Progress Chrome." Never got any of the post-Slump releases.

SEARCH: A friend of mine turned me on to "MGM Grand," which is a great direction for their sound, more uptempo, lyrics less cloaked in dumb metaphors and just concerned with telling this kind of freaky, dream-like story of some kids throwing a sick lion off the roof of a building. The one track by them that I'll be putting on mixtapes twenty years from now, and for which I'll really mourn their breakup, is "Protected From The Rain," a very simple, affecting (somewhat emo-y) ballad.

DESTROY: All album titles. Maybe those were why it was hard to get really excited about a Grandaddy album coming out. I mean... "Just Like The Fambly Cat"?

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw them play the Leadmill in Sheffield some time in 2003. The whole band and crew were in the curry house round the corner before the show. It was the last night of the tour and they seemed a little, ahem, drunk. Someone on the crew had slipped photos of Jason Lytle's dog into the visuals, which prompted him to stop the song and collapse in a fit of giggles. Also, the girl stood next to me was sick. Good times.

Mike W (caek), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

P&J
26. Ryan Adams: Heartbreaker (Bloodshot) 344 (34)
27. Grandaddy: The Sophtware Slump (V2) 339 (35)
28. Le Tigre: Le Tigre (Mr.Lady) 329 (29) *

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Friday, 27 January 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

something dude-ish and off-putting about these guys

their beards were what were so great about them! they didn't even remotely look like the kinds of guys that would be making soaring ELO inspired synth epics! they looked like a bunch of skaters!

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

they were huge sounding live, "crystal lake" especially. too bad everything they put out after "slump" was kind of shitty. "slump" is a classic now.

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

this will cheer everyone up:

http://www.stewdio.org/jed/

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

you know all the times I saw them I never heard them play Crystal Lake, it was like the avoided playing their hit or something

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks, cutty. that was awesome.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link

weird - I saw them at a Noisepop show in 2000 and thought they were horrible, tons of equipment problems, tuneless twiddling... never bothered with the albums, all their titles seemed so cloying and proud of their "look at me, I'm making a pun!" cleverness.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link

something dude-ish and off-putting about these guys
their beards were what were so great about them! they didn't even remotely look like the kinds of guys that would be making soaring ELO inspired synth epics! they looked like a bunch of skaters!

-- kyle (akmonda...), Today 1:05 PM. (akmonday)

Jason Lytle was a pro-skater prior to blowing his knee to bits and taking up music.

To you folks unfamiliar with Grandaddy's hometown/base, they were from MODESTO, CA. I don't know how many of you have ever been there, but guys, this is not Los Angeles, San Francisco, or San Diego... it's the backward suburban central valley that Steve Malkmus paid tribute to with "Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends/We'll watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame"... and unlike Pavement (SM in Portland/Spiral in Seattle), Grandaddy were lifers.

I hadn't seen them since their record release party for Sophtware Slump at the Cafe Du Nord in June 2000 (it was a great show). I actually only heard one song of their's since then ("Now It's On" which I think is a great song!) but I often see members around (friends of friends) and they're always been really cool, mellow dudes, dudes.

Steve

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: Modesto vs. Visalia

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 27 January 2006 21:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Heh...that one bugs the hell out of me.

it is from the POV of a lost cat, therefore = most ILX friendly song ever

kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 11 February 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

http://jasonlytle.com/famblydemos.php

StanM, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry for the bare link, but it's all explained there :-)

StanM, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Not even seen the link.
Just saw the thread.

If you old timers were there.Leeds Festering.1964. or ws it 2004? Jase having a pop at the so called punkers on the mainstage? He called it quits shortly after.

How could the fat old bearded skater compete with all that make up and gloss?

And ZERO tunes

Fer Ark, Thursday, 27 March 2008 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link

To clear it up. not that anycnt is listening
GRANDADDY= ELO

Grandaddy = Class

Fer Ark, Thursday, 27 March 2008 00:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm. Fambly Cat is the only Grandaddy album I haven't heard, and I'm not sure if I want my first listen to the songs to be demo versions. Then again, although I like Grandaddy alright, I haven't listened to them in a few years and probably wouldn't pick up Fambly Cat unless it was $3 or something, so it's likely I won't hear it for several more years anyway.

This is the most difficult decision anyone has ever faced.

Z S, Thursday, 27 March 2008 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Another Grandaddy obscurity (Sophtware Slump era) my friend Dave turned me on to: "Our Dying Brains," which has a really effective/affecting cut-n-paste job on the wordless chorus vocal.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 27 March 2008 03:23 (sixteen years ago) link

not a huge loss really having missed the boat on 'fambly cat'

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 27 March 2008 04:17 (sixteen years ago) link

grandaddy's relative success now seems like a long-distant surreal dream...how could it have happened?

akm, Thursday, 27 March 2008 05:19 (sixteen years ago) link

the possibility i may one day hear one of this band's songs again is somehow very depressing

electricsound, Thursday, 27 March 2008 05:22 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

The instrumental hooks from one of their songs (no vocals) is featured in a new car ad - for a Dodge SUV, I think. It came on the TV, and it was driving me nuts. I knew it was something I'd heard before - maybe even something I used to own - but I couldn't place it. Some internet searching revealed that it is in fact Grandaddy's "AM 180".

http://stereogum.com/archives/commercial-appeal/grandaddys-am-180-defuses-bombs-walk-marathons-sel_009098.html

I didn't even own the album - but I guess I'd heard the song somewhere.

o. nate, Monday, 5 May 2008 03:24 (fifteen years ago) link

it was also the theme for charlie brooker's screenwipe in the UK (which surprised me) and something else i can't remember (some radio show?)

ah, grandaddy. how i loved "under the western freeway" and "the sophtware slump". how disappointed i was by everything that came after. how i wept tears of boredom watching them live at the QMU.

very, very strange band.

grimly fiendish, Monday, 5 May 2008 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

"Just Like The Fambly Cat" is a wonderful, wonderful album. "Where I'm Anymore" is Grandaddy's best song (unless the last two of Sophtware Slump count as one). The closing track is one of the saddest things ever. Wow.

Just got offed, Sunday, 1 June 2008 02:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, this whole time I thought the line from AM 180 was "We'll defuse bombs, walk 'round in thongs..."

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 1 June 2008 04:40 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Listening to "Go Progress Chrome" today and loving it all over again. Great sound. I wonder whether the Homestarrunner guys were listening to this when they came up with the voice for Strong Sad, though.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 April 2011 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

ten months pass...

http://www.prefixmag.com/news/grandaddy-reforms/62660/

StanM, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

huh that's cool. they were surprisingly good live.

tylerw, Friday, 2 March 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

gotdamn, theres like 6 grandaddy threads...

Jason Lytle's new shit has some hot jams. "Your Final Setting Sun" especially.

billstevejim, Monday, 22 October 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

only heard the new one once, but it sounded kinda blah to me? will give it another go, my wife loves this dude, so i'll probably be hearing it a lot.

tylerw, Monday, 22 October 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

I started with that one song (track 10) because it was recommended. It's not an even album but the standouts are as good as Grandaddy.

billstevejim, Monday, 22 October 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

Summer festival tour dates in August 2016 are being made public - there's been a new album in the works for a while now, probably ready?

StanM, Friday, 8 April 2016 16:00 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

lovely stuff ty

imago, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 09:50 (seven years ago) link

Blimey. Not thought of this band in years but quite like that.

Looking at Discogs, is it right that this will be their first recorded output in 10 years?

groovypanda, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 10:27 (seven years ago) link

Yes, first in ten years and very promising it is.

michaellambert, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 10:50 (seven years ago) link

There was a live set on one of the torrent sites yesterday. I thought I hadn't heard of the band being active in years.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 10:55 (seven years ago) link

The album's been delayed to next year, btw. Recent live set:

http://concert.arte.tv/fr/grandaddy-au-cabaret-vert

Cabaret Vert festival, 26 Aug 2016, Charleville-Mézières, France

Hewlett's Daughter
El Caminos in the West
Laughing Stock
The Crystal Lake
My Small Love
Chartsengrafs
Stray Dog and the Chocolate Shake
Disconnecty
Now It's On
Way We Won't
Summer Here Kids
A.M. 180
He's Simple, He's Dumb, He's the Pilot

StanM, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 11:44 (seven years ago) link

Now It's On is a jam.

dancing jarman by derek (ledge), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 12:55 (seven years ago) link

Nice!

king konta (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link

Not wowed by the new track. Sounds to me like a slightly sluggish amalgam of the go in the go for it and OK with my decay. I wasn't so keen on post-sumday material but this seems like a weary retreat.

For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (wtev), Wednesday, 21 September 2016 16:41 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Damn. RIP Kevin.

wtev, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 05:52 (six years ago) link

GoFundMe page set up to help his family pay for medical/funeral expenses, etc.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link

whoa, RIP. I hung out for an afternoon on Grandaddy's tour bus a million years ago and they were all super friendly guys.

tylerw, Wednesday, 3 May 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Wow, just found out about this. He recorded one of my band's first studio session probably a good million years before tylerw was on their bus.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 31 May 2017 05:12 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New interview (and, separately, new song video) with Jason L.

http://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2017/06/20/533045354/with-new-video-grandaddy-finds-humor-in-grief

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

new Grandaddy song, released last Month

https://www.facebook.com/jasonlytle/videos/vb.64053877826/450247192595652
https://jasonlytle.bandcamp.com/

StanM, Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

I like the new song.

afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

Sounds nice enough, haven't quite decided whether I'd throw Lytle $10 though ...

https://jasonlytle.bandcamp.com/album/the-sophtware-slump-on-a-wooden-piano

(That sounds really snarky of me, it's not really meant to).

djh, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

awwww

imago, Tuesday, 29 September 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

Whoa.. This is good! He'll get my $10 no problem.

Monte Scampino (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 30 September 2020 07:03 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Oh, it's happening as a physical item now.

http://eustore.dangerbirdrecords.com/products/677628-grandaddy-the-sophtware-slump-on-a-wooden-piano-cd-bundle

djh, Friday, 23 October 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

don't give in 2000 man

mookieproof, Friday, 2 July 2021 04:20 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZxvjMPZeZE

they kill me every time <3

imago, Friday, 17 November 2023 21:49 (five months ago) link

should never have left the crystal lake

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 17 November 2023 22:39 (five months ago) link

hope there's some sad robots on the album. but I'll buy it either way, it's what they deserve.

organ doner (ledge), Friday, 17 November 2023 23:15 (five months ago) link

two months pass...

Blu Wav is out there and it's very nice.

StanM, Thursday, 15 February 2024 22:57 (two months ago) link

such a lovely album yeah

imago, Thursday, 22 February 2024 13:45 (one month ago) link

bought it, listening now, suddenly feeling really depressed. coincidence?

ledge, Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:46 (one month ago) link

it's more melancholy than depressing to me but I can see it could be, yeah

StanM, Thursday, 22 February 2024 19:48 (one month ago) link


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