― Tom, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
It's too soon, really. My instincts tell me they're going to crap out. Still, though, I'm really liking the tracks I've heard. SERIOUSLY liking - it's like I'm listening to Radiohead or Ida or Ken Vandermark or something. Perhaps I'm finally wearing down that shield of hipster shit that doesn't allow me to unconditionally love anything that screams "pre-fab teeny bopper piffle". ("What a Girl Wants" excluded, of course.)
But, then, stuff like "Overload" doesn't sound like pre-fab teeny bopper piffle. That song sets the bar kind of high, but the other tracks I've heard don't embarrass themselves, either. And, there isn't an excessive media blitz taking hold of the US. Yet. There should be, though. (Of course, the last mechapop single I fell for - "The Call" - fell off the Billboard charts faster than an elephant without a parachute.)
But, yeah. So far, classic.
― David Raposa, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Jamie, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Tom, the charts only exist as a "capitalist marketing tool" to steal pocket money from kids and teenagers - and you know it pall!
― Greg, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Andy, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
I really loved Overload when I first heard it and thought Sugababes really were something but all that "We're not like other pop groups because when we dance we have really blank expressions on our faces and in fact we hardly dance at all and we certainly aren't going to waste our time by dressing nicely just because we're on telly" shit really bored me
― jamesmichaelward, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Tim, Wednesday, 27 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Greg, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
putting aside all the reasons for hype, the SONGS (remember those?) are a) catchy as all get-out (i've found myself singing 'lush life' and 'promises' as well as 'overload' at inappropriate moments), b) remarkably understated sonically which only serves to increase their eventual insidiousness into that part of the skull that holds on to hooks and doesn't let them go, c) remarkably mature (not 'slutty' which seems to pass for 'mature' here in the states) in a convincing way. sure there are songs that aren't great, that could be construed as filler, but come on! understated, cool catchiness is something that shouldn't be taken lightly today.
so. classic. whoever said it's going to tank in the US was sadly right, though. unless someone comes up with a vocoder-heavy trendy american remix for 'overload' -- but NO NO NO that must not happen.
― maura, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― alex thomson, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Emma, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Like "Overload" - they're not talking about pop music (thank god) or love or ... love. They want to get out of school early & take a break, unwind. The other songs, too, are rooted more in the minutae of their situations, instead of just tossing out fire/desire claptrap.
That's probably why "The Call" stuck with me - it's an atypical song, going somewhere that other songs of its sort haven't gone before. Yes, it's just a song about some boys playing off their infidelity via a cell-phone bombing out. But compared to "..Baby One More Time" or "Candy" or "I Turn To You", it's Randy Newman.
― David Raposa, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
"Pop band Sugababes denied claims that there is a clause in their contract forbidding them to smile on stage"
Classic. Must get album.
Emma, have you seen the new video? How can people with skin so shiny not be considered babes?
― Graham, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Greg, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Otis Wheeler, Saturday, 30 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
Nah - only that Irish one looks like P00. Those 2 remaining look quite tasty to me.
― Kodanshi, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Emma, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
but your knob says go/
but I'm a straight girl/
so what do I know" Someone please put some music &/or beatz behind this!!!
best etc.
― Norman Fay, Tuesday, 3 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
― Emma, Wednesday, 4 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink
is this allowed???
I was looking forward to this (arguably the greatest girl band hits album of the 2000's), but not so now that they've airbrushed out sugababes 1.0 in such a stalinist way.has any other act done this...?
i'm not entirely sure I'd notice the change, but Dammit Jim! its the principle.
― danny boy (danny boy), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:20 (6 years ago) Permalink
― LC (Damian), Friday, 9 June 2006 12:47 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Hal! Jordan! HAL! JORDAN! (Barima), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:28 (6 years ago) Permalink
yes. this happened within about a WEEK of mutya leaving - I was v impressed with their efficiency.
I probably prefer all the originals, because I've got used to how they sound, and because I really love Mutya's voice in particular (still not heard Amelle's!), but I can't see any point in getting het up about re-recording, especially now that it's been established that this endless cycle of members is What Sugababes Do.
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:40 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:45 (6 years ago) Permalink
http://s8.invisionfree.com/sugababesuk/index.php?showtopic=4195&st=0
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 9 June 2006 14:48 (6 years ago) Permalink
I have the Amelle version of "Red Dress" and it's really not that different. I've heard the original version many times so I'm sensitive to little changes, like her timing is different in places and stuff like that. It's subtle. I've never heard of groups rerecording already-released songs...I don't think Destiny's Child ever did that, and they went through their fair share of switching.
― musically (musically), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:56 (6 years ago) Permalink
I hadn't noticed before either how Mutya and Keisha's vocals on "Ace Reject" follow completely different melodies, they could have almost made it into two songs. It's like [verse a] [bridge a] [verse b] [bridge b] [chorus] [Heidi's middle eight] [bridge b] [chorus]. But so subtly done!
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 22 January 2007 07:05 (6 years ago) Permalink
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:19 (6 years ago) Permalink
― vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:23 (6 years ago) Permalink
― the Dirt (FunkDirt), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:09 (6 years ago) Permalink
Sugababes mk 1 = classicSugababes mk 2 = classicSugababes mk 3 = we'll see
― musically (musically), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:30 (6 years ago) Permalink
i was talking with frank kogan about how much potential the sugababes had for US crossover - he thinks not much, what with the teenpop market drying up and the sugababes not being quite r&b enough. i really don't know!
― lex pretend (lex pretend), Monday, 22 January 2007 17:33 (6 years ago) Permalink
that new album cover makes them looks like banarama.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 5 October 2007 10:59 (5 years ago) Permalink
how could that be a bad thing?
― CharlieNo4, Friday, 5 October 2007 11:11 (5 years ago) Permalink
its not - the new girl looks hot, keisha looks quite sexable, although heidi looks oddly concerned.
― titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 5 October 2007 11:18 (5 years ago) Permalink
-- titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 5 October 2007 10:59
TOTALLY otm. i thought exactly that. SURPRISE is your winner off the new album.
― pisces, Friday, 5 October 2007 11:37 (5 years ago) Permalink
Sugababe arrested over 'attack' Sugababes member Amelle Berrabah has been arrested after an alleged attack on a car in Aldershot, Hampshire. Police confirmed a 23-year-old woman was arrested on suspicion of causing criminal damage and a public order offence after an incident on 9 January.
She was bailed to appear at Aldershot police station on 21 February.
The pop star joined the successful girl group in 2005. Her boyfriend Freddie Fuller is recovering after being attacked with a machete last month.
The group claimed the number one spots on both the singles and album charts in the UK in October last year, with their latest album Change and single About You Now.
― Mark G, Friday, 11 January 2008 17:26 (5 years ago) Permalink
HATE HER
MUTYA 4EVER
― musically, Friday, 11 January 2008 18:24 (5 years ago) Permalink
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 11 January 2008 18:28 (5 years ago) Permalink
'Girls' (as in Here Come The) sounds like it was produced by Fatboy Slim
― blueski, Thursday, 14 August 2008 22:04 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/a135316/sugababes-glad-to-ditch-electro-image.html
once Classic,
now Dud.
― Hamildan, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 21:31 (4 years ago) Permalink
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8548338.stm
Mow Mutya want the name back!
― Mark G, Thursday, 4 March 2010 11:22 (3 years ago) Permalink
she shd call herself the sugababe aka, imo
― the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Thursday, 4 March 2010 12:04 (3 years ago) Permalink
irl fistpump for mutya, she got the name back!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/2195267.stm
― piscesx, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 18:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm a big fan of the Bucks Fizz feud.
― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Wednesday, 24 August 2011 23:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.capitalfm.com/artists/sugababes/news/deny-losing-name-mutya-buena/
Oh well. Looking forward to the gift wrap!
― Jeff W, Thursday, 25 August 2011 11:25 (1 year ago) Permalink
"First she came for the wallpaper..."
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 August 2011 11:30 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugababes_discographysingles between round round and about you now:
strongerangels w dirty facesshapehole in the headtoo lost in youin the middlecaught in a momentpush the buttonuglyred dressfollow me homeeasywalk this way
i'd side with that claim. Push the Button and hole in the head are close, but I *really* like About You Now.
― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Sunday, 22 July 2012 18:55 (9 months ago) Permalink
not looking to defend popjustice (i agree that its approach to pop music is mostly utter bollocks) but they always overhype a new single, especially when it's an exclusive to them and feel they have to big it up - I doubt they'd stand by that "about you now" claim now, or ever really believed it beyond the hype of the moment. of course it nearly always makes them look ridiculous in hindsight, but if it keeps big exclusives coming in i doubt they care.
clearly "too lost in you" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
though looking at that list their singles are probably on the whole less great than I remembered (quite a few dud choices of singles to release), in that they were much better album artists for their first two lineups.
― prolego, Sunday, 22 July 2012 19:36 (9 months ago) Permalink
though to be fair overload > new year > run for cover > soul sound > freak like me > round round > stronger is completely imperious.
― prolego, Sunday, 22 July 2012 19:44 (9 months ago) Permalink
"about you now" tends to get underrated, it's sort of flawless despite being massively derivative and unimaginative. but the idea that they had any sort of dip in between "round round" and "about you now" is just weird. "too lost in you" is a towering pinnacle of their discography, better than either, "angels with dirty faces" and "follow me home" are up there too - though perhaps it's true that their absolute best songs in the three/taller eras were the deep cuts.
― lex pretend, Sunday, 22 July 2012 20:57 (9 months ago) Permalink
Agree with the above, though I prefer "Caught In A Moment" (and also "Sometimes"!) - I love "About You Now", I just dislike the implied dismissal of many of the amazing songs in between ("Stronger"! "Hole In The Head"! "Red Dress"! "Follow Me Home"!).
Best songs on Three: "Situation's Heavy", "Maya".
Best songs on Taller: "Ace Reject", "2 Hearts".
― Tim F, Sunday, 22 July 2012 21:23 (9 months ago) Permalink
agree re: three, would choose "bruised" ahead of the others on taller
― lex pretend, Sunday, 22 July 2012 21:28 (9 months ago) Permalink
Haha "bruised" was my number three.
― Tim F, Sunday, 22 July 2012 21:35 (9 months ago) Permalink
prolego otm though some people here take what Popjustice says way too seriously.
― daavid, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:23 (9 months ago) Permalink
...I mean basically they've always had a very spontaneous approach to pop. When Peter's excited about something he doesn't care to hype it to ridiculous proportions. He's not thinking "oh, is this going to sound relevant x years from now?" etc. I don't really have a problem with that. In fact I think it is the right approach. With most pop music, retrospective evaluation is in many ways irrelevant anyway imo.
― daavid, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:49 (9 months ago) Permalink
Agree totally with Lex and Tim on Taller choices, that is probably my favourite album of theirs. Three is mostly great, Conversation's Over was always my favourite album track on there.
I used to value Popjustice a lot more than I do now. They give way too much time to the same few bands. Everytime JLS or The Saturdays have a new single they always give them way too much attention. I get that they are two of the biggest pop bands but their songs just blend into each other and they are not great popstars in anyway.
I remember losing a lot of respect for them when they claimed the last Girls Aloud album was great and put it as their second favourite album of the year, then a year later they claimed the reason they didn't give Electrik Red anytime was beacause their album was too patchy, I mean it just does not compute. They continue to say how they hate Olly Murs (with good reason) but put one of his singles in thier top ten last year and made a post saying they were obsessed with his last single. I get that they want to try and rate songs not based on the artist singing them but can't they spend more time writing about iamamiwhoiami or Dawn Richard? The way they just ignore some artists existence and coninue to write about such average acts just gets so tiring.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 23 July 2012 19:51 (9 months ago) Permalink
Was a lifelong reader until they started saying that The Feeling were good
― kinder, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 07:22 (9 months ago) Permalink
Yeah, those pics of them are utterly amazing and I am so frigging excited. I LOVED the original line-up so so much.
― Nathalie (stevienixed), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 08:54 (9 months ago) Permalink
this is one of those things that I think would be amazing, then think I'm silly for dreaming, then it happens. i love all three of them (siobhan's last solo album was flawless, mutya's last one...wasn't but that's ok) and am glad that they're back and back together.
i also used to subscribe to PJ very closely but agree that when every single and album is PROPER AMAZING POPPERS OCLOCK LITERALLY THE GREATEST PIECE OF RECORDED MUSIC IN HISTORY it makes it challenging to use them as a guide. recommendation exhaustion is a real thing. which is too bad because i heard a lot of excellent music thanks to them.
― musically, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:36 (9 months ago) Permalink
http://www.popjustice.com/interviewsandfeatures/the-full-length-actual-mutya-keisha-siobhan-interview/99561/
AFROBEATS! EARLY 90S R&B! I knew I could trust them
What do you think people will call you?Mutya: They’re going to call us the Sugababes anyway. Guaranteed.
:D
If Comic Relief came to you and said, ‘HIYA, we’d like you to do the next Comic Relief single with the current lineup of the Sugababes’, would…Keisha: (Immediately) No!Siobhan: What was the question?
…would you do it?Siobhan: Oh right! When you said ‘the current lineup of the Sugababes’, I thought, “that’s us, right?” (Amid uproar) I got really confused!
― lex pretend, Friday, 31 August 2012 11:55 (8 months ago) Permalink
awesome
― Tim F, Friday, 31 August 2012 11:57 (8 months ago) Permalink
it's great how they can cut a bitch without even trying
Mutya: A big tight ship. A YACHT!
― lex pretend, Friday, 31 August 2012 11:59 (8 months ago) Permalink
It belatedly occurs to me that they've chosen their current um 'moniker' for the precise reason that it's the only way they can guarantee no change in line-up.
― Tim F, Friday, 31 August 2012 12:02 (8 months ago) Permalink
Haha I'm reading the interview now and they admit as much.
― Tim F, Friday, 31 August 2012 12:10 (8 months ago) Permalink
Who's going to get them drunk and find out the *real* reasons behind everything?
Sugababes are one of those bands I would pay so much money to read a proper "Behind The Music" style expose of everything that went on behind the scenes.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 31 August 2012 12:16 (8 months ago) Permalink
It's just like.... BAND POLITICS is fascinating and terrifying. And GIRL POLITICS is fascinating and terrifying. So put together BAND POLITICS and GIRL POLITICS and it's a story I want to read.
― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 31 August 2012 12:18 (8 months ago) Permalink
http://www.popjustice.com/songs/mutya-keisha-siobhan-boys/
HARMONIESMUTYA'S VOICE
― lex pretend, Monday, 7 January 2013 12:56 (4 months ago) Permalink
so ace
― maura, Monday, 7 January 2013 13:58 (4 months ago) Permalink
lack of interest in new sugababes is irrefutable proof of ilx's decline imo
in other news "run for cover" still blows me away every time i listen. IT'S MY NEED TO BE FREEEEEE~~~~~
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 13:26 (4 months ago) Permalink
I still don't know who is who in this group
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 14:48 (4 months ago) Permalink
L-R in the video: Mutya, Keisha, Siobhan
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 14:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
video is badass btw, I love watching ppl who are completely in synch with each other musically sing together (a big reason why Destiny's Child could sing some of the stupidest words ever written and still be amazing imo)
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 14:59 (4 months ago) Permalink
weirdly enough a random celebrity big brother clip is one of the best testaments to mutya's ability. like, how effortlessly does she nail that?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 15:05 (4 months ago) Permalink
technically speaking, that sounds like it's squarely in the comfort spot for her singing voice (and based on the little bit I hear of her speaking voice in that clip, it's also where she talks so she's permanently warmed up on those notes); it also shows she has an excellent ear because there isn't any quavering or sliding off the pitch
btw how badly does Coolio want to record a song with her
― Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 15:16 (4 months ago) Permalink
yeah her control is insane and her timbre is even greater, it's so easily my favourite voice in the past decade of british pop
that being said it's really exciting how far they've all come vocally since one touch, and each member feels totally essential in bringing something key to the group. it feels the most evenly balanced - and dare i say talented - lineup to date i think which is really promising.
― prolego, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 22:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
oh, I'm super excited even though i completely missed out on the first wave of sugababes and only know a handful of singles.
i'm just waiting for the full song before i flip out / have something to say?
but I'm psyched.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
was "Hole in the Head" the Mutya/Keisha/Siobhan lineup and did they appear in that order on the song?
― DJP, Sunday, 13 January 2013 02:52 (4 months ago) Permalink
No, it was Mutya/Keisha/Heidi (the longest lasting lineup), can't recall what order they appeared in.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 13 January 2013 03:35 (4 months ago) Permalink
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Sunday, 13 January 2013 03:37 (4 months ago) Permalink
Keisha Buchanan@keisha_buchananI think we've made a BANGER people #studio with @devhynes #talentedbeyond http://instagr.am/p/VnXBzshd0P/
trolling Lex, very mean.
― hot young stalin (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:14 (3 months ago) Permalink
^ properly excited now!
― daavid, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 05:54 (3 months ago) Permalink
hiya it's mutya keisha and siobhan on kendrick lamar
http://soundcloud.com/bloodorange/lay-down-in-swimming-pools-by
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:34 (2 months ago) Permalink
um holy shit
― Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:44 (2 months ago) Permalink
there's pretty much no excuse for me not to go get the entire Sugarbabes back catalog, right
― Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:47 (2 months ago) Permalink
nope
― go to party leather (ENBB), Thursday, 14 March 2013 14:53 (2 months ago) Permalink
there is a reason not to get their last two albums cuz they're kinda bad
first three are varying degrees of excellent, though, then just grab "about you now" off the fifth and you're sorted
can't believe dan of all people hadn't done this already!
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:03 (2 months ago) Permalink
*first four
I kind of got stuck on "Hole in the Head" and never really moved past it
― Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:04 (2 months ago) Permalink
"hole in the head" is great but i don't think it'd be in my top 10 sugababes songs
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:07 (2 months ago) Permalink
... wau
― Darth Icky (DJP), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:07 (2 months ago) Permalink
my number one all-time favourite sugababes song is "run for cover"
that was done when they were like 15; when they were grown, they did my second favourite song by them, "ace reject"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:12 (2 months ago) Permalink
seriously their harmonies under the second chorus and through the ad libs afterwards are slaying me
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:44 (2 months ago) Permalink
TOO MUCHTOO MANYTOO LITTLETIIIIIIIIIIME
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:45 (2 months ago) Permalink
if i was POXing my fav sounds in the whole of pop music ever mutya's voice would be in there without hesitation
― prolego, Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:47 (2 months ago) Permalink
"lay down in swimming pools" has such a great sense of build - the way they hold the main hook back until three minutes, until just after siobhan's ghostly bridge, and then you've got keisha triumphantly telling you how i'mma show you how to turn it up a notch
this is just an incredibly great piece of music
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 15 March 2013 17:00 (2 months ago) Permalink