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Is there any way I can get Negativland's U2? ive searched kazaa, would you recommend soulseek? is there anyone out there who owns it willing to email it to me?

― esquire1983 (esquire1983), Monday, 3 March 2003 03:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

You can download it for free at www.negativland.com. Look under "Audio Files." It's classic.

― Evan (Evan), Monday, 3 March 2003 03:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

it's rubbish

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 March 2003 13:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

(By "rubbish" Mark means "classic".)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's fuckin' ponderous, man.

― paul cox (paul cox), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

Dan has at last cracked my code

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's clashish!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

mark it must be good, it contributed the awesome phrase "these guys are from england & who gives a shit" to my lexicon...i say that nearly every day!

― duane, Monday, 3 March 2003 14:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

yes duane, but great art = the redemption of half-baked earlier nonsense!!

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

(not that i usually make that distinction)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

(great vs half-baked i mean)

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 March 2003 14:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

i'll let you know when i get this thing out of the oven ok

― duane, Monday, 3 March 2003 14:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

Negativland roxx, Mark S is gay. Or bi or something.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 March 2003 15:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

just unchoosy ned

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 March 2003 15:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

:-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 March 2003 15:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Anyway, my vile commentary above notwithstanding, rah the new album No Business, which I waffle on a bit about here.

"PIECE A PIE? PIECE A PIE BUD?"
"No!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 May 2005 23:51 (8 years ago) Permalink

BTW for a few years now, the original tracks, plus related materials, have been available from Negativland on These Guys Are from England and Who Gives a Shit.

In their words:

Seelard Records 021 (not a Negativland release)

Negativmailorderland has discovered what can only be described as the ultimate "reissue" of the music that made Negativland so (in)famous: the two track EP originally released by SST Records featuring cover versions of a Very Famous Irish Rock Band's hit song. If you've gotten this far you undoubtedly know what we're talking about so we won't bore you with the details...

Several "bootleg" versions of our banned EP have appeared over the past decade, including some forgeries that are so well-designed that it's hard to tell them apart from the original (see our discography for details), but none of them have come even close to encapsulating the bloody history of that old release as this brand-new CD on the suspicious "Seelard Records" label. We don't even know where this "label" is located, but we were so impressed with their efforts that we've decided to distribute a bunch of copies of it ourselves.

THESE GUYS ARE FROM ENGLAND AND WHO GIVES A SHIT is an album-length collection of just about every darn gasp uttered by Negativland which relates to the notorious and banned EP, from early run-thrus of the material (taped from our weekly radio show, OVER THE EDGE), to live versions both pre-lawsuit and post, and to the actual single itself. We are amazed at the extremely high-fidelity and professional presentation of this material, which even includes the only top-notch recordings available from our "Music For Lawyers" tour of 1993 (several lawsuit-related compositions which never saw the light of day on any other "legitimate" Negativland album).
Complete track listing:

1. OVER THE EDGE 12/31/89 (excerpts) 7:59
2. Long Distance Dedication #1 (live) 6:19
3. 1991 A Cappella Mix - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For 7:15
4. Special Edit Radio Mix - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For 5:47
5. Long Distance Dedication #2 (live) 7:03
6. Copying is a Criminal Act (live) 5:07
7. Wake Up America (live) 4:03
8. The Black Lady of Espionage (live) 5:00
9. Deliberate Sabotage (live) 2:59
10. A Cappella Version - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For (live) 7:16
11. Edited Special Edit Radio Mix - I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For (may actually be played on the radio!!) 5:42

We are convinced that this overly attentive-to-detail release will EXHAUST your interest in this subject FOREVER and provide the Negativ-fan with legally impossible entertainment at the same time.

― Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Monday, 16 May 2005 13:37 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

The Onion and Negativland speak together.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 20:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

Great interview but I have stab back at Hosler's final line:

But I also couldn't imagine a group like Negativland coming out of, say, Canada. [Laughs.]

Um, John Oswald?

(I know, I know -- he was talking about Negativland, the "band", specifically and how they operated over the years, and not talking about classic found-sound artists in general, but those three words above came immediately to mind after that final line.)

― donut e- (donut), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 23:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

Also, I'm totally taking the line out of context. He was pretty much cheering on Canada as a country that does more to federally support the arts than the U.S... he just mentioned also that a lot of great bands become great bands because of trying to struggle against living in artist-oppressive-land as well. I'm not sure I totally agree with that either, but it is true to many cases.

― donut e- (donut), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 23:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

LIVE FLOPTOPS IN SEA AND OLY THIS WEEKEND BITCHEZ

Consolidated Works, Seattle (Fri 3/10, Sat 3/11) along with the Negativlandland art exhibit that debuted in NYC last year.

Capitol Theater, Olympia (Sun 3/12)

"It's All In Your Head" is the show.. same one as the ones in Ontario and the Bay Area last year.

Expect a more Over The Edge-y type thing and don't expect greatest hits although Richard Lyons and David Wills will likely be in attendance, so who knows what will happen.

I'll be at the Friday show fer sure.

― Da Na Not! (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

Wait, the Weatherman will actually be there? *jealous*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:35 (7 years ago) Permalink

I dunno. He lives here now. Negativland is in town. I can't imagine they would have just forgotten about him. We'll see.

― Da Na Not! (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

I paid for my ticket weeks ago. I'm excited. Never thought I'd get to experience them live at all. I'm going Friday too.

Is Negativlandland the art exhibit then? I got confused when I saw a link to that on the site because it looked like something that had already taken place.

― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

Yeah that's what I was thinking that maybe Weatherman will be involved since he lives here now. That would be fucking great.

― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm excited too. Again, this show will probably be very different than the previous shows where they occasionally did "the hits" (three shows here: twice in 2000, once in 1993)... so I'm just glad for a change of pace.. it will probably be more of a mental experience than anything else.

― Da Na Not! (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

― Da Na Not! (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

This fuckin' uptempo record and I've got to talk about a fuckin' dog dyin'...

― LoneNut, Friday, 10 March 2006 21:04 (7 years ago) Permalink

OK, that was one excellent excellent show.. Very different from the True/False performances from 2000, different from the Fair Use shows from 1993... but just as good as both, but very different from both. Highly planned, entertaining, and very dense... I like how this one allowed one to be able to just shut his/her eyes for a while and just hear the audio instead... they advised doing that the entire time semi-tongue-in-cheek, although the group were very entertaining to watch as they cued each other on when to do certain things and all that.

(Assuming I don't have other work priorities) I'm probably skipping Spank Rock Sat. night to see/hear this again...

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 10:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

The art exhibition was ace as well, really was. Most art exhibitions really don't do what that did for me. It really made me wish there was some way to take it with me, as did the show itself at times. I don't have a camera cell phone but last night I wished I did. I wonder if there will be any way to hear the show again later, etc.

The small David Wills installation in the back was like crumbs in front of a hungry man. My favourite part of the wall of written Wills-isms was "One thing that is very important is that you burp your Tupperware".

It did go on a bit too long I think, 3 hours, but I was also just very tired after a long workweek. Yeah I considered going again tonight too, but I've already got other plans.

― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 16:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

Also, I'm not sure I've experienced anything quite that prescient since I saw Radiohead in 2001 at the Gorge. It was that same feeling of suddenly experiencing an important historical moment as it happens.

Another thing is that I actually got lost on the way there and ended up stopping right in front of a church a couple of blocks away that had physical features of both Christianity and those funny shaped things you see on the top of mosques. Very odd.

― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 16:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if there will be any way to hear the show again later, etc.

You can! This show was the debut of the "Hey, we have 'It's All In Your Head' for sale at the merch booth" show... they're selling the limited edition double-CDs for $12 each I believe. I picked one up last night. You can also order them only via negativland.com, and those are the ONLY two ways you can get this. I picked one up, but -- after seeing this show -- will probably actually listen to it a week later, just because, well, my brain is already saturated with It's All In Your Head as it is. :D

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Haha. Yeah they definitely saturated our brains that's for sure! I looked at the booth they had there but I didn't get the feeling they were selling anything, which puzzled me. I'll probably order some more of their stuff online soon anyway. I've kinda tired out of the last cassettes I ordered from them awhile back.

― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

Also I really liked the way they were dressed. Colourful dress shirts with ties...Sometimes when they started getting musical with these electro bits, it reminded me of Kraftwerk in performance style/appearance.

― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 20:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

Furthermore, I particularly liked the way they began the show with bits of The Beatles - "Across the Universe" was it? I can't recall exactly. A conversation about God should always begin with the Beatles as far as I'm concerned.

― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 22:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

Also much later on there was a part where they finally did an electro sound that sounded exactly like the beginning of New Order's "Your Silent Face" - do you remember it? I was going to yell out "Your Silent Face!" but their material prevented me.

That was the first song I ever heard of New Order ever when I knew I had fallen in love with New Order.

― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:05 (7 years ago) Permalink

Anyway, may Bush lick up the crap of the cows he works with.

― And the air hangs heavy like a dulling wine (Bimble...), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:06 (7 years ago) Permalink

>sounded exactly like the beginning of New Order's "Your Silent Face"

if it's the track I'm thinking of (simple 2/4 plonky stomp), that's a sample of the first track on Moebius & Renziehausen's Ersatz

― milton parker (Jon L), Saturday, 11 March 2006 23:33 (7 years ago) Permalink

Well that could prove to be very useful information! Thank you sir!

― All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 March 2006 02:14 (7 years ago) Permalink

"dupaplete my Mcnothing!"

― All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Sunday, 12 March 2006 02:18 (7 years ago) Permalink

It's "exgagonizing"

"Pump gag"

― All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Monday, 13 March 2006 00:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

And you know he can't say "emanating". He can only say "enamating". I tell you that David Wills is a genius.

― All The Furniture Is In The Garage (Bimble...), Monday, 13 March 2006 00:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Exhibit opening tonight in Minneapolis:

http://blogs.citypages.com/ctg/2006/05/art_party_negat.asp

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:10 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Negativland is doing their "It's All In Your Head FM" tour near me next month...anyone know anything about it?

― Reatards Unite, Monday, 16 July 2007 00:14 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've seen it an it's freaking great. It will make you think, (especially if you are an atheist like me). You must go. Negativland are very dear to my heart, though I only really think about them intensely about once a year.

― Bimble, Monday, 16 July 2007 00:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

I've heard that Mark Hosler from Negativland will do a lecture at the ZXZW festival in Holland. Which already has a killer line-up.
www.zxzw.nl

― joost666, Monday, 16 July 2007 10:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

Bimble, I'm impressed.

― Saxby D. Elder, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 03:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

Spoke one of the organizers. There will also the premiere of a new Neagtivland film.

― joost666, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 08:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'll unite with you, reatard. Any idea what the show will be like? I'm guessing that the shows will have a similar style to the 2005 <i>It's All in Your Head FM</i> shows, but different content, right? I listen to that live release more than almost any other live release from the last five years.

Color me excited.

― Jamesy, Wednesday, 18 July 2007 16:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

Saw Hosler give his lecture last night at the Knox Museum of Art. Then everybody went to Senor Taco with him. Then bowling!

― today, i'm a numbers machine (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm envious!

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wish I had pics.

― today, i'm a numbers machine (roxymuzak), Thursday, 13 November 2008 17:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Between the return of U2 and this it's like it's their time all over again.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 March 2009 20:55 (4 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

I filed a police report today (minor thing--car got rifled through, nothing taken it seems). The officer handed me the report number and his name etc. on a piece of paper, at the bottom of which is printed "©2001 TEN-8, INC." Naturally it made me want to hear A Big 10-8 Place. Man I love this thing (every couple of years anyway).

"The door opens automatically, and the first thing you see is the orange
carpet inside 180...and you'll see the dog juice, the horrible dog juice..."

― andrew m., Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

which album/video has the Weatherman's story about fixing the playboy channel in Rossmoor?

― sarahell, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 18:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

The half-hour of sound manipulation they did at La Luz is on YouTube:

― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 25 September 2012 05:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

i have the guns cd single which has 2 versions which are good but i wish they would come out with a greatest cd collection.

― xzanfar, Sunday, 9 June 2013 00:31 (1 week ago) Permalink

still absolute solid gold

― piscesx, Sunday, 9 June 2013 02:20 (1 week ago) Permalink

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