But I mean, when someone talks about Rush in the context of prog rock, that's the phase they're referring to, right? I don't think it's crazy to make a connection to prog with the whole period from Fly by Night through Moving Pictures, which is six albums. If someone calls Metallica an important thrash band, they're not necessarily talking about "Nothing Else Matters".
3xp
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
xpost That's what I say. I say they had a prog phase, but moved out of it pretty soon.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, April 27, 2018 3:13 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I mean "Working Man" is about as gutbucket 70s hard rock as it gets
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link
"The Analog Kid" sounds a lot like "Omegaman" by The Police
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:21 (six years ago) link
Like, Yes and Genesis moved out of their prog phases too.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
excited to see how this vital question is resolved
― mookieproof, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
I mean, yes, they moved away from doing stuff like 'Cygnus X-1 Book II: Hemispheres' in the sense that the compositions became shorter, but even though they did soak up new influences, they did not entirely abandon their prog and/or hard rock influences. 'YYZ' is progressive rock, as is 'Subdivisions' ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, April 27, 2018 3:22 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the key is Rush was not prog before they were progtherefore their default state is not progit's just science really
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link
pedantic point: genesis were not prog before they were prog
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link
i've never heard the first yes album but i assume it isn't 100 percent prog either
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link
(Wasn't going to go there but, yeah, so was Yes, arguably. xp!)
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link
So, by that logic, since Status Quo were a psychedelic pop band before they were a boogie rock band, their default state is psychedelic pop.
SCIENCE!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link
there you go turrican you're getting it :)
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
I'm p sure ums was joking but also worth noting that "progressive rock" is by definition a fusion of aesthetics, i.e. not a genre that is about being 100% anything in the first place.xp
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link
I was going to make the same point about Genesis. Yes is a trickier one - their first album isn't exactly Close to the Edge but it's unmistakably a Yes record.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link
wait what genesis isn't proggy? from genesis to revelation is very 60s but i'd put it in the protoprog moodly blues camp
(unless there's earlier still i haven't heard)
i mean compare thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lUJ9f0B3jo
to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5njyO9h9Ys
there's an innate fancypantsedness to genesis even then
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link
Stewart Copeland and Andy Summers both spent time in prog bands before the Police, and Sting was even in (at least in his mind) a fusion band. By the end they were singing about Jung and dinosaurs and spots on the sun. In their early days people used to call Sting Jon Anderson, because he has a high voice. You know who else has a high voice? That's right, Geddy Lee. And Peter Gabriel, come to think of it. Ergo, the Police are as prog as they come.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link
Science.
from genesis to revelation is very 60s but i'd put it in the protoprog moodly blues camp
fair!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link
I think of The Moody Blues as "post-psychedelic" rather than "proto-prog" ...
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
Procal Harum is somewhere in that transition, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 20:45 (six years ago) link
Procol Harum, too.
Well, the Moody Blues with Justin Hayward anyway, not so much Denny Laine. I can hear 'em as an influence on the wetter end of prog - the Canterbury stuff. Procol Harum definitely part of that transitional period!
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 27 April 2018 20:49 (six years ago) link
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― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 4 May 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link
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― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 4 May 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link
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― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 4 May 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link
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― henry s, Saturday, 5 May 2018 12:50 (six years ago) link
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― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:36 (six years ago) link
Think about it!
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― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link
I heard "Manhattan Project" on the radio when I was doing a long drive a little while ago and was struck by how clear and precise Geddy's enunciation of that text came across, relative to most of what I was hearing.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link
If there's anything I want to break out into singing, it's the "Didacts And Narpets" section of "Fountain Of Lamneth"
"Stay!Go!Work!No!Think!Live!Earn!Give!Wait!Fight!Laugh!Right!LISTEN!!!"
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link
Wish that part was longer. I'm sure there's a band that based their career on it.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 5 May 2018 14:10 (six years ago) link
Years ago, Mr Big was on tour w Rush on their Presto tour, Geddy was late for soundcheck -- stick in traffic from LA to San Diego. They asked me to get up and jam w Neil & Alex for sound check, and recorded it. I played through Geddy's rig on his... https://t.co/3clsOIxrxo— Billy Sheehan (@BillyonBass) May 7, 2018
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
la villa strangiato book ii: addicted to that rush
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link
Alfred's latest "Worst Songs" post is also a celebration of one of Rush's best
https://humanizingthevacuum.wordpress.com/2018/05/08/worst-songs-ever-arcade-fires-we-used-to-wait/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link
"I think of The Moody Blues as "post-psychedelic" rather than "proto-prog" ..."
watching justin sing nights in white satin on that hall of fame thing and all i could think of was the first king crimson album. the flute! the mellotron! greg lake's justin homage!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link
procol harum in 1967 and moody blues in 1967 = most prog to come!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
'Grand Designs' came up on shuffle earlier and... fucking hell, I love this band.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link
By the way, that Billy Sheehan clip I posted, that's one of the very few times I've heard Rush playing anything but Rush songs with anybody but the core three members, let alone jamming.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link
i saw that tour. sheehan did a bass solo with a power drill
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link
I think he and Gilbert both did!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link
That may have been the last time Rush even bothered with an opening act.
I saw Primus open for Rush on the Roll the Bones tour. I think Primus toured with them again in 1994.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link
ooh, that sounds right. I wasn't sure if they traded off with mr. big behind presto.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 May 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link
I had to sit through Vinnie Moore on that tour, horific.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 23:13 (six years ago) link
I can't spell...
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 May 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link
the first big rock concert i ever went to. i made my dad take me. now i can listen to a bad bootleg of it on youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwmEQTCf8bU
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 May 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link
Jealous
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:13 (six years ago) link
I saw Primus open for Rush on the Roll the Bones tour. I think Primus toured with them again in 1994.― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, May 8, 2018 3:49 PM (three hours ago)
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, May 8, 2018 3:49 PM (three hours ago)
check the intro y'all:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ato_YTBQpu4
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:37 (six years ago) link
When I saw Primus at Lollapalooza, they played a bit of A Passage To Bangkok.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 9 May 2018 02:40 (six years ago) link