― tinobeat (tinobeat), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:00 (10 years ago) Permalink
destroy: the early stuff never really did much for me.
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:05 (10 years ago) Permalink
plus VCN EP, Super Goooooo!, Super Roots 6 and there you have it.
― gygax!, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:14 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:26 (10 years ago) Permalink
― kate, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:29 (10 years ago) Permalink
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:34 (10 years ago) Permalink
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 16:35 (10 years ago) Permalink
― A.H., Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:21 (10 years ago) Permalink
― A.H., Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:23 (10 years ago) Permalink
― gi66y, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:24 (10 years ago) Permalink
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:27 (10 years ago) Permalink
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:28 (10 years ago) Permalink
For the early stuff, search Pop Tatari first.
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:43 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:45 (10 years ago) Permalink
rave review here which makes them sound like the best thing ever (they are)
― geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:48 (10 years ago) Permalink
― sinkle m (jdesouza), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 17:53 (10 years ago) Permalink
see also ooioo, rovo, grind orchestra.... ???
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― msp, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 18:05 (10 years ago) Permalink
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 18:07 (10 years ago) Permalink
in their dreams!
after seeing vcn performed live last year my brain took about three weeks to return to 'normal'.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:18 (10 years ago) Permalink
― gygax!, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:19 (10 years ago) Permalink
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:39 (10 years ago) Permalink
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:40 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 19:43 (10 years ago) Permalink
so really my question is: on which album do i look and find that shit?
― gi66y, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:13 (10 years ago) Permalink
― gygax!, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:39 (10 years ago) Permalink
Who was the source? I was wondering how accurate that info was myself.
― die9o (dhadis), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 20:53 (10 years ago) Permalink
― gygax!, Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:03 (10 years ago) Permalink
I'd say Chocolate Synthesizer.
― dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 28 January 2003 23:37 (10 years ago) Permalink
I still remember hearing "Michidai"/"Fuanteidai" for the first time and picking my jaw up off the floor.
― Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 01:38 (10 years ago) Permalink
it is I, Frances. getting onto this thread way too late I know....um, the thing I played was Vision Creation Newsun. If you heard me on Resonance last night, I was playing Super Are, off Super Ae. Yeah, get both of these albums, and MOST IMPORTANTLY OF ALL go see the Boredoms live.
I'm sure you have been told this many a time already. But that's because it's true. Live, they have this intense aura of of gonzo wisdom that completely blows my mind (man). And, like 'stirmonster' says, DRUMS! Drums that will make you dance like a mandrill on too much ibogane.
Anyways, was good to meet you the other night! F
― FMM (Mr Binturong), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:38 (10 years ago) Permalink
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 16:41 (10 years ago) Permalink
But VCN, Super Ae, and Super Roots 7 are all untouchable. I'm liking the new Seiichi Yamamoto album too, but it's nothing like those others. (very quiet/pretty)
― Alan N (Alan N), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:10 (10 years ago) Permalink
I'm not sure what you mean by "heavier" but Soul Discharge was less "heavy" in the usual rock sense (loud guitars, pounding drums, riffage) than the early Boredoms material that preceded it, on which they sounded more than a bit like a Japanese Butthole Surfers.
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:17 (10 years ago) Permalink
― ddb, Wednesday, 29 January 2003 17:42 (10 years ago) Permalink
This may be what I'm thinking of then. Like I said, my early Boredoms knowledge is not so hot.
― Alan N (Alan N), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 20:59 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Juan (Juan), Wednesday, 29 January 2003 21:54 (10 years ago) Permalink
(I hear a lot of echoes of the Butthole Surfers here, but maybe that's because they just happen to the band closest to this sort of thing that I have listened to the most in the last ten years.)
― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 28 March 2003 15:26 (10 years ago) Permalink
― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 30 May 2003 01:23 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 30 May 2003 01:56 (9 years ago) Permalink
The super punk ethics shop won't carry major label albums.The hardcore store only carries hardcore.The indie stores only carry YYY's, White Stripes, Sonic Youth and Flaming Lips.Newbury Comics has gotten me the aforementioned albums + one OOIOO CDThe mall CD stores? HAHAHAHAHA
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 30 May 2003 04:43 (9 years ago) Permalink
The last two albums are INSANE in their greatness. I mean, I loved the noise stuff to a degree but fuck.. vision indeed.
I think those bastards are just waiting around to release a big ole Super Roots box set. Or maybe not. Either way I need all the Super Roots. Anyone that wantsta trade, please email...
― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 30 May 2003 06:36 (9 years ago) Permalink
― dleone (dleone), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:03 (9 years ago) Permalink
Where do I go from there tho? It seems thay're totally different every record they make, which is thoroughly commendable but not a little daunting.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:21 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 30 May 2003 11:55 (9 years ago) Permalink
― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 12:03 (9 years ago) Permalink
The word "heavy" has come up a lot here, and the other thread talked about "groove". The earlier boredoms had their moments of these, but would subvert the expectations these set up rather than run with them, as the more recent boredoms do. I can see why the latter might make for a more "enjoyable" listening experience. But the earlier boredoms has its own pleasures, even if they aren't related to coherence. My own feeling listening to those records is that they are like a huge disorganized messy pile of brilliant half-realized things. I'd say Chocolate Synthesizer is the apex of this. And it somehow manages to be idiotic and cerebral, funny and serious, arty and artless all at once.
The "new" boredoms go to the opposite extreme--monomaniacal intensity--which somehow makes perfect sense to me. There's an extremity and obsession in ALL their "phases", which give their stylistic shifts a coherence below their surfaces.
So, yes, some of their recordings on their own are probably worth searching over others (I'll defer to above recommendations), but this is also a band that can be appreciated in its totality and (for me, at least) transcends an easy accounting by search and destroy.
― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:19 (9 years ago) Permalink
I assume you're talking about "Super Going", that guitar tone & the Moonian cymbal wash -- that's one of my favorite tracks on the album. But then, I like Tommy too, so hey.
― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 30 May 2003 12:49 (9 years ago) Permalink
― Jon Williams (ex machina), Friday, 30 May 2003 13:17 (9 years ago) Permalink
― bob snoom, Friday, 30 May 2003 14:03 (9 years ago) Permalink
But that's part of why it's so great!
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 30 May 2003 14:13 (9 years ago) Permalink
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:38 (8 years ago) Permalink
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:39 (8 years ago) Permalink
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Thursday, 10 June 2004 19:47 (8 years ago) Permalink
― I LUV FAETTY (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 15:17 (8 years ago) Permalink
― I LUV FAETTY (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 15:50 (8 years ago) Permalink
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 15:55 (8 years ago) Permalink
― I LUV FAETTY (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 15:59 (8 years ago) Permalink
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:01 (8 years ago) Permalink
My roomie is going to be trolling for crappy music in Japan for me!
― I LUV FAETTY (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 16:03 (8 years ago) Permalink
i got to see Mr. eY3's DJ-ing. he played many goodrecords. i was looking at turntables all the time. thingshe played are... late 70's rare disco tracks, tricky andsweet arranged house tunes. all tracks are danceable.i thought his heart is really sweet.
i had a chance to talk to him once. after his DJ-ingi saw some nameless band show. when i saw them,i noticed eY3 was next to me. that's pretty awesome.it's the best show i've ever seen this year. the bandcalled "flying rhythms" is three member. one drummerplaying drums and e-pad, one percussionist fromsenegal playing djenbe, conga and some africaninstruments, and one is dub mixer. their sound issupper cosmic. you can hear a sample from theiralbum hear.http://www.lastrum.co.jp/flyingrhythms/i'm sure you like this sound. just wanted to tell youabout this band. thier 1st album was released abouta week ago. it's produced by yamabe keiji who hasa great record store named los apson? in tokyo.i don't have yet. but i will buy next weekend.
oh maybe i might be going to see DJ eY3 nextsaturday. if i could, i'll try to talk to him. he should befriendly, i think.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 1 July 2004 15:45 (8 years ago) Permalink
― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 17:57 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 18:30 (8 years ago) Permalink
― adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 18:34 (8 years ago) Permalink
― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 22:56 (8 years ago) Permalink
WTF? wait til i pop 43 bucks? dammit.
― peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:13 (8 years ago) Permalink
― RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:20 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Alex in TCBY (ex machina), Wednesday, 6 April 2005 14:28 (8 years ago) Permalink
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 May 2005 05:13 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 26 May 2005 12:06 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― JW (orion), Thursday, 26 May 2005 16:41 (7 years ago) Permalink
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― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:01 (7 years ago) Permalink
― The Sensational Sulk (sexyDancer), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:07 (7 years ago) Permalink
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 26 May 2005 17:09 (7 years ago) Permalink
instead i cleaned my entire apartment.
― jane (jane), Thursday, 26 May 2005 22:12 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 May 2005 07:19 (7 years ago) Permalink
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 27 May 2005 15:06 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Thursday, 28 July 2005 09:12 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 30 January 2006 03:22 (7 years ago) Permalink
― solarblue (solarblue), Monday, 30 January 2006 03:39 (7 years ago) Permalink
I don't have as many Boredoms albums as I should? I only have... four of them.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Monday, 30 January 2006 04:20 (7 years ago) Permalink
Can someone please ysi the track from the fish covers comp. Tanx.
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 30 January 2006 04:26 (7 years ago) Permalink
― Zaireeka Badu (NickB), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 16:01 (11 months ago) Permalink
I asked Dean Ween about Z-Rock Hawaii:
A- I get asked this so often that I figured it’s time to answer it. Way, way, back (like in 1993) Andrew Weiss took me to see Boredoms first in Philadelphia, and then again in Hoboken a day or two later. They were the heaviest band I had ever seen since the Butthole Surfers, but on a similar level of psychedelic transcendence with a Japanese point of reference that was unlike anything before or since. Last time I saw them a few years ago they were just as heavy and still evolving. At the time not a lot of people knew their music stateside, but the singer of the the band Yamatsuka Eye had released a solo album full of samples of “The Pod” so we knew he was a fan. After meeting at these 2 shows we arranged for him to come to our studio (we were working on “Chocolate and Cheese” in Pennington, NJ) and he stayed with me and my family for about a week. His English was minimal at best and he spent the whole time at my house roughhousing with my border collie Jimmy, which I loved. He couldn’t get enough of Jimmy, throwing the ball, chasing the stick, it was incredible to see and Jimmy loved it, being a Border Collie and all. Not being able to really communicate in the studio was an advantage, we tried anything and everything. He spent time inventing contraptions to sing through, like an Evian bottle as a megaphone taped to a snare head with the other side mic’ed up with vibrating snares, shit like that. He was an animal on the microphone. One night he and I were driving home at 3am and a deer jumped in front of my little Nissan. I totalled the car and the deer lay dead, steaming in the road. Eye was going batshit, I dunno if he’d ever seen a deer in person and I was laughing my ass off, it’s pretty typical around here to run into deer and I hated the car. Anyway, after he left he went back to Japan and the Boredoms wrote the second half of the album and mailed it over to us. We overdubbed our tracks and that was that. Eye named the band “Z-Rock Hawaii” which was the most perfect name in the world for the record. In the studio it was just me, Aaron, and Andrew Weiss and Eye. I think Claude may have played some drums on there too actually. We did some 4-tracking at my house which I’ve never been able to find for some reason.
― frogbs, Friday, 11 January 2013 21:36 (4 months ago) Permalink
Haha that's great!
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 January 2013 21:40 (4 months ago) Permalink
I've always wanted some Boredoms vinyl, not even anything in particular, just whatever i can find. Just looked it up on Amazon and holy crap is it expensive.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 January 2013 21:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
Eye and Jimmy forever
― mizzell, Friday, 11 January 2013 21:41 (4 months ago) Permalink
Love it.
― the dyspeptic Hirax (Jon Lewis), Friday, 11 January 2013 21:55 (4 months ago) Permalink
Also, I have an Omoide Hatoba 7" fucker.
― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Wednesday, June 9, 2004 12:26 AM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Which one is it? Check out i just found this sweet music video for his "Sugar Clip":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsFcHtrAlBM
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 11 January 2013 22:11 (4 months ago) Permalink
EYE Q&A re: Z-Rock Hawaii—August, 2009
How did the Z-Rock Hawaii project come about?I don’t remember exactly, but I loved Ween so I was really excited when they talked to me about it.
What do you remember about working with Ween? How was the music composed and recorded? Did you actually perform in the same room with them?I was staying at Mickey’s house. I’m pretty sure it was the house they called “The Pod." Andrew was the engineer. I don’t remember exactly how we wrote the songs, but I remember it being fun.
Were you a fan of Ween before you met them? What do you enjoy about their music?Of course I was a fan. There’s something natural about their music. Something really laid-back and spontaneous.
Since Z-Rock Hawaii was recorded around the same time as Chocolate and Cheese, do you remember hearing anything from that album before it was released? If so, what was your opinion of the material?Unfortunately I didn’t get a chance to listen to it back then.
Do you have any other impressions of Chocolate and Cheese? Was it influential to the Boredoms at all?I’m not sure. I really love it, but I don’t know if it had an influence on the Boredoms.
Do you notice any general similarities between Ween and the Boredoms?Maybe it’s that we’re all geeks? (I hope that doesn’t sound rude.)
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 11 January 2013 22:18 (4 months ago) Permalink
kind of odd that he snubbed Jimmy
― frogbs, Friday, 11 January 2013 22:28 (4 months ago) Permalink
Live video, 1988. Not a typo:
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2013 16:49 (4 months ago) Permalink
There are a horrendous number of cuts in this video but this was the best Boredoms show I've seen (out of more than a dozen).
― Troughton-masked Replicant (aldo), Monday, 14 January 2013 17:04 (4 months ago) Permalink
You guys are the best!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 January 2013 18:50 (4 months ago) Permalink
That ATP performance was incredible.
― Five days left to vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 02:39 (4 months ago) Permalink
I really, really wish they'd have released an official live recording of the drumkits + vox + electronics + guitar fence lineup by now. That volume of Super Roots with the choir kind of playing the electronics role comes closest but doesn't match the exhilaration of the shows I've seen.
― the dyspeptic Hirax (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 15:54 (4 months ago) Permalink
absolutely - I saw them in 2009 and the material was all new and really amazing, but I fear it'll never be captured on an official recording
― frogbs, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 16:30 (4 months ago) Permalink