Rosanne Cash, classic or dud?

If only Shania Twain and Mutt Lange could write songs as good as this. They're the only ones out there who approximate the sound of this record.

"Interiors" is a fine, fine record (got it used for $2.50), but the absence of guitars and synths make it a less compelling listen.

she's slowed down but she hasn't stopped. her most recent one came out in 2003. but, yeah, she was better way back when blah blah blah, "seven year ache" blah blah blah. her last couple have been kinda boring blah blah blah.

but ... carter/cash family: best family bloodline in the history of music? are there any challengers?

Myself, I just have the SEVEN-YEAR ACHE album, which I like a lot, but I haven't followed her career that closely. Didn't know until I read this thread that she started doing confessional, hookless, singer-songwriter music. Seems like everytime some alt-country singer turns up, if they start out good they later wind up doing the singer-songwriter thing, which is a bad move. That's what fucked up Neko Case.

Anyone heard the new album?

*Black Cadillac isn’t really about the Cash family at all; it’s about everyone’s family. It’s about how each one of us becomes an orphan eventually, about how our ancestry shaped who we were before we were born, and about how the connection between parent and child can never truly be severed by death, whether there is a life beyond the grave or not. Walk the Line was fine (although Rosanne’s depiction of the blossoming romance between her parents is a needed tonic to the movie’s skewed portrait of Vivian), but Black Cadillac rescues these people from the bonds of myth and restores them to humanity.

The sound of Black Cadillac reflects the balance between emotion and intellect in Cash’s words. Half the album was produced by Cash’s husband (and frequent co-writer) John Leventhal and half by Bill Bottrell, best known for his work with Sheryl Crow and Michael Jackson. The tracks alternate one-for-one: Bottrell’s are coiled and edgy, with a hard pop grit that recalls Cash’s classic early-1980s work, while Leventhal’s are more relaxed, dominated by acoustic instruments. The effect is one of tension and release, an inhalation and exhalation that suggests the seesaw between duress and acceptance in the grieving process.

Just as Black Cadillac is musically balanced by its dual producers, it is pulled together conceptually by Cash’s eye for recurring details: the songs are filled with images of flowers and water, and their narrators are frequently disembodied, dead or not yet born.*

But R. Cash seems neither C nor D. Middling.

"Blue Moon With Heartache" -- perfect melancholia.

Listening to "Rainin'," "Hometown Blues," and other gems from Seven Year Ache. She direly needs re-evaluation.

concur 100%

Implied it upthread, but as the missing link between punk, country, and L.A. studio rock she should be blasted from every car stereo. She's so simple in her effects that I'm not surprised she's underrated.

she was a total godsend in the 80s. Seven Year Ache and Kings Record Shop are classics. great live performer too. saw rosanne and lucinda w on the same bill once in central park -- no comparison.

Kings Record Shop would easily be in my top ten of all time.

I think I put Hits on my iPod before flying across the country. Will listen tonight.

"i don't know why you don't want me." swoon.

saw rosanne and lucinda w on the same bill once in central park -- no comparison.
I was at that show too, lovebug. Rosanne went out of her way to praise Lucinda's songwriting, singling out for special mention the song that mentions a casserole. It was the beginning of the end for me.

lol

Most pop should sound like "Never Be You" and "Halfway House."

or "I Don't Know Why You Don't Want Me"

I like the Drifters homage "The Way We Make a Broken Heart."

Rosanne on Sarah Palin:

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081027/cash

Anyone bought The List yet?

Read folks whose views I respect say that it was too stiff and mannered and so I can't even bring myself yet to find it online or listen to a sample. Still curious though!

she duets with Springsteen, Elvis Costello, & Jeff Tweedy and uh, Rufus Wainwright. how about giving some work to some lesser known singers Roseanne, hm?

it's nice but not interesting. she sounds good, the songs are obviously good, but there's no real surprises in the choices and even less in the arrangements and execution.

about what you'd expect, basically.

her recent albums (by that i mean since 1988) are srsly boring.

This is her Raising Sand.

I'm listening to Rhythm & Romance for the first---I knew the big singles from various greatest hits compilation, but whoa @ "Halfway House": huge distorted chords (plus the solo!) plus Cash's voice in piercing form. And "Pink Bedroom" is almost as good, with a really great lyric ("She paints her fingernails forbidden tones / She wants nervous youth on the telephone").

I read a bit about this period earlier: evidently she spent much of the first half of the eighties doing "truckloads" (her words) of cocaine with Rodney Crowell, and then went into rehab in 1984.

Agreed -- "Halfway House" is top five Cash. "Never Alone" is another goodie (all the songs with "never" in the title are terrific).

huh, "Pink Bedroom" is a John Hiatt song. I don't know anything about his music.

She also covered Hiatt's "The Way We Make a Broken Heart."

yes, "Never Alone" is on now, and it's great too: a Vince Gill co-write. Earlier I listened to part of a bootleg from 1983 (I wanted to hear the cocaine in action) and Vince Gill sings backup on "Seven Year Ache". It's a good performance, pretty fast as you'd expect, and Cash sounds brittle.

Yeah, "Somewhere, Sometime" is as nervous as the best of 1981, but there's more weight to it than she could have pulled off in 1981 I think.

"Rosie Strike Back" is the one I play all the time.

4 country #1s from this album!

are the bonus tracks any good? I only have the original cd.

OK live tracks. "707" too.

I'm almost finished reading Rosanne Cash's memoir, which is fascinating. She's a really fine writer.

I'll bet that is really good! I'll add it to my list.

Reading the memoir now. I didn't realize she and her dad were always so close; I'd gotten the impression they only reconciled in the last ten years.

<3 her so much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX2nWIUWl2E

I saw Rosanne and her band play her new album The River & The Thread straight through live at the Library of Congress last night, then they did songs from her last album The List.

The new album live was pleasant enough though it did not wow me.
Cash and guitarist husband John Levanthal recently traveled the southern states and spent time in Arkansas helping to restore the boyhood home of her father, Johnny Cash. She threw in all kinds of lyrical mentions of the south-- Emmett Till, Robert Johnson and the Crossroads, some ones I knew less about(a spot in Arkansas where there was an earthquake way back when).

Some of the additional covers she did (which sounded better crafted than her her new stuff. Although since it was my first time hearing the new stuff I guess i need to give it another chance when the album comes out):
Long Black Veil"
"I'm Movin' On"
""Girl From the North Country"
"Ode to Billie Joe"
"Heartaches by the Number"

Among all the Southern Americana talk and lyrics, Rosanne briefly mentioned between songs that she was going "to bow to the audience after every song just like Elton John did when she saw him at the Garden last night"

So far, seems like new albums got three really good originals in the middle ("Night School" is awesome)(a fourth, "Tell Heaven", is a welcome stylistic exercise). Haven't received the two covers yet, by Townes Van Zandt and Jesse Winchester (might be some special edition). Looking fwd to her vocal presence x their songs, and wish she didn't depend so much on her own writing here --songwriting, that is; I got more from her memoir in the new Oxford American.I dunno; I'll keep listening. She's still got the voice, for sure.

I liked how some of the new songs sounded when Rosanne played them the second night of her residency at the Library of Congress, with hubby Leventhal on guitar, ex-hubby Rodney Crowell also on guitar and vocals, Amy Helm on mandolin and vocals, and Cory Chisel on vocals and guitar.
They also sang together "The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down," "I'll Fly Away," and more.

Found out tonight that she released her first album in Germany only, even though three of its tracks later appeared on Right or Wrong (which is what I'd always assumed was her first album).

Listening to it now. She's still a little green in 1978 for sure, but it's totally decent work.

I've got her book. I guess I should read it sometime soon, huh?

So many books to read...I never got to this one either

anyone catch her four-night stint with Emmylou Harris and Lucinda Williams?

It was easy coming up with a top twenty-five.

i know people tend to take or leave interiors itt but idk, the line between it and king's record shop isn't so defined for me! "land of nightmares" and "paralyzed" give me end-of-the-world chills.

anyway i have a real hard time picking my favorite rosanne record between it, king's, and rhythm & romance

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/25/659621031/first-listen-rosanne-cash-she-remembers-everything

i am really enjoying this

last four songs are absolutely crushing

duet with elvis costello and kris kristofferson about gun violence kinda stops the album dead at track three but maybe i'll get used to it

Between Pistol Annies and Alex Anwandter I've forgotten Cash. What's the sound? No hope of hearing loud synths, right?

no of course not. sound is still trapped in interiors/the wheel. the writing is sharp as ever

Ends with a cover of that True Detective S2 "My Least Favorite Life"! (No synths.)

i keep wanting to make a poll for king's record shop but also wonder if anyone would vote

i also picked up her memoir when i was in nashville and i'm gonna read it as soon as i finish doctor faustus (soon) (i hope)

Just got “7 year itch” on vinyl and it’s great

Her memoir's good but like all eighties survivors she has different standards about what works: she's contemptuous of Rhythm and Romance, often to my ears her second best album.

i expect no artist to have the same ideas about their work as i do

The memoir's best when she addresses her dad. She's a solid writer.

Rhythm and Romance is the best new wave album.

Rhythm and Romance is the best new wave album.

hah yeah, I was just taken by "Never Be You" and of course listened to the whole album as a result, and now put it on again. Every song expresses anxiety from a distinct perspective. "lovers all have to stand trial" indeed.

The guitars here stomp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihyHTKqBU5Q

yes, that's the song playing right now on this second playthrough of the day. I'm guessing she wrote it after receiving "Never Be You" from Petty & Tench, since the choruses sound alike.

Never knew about her crazy health problems before she made The List. Also, did she ever find “The List”?

next album, but "Runaway Train" is so beautiful. I can hear Springsteen recording it...or even her dad on one of those latter day albums.

We haven't even talked about this one, a perfect song from the flickering synth to the conceit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4aQPFM1shc

oh man "Halfway House" is fantastic. I think about all the drugs she was taking in this era, and how bad her life sounds in these songs (even if a writer doesn't talk about her own life necessarily, we know how her relation with Crowell ended up): this is more effective than just say no.

Am I the only one who found Crowell didn’t really add much as a talking head in the Ken Burns Country doc?

He didn't.

Seemed like he was there mainly as a member of the extended Cash family, similar to Hank Jr.’s daughter, even though he commented somewhat vacuously on Guy Clark and such, and maybe on Emmylou Harris as well, although I can’t recall an incident of this latter.

It all went down
On the inside

i keep wanting to make a poll for king's record shop but also wonder if anyone would vote

― american bradass (BradNelson)

do it, ivy!

Yeah do it!
Getting to be that time of the year for her cover of "Biloxi"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDhV5SscEgc

Listening to The Wheel this afternoon (happy birthday to Rosanne!), it's still as unsettling to hear as ever. I usually think what it would be like hearing an album like this made by a partner at the tail end or aftermath of our relationship, but I'll also wonder what it would be like to have a grown-up child making an album like this and how distraught I might feel listening to it.

(like you've done your best to raise them and guide them through life, but still there's only so much you can do for them and at the end of the day they have to experience the same pains as most people)

Never listened to that one.

She has the same birthday as Bob Dylan.

Archie Shepp too. May's been an impressive month for birthdays, and I only noticed because back in April, I decided on a whim to just listen to anyone or anything celebrating a birthday or release anniversary. (I figured it would make it easier to pick what to play on any given day.) I was surprised that Brian Eno, David Byrne, Jonathan Richman, Robert Fripp, Bill Bruford, Joey Ramone and Pete Townshend among others all had shared birthdays or birthdays within days of each other as some combination of them travelled within the same orbit. Same goes for here re: Cash and Dylan.

I met Archie Shepp's son last week, but we did not discuss his father's upcoming birthday.

Her autobio, Composed, is exemplary for taking us through early life w formidable parents, sans psychobabble and excess melodrama, then her father astutely gets her a job w CBS Records in London, where she starts making her own connections. The rest is personal life as context for record life, and vice versa. It's exemplary, and she says her husband wants her to do a sequel, Decomposed, but it hasn't happened yet, alas.

Yeah, she takes us through, album by album, at just the right pace (ditto kid by kid).

Sounds like something I would like to read, thanks.