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The 1st 3 albums are often held up as avant garde/electronic classics. But are they actually any good?
'Games Without Frontiers' is a classic , but 'Biko' i dont think i could listen to due to the mauling Simple Minds gave it. Both are from '3'.

Jimmy Smith, Tuesday, 24 December 2002 13:05 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think Gabriel ever wrote a song that was without flaw. I loved "And Through the Wire" and "I Don't Remember" .. but there was always something missing or some added element of cheese ... Albumwise, there were always some duds on his records, so ... OK, I'll say it: "Overrated."


dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 13:16 (twenty-three years ago)

First album I think is great and well worth hearing, though he was still trying to find a consistent solo career style. I was listening to it for the first time in a long while earlier this year, and though the music I feel still holds up well, the lyrics do not, filled with the (rather corny, IMO) puns he made in Genesis.

Anyway, "Moribund the Burgermeister" is a great, weird number, but there's also not much separating it from past work. "Modern Love" is a no frills rock tune, very much no way he would play something like that today (sadly; he could use an injection of livelihood on his last albums), "Excuse Me" is a semi-comic relief number with barbershop quartet opening. "Humdrum" is also very Genesis-like, but I think it's the best tune on the album.

The second album I've actually never heard, in all my years of being a fan. I keep meaning to pick it up, especially since everything's been remastered. People say it's pretty underrated...

I never really liked his third album, myself. The songs just never really clicked with me, except maybe "Intruder".

Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 15:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Everything up through the quizzically named SECURITY (a title which Garbriel claimed he had nothing to do with) is great. After that? FEh.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 16:11 (twenty-three years ago)

i've never listened to any of them EXCEPT "Biko"

i've never heard the simple minds version, but Robert Wyatt covers it, and beautifully at that

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Pretty much what Alex said except change "great" to "good."

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 24 December 2002 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I always got the feeling that his first three albums are like Big Star's albums or watching Citizen Kane. You've by now heard it all before in other bands.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 December 2002 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think Gabriel ever wrote a song that was without flaw

For me, "San Jacinto" and "Rhythm of the Heat" come damn close...

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 25 December 2002 05:04 (twenty-three years ago)

five years pass...

So!

"Red Rain"!

roxymuzak, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah man, I have totally been on a Red Rain trip of late. Just can't get away from that song at all.

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

Listened to it driving through the farmland surrounding Bristol, VA in bright, bright sunlight following a hotel morning today. 100% arcadian.

roxymuzak, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

Listen to the sound of the drums before the break!

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

xpost

Fantastic! I grew up in VA.

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

I <3 Daniel Lanois 4-ever.

roxymuzak, Sunday, 9 March 2008 20:35 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, "Red Rain". "Mercy Street" too. Something about that line: "swear they moved that sign."

It's funny, because I was browsing YouTube and had just finished watching this when I saw this thread. These two have always struck me as two sides of the same coin, both following a particularly English trail of slightly ethereal slightly mad overflowingly creative whimsy.

Lostandfound, Monday, 10 March 2008 01:46 (eighteen years ago)

Peter looks so young there!

Were he and Kate ever in a romantic relationship with one another? I thought I remembered reading this, but I can't find anything confirming it. I must have made it up.

roxymuzak, Monday, 10 March 2008 04:07 (eighteen years ago)

Doesn't he? I'm not sure, but it would be kind of weird, like siblings making out. Which is also creepily awesome in their case (and only in their case, right?).

Lostandfound, Monday, 10 March 2008 04:50 (eighteen years ago)

aaaaaaahhhhh! It's the performance of "Another Day"! I haven't seen this in awhile. WOW. Thanks!

Bimble, Monday, 10 March 2008 05:09 (eighteen years ago)

No really, this has made my night. Oh my god.

Bimble, Monday, 10 March 2008 05:10 (eighteen years ago)

I know. Mine too.

Lostandfound, Monday, 10 March 2008 07:10 (eighteen years ago)

New album is called "Big Blue Balls"!!

King Boy Pato, Monday, 10 March 2008 07:11 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Here Comes The Flood

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 28 February 2009 22:57 (seventeen years ago)

http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn306/Floridian_20/GabrielCatII.jpg

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:03 (seventeen years ago)

IS HE GOTH OR NOT? LOOK AT THAT PICTURE!

He's going to marry Kate Bush and they're going to rein as king and queen of the desert island. And we're all going to be happy. Just you wait.

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:25 (seventeen years ago)

Peter Gabriel is even more heavenly than Brian Eno, and that's saying something.

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 28 February 2009 23:36 (seventeen years ago)

Here Comes The Flood

― Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You)

Here comes the late-night revive of the borderline goth thread by drunken Bimble, amirite?

ilxor, Sunday, 1 March 2009 00:22 (seventeen years ago)

hahahahah too right

Sleep Tundra (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 1 March 2009 03:45 (seventeen years ago)

Still More Goth Than Your Cat's Asshole (Bimble), Sunday, 1 March 2009 10:58 (seventeen years ago)

HCTF = epic

cutty, Sunday, 1 March 2009 13:15 (seventeen years ago)

whoa kate in the clip

cutty, Sunday, 1 March 2009 13:35 (seventeen years ago)

As good as that is, the version on Fripp's Exposure is ten times better.

I saw PG live on the So tour, which was some big poppy stuff amid a lot of other stuff I didn't really get. And yet it was still a quasi-religious experience, although I couldn't really tell you why.

mitya, Sunday, 1 March 2009 13:36 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

san jacinto KILLIN me right now

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

BLAST FROM THE PAST:

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 2 April 2009 17:20 (seventeen years ago)

Is it just me, or does Pete look more than a little like Ed Helms in that HCTF clip?

The Wild Shirtless Lyrics of Mark Farner (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 April 2009 18:26 (seventeen years ago)

SAN JACINTO
SAN JACINTO

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 08:20 (seventeen years ago)

Just to take me to heaven on that live album, goddamnit, wings, take me...take me there

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 08:21 (seventeen years ago)

Solsbury Hill.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Monday, 6 April 2009 08:29 (seventeen years ago)

three months pass...

HERE COMES THE FLOOD

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Tuesday, 4 August 2009 16:11 (sixteen years ago)

three months pass...

"White Shadow" is awesome! Are there any other songs in this world where pedal steel sounds so epic?

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Thursday, 5 November 2009 18:24 (sixteen years ago)

not a rhetorical question btw

we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Thursday, 5 November 2009 18:27 (sixteen years ago)

four years pass...

Passioni: walloping beats, Fairlights backing violin lines, something called "Arghul drones," * a boys choir singing "With This Love," a track called "It is Accomplished" waiting to become a pop song. I love this album.

* I learned much about music by studying Peter Gabriel instrumental credits.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:04 (twelve years ago)

It's a good'n'.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 02:06 (twelve years ago)

five months pass...

Sharing "your eyes" with a stranger at a bar

calstars, Saturday, 27 September 2014 03:39 (eleven years ago)

It must be hard holding that jukebox up over your head.

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 27 September 2014 05:03 (eleven years ago)

one month passes...

Someone tell Axl that it has been 12 years since the last Peter Gabriel album of original material.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 November 2014 14:30 (eleven years ago)

he said recently maybe he'll be done soon. yeah right!

akm, Friday, 7 November 2014 14:54 (eleven years ago)

five months pass...

PG is part of a group that teaches the world how to take better videos when filming brutality as a firsthand witness.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/teaching-citizens-shoot-better-video-witness-brutality/

pilate is my cogod (Crabbits), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 00:58 (eleven years ago)

Aw he's a good guy

Birdy ost is my favorite pg album now. No words just vibes for miles.

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 01:23 (eleven years ago)

eight months pass...

Has Gabriel ever spoke about Gary Brooker from Procol Harum as being an influence? Listening to A Salty Dog right now and man sometimes the melody and phrasing and even tone of his voice reminds me of Gabriel (or I guess it could be an coincidence or even vice versa as they are essentially contemporaries)

Amira, Queen of Creativity (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2015 21:31 (ten years ago)

He supposedly has brought him up as an influence, though I don't know when/where. At the least Brooker (and most of Genesis, a couple of years later) all went to Charterhouse.

And, ha!, I've never heard this before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct_R6CPD5-o

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 14:35 (ten years ago)

So as a record for eight-year-olds kinda jibes with my feelings about PG.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 25 May 2024 12:26 (two years ago)

lol what

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 May 2024 12:45 (two years ago)

Kids Bop version of Mercy Street

Are you addicted to struggling with your horse? (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 25 May 2024 15:44 (two years ago)

in your daddy's arms

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 May 2024 16:26 (two years ago)

what 8 year old wants to sing "we do what we're told to do"

you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 25 May 2024 22:05 (two years ago)

Not gonna happen in this century

sawdust lagoon, Saturday, 25 May 2024 23:24 (two years ago)

So I listened to So a lot when I was 8 or 9 because every kid loved the Sledgehammer video. And it was one of four CDs my parents owned (the others were Brothers in Arms, Equinoxe and Marriage of Figaro)

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 25 May 2024 23:50 (two years ago)

All I remember about Peter Gabriel when I was a growing up was thinking he was the middle-aged guy who crooned "In Your Eyes." Later on when I found out he was in Genesis (who I associated with "We Can't Dance") and saw a picture of them back in the '70s with Gabriel in complete make-up and costume, it was like "wuuuut?"

birdistheword, Sunday, 26 May 2024 17:14 (two years ago)

seven months pass...

Fun little gem dropped on his Bandcamp subscription today -- a rough 1981 studio mix of "I Go Swimming" with the vocals.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 January 2025 03:56 (one year ago)

two weeks pass...

New rarity up for the subscribers:

This version of Biko, was recorded in June, 1980 with The Looking Glass School, in Wellow, Somerset.
The school, formed in 1979, was an arts and crafts focussed primary and middle school founded by the British-American artist Jann Haworth, a leading figure in the British Pop Art movement and pioneer of soft sculpture.
Haworth is also the co-creator, along with her then husband Peter Blake, of the The Beatles 1967 Sgt. Pepper’’s Loney Hearts Club Band album cover and is an advocate for feminist rights, especially for the representation of women in the art world.

“I’d known Jann and Peter and their alternative school and I was very interested in the way they experimented with education. I kept in touch and was invited to do a project with the kids which is when this version of Biko was recorded" - pg

Recorded at Crescent Studios and Wellow School, Avon, Somerset on 11 June 1980.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 17:12 (one year ago)

Didn’t know he had a Bandcamp???

Dialysis Den (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 29 January 2025 18:51 (one year ago)

Yeah Real World set one up a long while back and his solo catalog has been on there forever, plus he's been using it via a subscription service to share out both rarities and new tracks -- he dropped everything from i/o on there month per month before its release. We talk about it all upthread!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 19:04 (one year ago)

I think I ignored those since I’m not really interested in his current music but I’m game for rarities from the vault.

Dialysis Den (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 29 January 2025 19:24 (one year ago)

i/o is really good, its insane it got like no critical attention

*The Anime\(*^β^*)/ Ring (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 29 January 2025 19:59 (one year ago)

It definitely didn't help to release it after the tour, which prematurely drew most of the attention.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 20:00 (one year ago)

three months pass...

I am not used to this feeling of not being able to hear something I want to. I think it's a good thing?

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 2 May 2025 15:51 (one year ago)

Are you talking about his follow up to "i/o," on track for a 2031 release?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 May 2025 16:57 (one year ago)

Ha. I meant that Biko version. But that works too.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 2 May 2025 21:28 (one year ago)

one month passes...

Been continuing to drop more older rarities via Bandcamp; meantime, he'd been releasing one song a month for a while from a 2003 fan club show, and now a slightly edited version of the whole thing is up (this removes various song intros and there might be one extra track, but I'd have to double check)

https://petergabriel.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-big-room

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:19 (eleven months ago)

Correct! This was the subscriber album: https://petergabriel.bandcamp.com/album/lunatics-in-the-big-room, that did not have Darkness.

StanM, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:26 (eleven months ago)

A little bit of bonus for both! (As a subscriber I got both the separate songs and this new version so win-win.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 June 2025 17:31 (eleven months ago)

one month passes...

https://petergabriel.com/news/live-at-womad-1982-announced-2/

StanM, Thursday, 7 August 2025 15:37 (ten months ago)

They don’t use the classic font on the record sleeve!

dinnerboat, Thursday, 7 August 2025 16:41 (ten months ago)

the text is in the wrong place too

StanM, Thursday, 7 August 2025 16:46 (ten months ago)

.. I love this. Because all these songs were still unknown to the audience at the time (PG 4 would only be released a couple of months later) this sounds more live than the polished versions on Plays Live.

StanM, Friday, 8 August 2025 15:17 (nine months ago)

but they cut out Shosholoza (between The Rhythm Of The Heat and Kiss Of Life)

StanM, Friday, 8 August 2025 15:38 (nine months ago)

Iirc Plays Live features lots of studio fiddling and overdubs, as is Peter's wont.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 August 2025 16:43 (nine months ago)

I spent zero time with the album proper but it bears repeating that the Dark Side mix of “Road To Joy” is really peak PG. The expensive Chapman stick groove on the verse followed by the organ stomp release after Gabriel wails “Walking down the road to joy” in the chorus is really everything I want from him.

By contrast the Bright-Side mix shows how much these big So-like productions rely on getting all the elements just right. That version feels like it just misses and it’s hard to say why as it’s just as overstuffed.Perhaps just leaving a little more space for Levin matters.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 16 August 2025 06:19 (nine months ago)

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xkTWLR8vLE

Maresn3st, Friday, 12 December 2025 20:44 (five months ago)

Trying to ride the dual-language version coattails of Nena, Falco and the Beatles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmjnK4zTBhM

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 December 2025 20:57 (five months ago)

A 15 minute video to explain that Peter Gabriel recorded an album in German?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 12 December 2025 21:08 (five months ago)

here comes the dud

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 December 2025 21:14 (five months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0zQaWEvUKo

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 December 2025 00:30 (five months ago)

two weeks pass...

Announcement via his subscription service just now:

I’m delighted to say that tonight, at the full moon, we will be beginning another year of full moon releases under the name o\i.

The songs are a mix of thoughts and feelings.

I have been thinking about the future and how we might respond to it. We are sliding into a period of transition like no other, most likely triggered in three waves; AI, quantum computing and the brain computer interface. Artists have a role to look into the mists and, when they catch sight of something, to hold up a mirror.

These are my lumpy bits – i/o: the inside has a new way out and o\i: the outside has a new way in.

We are not, and have never been, the exclusively self-determining, independent beings that have been given the run of the world. We are something else, a part of nature, a part of everything and feeling a connection, shaking our booty and giving and receiving some love can help us find our place - and put a big smile on our faces.

Some of these songs are going to form part of the brain project that I’ve been exploring for a number of years, and some just make me feel happy. I hope you like them.

I'd like to say a special thank you to all the full-mooners who have stuck with us through this time. In the period in between the records we've been more focussing on older, archive demos and different versions, and now that will shift back with o\i into stuff around these twelve songs...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 January 2026 16:53 (five months ago)

he'd been teasing new album all week with oblique images that looked like Os and Is, glad suspicions were confirmed.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 2 January 2026 17:53 (five months ago)

In the period in between the records we've been more focussing on older, archive demos and different versions

Wait, what does this mean? Did I miss him releasing a bunch of archival stuff?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 January 2026 18:42 (five months ago)

yeah he has been posting loads of archive stuff on bandcamp the past year

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 2 January 2026 18:58 (five months ago)

Was fun hearing "I Have The Touch" in Marty Supreme for the first time in decades.

the way out of (Eazy), Friday, 2 January 2026 19:15 (five months ago)

a favorite of Bill Haley in the mid '50s.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 January 2026 19:16 (five months ago)

yeah he has been posting loads of archive stuff on bandcamp the past year

Huh, anything good?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 January 2026 19:24 (five months ago)

I'm not a subscriber so I lost track! But they are all listed out here. many alternate mixes, early mixes, works in progress, etc:

https://petergabriel.bandcamp.com/subscribe

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 2 January 2026 20:58 (five months ago)

Live at Womad and In the Big Room both got standard streaming-only releases, and they are more than worthy. That Womad set is exceptional actually; professionally recorded (with studio overdubs at the time so presumably considered for release back in the early 80's).

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 2 January 2026 20:59 (five months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb-sOCk6BP4

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 3 January 2026 19:18 (five months ago)

Low-key but a groove.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 January 2026 19:28 (five months ago)

It’s good! I was all in on I/O so I’m overjoyed about this.

Davey D, Saturday, 3 January 2026 20:12 (five months ago)

four months pass...

So, five songs out so far on this and it certainly hasn't created the discussion i/o did. Thoughts?

I think it's ... fine. Nothing is offending me, but none of it is really surprising me very much. A tad dull, which I guess makes it, in general, kind of disappointing. Best song so far is Put the Bucket Down.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 21 May 2026 15:25 (two weeks ago)

New album? Had no idea, which itself is a tad shocking. Does he still have a label? Publicist? Promotion person? Anything?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 May 2026 15:49 (two weeks ago)

yes? it's the slow rollout he did with the last album all over again. new song every full moon.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 21 May 2026 16:58 (two weeks ago)

Oh, I see, I misread your post. For some reason I thought you were saying you had heard the first five songs of the album *so far*, as in, a listen in progress, not that PG was five songs into slowly releasing the new album.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 May 2026 21:36 (two weeks ago)

ah ha.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 21 May 2026 22:31 (two weeks ago)


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