The Monkees: Classic or Dud?

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According to the search, this vital question has never been asked. I think they were stone genius which probably couldn't have existed without the Beatles but was about five hundred bazillion times more entertaining. How can you deny the genius of tracks like "Pleasant Valley Sunday", "Words", "Last Train To Clarksville", "Randy Scouse Git", "Star Collector", "Girl I Knew Somewhere", "I'm A Believer", "Goin' Down", "For Pete's Sake", "She", "Mary, Mary", "What Am I Doing Hangin' Round", etc etc etc.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

shit, you even have to ask? CLASSIQUE. until 1970 or so. "sweet young thing" is my personal favorite.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

"sweet young thing" = drone pop before just about anyone else.

your null fame (yournullfame), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

Absolute CLASSIC but you'd have to be a pretty strong anti-Beatle to find them more entertaining. Name some Monkee girlfriends!

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

Headquarters was fantastic .. but "Daily Nightly" is a great song with Moog - I always wished The Fall or Pere Ubu would cover it.

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

monkees are grebt.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

I've been thinking of doing this for ages - in fact ever since we had a discussion about the first use of the Moog in pop. (Can't remember the thread - sinkah might). Can't remember the track - ha! It was either Daily Nightly or Star Collector.

Anyway, back to the question - Classic, of course. My favourites would have to be Headquarters (You Just Might Be The One/Shades Of Grey/For Pete's Sake/Early Morning Blues and Greens), and PAC+J (Salesman, Door Into Summer, Pleasant Valley Sunday, What Am I Doin'..), but I love virtually everything they did.

Favorite Monkee : Micky Dolenz.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

NO! Mike Nesmith!!! Weren't Daily Nightly/Star Collector on the same recod anyway?

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 14:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

the monkees invented hip hop. search: "zilch" & "mary mary".
the monkees invented punk & boy bands. search: "stepping stone", "daydream believer" & the template for both the sex pistols and the backstreet boys.
the monkees invented music videos. not just because of their TV show, but mike nesmith invented the precursor to MTV anyway, for real.
davy jones forced david jones to invent david bowie.

there's a wicked davy jones can't dance thread on the "i hate everything" board, by the way.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 15:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

for a bubblegum band, the Monkees had a strange aptitude for haunting, yearning sounds, mostly carried on Mickey's beautiful white soul voice. Through the filter of 35 years, a lot of their stuff has developed the same poignant and elegiac feel that the Carpenters are regularly praised for.

"As We Go Along" is so perfect it almost makes me swoon, particularly when coupled with the footage from "Head" of Peter walking into the snow. Even after Nesmith and Tork had left they could still achieve moments like "Ticket on a Ferry Ride", a shivering, crestfallen lament that matches up to anything from the early years. In between was a lot of fun and possibly too many syrupy Jones ballads.

the Monkees are everything!

pulpo, Wednesday, 18 December 2002 15:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

**Weren't Daily Nightly/Star Collector on the same recod anyway?**

yes, but I can't remember which was recorded first.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 16:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

Classic, as long as Mickey, not Davey, is singing lead. Davey sings crap. Best song in the world: "(I'm Not Your) Steppin' Stone"

Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 17:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

Classic, I think, though I don't have much desire to hear them most of the time, so maybe not that classic.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 18 December 2002 18:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'll go with Nick A. Mickey was the shit. Though Davey does have "Daydream Believer" and "Daddy's Song" to his benefit.

Pool it!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 19:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

I want so bad to say "dud", but good God their songs are catchier than herpes in a whorehouse.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 19:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

What's with the Davy-hate? Yeah, he was pandering to the heart-throb set, but he sings lead on "Valleri" (home of the most self-consciously fiddly guitar solo EVAH), "Star Collector", "Daydream Believer", "Look Out! Here Comes Tomorrow", and "A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 19:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

wow i like something that dan perry likes! what a strange day this is turning out to be already.

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 19:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

YAY! The Monkees = ILM's great equalizer! (I'm amazed that there hasn't been an outbreak of Monkee-hate yet.)

Secret fantastic Monkee's song: "Your Auntie Griselda". How many Peter songs are there, anyway?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 19:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

I think Anutie Griselda was it, except for Zilch ...

Davy hataz need to listen to "Early Morning Blues and Greens" ..
..My steaming coffe warms my face/ I'm disappointed in the taste ...

..but in general, yeah, I fuckin' hated Davy Jones. Mickey & Mike were the band...

dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 19:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

that song "daily nightly" off the "pisces/aquarius/capricorn/jones" album is psycho-delphic!

doorag, Wednesday, 18 December 2002 21:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

dr c it wz a byrds thread, i think

fritz you forgot: mike nesmith's mum invented tippex

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 18 December 2002 22:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

You mean Liquid Paper?

The 33 1/3 Revolutions Per Monkee documentary was a trip.

call mr. lee (call mr. lee), Thursday, 19 December 2002 01:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

The records, of course being manufactured pop, are not particularly immune to filler and otherwise bits of bad taste. But for the most part, I'd say classic. And the film "Head", as well as the accompanying ost, is superb.

And if you haven't heard "Zor and Zam" - from "The Birds The Bees & The Monkees" - do so at once. They do a SPOT-ON imitation of "White Rabbit" by Jefferson Airplane, and Dave (I believe it's him singing it) sounds so much like Grace Slick it's scarey. Shivers are sent to my spine just thinking of it.

Adam Bruneau, Thursday, 19 December 2002 02:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's Mickey. The albums they controlled didn't have too much crap on them.

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 December 2002 04:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

My Top 5:

1) What Am I Doing Hangin' Round?
2) Daydream Believer
3) Sometime in the Morning
4) Love Is Only Sleeping
5) Look Out Here Comes Tomorrow

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 19 December 2002 04:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

The live version of CircleSky = none more punk!

Rayas Blancas, Thursday, 19 December 2002 09:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

other peter songs - "for pete's sake", "do I have to do this all over again". both fantastic.

pulpo, Thursday, 19 December 2002 10:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Last Train to Clarkesville has been written & we can only live with our own imperfection" - Robert Forster

Classic of course (apart from "Listen to the Band")

bham, Thursday, 19 December 2002 10:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

And how imperfect they were.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 19 December 2002 11:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

They're not bad but I never listen to them. Actually they're pretty much the worst group I'd still say was good - they're kind of like the VU in that they invented everything but it still doesn't make their songs all that great.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 19 December 2002 12:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

Which song is it from Head that has the lyrics "You say we're manufactured/To that we all agree"? I remember thinking that was much more brutal that "Public Image".

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 19 December 2002 13:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

Leave it to a Carter fan to say the Monkees songs are not that great.

Nicole (Nicole), Thursday, 19 December 2002 13:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

The only band I ever listen to on vinyl (mother's old records). One of the all time greats, obviously, why can't all bands be as good as that? Seriously, all manufactured bands should be this good- you get the best band members, best session musicians, best lyricists... and you get something as deific as "Pleasant Valley Sunday". Nowadays... well, we don't.

The TV show was cack, though.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 19 December 2002 13:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Pleasant Valley Sunday" is smarmy.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 19 December 2002 13:21 (10 years ago) Permalink

"(I'm Not Your) Steeping Stone" is very much overrated, especially in its Proto Punk role- it's just a slightly poppier Garage Rock tune that happened to get covered by The Sex Pistols.

The Monkees are endlessly fun to analyse, but pretty uneven as far as pure listening enjoyment goes fer me. Even the Rhino best of has a few stinkers (I mean, "I Wanna Be Free", wtf?)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 19 December 2002 17:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

I was in the car with my mother once and the radio had a little interview snippet with them about how "Last Train To Clarksville" was intended as commentary on Vietnam. (They were opposed, I guess.) It was the most political they could be without upsetting the suits. My mother and I listened to the song and tried to figure out how anyone was ever supposed to pick up on that. She said it certainly didn't seem political at the time.

Chris P (Chris P), Thursday, 19 December 2002 23:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

Monkees = good music/great tv
what since has dared?

horace mann, Friday, 20 December 2002 04:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

I've been playing "auntie grizelda" a ton lately...such a fine song. the only monkeys songs I have are on my gf's tapes from when she was a youngster.. . I have to get some.

anyhow, definitely classic. I for one like the tv show, though I've only seen the same 4 episodes over and over again. I approve of Head.

nick ring (nick ring), Friday, 20 December 2002 06:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

Best connection ever: Listen to the Monkees' "Sweet Young Thing" and then Loop's "Heaven's End"

Chris Barrus (xibalba), Friday, 20 December 2002 06:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

i must get head at the video store.

di smith (lucylurex), Friday, 20 December 2002 08:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

Whenever I say that they throw me out...

Prude, Friday, 20 December 2002 08:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

Gonzo from crawlspace gave me head once, it was great!

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 20 December 2002 08:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Private joke that which prob Di didn't even get

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 10:31 (9 years ago) Permalink

No, she would've actually.

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 10:33 (9 years ago) Permalink

Listening to "Birds Bees Monkees" now, "The Poster" is a pretty funny idea, the Beatles did "Mr Kite" so let's do a song about a circus poster too

Mr Mime (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 10:50 (9 years ago) Permalink

A Monkees thread without a single mention of Neil Diamond?

shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 16:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

classic when rodney bingenheimer sits in with them

ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

The non-Tork songs from Head are beautiful of course but my aboslute favorite, and I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, is Randy Scouse Git from Headquarters. I've always thought of it as in the vein of,though superior,to most Kinks songs. Dolenz' lead vocals on the track are furious and fun. The song has a neat structure as well, nice old-timey piano intro and outro, contrasted sharply by the punk rock chorus.

theodore fogelsanger, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 21:44 (9 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
(Way after the fact I know, but Theodore I mentioned "Randy Scouse Git" in the question text!)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:39 (8 years ago) Permalink

hh my...so you did. well I'm sorry I neglected to notice that but I don't regret going slightly further into the subject of Randy Scouse Git's greatness.

herbert hebert (herbert hebert), Saturday, 14 August 2004 04:04 (8 years ago) Permalink

And he was in my favourite joke in a Monkees ep.
Man on horseback: Water my horse!
Davy Jones: I'm not a stable boy!
Man on horseback: I don't care about your mental health, water my horse!

Viva Brother Beyond (ithappens), Thursday, 1 March 2012 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://open.spotify.com/user/djperry1973/playlist/1On2wqSUL6d5g3QVuBafYo

All of the Monkees singles according to Wikipedia

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

RIP. My favorite song atm is "Cuddly Toy".

I discovered the Monkees when I was first getting into the Beatles and my little brothers had gotten into them too but had moved on to other groups from the era. They had a few VHS tapes of the shows and my mom still had a bunch of old Monkees LPs. I got the "Head" movie because my idol Frank Zappa was in it.

Oh to live in the 60s, when even 'manufactured' pop acts rocked and were trippy.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^ lookit Jann Wenner!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

listening to all of these songs just reminded me of how much I love "Porpoise Song"; Davy's doubling on the lead-in to the chorus and his harmony line always jumped out at me as a special detail of that song that elevated it

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Didn't realize until recently that "Porpoise Song" was written by Carole King!

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 March 2012 18:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/01/opinion/browne-davy-jones/index.html

A mostly good article that has a spectacular implosion at the end.

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Friday, 2 March 2012 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Davy Jones didn't die for our integrity sins, but the Monkees' reputation has suffered plenty for them."

say wha?

face depalma (stevie), Friday, 2 March 2012 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha I kind of skipped over that sentence because of how clumsy it is

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Friday, 2 March 2012 17:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Finding out that I quite like Instant Replay and The Monkees Present. Lots of Boyce and Hart, lots of Nesmith, the Davy stuff with Bill Chadwick, Micky's "Little Girl" - nice records on the whole. I never listened to them before - I guess because I just looked at the covers and figured they were just product coming from a band on its way out. The covers didn't suggest anything to me beyond that. Now I see what they are, though. They're a band that treated albums as collections of whatever was around that would come out every six months or so with artwork that was more like commercial design (in a good way - both of those covers are quite attractive) than fine art or whatever most rock record covers were at the time. I really like this model - a band that's working and that you can really follow. They also toured in '69 and made TV appearances and stuff.

timellison, Saturday, 3 March 2012 05:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, I sort of forget how many Monkees records there were. Up through The Monkees Present is eight LPs between 1966 and 1969! Plus two seasons of a TV show, a feature film, and of course touring and all that. Pretty super intense version of music as a gigging job, without any of the street cred that comes with being a "proper rock band" etc. You can see why Tork bailed.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 3 March 2012 06:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Their run on the Billboard album chart for '66-'67 is amazing. The Monkees hits #1 on Nov. 12/66, about two months after its release. It stays there for 13 weeks, until it's replaced by More of the Monkees for the next 18 weeks--31 straight weeks at #1. Herb Alpert takes over for a week, and then Headquarters becomes their third #1 album in seven months. It only stays there for a week, giving way to Sgt. Pepper's by a band many dub as "the new Monkees."

clemenza, Saturday, 3 March 2012 14:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

is there a good thorough monkees anthology i should pick up that doesn't have, like, EVERYTHING but hits most of the high spots, incl. album tracks? or should i just put that together myself?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, 4 March 2012 02:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was talking to a few baby boomers about The Monkees and I'm pretty surprised that "I hate them cos they're fakes" is still something people hold against them. Are you really upset that Glen Campbell or Neil Young is playing guitar rather than Michael Nesmith? That a member of The Wrecking Crew is playing drums rather than Micky Dolenz? That they're singing songs by Harry Nilsson and Carol King?

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 4 March 2012 03:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

which is why boomers are the fucking worst ppl in human history

q: are we not women? a: we are divas! (m bison), Sunday, 4 March 2012 03:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

awww

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Sunday, 4 March 2012 03:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

in the aggregate
I mean just scientifically

q: are we not women? a: we are divas! (m bison), Sunday, 4 March 2012 03:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Didn't realize until recently that "Porpoise Song" was written by Carole King!

http://soundcloud.com/almostbetterthansilence/monkees-demos-porpoise-song

buzza, Sunday, 4 March 2012 03:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

covers of the songs king wrote/co-wrote in the 66-69 period are my favorite thing ever

buzza, Sunday, 4 March 2012 03:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wow that is awesome.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 4 March 2012 03:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

I was talking to a few baby boomers about The Monkees and I'm pretty surprised that "I hate them cos they're fakes" is still something people hold against them. Are you really upset that Glen Campbell or Neil Young is playing guitar rather than Michael Nesmith? That a member of The Wrecking Crew is playing drums rather than Micky Dolenz? That they're singing songs by Harry Nilsson and Carol King?

Wow, real vintage first-world problems these. Even some critics are still towing the old party line. For the longest time, the AMG Monkees bio was by Richie Unterberger, who was mildly condescending towards the band up until the section on the the revival, where he gets nastier. I remember in particular his swipes at Rhino for reissuing the catalog with something along the lines of "the sensitivity one associates with Charlie Parker outtakes". The bio has been replaced, but they still have his Missing Links reviews, all of which reach a "some nice stuff, but really who cares?" conclusion.

I also recall a review in one of the old AMG books of a Box Tops comp by another writer that had several Monkee disses thrown in.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 4 March 2012 04:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

holy crap, that King demo! that's great!

re: compilations - I came in through the double-LP "Then & Now" best-of from the 80s. It has basically all you need if you only want one Monkees thing in your collection, although of course I can quibble over alarming omissions, especially since it does favor the singles or would-be singles and thus leaves out things like "Your Auntie Grizelda" which were in there to sustain their wacky-antics vibe from the show but are also totally awesome in their own right. There might be better comps now...

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 4 March 2012 05:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

This is my favorite Davy lead on a Monkees song, a B-side between Instant Replay and Presents:

Friend and ilxor J0seph McC0mbs noted this was Paul Williams' first major songwriting credit.

(Sorry the bad quality and flanging.)

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Lol you weren't kidding about Unterberger:

Missing Links, Vol. 2

Nineteen rare and unreleased tracks that, like the rest of the Monkees' output, ranges from excellent to insufferable, with plenty of mediocre material between. The highlights are the sprightly pop-rocker "All the King's Horses" (a 1966 Mike Nesmith original) and alternate versions of two of the group's best singles, "Words" and "Valleri." These alternate takes aren't exactly better, but they are definitely different and less elaborately produced. Most of the rest is either lightweight 1966 pop/rock or weedy 1968 Mike Nesmith country-rock tunes that foreshadow his solo work; several cuts are alternate versions of songs that were hardly notable efforts in the first place. An exception is the live 1968 recording of the unusually forceful Nesmith original "Circle Sky," which was featured in their movie Head (although a studio version was substituted on the actual soundtrack album). Odds and ends like an instrumental banjo piece by Peter Tork and a Spanish Christmas carol are pleasant but inessential. A thoughtfully compiled CD, it nonetheless really gives this group more respect than they're due by treating these artifacts with such importance.

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

unterberger is such a narrow little shit

buzza, Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

is there a good thorough monkees anthology i should pick up that doesn't have, like, EVERYTHING but hits most of the high spots, incl. album tracks? or should i just put that together myself?

Amateurist I liked this comp when I bought it about 10 yeras ago:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Definitive-Monkees-Limited-Edition/dp/B000059QC0/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1330854443&sr=1-9

But, you know, the first five albums are available for eleven quid in the uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Original-Album-Series-The-Monkees/dp/B003097AAQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1330854443&sr=1-1

glumdalclitch, Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

That King demo is so wonderfully spooky. Thanks for posting that.

Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Sunday, 4 March 2012 09:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

; )

buzza, Sunday, 4 March 2012 10:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pretty sure I found out about this song from ILX. Davy's channeling of Grace Slick is super spooky (0:43).

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 4 March 2012 15:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

^^^ that's Mickey.

Ham House showdown (Dan Peterson), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

holy shit re: the Carole King demo

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Monday, 5 March 2012 17:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

Changes is pretty good, too, if you like things like Kasenetz/Katz records or the Archies. It's Jeff Barry, Andy Kim, and Bobby Bloom - obviously, those guys bring a lot to the table. Davy didn't like it apparently. He seems to have gotten himself into an even more difficult situation with his contract with Bell afterwards, although I haven't heard those records (except for "Girl," obviously!).

timellison, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Peter Tork piece.

timellison, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 03:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

that is excellent

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Avoid the comments section, as per usual..

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think this should be the case for ANY article online, unless you really want to stoke any feelings of misanthropy.

It was a really nice story.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

David came bouncing over to me and yelled above the volume, "WE'RE GONNA FORM A GROUP!"

Love this.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

and this:

Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

holy shit re: the Carole King demo

― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Monday, March 5, 2012 11:56 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i have two CDs of king demos, they are ace.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have not watched the sitcom in close to 40 years -- is it amusing? Less or more surreal than Green Acres?

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

also can we talk about great tunes from king's psychedelic period?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 19:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have not watched the sitcom in close to 40 years -- is it amusing? Less or more surreal than Green Acres?

― Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, March 7, 2012 2:30 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's...okay. People can overstate how anarchic and zany it is; it's definitely more Help! than A Hard Day's Night, but if you did say "what do I imagine a network TV weekly episodic version of Help! would have been like," it's slightly better than that. And the songs are good. I'm going to a Davy tribute night next week where they're showing Head and some selected episodes; I'll report back afterwards!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 7 March 2012 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

I had thought Tork was in bad health...? I'm glad he's well enough to do this. I thought the thread revive might be a Tork RIP or something about Nesmith's upcoming London shows.

Your sweet bippy is going to hell (WmC), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 17:36 (9 months ago) Permalink

maybe a year late, Nesmith?

Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 17:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

DAVY JONES HOLOGRAM.

Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

"This seems like a good time to do this – the right time" (now that Davy, who I hated, is dead)

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

yeah hard to miss that subtext there

keeping things contextual (DJP), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:42 (9 months ago) Permalink

Missed the quote marks on DL's post at first glance, and was thinking he said now is a good time to see a reunion, now that Davy's dead. He *was* my least favorite of the pre-fab four, though.

Ermahgerd Thomas (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 8 August 2012 18:53 (9 months ago) Permalink


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