Neu! - Classic or Dud?

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As you may already know, Astralwerks reissued the first three Neu! albums a few days ago. I know they're legends, but are they one of those bands that gets talked about more than they actually get listened to?

Being the gigantic tool that I am, I bought Neu! 1 the other day, and I can't stop listening to it. I'm very surprised at how well-produced it is; it sounds like it could have been recorded a matter of weeks ago, and that's not hyperbole (as far as I can tell!).

So, is their legendary status deserved? Which Neu! album is your favorite and why? By the way, feel free to branch off and discuss Neu!-influenced bands; is the influence that apparent, or is it just force of habit to say, for example, "Stereolab's Neu!-inspired soundscapes" or something like that?

Clarke B., Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Must purchase first album right NOW! But for NEU! '75 already classic. What I love about that album is the two faces: first 3 tracks slowish ambient (Leb'Wohl being one of the most sun-kissed tracks ever) last 3 tracks total chuga-chuga I'm a train-on-speed rockmusik. I always like Motorik more than Krautrock as a genre name.

Influences? Stereolab at times very obvious (but hey give it a nice spin). Other than that? D.A.F. probably. And then through them and Liaisons Dangereus you could trace an influence to Detroit Techno. But I don't think those guys were directly influenced by NEU!

The Fall maybe?

Omar, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I still haven't bought the re-releases, so I'll refrain comment on whether they're any better than my poorly made, scratched boots.

But what *will* be interesting, will be to see if their cult status is re-appraised in the light of the increased availability of their material. I'm not saying the *only* reason they've reached the status they have is cause the records are so damned hard to find. (clearly that's rubbish) But it will be interesting to see how people react.

masonic boom, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

you know who sounded a lot like Neu! but no-one seemed to pick up on it, was the Clean. i didn't pick up on it myself actually, the NZ rock critic russell brown pointed it out to me & *then* i was like, oh yeah o-course, *obvious* influence. it's more obvious now post- Snapper (with Snapper being a Clean relative & the 1st few Stereolab records rippin' off that groove just as much from Snapper as from Neu!) ('cause did Stereolab know about Snapper, hell yeah, 'course they did, their 1st bass player was a dude from this town).
so is this a C. or D. q.? OK, double mega classic. which album's best? doesn't matter, theyre all the fuckin same.

duane, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

To me the fact that Neu and Dud can co-exist in the same sentence implies that God is disinterested, or malevolent, or that it's true that the universe is as contingent as a soap bubble. The world just seems like a more brutal and alien place.

Emily, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

It s interesting to think of that band using that technology way back then. How many bands today make similar total leaps of technology, as opposed to just workin g within the current framework of rock.

Mike Hanley, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

My friend who works at the local liberal rag just wrote a nice article on Neu! and their recent reissues. Check it out.

bnw, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

What about Cluster?

tarden, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Clean and Snapper, yes -- also, Bailter Space, quite a lot of it has a motorik touch. "I'm in love...with these times..."

As for Neu themselves, almost disgustingly classic, if you will. I remember a friend saying in 1993 or so, "You like Stereolab? You need to hear these guys." Things made a lot more sense after I did.

Speaking of Stereolab, friend ML saw them at an early show and pegged the heavy-duty Neu influence, and asked them about it after the show. Apparently they weren't just surprised that someone had twigged it, they hastily broke off talking with him and went away as if somebody had just released an atomic bomb. About six months later they started admitting it in interviews.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Although I only heard Neu! for the first time two days ago when I got my hands on the reissues, totally classic. I can say this with conviction because it's obvious that they've influenced a zillion other acts along the way: in 1971 they recorded an album that sounds like Stereolab did in the 90s, and I already thought Stereolab was classic (still are, for where they went with it, even though it no longer sounds so original). It also puts Kraftwerk into better perspective, as you can now see that both Kraftwerk and Neu! were two halves of the same thing. As for the collectability of the original material, bah. All I care about is being able to finally hear it. Yay!

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

You know what's interesting? No one mentioned D.Bowie. Cuz at the * time* — by which I mean time of Low/"Heroes" etc — he and B.Eno mentioned Neu! a *lot*, and it became a standard-issue fing to say: these two records are "influneced by Neu!"

And you know what? They're not. At least, I've never heard it.

mark s, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Funny you should say that:

http://www.astralwerks.com/neu/quotes.html

Bowie himself says at most the influence on his music was 'tenuous,' but clearly he loved it, and says he wanted Rother to play on _Low_.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Everyone and his sister ripped off Neu! as we all know. The funniest similarity for me has always been "Hallogallo", the twangle (twang!) of which can clearly be recognized in Alien Sex Fiend's "Now I'm Feeling Z". Classic!

Simon, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Damn, I just bought Neu! 2 a couple of hours ago, and it's knocking my socks off as I write. I really wish I had known about these guys sooner; however, it is exciting to be discovering them now. I'm actually sort of depressed that there's only one of their albums (well, reissues at least) left for me to get...

Speaking of Cluster, is it pretty impossible to track their stuff down, like it was with pre-reissue Neu! stuff? I will (can) not spend 40 dollars on a piece of (possibly scratched-up) vinyl, either... :-)

Clarke B., Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I did a search on Cluster at gemm.com, which links together the stock lists of loads of record dealers and there are lots of copies of the CDs at affordable prices. I love gemm.com.

Nick, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I never understood why people complained about the difficulty of finding Neu! material. I think it is more an issue of being cheap or lazy, rather than difficult. There have been many Japanese import bootleg versions of their albums available throughout the 1990's. Granted, they were expensive, but never elusive.

As for the Cluster material, most of that material has been reissued through All Saints(if I am not mistaken.) Most everything by the good german prog bands was reissued/bootlegged in the 90's. You might have to hunt, or pay higher prices, but it is out there.

Michael Taylor, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I've always wondered - is Neu! pronounced Noi, Ner or Nu?

scott, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Till now: Noi

From now: Ner

mark s, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Well EXCUUUUUUUSE ME, Michael, for being cheap and lazy! Not all of us have unlimited funds to spend on low-sound-quality bootlegs, though, and some of us have to pay for things like COLLEGE and GAS and CAR INSURANCE--so, basically, piss off. But thanks for the response.

Clarke B., Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Clarke, if you were any kind of a music fan at all you would be STEALING FROM YOUR COLLEGE in order to get more records. Duh. :)

Josh, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

well yeah, cause 'i'm in love with these times' was first a Clean song. neu seem to get reissued every few years, last time around my friend andrew insisted upon their greatness but i can't being myself to agree. musicology.

keith, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Finally I get to hear Neu! I'm working my way through the albums in chronological order, buying them one at a time, which I've found helps me to absorb new music better than if I get two or three at once. Anyway, yes it's great. Initially I thought that I could live without the more experimental tracks (2, 4 and 6), but now I'm finding more and more in them to like. The way the album is sequenced, the motorik groove tracks seem even more driving because of the freeform interludes. I love great intros, and Neu! contains one of the best - the intro to "Negativland" is terrific - first a road drill makes way for (sinister?) clapping and cheering, then a small orchestra tuning- up mutates into a jet engine woosh before bass and drums fire up the groove. A lot of Factory bands must have heard "Negativland" and "Weissensee" (Section 25, Joy Division, A Certain Ratio, Tunnelvision)

I guess "Hallogallo" is the "Stereolab" one. No denying the close similarity, particularly the stabbing wah-chords which Tim Gane seems very fond of.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

So finally I get to hear Neu!1 and it's pretty amazing. The guitar playing is excellent throughout the album, very minimal, almost - sorry mark s. just one more influence game ;) - proto MBV.

And Dr.C nails it, 'Hallo Gallo' is the only real Stereolab track, every time I expect Laetitia to start singing: "We're bored/with the dialectic/of the masses/and space/bah-bab-bah-bab.

Omar, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Got Neu 75 at the weekend - pretty much agree with Omar's comments at the top of the thread. Side One (tracks 1-3) is utterly blissful. Still finding my way with the second half of the album, but it's looking good. I kinda miss the road drills from the debut though.

Dr. C, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

I bought Neu 75 last week and have barely listened to anything else since. The last time this happened was with DI Go Pop, so therefore pretty obviously a huge classic. As others have remarked the division between the more ambient stuff on side one and the heavier proto-punk side two works really well.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

Finally picked up these reissues, replacing my old vinyl boots. Miss the gatefold sleeves of course, but glad the packaging sort of preserves the mystery and doesn't feature sleeve notes/quotes from 'celebrity admirers' like Damon Albarn etc. The re-mastering (whatever) sounds GRATE to my ears - never heard 'Fur Immer' (first track on 'Neu! 2') sound quite so punchy before. Now if only somebody would reissue the first La Dusseldorf alb (Dinger's project after Neu!) - it's on a par with the Dinger side of 'Neu! 75'. Domestic cd pressings of the two Harmonia albs would be welcome, too.

, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (13 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
I feel like a bad person because I like Kraftwerk and David Bowie but I can't listen to Neu 75 for the life of me. Is there any hope?

Lindsey B, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

None. You are evil and must leave.

(Did I say this up-thread? D.Bowie said "Neu! Neu! Neu!" abt ten trillion times in 1978-9 but he never sounded like em once.)

mark s, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Maybe Mr. Bowie was influenced by Neu! Just because an artist is influenced by someone else doesn't mean they'll sound a lot like the influence in their music. However,I am evil, I'll give you that much.

Lindsey B, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

(Isn't Neu75 the one even Neu fans hate anyway?)

You may be evil but your theory of influence is better than many (ie quite like mine haha). Biggest influence on [x] = ppl they HATE and exactly DON'T want to sound like.

mark s, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

1st 3 Neu! are up on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s right now for those cheap such as myself.

conny lingus, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

With ref to my post of July 6th, went into Selectadisc yesterday and found the first La Dusseldorf alb on Japanese Import CD (legit issue on Captain Trip) for a semi-measly £10.99! Snapped it up, sounds fantastic (last track 'Time' bears uncannily similarity to Tom Verlaine's 'Breaking In My Heart', recorded some years later - coincidence?) Anyway, any new Neu! fans searching for another/similar fix (let's not mention Stereolab) really should snap one up if they see it...

Andrew L, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

Ooooh. I'll be down to Selectadisc after work tomorrow then.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (12 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Neu! are phantastic. I wrote something on their 1st record in my blog, if anyone's interested.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 18:47 (11 years ago) Permalink

Overrated. I got their 1st album (finally) a few months ago. Not awful, but I found it screamingly dull considering all the hype they get...

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 20:05 (11 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...
Neu! and Neu! 75 are amongst my favourite albums, but Neu! 2 seems far more patchy.

Is it worth checking out the live recordings? I've heard the sound quality is very poor, and theyre usually around £20-£25.

dmun, Thursday, 24 March 2005 11:09 (9 years ago) Permalink

Neu! 75 is pretty incredible.

You hear their influences everywhere. Hell, Wilco's "Spider" features a classic driving Neu! beat.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 24 March 2005 12:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

There's a CD featuring a 1972 rehearsal that gets okay about 40 minutes in, but the fidelity is horrible and it's really fanatics only. Dinger put it out (along with the paperthin Neu! 4 album, based on a weekend jam with Rother in 1986) on Captain Trips in response to the CD boots of the first three albums in the 90's.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Neu4.htm
http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Neu72.htm

The best tapes are the Kraftwerk live boots with the Schneider / Dinger / Rother lineup, right before D&R spun off to form Neu! An appearence on the TV show 'Beatclub' called 'Rückstoss Gondolero' and the live in Cologne tape, June 12th 1971. They were all collected on a vinyl bootleg called 'Ruckzuck' last year. The Cologne tape is ultra-low-fidelity but the music is incredible.

milton, Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:11 (9 years ago) Permalink

Neu! 4 is NOT worth getting (and the uh live stuff all sounds pretty patchy--esp. considering I think they played live a grand total of maybe a dozen times, they were NOT touring band.) If you want more Neu!-ish stuff get Harmonia's first two records and La Dusseldorf's first record.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:13 (9 years ago) Permalink

I'd also add La Dusseldorf's followup album Viva!. Alex in SF OTM, otherwise.

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:18 (9 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Viva! is still pretty good and there is some good Rother solo stuff from the 70s too (although to my memory most of the albums themselves are hit or miss.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:22 (9 years ago) Permalink

I was just listening to the Thomas Dinger (other half of La Dusseldorf) solo album last weekend. Anyone else like that one? He did it all himself, from 1982. Really simple and repetitive keyboard melodies. It puts me in mind of some of the World Standard stuff, but way more sad and melancholy. I'd say if you've exhausted all the official Neu and La Dusseldorf stuff and you want another gem from that scene it's worth picking up. I'd buy it before that awful Neu '72 thing..

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
Does anyone else find Neu's drumming a bit. . . corny?

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:36 (9 years ago) Permalink

You're fired.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:42 (9 years ago) Permalink

I've been trying to get fired all along.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:43 (9 years ago) Permalink

Ned, you totally need to whip your hair over the front and back Donald style

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:53 (9 years ago) Permalink

man i really wish i had 75 with me right now

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:57 (9 years ago) Permalink

Fuck that noise, Jaxon, Trump ripped ME off.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:58 (9 years ago) Permalink

ned's been banging blondes since the donald was in short pants!

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:17 (9 years ago) Permalink

I knew I had to hide those photos of the golden retreivers. Or have I said too much?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:19 (9 years ago) Permalink

"Opa-Loka" by Hawkwind has a nice punk-kraut vibe.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

where have this band been all my life.

just picked up neu! 75 from hmv in bristol as the counter guy said : 'excellent album - now go get la dusseldorf album'

i genuinely feel as if i have struck audio gold as this stuff ticks so many of my boxes.

oh, and for an update on this type of groove, i reckon steve webster from the band fort lauderdale in his higamos hogamos guise gets pretty close to the source :

mark e, Thursday, 13 October 2011 12:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

must give a shout out for michael rother's "sterntaler" & "flammende herzen" beautiful plangent gtr / xylophone / synth melodies with jaki l on the tic-toc rhythms. thankfully picked em up at the local for 1.50€ a pop whoop!

iglu ferrignu, Thursday, 13 October 2011 12:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Rother is divisive round here- see the krautrock listening club thread from here onwards. I think Rother's stuff is great, personally, but I can understand why people like the edge Dinger brought to things with Neu!

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 13 October 2011 12:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

right on, if you enjoyed Neu! a lot, the first two La Dusseldorf albums are the way to go.

frogbs, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

suspect i wont be able to just nip into fopp and pick them up ..

mark e, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

I think the La Dusseldorf albums are fairly commonly available, Rother solo probably not. I got the former from eMusic not so long ago...

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't sleep on Harmonia - far better than Rother solo.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 14 October 2011 05:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah - those two albums are far better than anything I've heard from Rother solo.

frogbs, Friday, 14 October 2011 13:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

how great is that first La Dusseldorf album? I feel like I really hadn't paid it enough attention until now. It's freakin' gorgeous.

frogbs, Friday, 6 July 2012 16:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

i listen to the first 2 la dusseldorf records way more than neu!

mizzell, Friday, 6 July 2012 16:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

side 1 inner label is a work of art!

zappi, Friday, 6 July 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

I listen to Neu! 75 way more than pretty much anything, but yeah those first two are really something. You could make a really nice Frankenstien's monster out of Neondian and Blue as well.

frogbs, Friday, 6 July 2012 16:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

1st album on Decca!!!!!!! Is that a US copy? I've had two copies, one on Radar (UK) and one on Teldec (German).

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 July 2012 12:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Radar copy looks like a reissue:

http://www.discogs.com/La-D%C3%BCsseldorf-La-D%C3%BCsseldorf/master/25062

timellison, Saturday, 7 July 2012 13:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

Retagging track 2 of my mp3s with that Decca jpg

Milton Parker, Saturday, 7 July 2012 20:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

(xp) Yeah, looks like it, I didn't know that album had been released in the UK before it was on Radar... and certainly not on Decca! My copy is on Teldec and is def. from 1976, not Nova as that discogs. page suggests.

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Monday, 9 July 2012 10:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 14:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

My eyes!

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 21:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Klaus Dinger or Kip Winger?

flared bass (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 00:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

so, like, the moment halfway through Negativland where the drums drop out and the wind-tunnel noise modifies into a descending four-chord pattern before the drums return - Sonic Youth based their entire career on that moment, right?

it's a fucking amazing moment to be fair

OH NO, SECONDS LEFT, SECONDS LEFT, AND THERE IT IS. REGRET. (imago), Sunday, 26 May 2013 21:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

Anyone pick up this yet? http://klausdinger.com/download/Japandorf_Press-release_EN.pdf

dronestreet, Sunday, 26 May 2013 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

http://youtu.be/Lic9-aMsFB8

dronestreet, Sunday, 26 May 2013 22:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

Weiransee has been looping through mind all day. Hot, still summer requires little else

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Tuesday, 4 June 2013 18:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Did they do anything after Neu 75 that is worth checking out?

paolo, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 07:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dinger's work as La Düsseldorf is great.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 07:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

xp search: the pre-Neu! recording they did when they were in Kraftwerk (usu titled "Radio Bremen" or "K4" or some combination thereof), the two Harmonia albums, and the 7" that Rother put out w/ Steve Shelley and some other guy as Hallogallo 2010 which incl this magnificent track

walk in the room they throwin Sade left to right (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

I like Michael Rother's post-Neu! 70s solo records (Sterntaler is a stand-out) though I know not everyone on ILM would agree.

Neil S, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'll second Neil's recommendation of Rother's solo LP's, great stuff. Personally Katzenmusik is my favourite (great drums from Jaki Liebezeit on that one).

I'm a huge La Dusseldorf fan and consider some of their output to be as good as anything from the time. The first two are justifiably cult classics but the third one 'Individuellos' is an adorable album.

For the more adventurous the La! Neu? releases have some great stuff on them. The 2 CD long live take on ‘Cha Cha 2000’ is a beast.

Internet Alan, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 08:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

if you like La Dusseldorf its also worth checking out Thomas Dinger's only solo album, "Fur Mich" from 1982

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 09:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

um I meant Weissensee. No idea where Weiransee came from

ghosts of lower belvedere high technology sludge incinerator (imago), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 10:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

I wrote an article about Neu! and Dinger here:
http://listology.com/jamool/story/neu-plus-la-dusseldorf-and-beyond

Long story short - for Dinger, the first two La Dusseldorf albums are best. Third isn't so hot but the albums that were intended to be the fourth and fifth ones (Neondian and Blue) are both pretty good, especially the latter. Skip most of the La! Neu? stuff unless you want to hear badly recorded improv and a zillion takes on "Cha Cha 2000". The recent reboot of La-D (and unfortunately, the last project he ever made) is Japandorf which is surprisingly strong. Not as good as the best La-D stuff but it mostly stays on the right track and is a lot of fun. Thomas Dinger's album is also worth checking out - lots of repetition but it's actually quite unique.

As for Rother, the two Harmonia albums are great (especially Deluxe) but I never dug his solo career outside the first one.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 12:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Third isn't so hot

Dunno, I like it well enough. "Menschen/Individuellos" has a sort of ABBA vibe to it. "Tintarella Di" is sleighbells in the snow music. "Dampfriemen" is a bunch of red faced men in a Bavarian bierkeller smashing steins of foamy ale together. And so on.

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 12:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

Which one is "bunch of backpacking tourists trying to hit a nail into a block of wood with the thin end of the hammer" ?

Mark G, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 12:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've always felt that Individuellos works better in pieces than as a whole; it's probably his loosest and most saccharine album if you're into that. I just never got the urge to relisten to it.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 13:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

nah first side of Individuellos is killer and works really well as once piece imo

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 13:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

Which one is "bunch of backpacking tourists trying to hit a nail into a block of wood with the thin end of the hammer" ?

I've got "Kommunion/Intensitat", in fact it's the only Stockhausen on vinyl I've managed to buy in five years in London. On "Intensitat" (I think), Stockhausen hammers different lengths of nails into a plank of wood for 20 minutes - doesn't sound all that great to be frank!

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Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 13:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Did they do anything after Neu 75 that is worth checking out?
Neu! 86 has some great moments, especially Grundfunken.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 14:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've only just gotten into Neu! but I prefer the more song-based material like "Hallogallo". Anyone put together a compilation of just those sorts of tracks?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Song based?

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 14:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

you mean stuff with rhythm, as opposed to the more avant-garde things on the debut? if it helps there really isn't much of that outside of the first album. Neu! 75 may be what you're looking for.

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 14:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

There are three sequel tracks to "Hallogallo" on Neu! 2. Neuschnee, Super and Fur Immer. Neu 75 is more rinky-dink on the first half and has vocals on the second half and it's also worth your time.

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 14:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

As for Rother, the two Harmonia albums are great (especially Deluxe) but I never dug his solo career outside the first one.

Madness! Flammende Herzen, Katzenmusik and Sterntaler are all three of them abso essential.

2 huxtables and a sousaphone (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Some good discussion on Rother c or d? here:

KRAUTROCK Listening Klub! - New Albums Every Wednesday

Neil S, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

is that Hallogallo 2010 seven inch the only studio stuff from that project? i thought there might be a whole album forthcoming -- they sounded pretty fucking great in the live shows I heard.

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 15:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't remember much about the album but this is one of my favorite covers -

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:13 (1 year ago) Permalink

and seconding the japandorf recommendation. much better than I expected.

(⊙_⊙?) (Alan N), Wednesday, 5 June 2013 19:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

6 months pass...

that annoying gap about 1:13 into Sonderangebot, is that meant to be there? is it on the originals or did it creep in with the remasters?

koogs, Friday, 3 January 2014 09:19 (6 months ago) Permalink

according to Dinger, yes. he was quite pissed when the bootleggers "fixed" the error

frogbs, Friday, 3 January 2014 12:30 (6 months ago) Permalink

He liked annoying listeners did Klaus

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Friday, 3 January 2014 16:36 (6 months ago) Permalink


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