Neu! - Classic or Dud?

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As you may already know, Astralwerks reissued the first three Neu! albums a few days ago. I know they're legends, but are they one of those bands that gets talked about more than they actually get listened to?

Being the gigantic tool that I am, I bought Neu! 1 the other day, and I can't stop listening to it. I'm very surprised at how well-produced it is; it sounds like it could have been recorded a matter of weeks ago, and that's not hyperbole (as far as I can tell!).

So, is their legendary status deserved? Which Neu! album is your favorite and why? By the way, feel free to branch off and discuss Neu!-influenced bands; is the influence that apparent, or is it just force of habit to say, for example, "Stereolab's Neu!-inspired soundscapes" or something like that?

Clarke B., Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Must purchase first album right NOW! But for NEU! '75 already classic. What I love about that album is the two faces: first 3 tracks slowish ambient (Leb'Wohl being one of the most sun-kissed tracks ever) last 3 tracks total chuga-chuga I'm a train-on-speed rockmusik. I always like Motorik more than Krautrock as a genre name.

Influences? Stereolab at times very obvious (but hey give it a nice spin). Other than that? D.A.F. probably. And then through them and Liaisons Dangereus you could trace an influence to Detroit Techno. But I don't think those guys were directly influenced by NEU!

The Fall maybe?

Omar, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I still haven't bought the re-releases, so I'll refrain comment on whether they're any better than my poorly made, scratched boots.

But what *will* be interesting, will be to see if their cult status is re-appraised in the light of the increased availability of their material. I'm not saying the *only* reason they've reached the status they have is cause the records are so damned hard to find. (clearly that's rubbish) But it will be interesting to see how people react.

masonic boom, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

you know who sounded a lot like Neu! but no-one seemed to pick up on it, was the Clean. i didn't pick up on it myself actually, the NZ rock critic russell brown pointed it out to me & *then* i was like, oh yeah o-course, *obvious* influence. it's more obvious now post- Snapper (with Snapper being a Clean relative & the 1st few Stereolab records rippin' off that groove just as much from Snapper as from Neu!) ('cause did Stereolab know about Snapper, hell yeah, 'course they did, their 1st bass player was a dude from this town).
so is this a C. or D. q.? OK, double mega classic. which album's best? doesn't matter, theyre all the fuckin same.

duane, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

To me the fact that Neu and Dud can co-exist in the same sentence implies that God is disinterested, or malevolent, or that it's true that the universe is as contingent as a soap bubble. The world just seems like a more brutal and alien place.

Emily, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

It s interesting to think of that band using that technology way back then. How many bands today make similar total leaps of technology, as opposed to just workin g within the current framework of rock.

Mike Hanley, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

My friend who works at the local liberal rag just wrote a nice article on Neu! and their recent reissues. Check it out.

bnw, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

What about Cluster?

tarden, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Clean and Snapper, yes -- also, Bailter Space, quite a lot of it has a motorik touch. "I'm in love...with these times..."

As for Neu themselves, almost disgustingly classic, if you will. I remember a friend saying in 1993 or so, "You like Stereolab? You need to hear these guys." Things made a lot more sense after I did.

Speaking of Stereolab, friend ML saw them at an early show and pegged the heavy-duty Neu influence, and asked them about it after the show. Apparently they weren't just surprised that someone had twigged it, they hastily broke off talking with him and went away as if somebody had just released an atomic bomb. About six months later they started admitting it in interviews.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Although I only heard Neu! for the first time two days ago when I got my hands on the reissues, totally classic. I can say this with conviction because it's obvious that they've influenced a zillion other acts along the way: in 1971 they recorded an album that sounds like Stereolab did in the 90s, and I already thought Stereolab was classic (still are, for where they went with it, even though it no longer sounds so original). It also puts Kraftwerk into better perspective, as you can now see that both Kraftwerk and Neu! were two halves of the same thing. As for the collectability of the original material, bah. All I care about is being able to finally hear it. Yay!

Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

You know what's interesting? No one mentioned D.Bowie. Cuz at the * time* — by which I mean time of Low/"Heroes" etc — he and B.Eno mentioned Neu! a *lot*, and it became a standard-issue fing to say: these two records are "influneced by Neu!"

And you know what? They're not. At least, I've never heard it.

mark s, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Funny you should say that:

http://www.astralwerks.com/neu/quotes.html

Bowie himself says at most the influence on his music was 'tenuous,' but clearly he loved it, and says he wanted Rother to play on _Low_.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 31 May 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Everyone and his sister ripped off Neu! as we all know. The funniest similarity for me has always been "Hallogallo", the twangle (twang!) of which can clearly be recognized in Alien Sex Fiend's "Now I'm Feeling Z". Classic!

Simon, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Damn, I just bought Neu! 2 a couple of hours ago, and it's knocking my socks off as I write. I really wish I had known about these guys sooner; however, it is exciting to be discovering them now. I'm actually sort of depressed that there's only one of their albums (well, reissues at least) left for me to get...

Speaking of Cluster, is it pretty impossible to track their stuff down, like it was with pre-reissue Neu! stuff? I will (can) not spend 40 dollars on a piece of (possibly scratched-up) vinyl, either... :-)

Clarke B., Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I did a search on Cluster at gemm.com, which links together the stock lists of loads of record dealers and there are lots of copies of the CDs at affordable prices. I love gemm.com.

Nick, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I never understood why people complained about the difficulty of finding Neu! material. I think it is more an issue of being cheap or lazy, rather than difficult. There have been many Japanese import bootleg versions of their albums available throughout the 1990's. Granted, they were expensive, but never elusive.

As for the Cluster material, most of that material has been reissued through All Saints(if I am not mistaken.) Most everything by the good german prog bands was reissued/bootlegged in the 90's. You might have to hunt, or pay higher prices, but it is out there.

Michael Taylor, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I've always wondered - is Neu! pronounced Noi, Ner or Nu?

scott, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Till now: Noi

From now: Ner

mark s, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Well EXCUUUUUUUSE ME, Michael, for being cheap and lazy! Not all of us have unlimited funds to spend on low-sound-quality bootlegs, though, and some of us have to pay for things like COLLEGE and GAS and CAR INSURANCE--so, basically, piss off. But thanks for the response.

Clarke B., Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Clarke, if you were any kind of a music fan at all you would be STEALING FROM YOUR COLLEGE in order to get more records. Duh. :)

Josh, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

well yeah, cause 'i'm in love with these times' was first a Clean song. neu seem to get reissued every few years, last time around my friend andrew insisted upon their greatness but i can't being myself to agree. musicology.

keith, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Finally I get to hear Neu! I'm working my way through the albums in chronological order, buying them one at a time, which I've found helps me to absorb new music better than if I get two or three at once. Anyway, yes it's great. Initially I thought that I could live without the more experimental tracks (2, 4 and 6), but now I'm finding more and more in them to like. The way the album is sequenced, the motorik groove tracks seem even more driving because of the freeform interludes. I love great intros, and Neu! contains one of the best - the intro to "Negativland" is terrific - first a road drill makes way for (sinister?) clapping and cheering, then a small orchestra tuning- up mutates into a jet engine woosh before bass and drums fire up the groove. A lot of Factory bands must have heard "Negativland" and "Weissensee" (Section 25, Joy Division, A Certain Ratio, Tunnelvision)

I guess "Hallogallo" is the "Stereolab" one. No denying the close similarity, particularly the stabbing wah-chords which Tim Gane seems very fond of.

Dr.C, Tuesday, 12 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

So finally I get to hear Neu!1 and it's pretty amazing. The guitar playing is excellent throughout the album, very minimal, almost - sorry mark s. just one more influence game ;) - proto MBV.

And Dr.C nails it, 'Hallo Gallo' is the only real Stereolab track, every time I expect Laetitia to start singing: "We're bored/with the dialectic/of the masses/and space/bah-bab-bah-bab.

Omar, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Got Neu 75 at the weekend - pretty much agree with Omar's comments at the top of the thread. Side One (tracks 1-3) is utterly blissful. Still finding my way with the second half of the album, but it's looking good. I kinda miss the road drills from the debut though.

Dr. C, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I bought Neu 75 last week and have barely listened to anything else since. The last time this happened was with DI Go Pop, so therefore pretty obviously a huge classic. As others have remarked the division between the more ambient stuff on side one and the heavier proto-punk side two works really well.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 2 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Finally picked up these reissues, replacing my old vinyl boots. Miss the gatefold sleeves of course, but glad the packaging sort of preserves the mystery and doesn't feature sleeve notes/quotes from 'celebrity admirers' like Damon Albarn etc. The re-mastering (whatever) sounds GRATE to my ears - never heard 'Fur Immer' (first track on 'Neu! 2') sound quite so punchy before. Now if only somebody would reissue the first La Dusseldorf alb (Dinger's project after Neu!) - it's on a par with the Dinger side of 'Neu! 75'. Domestic cd pressings of the two Harmonia albs would be welcome, too.

, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
I feel like a bad person because I like Kraftwerk and David Bowie but I can't listen to Neu 75 for the life of me. Is there any hope?

Lindsey B, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

None. You are evil and must leave.

(Did I say this up-thread? D.Bowie said "Neu! Neu! Neu!" abt ten trillion times in 1978-9 but he never sounded like em once.)

mark s, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Maybe Mr. Bowie was influenced by Neu! Just because an artist is influenced by someone else doesn't mean they'll sound a lot like the influence in their music. However,I am evil, I'll give you that much.

Lindsey B, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

(Isn't Neu75 the one even Neu fans hate anyway?)

You may be evil but your theory of influence is better than many (ie quite like mine haha). Biggest influence on [x] = ppl they HATE and exactly DON'T want to sound like.

mark s, Saturday, 11 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1st 3 Neu! are up on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1970s right now for those cheap such as myself.

conny lingus, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

With ref to my post of July 6th, went into Selectadisc yesterday and found the first La Dusseldorf alb on Japanese Import CD (legit issue on Captain Trip) for a semi-measly £10.99! Snapped it up, sounds fantastic (last track 'Time' bears uncannily similarity to Tom Verlaine's 'Breaking In My Heart', recorded some years later - coincidence?) Anyway, any new Neu! fans searching for another/similar fix (let's not mention Stereolab) really should snap one up if they see it...

Andrew L, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Ooooh. I'll be down to Selectadisc after work tomorrow then.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Neu! are phantastic. I wrote something on their 1st record in my blog, if anyone's interested.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 18:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

Overrated. I got their 1st album (finally) a few months ago. Not awful, but I found it screamingly dull considering all the hype they get...

Joe (Joe), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 20:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...
Neu! and Neu! 75 are amongst my favourite albums, but Neu! 2 seems far more patchy.

Is it worth checking out the live recordings? I've heard the sound quality is very poor, and theyre usually around £20-£25.

dmun, Thursday, 24 March 2005 11:09 (8 years ago) Permalink

Neu! 75 is pretty incredible.

You hear their influences everywhere. Hell, Wilco's "Spider" features a classic driving Neu! beat.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Thursday, 24 March 2005 12:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

There's a CD featuring a 1972 rehearsal that gets okay about 40 minutes in, but the fidelity is horrible and it's really fanatics only. Dinger put it out (along with the paperthin Neu! 4 album, based on a weekend jam with Rother in 1986) on Captain Trips in response to the CD boots of the first three albums in the 90's.

http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Neu4.htm
http://mitglied.lycos.de/neuschnee/Neu72.htm

The best tapes are the Kraftwerk live boots with the Schneider / Dinger / Rother lineup, right before D&R spun off to form Neu! An appearence on the TV show 'Beatclub' called 'Rückstoss Gondolero' and the live in Cologne tape, June 12th 1971. They were all collected on a vinyl bootleg called 'Ruckzuck' last year. The Cologne tape is ultra-low-fidelity but the music is incredible.

milton, Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

Neu! 4 is NOT worth getting (and the uh live stuff all sounds pretty patchy--esp. considering I think they played live a grand total of maybe a dozen times, they were NOT touring band.) If you want more Neu!-ish stuff get Harmonia's first two records and La Dusseldorf's first record.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

I'd also add La Dusseldorf's followup album Viva!. Alex in SF OTM, otherwise.

donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:18 (8 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Viva! is still pretty good and there is some good Rother solo stuff from the 70s too (although to my memory most of the albums themselves are hit or miss.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:22 (8 years ago) Permalink

I was just listening to the Thomas Dinger (other half of La Dusseldorf) solo album last weekend. Anyone else like that one? He did it all himself, from 1982. Really simple and repetitive keyboard melodies. It puts me in mind of some of the World Standard stuff, but way more sad and melancholy. I'd say if you've exhausted all the official Neu and La Dusseldorf stuff and you want another gem from that scene it's worth picking up. I'd buy it before that awful Neu '72 thing..

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 24 March 2005 19:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...
Does anyone else find Neu's drumming a bit. . . corny?

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:36 (8 years ago) Permalink

You're fired.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:42 (8 years ago) Permalink

I've been trying to get fired all along.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:43 (8 years ago) Permalink

Ned, you totally need to whip your hair over the front and back Donald style

[that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

man i really wish i had 75 with me right now

strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

Fuck that noise, Jaxon, Trump ripped ME off.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 02:58 (8 years ago) Permalink

ned's been banging blondes since the donald was in short pants!

j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

I knew I had to hide those photos of the golden retreivers. Or have I said too much?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 03:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

dud

is it bad that all non-faust/can krautrock i listen to is for the express purpose of hypnotic background noise for reading? i find neu more droney than most drone out there

fennel cartwright, Thursday, 22 September 2011 00:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Fur Immer" is one of the greatest songs ever, tho it is v drone-y!

don't quixote me on that (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 22 September 2011 01:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not all hypnotic background noise, in case anyone forgot:

dan selzer, Thursday, 22 September 2011 01:36 (1 year ago) Permalink

i like la dusseldorf better

mizzell, Thursday, 22 September 2011 01:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

I can't believe I started this thread over a decade ago... Hypnotic background noise?! What about "Negativland"? Almost everything on Neu! 2? Yeah, Dan, "Hero"!!! They're immortally classic. I was visting one of my better restaurant customers yesterday, showing them a few new wines, and "Hallogallo" suddenly started burbling from the speakers... I freaked out mildly, stopping mid-sentence, being all "this is NEU!? you guys are playing NEU!"... The several-years-younger OWNER and his assistant were like, "yeah I guess... this is the internet radio we play sometimes" or something. It's so funny to think back about how giddy I was that this stuff I had only read about would finally be available, saving up some bucks (and probably selling some CDs) to get the Astralworks reissues, and just listening to them again and again. Now we can just cue it up on Spotify, cross our arms, and pass our judgments in a flash! [/grumpy old early-30s man]

Clarke B., Thursday, 22 September 2011 01:47 (1 year ago) Permalink

Was drinking in this bar last night!

Franz Kappa (S-), Thursday, 22 September 2011 13:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pretty good interview with Michael Rother in the new Wax Poetics, of all places. Summary: Couldn't really handle being friends with Klaus because he was crazy, but we really connected over the music and I'm super proud of that.

andrew m., Thursday, 22 September 2011 15:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pretty good interview with Michael Rother in the new Wax Poetics, of all places. Summary: Couldn't really handle being friends with Klaus because he was crazy, but we really connected over the music and I'm super proud of that.

andrew m., Thursday, 22 September 2011 15:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

I don't ever remember any mention of Neu! in early Jesus & Mary Chain pieces (there was a lot of talk from journalists about the Velvets, Stooges, Suicide, Ramones etc), but Neu 2 is all over some of their early stuff. I guess the journalists just hadn't heard the records in '84, '85?

bham, Friday, 23 September 2011 09:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

They were 'relating' them to the VU, at which point they decided "job done".

It wasn't until the J&MC covered "Mushroom" that the possibility of "other influences" were considered.

Mark G, Friday, 23 September 2011 09:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

Probably more likely that journalists had heard Neu! than JAMC, it's possible JAMC had but they were 110% Velvets anyway

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Anyway, I don't hear the influence!

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

When was Ciccone Youth? That was one of the first time I heard of Neu! being namechecked... in the 80s that is. And then Stereolab came along and it was obvious they'd been "rediscovered" big time.

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Well, I saw SonicYouth supporting the J&MC at the Hammersmith Palais back when, and Ciccone Youth was after that.

Mark G, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Obviously JAMC had turned them on to Neu! when they were all hanging around in the dressing room after the gig

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

Definitely a Neu! influence on Bobby Gillespie as you can hear if you listen to his motorik bongo beats from that one show he played sitting in with Damo Suzuki and Captain Beefheart.

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also he says this:

"Neu! is, in my opinion, one of the more towering musical achievements in recent history, and we are all living in the individual shadows of these two men. Speed and stillness, simplicity and cacophony, gentleness and aggression, mania and focus, are all juxtapositions that have been given a voice, and have learned to coexist under the equally as contradictory guidance of Michael and Klaus."

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Nah, I'm sure they were all trying to get tales out of Jayne Casey... (xpost, Pink Military were 2nd support)

Mark G, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

Spitzenqualität could be a mid-80s JAMC b-side

bham, Monday, 26 September 2011 10:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Also he says this:

"See that fuckin' Neu!, fuckin' ripped me aff so they did. They came tae see the fuckin' Mary Chain, ah think it wis at Janie's in Gourock... aye the Boey Hairdressers wur supportin' us, pile o' shite they wur till ah fuckin' lent Norman some Big Star records and said, "Here ye go, son, rip that moab aff and ye'll be laughin'"... anywey, where wis ah? Oh aye, there ah um fuckin' knockin' back the shandies wi' Stephen Pastel and that fuckin' Klaus Dinger cunt comes up tae me 'n is aw like "Oh, herr Bobby, you are the best drummer I hef ever seen, Mo Tucker voz right about you!" and ah'm like, "Aye aye, pal, heard it. Who let this pair o' losers in?". And the other yin, he wis oo'er at fuckin' Wullie Reid bendin' his fuckin' earhole aboot fuckin' guitar strings or sumthin'. Next thing ye know, the cunts huv pit oot their fuckin' first album 'n it's goat the fuckin' Mary Chain aw oo'er it!"

Juice Should Be Sterliized (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

^ much more believable than his actual quote, when will these so-called newspapers print the truth?

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Monday, 26 September 2011 10:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Pretty good interview with Michael Rother in the new Wax Poetics, of all places. Summary: Couldn't really handle being friends with Klaus because he was crazy, but we really connected over the music and I'm super proud of that.

I know that Klaus was really the "genius" of the group but I feel like Michael should have had the final word on what was actually released

frogbs, Monday, 26 September 2011 18:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

i have read this thread several times over the years, but never dived in until today.
just found neu! and neu!2 in fopp in the £2 exchange bins in very good condition.
listened to neu! and starting neu!2 now.
i already know that these going to be top of the playlist for a very long time to come.
very chuffed.

mark e, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

Neu 75 even better!

dan selzer, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:22 (1 year ago) Permalink

as of today, i will be tracking that one down

mark e, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

███★★★███ (PappaWheelie V), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 13:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is there anything else like side 2 of Neu '75? Proto-punk classic.

The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 16:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Not by Neu! La Dusseldorf carries on equally awesome but never as raw.

If you're John Lydon you'd say "Nadir's Big Chance" by Pater Hammill.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 16:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

Thanks Dan, I'll check them both out.

The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

I totally love the La Dusseldorf albums, but I admit I once played them through my Arp 2600's preamp so I could distort it a little bit!

dan selzer, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

"Opa-Loka" by Hawkwind has a nice punk-kraut vibe.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 12 October 2011 17:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

where have this band been all my life.

just picked up neu! 75 from hmv in bristol as the counter guy said : 'excellent album - now go get la dusseldorf album'

i genuinely feel as if i have struck audio gold as this stuff ticks so many of my boxes.

oh, and for an update on this type of groove, i reckon steve webster from the band fort lauderdale in his higamos hogamos guise gets pretty close to the source :

mark e, Thursday, 13 October 2011 12:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

must give a shout out for michael rother's "sterntaler" & "flammende herzen" beautiful plangent gtr / xylophone / synth melodies with jaki l on the tic-toc rhythms. thankfully picked em up at the local for 1.50€ a pop whoop!

iglu ferrignu, Thursday, 13 October 2011 12:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Rother is divisive round here- see the krautrock listening club thread from here onwards. I think Rother's stuff is great, personally, but I can understand why people like the edge Dinger brought to things with Neu!

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 13 October 2011 12:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

right on, if you enjoyed Neu! a lot, the first two La Dusseldorf albums are the way to go.

frogbs, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

suspect i wont be able to just nip into fopp and pick them up ..

mark e, Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think the La Dusseldorf albums are fairly commonly available, Rother solo probably not. I got the former from eMusic not so long ago...

good luck in your pyramid (Neil S), Thursday, 13 October 2011 13:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Don't sleep on Harmonia - far better than Rother solo.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Friday, 14 October 2011 05:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oh yeah - those two albums are far better than anything I've heard from Rother solo.

frogbs, Friday, 14 October 2011 13:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

how great is that first La Dusseldorf album? I feel like I really hadn't paid it enough attention until now. It's freakin' gorgeous.

frogbs, Friday, 6 July 2012 16:02 (10 months ago) Permalink

i listen to the first 2 la dusseldorf records way more than neu!

mizzell, Friday, 6 July 2012 16:08 (10 months ago) Permalink

side 1 inner label is a work of art!

zappi, Friday, 6 July 2012 16:11 (10 months ago) Permalink

I listen to Neu! 75 way more than pretty much anything, but yeah those first two are really something. You could make a really nice Frankenstien's monster out of Neondian and Blue as well.

frogbs, Friday, 6 July 2012 16:11 (10 months ago) Permalink

1st album on Decca!!!!!!! Is that a US copy? I've had two copies, one on Radar (UK) and one on Teldec (German).

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Saturday, 7 July 2012 12:44 (10 months ago) Permalink

Radar copy looks like a reissue:

http://www.discogs.com/La-D%C3%BCsseldorf-La-D%C3%BCsseldorf/master/25062

timellison, Saturday, 7 July 2012 13:42 (10 months ago) Permalink

Retagging track 2 of my mp3s with that Decca jpg

Milton Parker, Saturday, 7 July 2012 20:34 (10 months ago) Permalink

(xp) Yeah, looks like it, I didn't know that album had been released in the UK before it was on Radar... and certainly not on Decca! My copy is on Teldec and is def. from 1976, not Nova as that discogs. page suggests.

SomeTwat from Tring (Tom D.), Monday, 9 July 2012 10:48 (10 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

things that are jokes pretty much (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 25 December 2012 14:18 (5 months ago) Permalink

My eyes!

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 25 December 2012 21:01 (5 months ago) Permalink

Klaus Dinger or Kip Winger?

flared bass (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 26 December 2012 00:09 (5 months ago) Permalink


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