Dashboard Confessional genuis?

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I think so.

Chris Ryan (chrisryan), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Who's gonna back me up here?

Chris Ryan (chrisryan), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

how do you pronounce that?

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Genuis?" Yeah, they're probably that.

paul cox (paul cox), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

James Taylor better watch out!

jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

That guy's not a genuis. He probably hasn't even lost his virginty.

charlie va (charlie va), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 01:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

That guy's not a genuis. He probably hasn't even lost his virginty.

Yeah, there's a real connection THERE. All the frat-pigfucks who Rufie underage freshmen weekly are "genius."

Actually, it's funny but this reminds me of something I just saw in Carl Sagan's book which I was browsing inspired by my phil. thread at ILE. Did you guys know that Isaac Newton died a virgin ? (W/ women of course)

V, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 02:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

Geez. The virginty bit was a reference to another misspelled thread name. The joke just isn't as funny if you have to explain it.

charlie va (charlie va), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 02:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

I thought you meant he was a "genus" like a species or a family, you know, biology.

David Allen, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 02:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

are you out of you fucking mind?

robert lashley (brotherman), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 03:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

dashboard confessional ennui.

gygax!, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 03:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

haha, one of ilm's finer threads

donut "I miss Jess" bitch (donut), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 03:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

dashboard is trash. all he does is whine about shit. and you know he probably gets laid after every damn show. what a hack.

clinton doggett, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 04:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

Why do people like DC? Like, I can't find a single redeeming feature, either in the sound or anywhere else (their/his fans singing along is THE WORST THING EVER). Can this be explained, or is it just a stupid person thing?

Dan I., Wednesday, 4 December 2002 08:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think so.

Really? Explain why, Chris.

^Diego^ (dhadis), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 15:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

I hate Dashboard Confessional in so violent a manner that to try to express it in mere words would be an excercise in utter, utter futility.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 17:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

Can someone else do that thing where they post the definition of "trolling"? I'm too lazy.

Nick A. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

I think so too. In fact, someone should write a book about it! Oh, wait . . .

Andy Greenwald, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 20:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

troll

1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite. The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get to be in on it. See also YHBT. 2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll." Compare kook. 3. n. [Berkeley] Computer lab monitor. A popular campus job for CS students. Duties include helping newbies and ensuring that lab policies are followed. Probably so-called because it involves lurking in dark cavelike corners.

Some people claim that the troll (sense 1) is properly a narrower category than flame bait, that a troll is categorized by containing some assertion that is wrong but not overtly controversial. See also Troll-O-Meter.

The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings.

-- The Jargon File

Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 20:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Though Blink 182 also fetishize adolescent romantic confusion too much, at least you can bounce up and down to their peurility. You're supposed to cry to DC's. Though the endearing idiocy of "Screaming Infidelities" seemed to imply he might be the male Lisa Loeb.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 20:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Ah, but what about the confused romantic adolescents themselves? Shouldn't they have music that speaks this perfectly to them? Or are they unwitting participants in their own fetishization? I can certainly understand why you guys all hate him, but did you ever think that maybe you're not exactly the target audience? Just a thought.

Andy Greenwald, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 20:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

so I can't like Hot Topic either? cuz I'm not part of the target audience? or Matlock?

And can't we tell them when they're being told comforting lies? "The Breakfast Club" speaks perfectly to teens by telling them Adults Are The Enemy. "Rambo" speaks perfectly to small-minded Commie haters. That doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't mock the movies.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 23:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

probably gets laid after every damn show

During. Between the set-closer and the first encore. Beeeeyaaaaaatch

Chris Caccavas (J0hn Darn13ll3), Thursday, 5 December 2002 00:04 (twenty-one years ago) link

I really wish this was him.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 5 December 2002 00:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

I wish everybody's e-mail address was like that. Imanthony!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 December 2002 00:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, I thought that Dashboard Confessional was pretty much OK until I heard them for the first time, and then I though to myself, "OK, here's a guy that looks like he tattoos people for a living, yet he's singing the most whineypuss crap in the world about relationships of all things."

What the singer needs to do is get in a car accident that makes him not-so-pretty, and then listen to Black Flag and Fear for a while, and then write songs about fistfights and guzzling liters of whiskey. And the songs have to be really loud and fast, with a lot of Chuck Berry riffs. Then he'll be ok.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Thursday, 5 December 2002 00:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

wouldn't be easier for him to just put a drum machine and some "woo-woo's" behind his stuff? Then he'd be a sad Sugar Ray!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 5 December 2002 00:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

probably gets laid after every damn show

During. Between the set-closer and the first encore. Beeeeyaaaaaatch

Under the stage like Def Leppard? ("It was like Caligula! Mothers and daughters!" -guy in every behind the music)

original bgm, Thursday, 5 December 2002 01:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

bob wratten could kick his ass

keith (keithmcl), Thursday, 5 December 2002 04:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

i've always thought bobby could be a bit of a bruiser

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 5 December 2002 04:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

More important question:

Who has a worse haircut, Dashboard guy or Jimmy Eat World guy? Its tough to tell.

David Allen, Thursday, 5 December 2002 04:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, you misunderstand. You're free to like or dislike anything at all. I'm just helpfully pointing out that a lot of this frenzied vitriol is pretty much irrelevant. It's far more interesting to hear the opinions of people who DO like Dashboard and why they do -- or at least the opinions of those who have heard more than one song -- than it is to hear all of you bitch and moan about him. But I also do realize this is a venue for just that sort of bitching and moaning, so I'll take this moment to exit cheerfully, stage left.

(PS: it wasn't my friend Chris Ryan who started this topic, like a baited hook for me, so who was borrowing his name? Is this identity theft? Horrors.)

Andy Greenwald, Thursday, 5 December 2002 04:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

Andy what're you doing here? And when are you going to run my metal column?

J0hn Darni3ll3 (J0hn Darni3ll3), Thursday, 5 December 2002 05:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

(that's to be read in a "hey, how ya doin'" tone, by the way, not a surly one)

J0hn Darni3ll3 (J0hn Darni3ll3), Thursday, 5 December 2002 05:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hi John! I didn't realize that was you. I'll run your metal column as soon as they restart Spin.com! I've been off that beat for well over a year -- they laid everyone off except me. Sorry I never followed up with you about that. It was quite a column. Besides, you've been busy making some pretty stellar records. As to why I'm here -- well, I can't resist a debate over my muse, Dashboard Confessional . . .

Andy Greenwald, Thursday, 5 December 2002 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

ILx, the coffee klatch of the music world. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 December 2002 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh, you misunderstand. You're free to like or dislike anything at all. I'm just helpfully pointing out that a lot of this frenzied vitriol is pretty much irrelevant. It's far more interesting to hear the opinions of people who DO like Dashboard and why they do -- or at least the opinions of those who have heard more than one song -- than it is to hear all of you bitch and moan about him.

I'll certainly agree with this.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 5 December 2002 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

What the singer needs to do is get in a car accident that makes him not-so-pretty, and then listen to Black Flag and Fear for a while, and then write songs about fistfights and guzzling liters of whiskey. And the songs have to be really loud and fast, with a lot of Chuck Berry riffs. Then he'll be ok.

This is awesome.

Kris (aqueduct), Thursday, 5 December 2002 19:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

well, if you wanna hear people say why he rox, wait for the puppy to show up on TRL.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 6 December 2002 04:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I already said his idiocy was endearing.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 6 December 2002 04:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

fourteen years pass...

seeing him tuesday. last time i did was one of the best shows i've ever seen. i've been relistening to all the albums for the last few weeks. the themes are so incredibly trite and at the same time lyrically he does so much more than he needs to there's all kinds of amazingly witty lines, clever turns. it's also like a bizarro world of breakups. it's impossible one person could experience all the breakups and different kinds that he claims to, and then some of the claims he makes are insane. one of my favorite lines: "You will be back someday / And this awkward kiss that tells of other people's lips / Will be of service to giving you away," i mean obv all the emo feels but also if u think about it for a few seconds what exactly is he saying? he is tasting other boys' on her lips?? and it's giving away her secret (that she cheated on him)?? this is obv all impossible - it's like epic fantasy heartbreak.

Mordy, Sunday, 22 January 2017 05:33 (seven years ago) link

ten months pass...

i had never heard dusk and summer or after the ending before this weekend and i think they figure considerably into taylor swift's songwriting for at least two albums

dusk and summer in particular is a gorgeously-produced and written emo crossover record

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 December 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link

alter the ending* lol

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 December 2017 15:51 (six years ago) link

love that album. new one coming out next year iirc!

Mordy, Saturday, 16 December 2017 16:38 (six years ago) link


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