Nilsson - C or D?

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Hi; i'm new to this ILM board.
I see there isn't a C or D for Harry Nilsson... so, what do people think?
I would on the whole have to say a strong "classic". Particularly later albums like "Nilsson Schmilsson" and the underrated "Pussy Cats". Songs like "The Moonbeam Song" and "I'll Never Leave You" are as great as one can imagine sparse, embellished piano ballads being.
Of course, there are the famous hits, Without You and Everybody's Talking; both great obviously, but there is so much more to his career than that. A fine interpreter of Randy Newman's songs... a fitting collaborator with John Lennon ("Pussy Cats")... a fine songwriter, master of the cover version and of many genres. One of the great voices - even more compelling on "Pussy Cats" when it is of a forced lower register. I love his work, and ought really to track down some stuff after "Pussy Cats".

Tom May, Sunday, 1 December 2002 20:24 (11 years ago) Permalink

For his work on The Point, definitely classic.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 December 2002 20:44 (11 years ago) Permalink

I've not heard that soundtrack... though I got the CD a while ago... had "Skidoo" on it as well. Really need to listen to it when I get back home (am at University) and have access to my whole CD collection.
Nilsson was a very adaptable, maverick talent, and I'm sure he did soundtracks well... what was "The Point" exactly? A film?

Tom May, Sunday, 1 December 2002 21:30 (11 years ago) Permalink

a film and an album (with the story narrated between songs). The Point is by far the best thing i've heard by him. the comic book that came with the LP is great too

michael (michael), Sunday, 1 December 2002 21:41 (11 years ago) Permalink

i need to read better - didn't see that you already had the thing!

michael (michael), Sunday, 1 December 2002 22:01 (11 years ago) Permalink

I have to say classic too. If he only recorded Everybody's talking he'd be worthy of iconic status but as Tom say's he's so much more. One of the most underrated vocalists of the past 40 years and a consummate pop magpie. Everything Badly Drawn Boy wants to be, but isn't (yet). Most (all?) of his stuff has now been reissued with bonus tracks, twofers etc.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Sunday, 1 December 2002 22:15 (11 years ago) Permalink

When I was in high school I wrote Stephen Malkmus a letter and asked him to list some albums I should buy. Pussy Cats was one of them.

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 1 December 2002 23:02 (11 years ago) Permalink

A good recommendation :-) Quite, quite unique within his own works it seems, because of his voice problems, which make his vocals all jagged and melancholic in a different way to before.
Lennon does a fine job getting the sound right; "Many Rivers To Cross" is an overpowering opening and great cover version. "Don't Forget Me" and "Old Forgotten Soldier" are nearly harrowing in their sadness, as expressed by his voice on this record. Then there's the brilliant run of tracks towards the end from "Save the Last Dance For Me" to "Mucho Mambo/Mt. Elga" (lovely Lennon song, with a nostalgic sound to it) then to "Black Sails" IIRC, stripped back orchestration and Nilsson's wonderful lyrics and vocals. Then IIRC "Loop de Loop" and "Rock around the Clock", which sound unbelievably inspired in the album's context.
Not forgetting the acerbic, jagged "Subterranean Homseick Blues" cover of course...
His finest album I've heard; along with "Nilsson Schmilsson", which i've not listened to as many times as PC.

Out of interest, what else did Malkmus include on his list?

Tom May, Sunday, 1 December 2002 23:18 (11 years ago) Permalink

"Jump Into the Fire" is rocktastic!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 1 December 2002 23:26 (11 years ago) Permalink

I can only remember a few, I remember that I already had most of them.

The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour (yup)
Sonic Youth - (spelt Psonick Youth) Sister
Kraftwerk - the Man Machine
Wire - Chairs Missing
some CCR album, I can't remember which one


I remember feeling surprised/redeemed/something that 'Chairs Missing' was on there cuz it's one of my favorite albums

James Blount (James Blount), Sunday, 1 December 2002 23:29 (11 years ago) Permalink

Nilsson Sings Newman is truly extraordinary. That is to say, there's nothing else like it. I always wished they had made a sequel. Too many highlights to list, so I'll just mention that "Cowboy" kicks ass.

His first two albums, Pantomime Shadow Show and Aerial Ballet, are favorites of mine, too.

Curt (cgould), Sunday, 1 December 2002 23:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I've only played that album a few times, but it's splendid stuff. The example I can bring to mind is; "Dayton Ohio, 1903". His is a better version than Newman's. Newman's = solid version of his own subtle song. Nilsson's = a version embellishing more tone in the song. His use of slightly faltering odd backing vocals, for instance, is a perfect move. His voice in general I prefer to Newman's - but then there are few singers who can match Nilsson IMO.
Interesting to compare Nilsson's "Vine Street" to Van Dyke Parks' version starting off "Song Cycle"...

Tom May, Monday, 2 December 2002 00:05 (11 years ago) Permalink

Me and my Arrow.....

webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 2 December 2002 00:43 (11 years ago) Permalink

Some fine stuff written for other people, too. I love the songs for Altman's "Popeye." Shelly Duvall singing "He's Large" cracks me up every time I hear it, and "He Needs Me" was used to great effect in "Punch-Drunk Love."

Also, for pure fabulousity: the Shangri-Las doing "Paradise," one of his first songs. If you haven't heard this, track it down immediately. It's the Shangri-Las singing a Harry Nilsson song, for Christ's sake! Could anything be better?

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Monday, 2 December 2002 02:02 (11 years ago) Permalink

Marcel: my, that does sound very enticing! The Shangri-La's are big favourites of mine, since I first heard them, about a year ago or less... I only have one cheap compilation of them though.
Where can I find this "Paradise" song? Are there any really exhaustive compilations which have it on? Did they actually do many regular albums?

Tom May, Monday, 2 December 2002 02:40 (11 years ago) Permalink

Nilsson Sings Newman is truly extraordinary.

This album is GORGEOUS.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 2 December 2002 02:48 (11 years ago) Permalink

Pandemonium Shadow Show, Aerial Ballet and the 'remix' album derived from both were released (along with much of his 70s material) in remastered, repackaged form in Europe (not the US, I don't think) by Camden a couple of years ago. The PSS/AB/APB set is lovely stuff.

I think I've already blabbed over "Without You" and the embarrassing Pavlovian reaction I have to its opening bars elsewhere on ILM.

I'd love to hear this Newman material. The Camden version is 35 tracks - for only 8 quid (well, it includes Harry). What am I waiting for?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 2 December 2002 10:32 (11 years ago) Permalink

Well, indeed what are you waiting for? All the talk has been of the Newman album but Harry, that it's paired with is brilliant too. All self penned and just beautiful.

The other album talked up has been Pussy Cats but I find this difficult to listen to given the state his previously amazing voice is in. Too many brandy alexanders. The albums after this his voice recovers somewhat but it's never quite the same again.

Son of Schmillsson is also worth checking out especially the master stroke of getting the OAP's from the local old folks home to sing on a song called I'd Rather Be Dead. Not only a great voice and a great songwriter but a great sense of humour too.

mms (mms), Monday, 2 December 2002 14:42 (11 years ago) Permalink

Classic.

One of my favorite songwriters. Nilsson Schmilson and Son of Schmilson are complete classics. His songs hold up so well, it's pretty amazing. And I can't really see how Elliot Smith or Badly Drawn Boy without him.

The story about him blowing out his vocal cords when he was recording Pussy Cats because he didn't want to let Lennon know is pretty tragic.

Aaron W, Monday, 2 December 2002 14:48 (11 years ago) Permalink

I like how Blackalicious sampled him on "Blazing Arrow".

Orange, Monday, 2 December 2002 20:37 (11 years ago) Permalink

Nilsson Sings Newman is the best record (by anyone, ever) by such a huge margin it's ridiculous.
All essential up to "The Point", patchy from then on. He tends to lose it in my opinion after Son Of Schmilsson, which includes the lovely "the Lottery Song". And not much else.

But ....man....Nilsson Sings Newman.....phew....extraordinary...

harveyw, Monday, 2 December 2002 21:53 (11 years ago) Permalink

I don't actually find 'The Point' very listenable, with the little skits and the very brief ditties it reminds me of nothing so much as Brian Wilson's 'Mt. Vernon and Fairway,' albeit more coherent. I think it would be a shame if Nilsson were best remembered for this album which is really more a novelty than anything else. Perhaps the TV movie stands on its own more ably than the album.

A friend of mine in college swore by Harry's later albums, like 'Duit on mon dei.' I haven't heard them myself. Thoughts?

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 2 December 2002 23:24 (11 years ago) Permalink

I don't have anything to add except to say that Nilsson is awesome.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 2 December 2002 23:29 (11 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
Have now listened to and absorbed 'The Point!' which is absolutely charming; a quite splendid record. Amateurist is certainly right there are similarity to BW's 'Mt. Vernon', and while I like that piece of whimsy, Nilsson's effort here is far better structured and has deeper resonances. All the songs are fantastic as well - as are the reprises used as backgrounds in the narration parts. There is a few moments of music that are sublime in 'Mt. Vernon' with the rest passably whimsical; 'The Point!' is wonderfully transcendent all the way. Beautiful.
Of his other records, only 'Nilsson Schmilsson' and 'Pussy Cats' are as consistent perhaps; though 'Son of Schmilsson', 'Nilsson Sings Newman' and 'Harry' are laudable also.

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:13 (11 years ago) Permalink

I have heard a lot of great stuff by Nilsson ("One" is my favourite among what I've heard). A pity his two most well-known songs were just rather ordinary MOR-sounding cover versions.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:15 (11 years ago) Permalink

What is 'One' off again?
Indeed, Nilsson is sadly pigeonholed in the popular consciousness (certainly in Britain at least) as merely a balladeer who made 'Without You' famous. Maybe slightly fewer also recall 'Everybody's Talkin''.
Wonderful version though it is (if indeed not revolutionary in style) there is *far, far* more to Nilsson's oeuvre than it.
He should certainly get the credit if not more so, than people like Newman, Elliott Smith etc... the more 'traditional' sort of songwriters he is akin to. Though indeed, much of his stuff plays games with regular ideas of 'genre'.
Nilsson's voice is near-unequalled, and his songwriting is so beautifully melodic and at times cantankerous that he deserves to be recognised as amongst the finest talents.

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:25 (11 years ago) Permalink

What is 'One' off again?

Not completely sure, but it must be one of his very earliest albums.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:29 (11 years ago) Permalink

Btw. Not only is Nilsson undeservedly lumped with "Without You". The guys who did actually write "Without You" did never achieve quite the carreer they deserved. I mean, Badfinger were responsible for truly classic singles such as "Maybe Tomorrow", "Come And Get It", "No Matter What" and "Day After Day". And yet they were (and still are) largely ignored.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:30 (11 years ago) Permalink

Classic. I need to hear more of this guy. I just bought "Nillsoon Sings Newman" and I've had "Pussy Cats" for ages. Great voice, charming songs.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:40 (11 years ago) Permalink

I guess you cannot honor Nilsson for the songs in "Nilsson sings Newman" being charming though...

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:55 (11 years ago) Permalink

Why not? He picked 'em! In my book, that's half as good as writing 'em!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:58 (11 years ago) Permalink

'Nilsson Sings Newman' (indeed made around the same time) is a big flip side in tone to the innocence and joy of 'The Point!' which shows what a range of material he could confidently tackle.

Tom May (Tom May), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:59 (11 years ago) Permalink

Now, if you haven’t got an answer, you’d never have a question
And if you never had a question, then you’d never have a problem
But if you never had a problem, well everyone would be happy
But if everyone was happy, there’d never be a love song

Joy to the world was a beautiful girl
But to me Joy meant only sorrow

christoff (christoff), Monday, 10 March 2003 20:19 (11 years ago) Permalink

6 months pass...
Man, I just busted out his first three records today, Pandemonium Shadow Show, Aerial Ballet and Harry. None are stone-cold classics start to finish, but each have some of the smartest pop compositions I've ever heard -- "The Puppy Song," "Daddy's Song," "1941". All exhibit totally unparalleled songcraft -- people just do NOT write songs like that anymore. What great arrangements and what a horribly underrated singer.

Does anyone have either of those two double-CD sets comprised from his last late 70s records? I like the few songs I have from them on comps, and I'm intrigued...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:27 (10 years ago) Permalink

Classic! Classic! Classic! One of my favourite artists, didn't release anything that wasn't brilliant until, ironically enough, "Nilsson Schmilsson" which is really not in the same class as his early albums. Thereafter he released some of the worst, most self-indulgent rubbish ever released by a major recording artist - a lot of the material on albums like "Sandman" and "Duit On Mon Dei" is just painful to listen to. But, even then, he still came up with the occasional gem and "Knnillssonn" is a bit of a triumph.

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 08:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Yeah? I love that "All I Think About Is You" from Knnillssonn, and have heard wonderful things. Though I think Nilsson Schmilson is actually a little underrated these days -- "Gotta Get Up" and the last song are both fantastic.

Thoughts about his best record? Those first three are all filled with absolutely brilliant pop confections, but also some filler. Pussy Cats is pretty terrific in places -- "Don't Forget Me" being one of his best twisted ballads.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 16:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

I should also add that I just read that "Cuddly Toy"--famously recorded by The Monkees--is about a "gang bang." Sure gives new meaning to these lyrics:

You're not the only choo choo train,
That was left out in the rain,
The day after Santa came.
You're not the only cherry delight,
That was left in the night,
And gave up without a fight.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 16:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

was watching punch drunk love last night and really enjoying the 'he needs me' song, then learned that it was written by nilsson and sung by shelley duvall, and comes from the popeye soundtrack. so i guess i will try to get one or the other sometime

ron (ron), Thursday, 25 September 2003 00:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

I think "Aerial Ballet" is his best album but might be a little 60s pop baroque for some tastes.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 25 September 2003 10:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

Popeye is out-of-print, unfortunately. I've read that Nilsson did demos for that record w/ his own voice that are fantastic -- totally different versions where he overdubbed timpanis and such on his own. Maybe they'll be exhumed when the record finally gets reissued.

He also apparently finished his last album right before he died in 1994. Would love to hear that...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 25 September 2003 21:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

some of those Popeye demos are floating around slsk

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 25 September 2003 21:34 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Aerial Ballet" rules!

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 25 September 2003 21:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

some of those Popeye demos are floating around slsk

And??!? Sadly, I am Soul Seekless right now...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 25 September 2003 21:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

God...that's diabolical about "Cuddly Toy." Of course...

M Specktor (M Specktor), Thursday, 25 September 2003 22:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...
That Blount/Malkmus story is just gold! :)

adaml (adaml), Sunday, 19 October 2003 01:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

7 months pass...
What an odd surprise that I accidentally came across this conversation about Nilsson - just out of the blue... but it gives me great pleasure to share a few funny things about actually meeting and talking to the man some years back. He was at one of those Beatlefest conventions on behalf of the National Coalition To Ban Hand Guns (obviously got involved with it after John Lennon's tragic death) and he had a table where he was *selling* kisses, handshakes, signing albums and pictures - whatever you wanted, while making a donation. Being a cartoonist I did a quick caricature of Harry and gave it to him. He was pretty delighted and then proceeded to draw me a quick cartoon of himself which I still own today. A friend of mine was with me (next in line) and holding a $5 bill in his fingers decided to ask Harry to sing a couple of lines. With lightening speed Harry snatched the $5 bill from his fingers and sang "Couple of lines!!!" It was hilarious.... a very funny moment.

Hours later I caught Harry heading for the hotel bar with friends and I asked him about a rumor I heard that their might be a POINT II in the works (animated sequel and album to The Point) and he said there was some talks about it. He said he wanted to call it "Back To The Point". Obviously, it was never made - but he did seem to have some fondness for The Point. At this point in his career Harry's voice was raspier than ever - and he never did recover to the point where he released anything like his earlier albums. I think he had just done the Popeye Soundtrack, which of course he didn't sing himself. But now hearing that there may be demos to it I certainly would love to hear what that sounded like.

My last recollection about Harry is a bittersweet one... he decided to join the Beatlefest house band onstage during one of their sets, and although it got a standing ovation from the audience - it was more out of appreciation for the man than it was for the vocal performance anyone was hearing that night. Harry was obviously drinking and at times when he spoke you either couldn't hear him or understand him - but I remember just the same how everybody went crazy for him. How could you not? I mean - this was Nilsson.

Donald, Friday, 11 June 2004 15:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

Can't live ... if living is without Harry.

briania (briania), Friday, 11 June 2004 18:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

The Popeye demos are pretty terrific -- if someone ever reissued the record, they'd be wise to put them on.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 12 June 2004 14:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

A Point sequel, what a joy that would have been. Ah well, regrets.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 June 2004 15:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's funny to see my post up there and remember there was a time when Harry/Nilsson Sings Newman wasn't a part of my life. One of the best records I've ever heard.

"Put a lot of echo on it if you can..."

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Saturday, 12 June 2004 17:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

so subtract 15% from the price!

and probably add $15 or more for shipping, alas

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 16 May 2013 04:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

Actually, no. £3.08, or about $5 to the USA. Not bad for a 17 CD set.

crustaceanrebel, Thursday, 16 May 2013 04:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

oh wow. well, that's ordered.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 16 May 2013 06:42 (1 year ago) Permalink

yup. ordered.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:15 (1 year ago) Permalink

Notice he does a version of "She's Just Laughing At Me", one of the standout tracks on Tiny Tim's 2nd album!

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

Seems rude not to.

Mark G, Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

Ordered.

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 09:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

My only hesitation for ordering this is that I already have everything but Skidoo from RCA. So I'd pretty much be paying for about half of the Sessions material (a bunch of it is bonus tracks on the other releases), mono mixes (yawn) and the packaging.

Still, $70 is pretty goddamned cheap.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

I have the Pand/Aerial/Combi 2CD set from a while back, and some of the vinyl albums.

This doesn't have the 'grapple' "Son of Dracula" does it? Will have to 'do' my vinyl copy and add it, I guess...

Mark G, Thursday, 16 May 2013 12:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

very tempted to get this

Moodles, Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

My only hesitation for ordering this is that I already have everything but Skidoo from RCA. So I'd pretty much be paying for about half of the Sessions material (a bunch of it is bonus tracks on the other releases), mono mixes (yawn) and the packaging.

Still, $70 is pretty goddamned cheap.

― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:00 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just sell those other discs and you'll probably make enough to pay for 1/3 to 1/2 of the box set!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 16 May 2013 13:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

Think I'll be giving my old CDs to friends who deserve to have Harry Nilsson in their lives

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2013 14:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

very tempted to get this

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeahhhh, i think i want this. i've actually got a bunch of these on beat up vinyl, so it would be nice to have remastered versions.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

is there word on whether these are remastered from earlier releases? i would assume they are.... but who is doing the remastering?

i'm not expert on this but I do worry about the whole loudness stuff

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

the glory of the beat-up vinyl is that some of these albums have got really fun sleeves (inners *and* outers)

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

coconut = the moment he became classic

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

huh? he was way classic before that.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:39 (1 year ago) Permalink

Apparently Vic Anesini, who's done really nice work on a lot of things (e.g. the Roy Orbison Monument reissues from a few years ago) did some or all of the remastering (according to this Steve Hoffman Forum thread: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/nilsson-boxed-set-coming.264573/page-10#post-8876519"">Nilsson boxed set coming?).

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks!

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

i'm kind of shocked that they are releasing this, maybe they saw that for the love of harry blog and were like, "ha, we can best that"

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:41 (1 year ago) Permalink

for me the appeal is the later albums, most of which I've never been able to hear/find. I have a bunch of the extras from previous reissues of the early/peak period stuff, but I've never heard any of the albums after Son of Schmillson (except for Knilllssson, which is pretty good)

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

duit on mon dei and sandman are definitely a mixed bag (at best?)

the outtakes stuff is pretty exciting no?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 16 May 2013 16:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've heard most of the demos/outtakes from Pussycats, Nilsson Schmillson, Aerial Ballet and Pandemonium Shadow Show (not too fond of the latter tbh) - but yeah the rest sounds interesting

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 May 2013 17:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

best novelty promo item ever?

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Thursday, 16 May 2013 17:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

for me the appeal is the later albums, most of which I've never been able to hear/find. I have a bunch of the extras from previous reissues of the early/peak period stuff, but I've never heard any of the albums after Son of Schmillson (except for Knilllssson, which is pretty good)

There's a piece of me that's always longed to write a long form essay on his last four RCA albums. None of them are amazing from front to back -- and as noted upthread, Knilllssson is a little overrated IMO. But what he was trying to do on those albums--the rolling studio parties and buffets, the Lenny Bruce homages, the cast of characters, and the songs themselves--is entirely unique as a moment in post-60s music industry culture.

I might want the biography more.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 16 May 2013 17:30 (1 year ago) Permalink

I think this is my favorite Nilsson outtake

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 16 May 2013 19:27 (1 year ago) Permalink

the glory of the beat-up vinyl is that some of these albums have got really fun sleeves (inners *and* outers)

Better than the albums themselves arguably!

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2013 09:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 20:45 (1 year ago) Permalink

he still looks young there, but it wasn't too long before he died :(

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:11 (1 year ago) Permalink

I had to look up who EJ Gold was, interesting career there

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 7 August 2013 21:12 (1 year ago) Permalink

"jump into the fire" is so fantastic, i've just listened to it on repeat for a while

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 8 August 2013 06:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Interesting article on a sports website from a guy seemingly obsessed with Nilsson

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9529179/the-legacy-harry-nilsson

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 8 August 2013 14:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

thanks for that!

it's probably just the bass and the echo effects but does "jump into the fire" sound kind of dub-y to anyone else?

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

dub-y and, weirdly, a bit like the minutemen

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 9 August 2013 16:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 11 August 2013 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

Still waiting for Amazon to deliver mine, it's now 10 days late

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 12 August 2013 10:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

I see the Mercury album got a recent re-release also.

Mark G, Monday, 12 August 2013 10:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

fortheloveofharry.blogspot.com/

I don't got 'permission' to go in here anymore, what to do?

So far, I'm up to "Sandman", and I've not noticed a massive drop in quality..

Mark G, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 15:41 (8 months ago) Permalink

You haven't played "How to Write a Song" yet then

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 18:19 (8 months ago) Permalink

Possibly not.

Mark G, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 23:40 (8 months ago) Permalink

Actually, I had: It's not the greatest song on the album, but it ends well.

Also, the 'extra track' "A Tree out in the Yard" sounds a lot like Joe Strummer with the Mescaleros.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:13 (8 months ago) Permalink

"The Flying Saucer Song" is shite too

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:38 (8 months ago) Permalink

Thought I'd check out the lyrics:

http://www.songlyrics.com/harry-nilsson/the-flying-saucer-song-lyrics/

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:44 (8 months ago) Permalink

LOL, Harry thought it was one of the best things he'd ever written... Jesus, but cocaine is a dangerous drug

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:46 (8 months ago) Permalink

Actually, the one on "Sandman" is a little better than the 'extra' version on Pussy Cats.

Was litening to the "Pussy Cats" one first, thought it "funny" but wondered how anyone would listen to it more than once. A b-side, maybe.

The "Sandman" would just bear repeat, but a b-side nonetheless...

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:48 (8 months ago) Permalink

More like a z-side. Talking of cocaine, I do love "The Ivy Covered Walls"... and "Something True" of course.

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:51 (8 months ago) Permalink

What I don't understand is that his vocals are almost as pure and unblemished as in his heyday on both those tracks but definitely so on "The Ivy Covered Walls", so he must have had good and bad days

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 15:54 (8 months ago) Permalink

Well, yeah.

The legend goes, he never played live, and he shot his voice 'competing' with Lennon.

Had both those things been opposite, he could well have shot his voice that way.

Mark G, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 16:00 (8 months ago) Permalink


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