Women in electronic/dance music

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no not vocalists, no not DJs, i'm talking about the ladies with the balls (or at least just willingness and enthusiasm) to get on the synths, samplers and sequencers to actually PRODUCE the stuff - playing the notes, programming the drums, Eq'ing etc. (i class that as production rather than just standing next to the engineer nodding eagerly). here is where we list em

first that come to mind are:

Sister Bliss - i think she's a trained pianist and she's been intrinsic in production duties for Faithless alongside Rollo

Leila - i dont enough of her stuff sadly but i assume she produces it herself (?)

Marusha - mrs westbam but i'm sure she took control of production when it came to her own tracks...

details on Andrea Parker would be good...and just more of an insight into the level of musical input the female artists have in this kind of music would be useful.

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 16:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

kelly hand.

― michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

Saskia "Miss Djax" Slegers

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

Lady Dana
Lisa Lashes

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

Although it's quite difficult to find female producers who don't DJ as well.

DJ Astrid
Tatana

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

Charlotte "Lottie" Horne

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

talk about them and what they do if you can - are the tracks they produce actually any good?

who's kelly hand?

the others are all primarily DJs...i'm looking for actual musicians in the electronic field

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

Miss Shiva
Monika Kruse

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

Most male producers in electronic dance music are DJs too. And come to think of it, I can't name any non-dance producers at the moment...

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

Female ones, that is.

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

**Riz Maslen a.k.a. Neotropic is one of the few good women producers in electronic music...she's also a DJ and works on scores for independent films..check out her album "La Prochaine Fois",or her back catalogue on Ntone...definately check.
**Mira Calix -has released some quirky electronica (on the now rapidly disappointing(duh)giganto label monster that is WARP records)...maybe her style is a bit "undeveloped"
**Le Tigre is a fake thrashy/poppy/electrodisco/postpunk/lesbian/NYC girlgroup kinda band who,honestly,verge too much on the side of "indie" or "ex-rockers go gimmicky death-disco"-band to count as "electronic music",and their music is *really* bad too and WAY stupid,but..hey,they use synths!!..and samplers!! wee!!..;)
**and,of course,the now-defunct,infamous glitzy glam-disco death-electro silly poppy electronica of Blechtum from Blechdom..who,despite their stagenames Kevin and Blevin,both were girls..((check out "Haus de Snaus" on Tigerbeat6))and,as a small bird whispers in my ear,still perform with different,but musically similar,solo projects..(caught Blevin live this year,it was well worth it for the show alone IMHO)..
**...oh,i think there are more out there..just don't remember their names now...more later..

― Liv, Friday, 22 November 2002 17:39 (10 years ago) Permalink

broads of canada

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

the reason for this thread is that whereas you get female guitarists, drummers and keyboardists in pop and rock groups (altho obv its still severely male-dominated) you do not seem to get a fraction of as many women who just want to make electronic music which is even more male dominated and still regarded as a cold, hostile domain in general, at least when its not including dance music

what i'd like to see are more female engineers as well as female equivalents of Basement Jaxx and the like. maybe its not that relavant but havent you wondered why the girls tend to just want to dance to this stuff rather than actually MAKE it themselves? is it all just down to stifling stereotypes?

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

I was trying to research this last year for an article, and hit some very blank walls. There's iosolated chicks, but not many. Erm... oh, what was that girl I saw recently at the Arts Cafe? Printed Circuit? She's the only one that really springs to mind.

Here's an odd reason that will probably be shouted down (by myself) due to sexism. The very nature of dance music/electronics is the idea of one geek, alone in the bedroom twiddling knobs. (or up in a DJ booth twiddling knobs.) Geeks - women in the minority. Knobs - OK, I've just been looking at Barely Legal Teen Boys so I'm gonna steer clear of that one. But the way that women approach music is a communal thing, women often prefer to write in partnership, so the solo bedroom twiddling thing is not the preferred option. I'm too full of sugar to hone this into a fully formed opinion right now, but does anyone else know what I'm getting at?

It's just the way that I've seen women work when they create music, from having worked with so many of them...

― kate, Friday, 22 November 2002 17:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Lady Dana" van Dreeven: hardcore (gabber) and hardstyle DJ/producer. This years track "Ladies First" might be the most violent and over-the-top gabber tune I've heard in years (I'm sharing it on slsk by the way). As for her "proper" producing skills, well, that's difficult to say since that style isn't exactly challenging for any producer.

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

this is now making me think about what the male producers do themselves. i just remember this argument i had with someone about Beyonce's credit on the last Destiny's CHild album which i took automatically to mean 'oh she just chipped in with ideas about how things should actually sound, she didnt actually MAKE the sounds' and i'm always of the persuasion that the role of producer should include generating the music yourself to a major extent - with engineers adding their input at the later stage. is this right/fair? is this how an act like Basement Jaxx work themselves? you can envisage someone like Squarepusher doing practically EVERYTHING himself for example, and i think it would be a really cool thing to see someone that just so happens to be a woman working along the same lines, making similar music

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

Peaches. And let's not forget Bjork.

― Tag, Friday, 22 November 2002 17:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

Sister Bliss can play around 6 or 7 different instruments. She does all the fiddly tech studio work and says herself that Rollo has the grand vision, but has less to do with the actual making of sounds.

Miss Kittin does some producing.

Meat Katie for breaks.

Making electronic music is often a lonely and anti-social process, no other band members, much less interaction with your audience. It's not just that it puts off a lot of women, but is does seem to attract a particular kind of boy (yes, boy, not man)

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

This doesn't match my perception at all: I feel as if there are far more women in electronic music than in other genres. Even just here on my desk there's stuff by Takako Minekawa, Peaches, Chicks on Speed, Mira Calix, Nuriko Tujiko, and Swim with the Dolphins.

Anna, I am insulted.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

yeh thats the thing with people like Lady Dana, Miss Djax and even Lisa Lashes. its not that difficult to make that kind of thing and so it was probably a relatively easy process for these women to break into it compared to trying to get recognition as an electronic musician/producer like perhaps Mira Calix

i think kate is actually onto something in that boys are often brought up to believe its 'correct' for them to be interested in technology and want to sit in their bedrooms on their computers whereas this doesnt seem to happen with girls by and large

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

Clara Rockmore, down since day one.

― Alan N (Alan N), Friday, 22 November 2002 17:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

i dont think Bjork's input into how her stuff sounds is any greater than Beyonce's actually - sure they both know music and they know pop or whatever but they're not producers in the musician sense right? neither is Madonna, thats why she and Bork especially always recruit someone like William Orbit, Mirwais, Graham Massey or Matmos to create the music

nabisco makes a fair point - there are many female renegades in electronic music, but out of the ones she listed Peaches is the only one having any kind of modcium of commercial success...so the issue becomes more why cant women in electronic music be perceived as a commercially viable thing?

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

re Bork, i really dont know where the letters sometimes disappear to in my posts

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:00 (10 years ago) Permalink

interesting about Rollo and Sister Bliss too - i'd always assumed he did more of the music-making...he is of course a talented producer in his own right (Dusted, the old Rollo club tracks credited to just him) as is Sister Bliss

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

Anna, I am insulted

I didn't mean it as an absolute statement, honest. Just, generally ... anyway, you're only 25, don't sell your youth down the river young man.

NABISCO IS A SAD AND ISOLATED LOOSER!

*runs and hides, ha!*

― Anna (Anna), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

I don't know what everybody in the Rollo/Sister Bliss team does, but the engineering and mixing of most if not all their tracks are credited to either Goetz or Grippa (whoever these may be).

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

...boys are often brought up to believe...

The nature vs nurture debate starts now!

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

eh?

blueski, she co-produced post, homogenic and did most of vespertine herself. talk to ANY of her collaborators and they'll tell you she has extremely well-defined ideas as to how she wants the music to sound; if anything, her weakness is as an engineer, NOT as a producer/musician.

an across-the-board first impression consensus from collaborators past and present is that she's much more involved (ie. in terms of sheer detail -> the 'musician' bits) than they ever would have expected. (i mean, bear in mind she attended the reykjavik music conservatory from 5 to 15 and has been recording since 11.) so to dimiss her perceived input as on par with beyonce or madonna (onetime professional bjork piggybacker!) is a tad dismissive, and probably reflective of the bjork as kook mentality that she's admittedly brought upon herself...

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

Barbara Morgenstern!!! (on Monika records)

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 22 November 2002 18:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

I think Bjork does have a significant input (>75%?) into the music on her albums, she's just happy to share credit and loves collaborating.

All her albums sound like her and it's not just because of the voice. I've seen her on TV programming a laptop and using and SU10. I think she can probably writes scores to an extent.

No ones mentioned Nic Endo so far who does (or did) a lot of stuff for ATR, live she must be making 50% of the sound. I've seen Alec Empire with and without her and without her he was rubbish. Her replacement on that occasion was a man. Nic also has sole albums.

Le Tigre are fantastic!!!

How much does Missy Elliot do? She's usually credited with co-production I think, but it seems easy to assume she does the words and Timbaland the bleeps. Does she make the music too?

― meirion john lewis (mei), Friday, 22 November 2002 19:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

I forget the woman's name from People Like Us, but that's one, right?

― hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

I forget the woman's name from People Like Us, but that's one, right?

― hstencil, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

Great, no-one has mentioned Ellen Allien, so now I can. :) Stadtkind = a wonderful album.

― Omar, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:48 (10 years ago) Permalink

One of the members of Dat Politics is a woman - when I saw them live two years ago their policy on banging things seemed equal opportunity. Don't know about production, though.

― locus solus, Friday, 22 November 2002 19:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

Solex, Nicola Kuperus from Adult, Margaret Fiedler from Laika, DJ Rap/Charissa Saverio (Spiritual Aura stills sounds fabulous), Kemistry + Storm (Kemi Olusanya RIP)

― stevo (stevo), Friday, 22 November 2002 20:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

http://www.pinknoises.com/
There might be relevant info here.

― Honda (Honda), Friday, 22 November 2002 20:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

'Spiritual Aura' is credited to Engineers Without Fears so i dont think Severio was solely responsible - great track tho. i figure she had Beyonce-style production involvement on her later stuff too (Bad Girl. Good To Be Alive etc.)

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 22 November 2002 21:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

noone's mentioned Printed Circuit yet have they?
okay-ish feature in ctcl by one of them from electralene about 'electrrrronica'.
my friend irene has written/is writing a fanzine 'women in electronica'.
the first: Delia Derbyshire - dr. who soundtrack and other stuff

― s magnet, Friday, 22 November 2002 21:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

Andrea Parker, if memory serves me, is sort of electro, lots of rilly deep bass, in an alternately spacious/claustrophobic downtempo environment, though her DJ Kicks is electro-heavy. On her album proper, she even sings, and pretty well too. It's a little samey, though.

― Leee (Leee), Friday, 22 November 2002 22:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ive only got into hardhouse stuff but women seem to be fairly common at most residencies. As for producers I think Lisa Pinup does some of her own stuff, theres a few on this agencies books, dunno really much about that side of things.

http://www.sparkleproductions.freeserve.co.uk/djshardhousetechno.html

Siegbran or Steve have you ever seen Phil Reyonds play a set? What do you think of him?

― Kiwi, Saturday, 23 November 2002 00:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

Keven Blechdom &
Blevin Bectum

― dsico (dsico), Saturday, 23 November 2002 06:08 (10 years ago) Permalink

Maryanne Amacher.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 23 November 2002 08:31 (10 years ago) Permalink

the late, great and sadly missed lee newman from > 1

vicky from people like us

and.... the godmother of the whole shebang - bebe barron!

― stirmonster, Saturday, 23 November 2002 08:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

That dude from the Chemical Brothers.....

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ronan I heard they cut the hair and it's actually a man although its still hard to tell behind the tinted specs.

― Honda (Honda), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

And the other guy has yet to comment on anything ever.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

(it would be horrible if they somehow found this thread and thought I wasn't a massive fan)

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 23 November 2002 12:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

YO FAGGOT ASS HATIN MOFO FUCK YALL SHIT FAGGOT ASS WIGGA BITCH ILL FUCKING ILL FUCKING SEW YA EARS UP AND PLAY YOU BROTHERS GONNA WORK IT OUT AT THE WRONG SPEED FOR 3 DAYS WIGGA AND KEEP FEEDING YOU AND FEEDING YOU TILL BLAAAAM! MOFO HATIN ASS MOFFAFUCKER

― Tom & Ed, Saturday, 23 November 2002 17:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

Fernanda Porto: tho she got the fame from the DJ Patife remix, i think she produced her album all by herself

― Chupa-Cabras (vicc13), Saturday, 23 November 2002 18:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

Anjali. Great stuff.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 23 November 2002 19:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

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I'm listening to more Estroe stuff on YouTube, yes I like this. A lot.

― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

"Not everyone understands house music. It's a spiritual thing. A body thing. A soul thing"

(^_^)

― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

Um. OK, I don't understand house music then. Keep 'em coming, The Lex! I really enjoy the video linkage, good to have them all up in a line to listen to at work.

― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

(Do you have to understand something to like it or enjoy it, tho? perhaps another thread.)

― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sorry, not related to the post, but just thought I'd stick it here for clarity:

― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Just my little "joke", nothing personal.

― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

Anyone like Vera's stuff? Only just heard her because of her remix of clan destino's last single, moodsupport, really love this! 'hooked up with da drums" is pretty good too

― cherry blossom, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 12:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

And Miss Fitz/Mayaan Nidam, too.

― EDB, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 15:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh shit yeah i knew i was forgetting someone - really enjoyed the maayan nidam album this year. good late-night stuff.

― lex pretend, Wednesday, 1 July 2009 15:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah i like vera a lot, cherry blossom. will definitely check that remix. the first LLFO was one of my favorites from last year (ultra spacey minimal house tool)

― society for cutting up (tricky), Wednesday, 1 July 2009 18:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

i love vera, she's probably my favourite out of the whole oslo camp. very tracky in an aspect music/melchior productions sense. great dj as well.

― michael jatas (r1o natsume), Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

how comes kate bush never comes up in these discussions? the dreaming is one of the great fairlight albums imo

― michael jatas (r1o natsume), Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

― michael jatas (r1o natsume), Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

― the blowhard is the blowhard (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

beate bartel from liaison dangerouses?

― michael jatas (r1o natsume), Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

― the blowhard is the blowhard (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

delia and pauline, yes?

― psychgawsple, Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

also a fan of ursula...

http://blogs.sfweekly.com/shookdown/ursula%20bogner.jpg

― psychgawsple, Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

gah

― psychgawsple, Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

and we can't forget daphne!

― psychgawsple, Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

johanna beyer
clara rockmore
bebe barron
pauline oliveros
daphne oram
delia derbyshire
cathy berberian
ruth white
alice shields
wendy carlos
eliane radigue
daria semegen
joan labarbara
annea lockwood
ruth anderson
maggi payne
maryanne amacher
laurie spiegel

― Friday, August 27, 2004 5:49 AM (4 years ago)

micheline coulombe saint-marcoux
else marie pade
beatriz ferreyra
pril smiley
priscilla mclean
laurie anderson
mireille chamass-kyrou
monique rollin
megan roberts
constance demby
suzanne ciani

that's through 1980

― Milton Parker, Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

+ annette peacock
laetitia sonami
hildegard westerkamp
cynthia webster (have not heard her stuff, but she founded Synapse

― Milton Parker, Thursday, 2 July 2009 00:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Um, psychgawsple, isn't Ursual Bogner actually Jan Jelinek? And therefore not actually a woman?

― emil.y, Thursday, 2 July 2009 01:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oops, I mean Ursula Bogner, of course.

― emil.y, Thursday, 2 July 2009 01:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

as in Usual Boner? sorry, read it that way...

ALSO: cannot believe i fucking forgot ZEENA PARKINS.

also Carla Kihlstedt, from Sleepytime Gorilla Museum and Tin Hat Trio=== yeah, trad instrument but she uses lots of processors and pedals, etc.

― the blowhard is the blowhard (the table is the table), Thursday, 2 July 2009 01:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Also, I've only read the recent posts, but nobody seems to have mentioned DODDODO yet. Not doing a vast amount at the moment, but she did play a show earlier this year, so still around.

― emil.y, Thursday, 2 July 2009 01:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Um, psychgawsple, isn't Ursual Bogner actually Jan Jelinek? And therefore not actually a woman?

from what i know this is just speculation, since jelinek was behind the reissue, etc.

― psychgawsple, Thursday, 2 July 2009 06:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

also maryanne amacher deserves high honors for pulling off the feat of being the only artist who can consistently make me physically ill when i listen to their recordings

― psychgawsple, Thursday, 2 July 2009 06:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^fwiw i mean that as a compliment

― psychgawsple, Thursday, 2 July 2009 07:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

Also, I've only read the recent posts, but nobody seems to have mentioned DODDODO yet. Not doing a vast amount at the moment, but she did play a show earlier this year, so still around.

― emil.y, Thursday, July 2, 2009 1:57 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^truth!! 100% incomprehensible 100% entertainment

― Real Men Play On Words (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 July 2009 07:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

What the fuck was that burst of vitriol in aid of?

In fact, that's pretty creepy and more than slightly stalkeresque to not even write your own burst of vitriol, but to dig up and quote someone else's words from, like, several years ago? I kind of have some sympathy for Tombot, considering what he was going through at the time he was writing vitriolic stuff like that but to dig that out and repost it in a thread that has nothing to do with it is almost borderline psychotic.

..................................

Drawing a line under that,

Anyway, I think the reason that no one brought up such goddesses as Delia Derbyshire and Daphne Oram was that it would be nice if this thread concentrated on people *currently* making music.

― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 2 July 2009 08:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

Barging into this thread only to say that I wish both Solex and Mira Calix would release more albums (yes I know they're still working, but still)

Followups to pinknoises.com ?

― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 2 July 2009 09:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

(replying to 2-day-old posts time, Mira Calix xpost synchronicity)

Re Anja Schneider - I have seen some people dismissing her work as the product of her various co-producers.
ellen allien got a lot of the "so her boyfriend produced it?" remarks

Yeah, this seems a common thing with, ahem, Women In (not just) Electronic Music. The number of Autechre fanboys who'd get very upset about Mira Calix being terrible dull uninventive and not like their heroes at all, oh and by the way clearly Sean Booth writes all her tracks... well then why aren't they sparkling Autechresque genius? You can't have it both ways!

(I have no real axe to grind for her, but have read many IDM heads rant about her out of all proportion to her music, which I found a bit dull but hardly distinctively terrible or "the first bad act on Warp" as I have seen claimed, and not really shifting too many undeserved millions as far as I noticed)

also on the UK side of things is mary anne hobbes

I don't even know if Hobbs is another example of this, since I've heard "oh she just likes whatever her producer tells her is hot", but on the other hand her show seems so faddish that it almost made sense. And then I felt dirty for thinking that, since it's such a common dismissive trick.

― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 2 July 2009 10:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

hobbs has a lot of cred in the dubstep/uk bass scene, at least. "faddish" - people's taste changes, scenes come and go, esp the underground ones that she covers.

forgot akiko kiyama yesterday too...nothing on youtube. youtube is so bad for some of these.

― lex pretend, Thursday, 2 July 2009 10:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

I love the way Mira's music can be dry and unfriendly and academic, a lot of the moaners hate her because she doesn't pander. That said, her last album was a lot more colourful and conventionally pretty and generally all-round pleasurable.

― Milijas now living will never die (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 July 2009 10:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Why does she need her producer to tell her something's hot in order for her show to be faddish? Has she not ears of her own - or eyes - to read the blogosphere to tell her the same thing?

― Violent In Design (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 2 July 2009 10:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think the argument was that her show suddenly became predominantly dubstep at the same time as getting a new producer. No idea if the second part is true (suspect not, now I've written it down), but as I generally care for dubstep less than the technoish end of things I'd noticed the former.

But I'm sure a lot of other people's listening habits did the same, and it probably is just down to her own enthusiasm, and some genuine enthusiasm for new scenes and strains is good to hear on the radio, especially now most of that support seems to be bundled off onto 1xtra or whatever.

― a passing spacecadet, Thursday, 2 July 2009 10:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

The number of Autechre fanboys who'd get very upset about Mira Calix being terrible dull uninventive and not like their heroes at all, oh and by the way clearly Sean Booth writes all her tracks

Are they a couple then? Really glad I don't bother fucking with IDM msgboards or whatever, people who are *really into* the genre kind of seem like the worst people sometimes. I did however see a nightmarish clusterfuck when someone called Aunt Acid (who eventually released stuff as Syntheme, who I mentioned on the locked thread) uploaded some tracks on the Planet Mu forum - cue 100 douchebags convincing themselves that this was another Aphex pseudonym

― Real Men Play On Words (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 2 July 2009 10:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

kemistry and storm :(
tama sumo (supposedly doing the next panorama bar mix?)

― society for cutting up (tricky), Thursday, 2 July 2009 15:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

xpost. IDM heads are pretty loathsome. Once went to an Autechre gig and a guy in front of me, with a skinhead and a North Face jacket no less, said to someone on the phone, rather pointedly, "there's a big cue to get in, loads of indie kids", while looking askance at me, I had longish hair swept over in the front, a checked shirt and well-fitting pair of jeans and a pair of converse on so obv. must be an indie kid!

― the shock will be coupled with the need to dance (jim), Thursday, 2 July 2009 15:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

AGF is still making some pretty incredible records these days, imo

― psychgawsple, Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Once went to an Autechre gig and a guy in front of me, with a skinhead and a North Face jacket no less

for all you know that could have been rob brown hisself!

― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

i always say "loads of indie kids" on the phone to friends in tones of contempt - is the sign to move elsewhere, always

― lex pretend, Thursday, 2 July 2009 17:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

BE PREPARED:
to have your brain picked
to have the pickings misunderstood
to be mistreated whether your success increases or decreases
to have detraction move with admiration --- in step
to have your time wasted
your intentions distorted
the simplest relationships in your thoughts twisted
to be USED and MISUSED
to be "copy" to be copied to want to cope out cop out pull in and away
if you are a woman (and things are not utterly changed)
they will almost never believe you really did it
(what you did do)
they will worship you they will ignore you they will malign
you they will pamper you
they will try to take what you did as their own
(a woman doesn't understand her best discoveries after all)
they will patronize you humor you
try to sleep with you want you to transform them with your energy
they will berate your energy they will try to be part of your
sexuality they will deny your sexuality/or your work they
will depend on your for information for generosity they will
forget whatever help you give they will try to be heroic for
you they will not help you when they might they will bring
problems they will ignore your problems a few will appreciate deeply they will be loving you as what you do as what you
are loving how you are being they will of course be strong in
themselves and clear they will NOT be married to quiet
tame drones they will not say what a great mother you would
be or do you like to cook and where you might expect understanding and appreciation you must expect NOTHING then enjoy whatever gives-to-you as long as it does and however and NEVER justify yourself just do what you feel carry it strongly
yourself

― Turangalila, Thursday, 2 July 2009 19:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

jennifer cardini - probably most well known for her mix for kompakt, which i heartily endorse. it might be a bit sterile, but the tracklist and flow are expert. it's a spacious bouncy kompakt mix made with very few actual kompakt singles. neat. i was introduced to her by this mix way back in 2001 in paris. (on the same trip i got to hear a laurent garnier daft punk double bill at the rex. hell yes!)

tania vulcano - i rate her circoloco mix from last year: from sneak to freaks to mountain people. nice and atypical for a commercial ibiza mix.

― society for cutting up (tricky), Thursday, 2 July 2009 20:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

Akiko Kiyama is pretty good.

others to mention: Miss Jools/Sleeper Thief

― EDB, Saturday, 4 July 2009 00:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 years pass...

ubuweb has a full-text copy of Daphne Oram's An Individual Note: Of Music, Sound and Electronics: http://ubumexico.centro.org.mx/text/emr/books/oram_anindividual.pdf

― ayonanas (Matt P), Thursday, 30 August 2012 21:02 (8 months ago) Permalink

Emika! Her album is ok, her work compiling (and contributing to) the Funf compilation and her more recent track are more instrumental but maybe even better.

― your native bacon (mh), Thursday, 30 August 2012 21:14 (8 months ago) Permalink

there was a nice little box-out, and associated Spoitfy playlist in that new Electronic magazine full of this stuff. "The Electronic Music Archive At Spotify" if that helps (don't have spotify, and haven't heard all the following, anyway...)

Johanna M Beyer / Pauline Oliveros / Alice Shields / Ruth Anderson / Jean Eichelberger Ivey' / Ann McMillan / Sorrel Hays / Katherine Norman / Laurie Spiegel

― koogs, Thursday, 30 August 2012 22:13 (8 months ago) Permalink

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