Hüsker Dü Classic or Dud?

I just heard their cover of the Mary Tyler Moore theme "Love Is All Around"!!! Wow that is fucking cool as shit. Totally missed that during my entire recent Husker Du trip.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/MaryHat.jpg

HAHAAHAAHAH! WOOOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You made my night.

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because- i just had a thought

somefker remaster them or 'whatever' it is you do.please

everything they did

anybody questioning the Du's massive influence needs interrogating. they will be proven wrong

Remasters/reissues of the HD back catalogue have been held back indefinitely due to either a) the fact that the guys just can't get along, despite Mould being interested in handling things (which might be the problem right there) or b) the master tapes are lost in a dusty old box somewhere between Lawndale and Texas.

What a dull band.

It might all be the supposedly notorious bad transfers done by SST for their CDs, though, for all I know, I have nothing on vinyl. But everything sounds so thin!

Jack Brewer says that they paid some kid to drop a needle on the vinyl to 'master' many CD issues. Dude's got no reason to lie about that.

I said it on another thread about the SST stuff, but I think at some point Spot's production went awry whenever they got their first digital reverb, as everything went from being real cool and dry to sounding like it was recorded in the bat cave. Zen Arcade, My War and Double Nickels sound real sparse and then the follow ups of New Day Rising, In My Head, Project Mersh and 3-Way Tie for Last has bunches of reverb.

Actually, by the time those last three records came out, Spot had pretty much quit producing records for SST. He only had a hand in New Day Rising (on which Mould's guitars sound amazing, IMHO); Project: Mersh was Ethan James and Carducci, and 3-Way Tie was James again. I think SST must've had a hard-on for James because he used to be in Blue Cheer, but a lot of the stuff he produced sounds off.

What a dull band.

You've obviously never heard Metal Circus, then.

I thought they were great at the time, but posterity hasn't been kind. The whole wall-of-guitar-fuzz thang sounded shockingly fresh when I first heard it, but it was eventually done better harmonically by Sonic Youth, and melodically by My Bloody Valentine.

I still listen to SY and MBV regularly, but can't really be bothered with the Huskers these days. Also, they had the worst drum sound ever committed to tape. Not their fault I'm sure, but it still counts against them......

Remasters/reissues of the HD back catalogue have been held back indefinitely due to either a) the fact that the guys just can't get along, despite Mould being interested in handling things (which might be the problem right there) or b) the master tapes are lost in a dusty old box somewhere between Lawndale and Texas.

-- MacDara, Friday, August 15, 2008 11:56 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link

grant hart's famous quote: "We'll reunite - IN COURT!"

Raw Patrick. Sore Cunt.

You are so wrong sweetnuts. So fucking very wrong

remastering would probably help these to an extent but these albums were not recorded well to begin with, they are never going to sound amazing

sound good enough to me

grant hart's famous quote: "We'll reunite - IN COURT!"

Also, "We'll reunite when Bob comes down off his high horse... -- and Grant comes off his HORSE HIGH!"

"could you be the one" is better than anything sonic youth have ever done. MBV better than both though.

remastering would probably help these to an extent but these albums were not recorded well to begin with, they are never going to sound amazing

-- akm, Saturday, August 16, 2008 12:03 AM (19 hours ago) Bookmark Link

yeah listen to the originals on vinyl and it's not tons better.

but i've come to accept that spot was a terrible producer who for some reason was a perfect fit for husker du. i think that hellish hi-mid-range roar sort of saves husker from being more ordinary....i think if these records sounded "better" they would be worse.

Only ten slots between now and the Husker Du ILM poll. We might get into it by the time autumn closes in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NcZ5BwQukE

http://i.imgur.com/xUbslS7.jpg

done

spent the afternoon on a kick & i think grant hart might be my favorite rock songwriter of the era (defined as broadly as you like)

really hope they never get back together. but they better fucking get on with remastering the catalogue.

bob on that idea:

I haven’t given it that much thought. If it’s going to happen someday, I’m sure it would be a perfect storm, where everything just lines up all at once. But yeah I don’t push it, I don’t think about it. As I said before, I’m pretty busy these days, and keeping track of everything is a challenge.

so if god magically farts them out, then maybe.

I think SST must've had a hard-on for James because he used to be in Blue Cheer, but a lot of the stuff he produced sounds off.

I learn something new every day. I had no idea Ralph Burns Kellogg and Ethan James were the same dude.

woah, me neither!

the living end is a killer live album. i put it next to television "live at the old waldorf"

http://blog.thecurrent.org/2017/07/grant-hart-joined-by-greg-norton-dave-pirner-lori-barbero-at-emotional-hook-and-ladder-show/

jesus, grant looks rough

oh and i came in here with the intention of just posting CLASSIC without seeing why this was bumped but they need to remaster/reissue their records because HD is so under appreciated and under the radar in a way that seems insane to me, more kids that would love them are missing out

earlier today someone called a little drywall mistake a "husker du" and i said "oh...is that where that comes from?" and she said no, it wasn't

Wonder what the status on that Numero set is. Or whatever that was.

thanks for the bump i'm listening to Flip Your Wig now

Numero was previewing Everything Fall Apart remaster on Spotify.

i hope I'm not reading anything between the lines of that concert post.

Not super helpful wrt dates but looks like they might be getting a proper overview.

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2017/06/12/husker-du-box-set-numero-group/

I've heard so many mixed things. If Mould said Zen Arcade is off the table, and SST (as always) is part of the problem, then it's likely we're not seeing remasters of (many of) the albums. But I've also seen/read stories of Mould trying the muscle out the other guys, in which case we'd likely see ... nothing. But I've also seen/read accounts of HD sharing legal representation/signing contracts, so ... don't know what the holdup is. All those teased pictures imply live stuff, which would be awesome but not as awesome as remasters. Or maybe expanded remasters of stuff it can wrest from SST? Who knows. Don't see why they are all being so cagey is anything firm is afoot.

Any heavily teased massive project that does not involve some or all of the key albums would be a huge disappointment.

I can only guess that's partly accounting for the secrecy and delay, as they try to negotiate their way around whatever stumbling blocks still exist. But it seems unlikely to pay off, given it's not happened any time in the past 30 years anyway.

How did the Meat puppets get their material away from SST and how does that differ from the HD situation. Cos the Rykodisc cds were like 20 years ago. Not sure what the situation with their back catalogue is now though.
But then again there was less infighting i guess.

from what I know they worked with the same lawyers the puppets and dino Jr did but the contact was worse in some way

the set as I understand is remastered Everything Falls Apart, remastered Land Speed Record, the other set from the show LSR was recorded from, some odds n sods and outtakes, also I believe a PRE Landspeed live show where I guess they had material before they became a hardcore band that is more melodic and slower. apparently

I love Husker Du as much as Dylan or the Beatles or anybody. But in a weird way, this reminds me of when I worked in a record store in the mid-'80s--an overpriced upstairs adjunct to the main store downstairs, carrying '50s and '60 imports--and people kept asking about Dave Clark Five albums, then in legal limbo. It was amazing how much interest there was in them at that particular moment (maybe they'd been used in a film or a commercial?), and no one could buy anything except horrible re-recorded budget versions. I kept thinking that the Dave Clark Five and whoever owned the rights to their stuff should act quickly while people still cared, because in another 10 years no one will.

Think maybe it was Dave himself who was responsible for that

He screwed up releases of Ready Steady Go for a while, inserting DC5 performances where they shouldn't have been. & not issuing things that should have been.

there was something mentioned on Greg's fb page the other day but greg himself pretty much said hes not involved in it

I remember for years the Galaxie 500 albums were unavailable, and I'd also heard it was due to problems with Rough Trade. Then I interviewed Dean Wareham once, maybe c. "Penthouse," and asked him about it, and he was all, no, we have the rights, just haven't gotten around to them yet. At least the Huskers albums have never been out of print.

Dino, Meat Puppets, Sonic Youth all managed to get their records from SST, right? I assume Soundgarden, too?

re: DC5, yes, Dave Clark himself controlled their recordings. Whenever a reissue offer came his way, he asked for ridiculous money. Over time, as everything fell out of print, oldies stations stopped playing them -- no way to upgrade their old 45s or carts from those 45s -- and by the '90s they were forgotten. Clark was reduced to agreeing to release a substandard best-of CD on Hollywood Records...which I think is now out of print.

The PBS doc on him is unintentionally hilarious, and somehow omits the fact that he didn't even play on their best/biggest hits (Bobby Graham did).

Yeah Harold Bronson (cofounder of Rhino) had a great/telling story about this re DC5 a few years back

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harold-bronson/the-dave-clark-five-dave-_b_5091519.html

Problem is none of them get along and Bob has all the power because he still has a successful solo career and can basically pick up the phone and given day and get 20 grand to do a show.

I'm sure Ginn has a price but I'd guess that money would have to come from Bob and he doesn't need this to happen

Wow at that Huffpo article.

Because of Disney’s unfulfilled enticements — among them, getting the group’s songs into Disney movies and installing a DC5-themed cafe in the United Kingdom Pavilion at Disney World’s Epcot, Dave told me — he was able to extricate himself from the deal with five years left in the contract.

Grim thought but given the animus between Bob and Grant, do you think Bob is running out the clock waiting for Grant to kick the bucket or is that too dark even for HD

http://blog.thecurrent.org/2017/07/grant-hart-joined-by-greg-norton-dave-pirner-lori-barbero-at-emotional-hook-and-ladder-show/

― purrington, Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:47 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i hope I'm not reading anything between the lines of that concert post.

― pplains, Monday, July 3, 2017 12:23 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

:-(