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did anyone else ever notice how positive X is, by and large? i mean, for all the bluster, drowning in blood, and "ride or die, bitch" rhetoric, he's like a big ol puppy dog. for example, i direct you to the fourth track, "trina moe", from his 2001 album the great depression (aka the greatest album ever made.) wherein he says: "just between right and wrong is me/niggaz talk shit but you can't MC/we already know how much your watch is worth/talk about helpin the hurt and savin the church/why dont you brag about helpin out where you come from/and givin brothers a job that really want one"!! it's like blackalicious! but he can also brag later in the song "what, three niggaz/three months to go gold...15 million [sold]/nyeah nyeah nyeah nyeah nyeah!!"

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

also, he sounds like poopdeck pappy.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

maybe when i get home today i'll do my long awaited SONG BY SONG RUNDOWN of the great depression...

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

also, he sounds like poopdeck pappy.

Now THIS is what I needed to hear to finally pique my curiosity. (And that "Trina Moe" line you quoted reminds me of Outkast's "Red Velvet" for some reason.)

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

I love the line in "What's My Name" where, in the midst of a lot of braggadocio, he yells in that growly voice, "I'm NOT! a NICE! PERSON!" It always makes me chuckle.

― Yancey (ystrickler), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

DMX vs. Davy DMX vs. DMX Krew: FITE!!!

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm previewing this on barnesandnoble.com and DAMN. I know it might seem from a lot of the stuff I've posted here that I'm all "thug rap is BAD AND WRONG", but this shit bumps and I need to listen to more hip-hop that's all "I am going to KICK YOUR TEETH IN YOU BASTARD" just for balance. I am probably going to look for this record in the used bins when I get some spare scratch.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

when they first came out, i decribed Ja Rule as sounding like DMX but, y'know, good. this when DMX was up on rape charges and Ja seemed like a more grown up and listenable artist.

i may have to flip that one of these days.

― bucky wunderlick (bucky), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 22:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

i love 'Party Up' but i cant stand the bit on 'Who We Be' where he just sounds like a battered saxophone ('da-da, da-da, da-da!')

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 22:43 (10 years ago) Permalink

I love the line in "What's My Name" where, in the midst of a lot of braggadocio, he yells in that growly voice, "I'm NOT! a NICE! PERSON!" It always makes me chuckle.

haha, me too. "DON'T YOU KNOW I DON'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS?" :( Poor DMX, maybe he really is a puppydog after all!

This thread has piqued my interest, though. I think I softened up to the man after "Party Up". That song is undeniable.

― Alan N (Alan N), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 22:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

i'm glad nate didn't bring the hate. i admitted to liking el-p today! maybe this thread is the balance of the force.

anyway, here we go, track by track...

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

"sometimes" is the intro. but unlike kool keith on black elvis he doesn't feel the need to hammer this home for us. (can i be the only person to notice how much bubba sparxxx sounds like a less nasal kool keith when he tries to cram too many words into a bar?) instead it's open mic night at city lights! "sometimes i wonder what life's about! sometimes i wonder why i scream and shout!" damn. but don't dwell too much because "sometimes it rains too much to care!" MOLOCH! MOLOOOCH!! NIGHTMARE OF MOLOCH! oh no! gun shot sound effects!! OH NO!!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:06 (10 years ago) Permalink

"school street": this whole song is just X spitting the names of the people he used to know!! he sure did know a lot of people named "black (something)". i like it because he's not really saying anything other than reading through his yearbook, but he delivers it like cookie monster on uppers.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:09 (10 years ago) Permalink

"who we be" is the single. everyone knows this one, i guess. the work the game the jerk the fame the fishtick the lame home of the brave little orphan annie bo bannie banana fanna fo fannie. etc. i like blueski's "broken saxophone" analogy above. certainly sounds better than borbetomagus or arthyr doyle*!!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

(*i have never heard a borbetomagus or arthur doyle record. also, i'm a little upset they left the "i am dmx" kids off the record itself.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

"trina moe" i already talked about above.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:11 (10 years ago) Permalink

"we right here" doesn't do anything for me. simon reynolds called it "just the right side of insane." cool, whatever.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

"bloodline anthem": now we're talking! it sounds like thin lizzy! the guitar riff (yeah, a full on metal riff, not played through a korg or sampled [well, probably sampled] or anything] is lifted directly from some 70s or 80s monster jam, but damned if i know what it is. (alex in nyc to thread!) every time i hear it and the shrieking female chorus comes in, i think "kenickie", although i don't know why becuz i've never heard kenickie either!! this would have torn up pizzatime in '72! a deep dicking to rockist values!!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

(also contains the great opening couplet: "i like my blunts heavily hashed/bitches heavily assed"!)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

(also, in "we right here", he sez it's "the only joint gonna be banged til 2003." he's right!! i haven't listened to the blueprint in months.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

"shorty was the bomb": oops! x got tire tracks on his back from some trick who poked holes in the condom with a safety pin or some other kinda trick-y shit in order to get herself knocked up with x's baby cuz she thinks he's gonna take care of her broke ass. wrong! (also, this must be a flashback saga, becuz in "bloodline" he sez "nigga like me/married to the same bitch." aww.) the best parts of this song are the little between-line asides in the chorus. ("yeah, shorty was alright." "she sucked a mean dick, i'll tell you what.") he sounds like he should be auditioning for a gig in the catskills!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

"damien III": DMX is recast by the ghost of charlie daniels (nb: possibly not dead, check on this; also, possibly did not write this song) in a new version of "the devil went down to georgia." my in laws went to see "the education of randy newman" in seattle this weekend. can you imagine how much better that big pile of snoozing crap would be with DMX in the title role?! (i have no idea how this is related, but whereas am i going to get to discuss this?) anyway, DMX meets the devil on a street corner. the devil, in this case, being DMX with a squeaky voice. (almost as good as missy's coversation with herself on the new album, with her voice dropped down an octive or two so she sounds like biggie!) DevilMX and DMX discuss his fate and then DMX runs away like a big pussy! (actually, i think he asks for jesus to come save him, which is kind of a gray area.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

"when i'm nothing" is one of those great disco grooves reverse pioneered by irv gotti that ruled 2000-2001. there's something so simultaneously endearing, ridiculous, and perfect about pituitary retards like X and ja rule spitting over swirly strings, chimes, and chic-bass where say, sylvester should be instead. of course there's the prerequisite female diva voice to take the slight edge off. how come no one has picked up on the weird transubstatiation that's taken place in the hyper-masculine world of hiphop when thugs can rap over Faggot Disco Shit with no one batting an eye? chuck d must be spinning in his financial grave!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:33 (10 years ago) Permalink

"she sucked a mean dick, i'll tell you what."

I'm imagining this said in a Hank Hill voice and I swear I am going to die lauging with tears down my face.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

"i miss you" is the prerequisite post-"dear mama" familial lament. in this case it's grandma. you know the drill. X cries a bit, tells grandma how the rest of the family is doing (pretty good, by the sound of it), and faith evans creepily stands in for the role of the old lady by singing the "baby it's gonna be okay" chorus. faith, stop being pigeonholed as the siren of dead homiez before its too late!! its no wonder DMX is so fucked up when he talks about grandma whooping his ass and then hugging him. what kind of reinforcement is that?!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

mentasm stabs! it's 1999 all over again! call joey beltram's attorney!! he sure is pissed off in "number 11". (it's the 11th song, see? obviously someone didn't get his nap and his juice box in the studio that day.) he actually growls! like a puppy! hmmm. he talks about his back catalog again. god, he's worse than jay-z. at least this sounds like "holla holla" rather DJ Premier sampling that doors poetry CD my college girlfriend played until i wanted to scoop out my eyes with a spoon.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

track 12 is a skit. a car pulls up outside a bodega. the isley brothers or something is playing. is this a tarantino movie? guns being cocked! oh no!! something bad is going down...

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:42 (10 years ago) Permalink

"i'ma bang": christ this opening bass noise is sick! it sounds like swans! literally, not in some half-assed metaphorical "the sex-power-money grind of the thug lifestyle" way. "but it's gotta bang. IT HAS. TO. BANG." BLAM. and it does. for about the first thirty seconds. then he launches into another gift-of-gab-meets-the-guy from-burzum "i'm a righteous man" rant! someone needs to give him a dictionary with "cognitive dissonance" highlighted. (nb: this is the track that they're using for that banal-looking seagal movie where he breaks into alcatraz.) nice detuned guitar noizes before the choruses.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:47 (10 years ago) Permalink

"pull out": the car pulls away! what the hell happened?! you just know some shop keeper is lying over the honeydews with his brains splattered over the goya products, but damn, it would have been nice to have a litle closure! i blame MTV for my inability to process subtlty.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

"you could be blind" = filler. but nice spy hunter bass led filler.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:49 (10 years ago) Permalink

"prayer IV": wanna guess what this is? DMX HURTS INSIDE! feel his pain. dmx is not used to love. he needs to go on an EST retreat or a male bonding camp. "give the nutrition to me, and i'll digest it." is this a carcass record?? this is all getting a bit esoteric for me. finger creeping to the skip button...must..resist...

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:52 (10 years ago) Permalink

This is the greatest jess thread EVER. Goya!

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

"a minute for your son": of course they stick the best track at the end! who knew swizz didn't fall off? nice spongey electro-bings ala william orbit, ew wait no no. um, "pure shores"? sure. quavery extoica synth-voice riff which reminds me of nothing so much as "papua new guinea" or maybe 93/94 era ltj bukem if produced by 2 bad mice. erm, i'm getting a little music crit now, so i better wrap this up. it's good okay. download it, at least.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

man, this was exhausting. um, i'd like to give a shout out to the spizzzzzazzzzz crew for total inspiration, ilm for all the hugs and thugs, and of course jesus, mama, grandma, uncle ronnie, black rob, little kenny, cheeks, 2blak, chuckie nice-oh no!! bonus track!! OH NO!! really, oh no. who let these dogs out?! lyor what were you thinking okaying this?! arrrgh. anyway, i'm out! PEACE.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 23:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

man, this was exhausting.

But most worth it. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 November 2002 00:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

so i left her with the pressure on the next man’s arm
she’ll be aiight cuz shorty was da bomb!

"shorty" exemplifies the high moral code that x lives by--only sleep with hot women because they're going to be aiight regardless.

― dan (dan), Thursday, 14 November 2002 01:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

"Bitch dog, get at me dog, Rule nigga the boss, you always been a PUP now ain't it a pity, that you run into IG, dying to be me, but I pledge I N C, and for the love, I bleed it in blood and die from hot slugs, muthafuckas!" Ja Rule on new album.

― Honda (Honda), Thursday, 14 November 2002 02:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

"all nightmares, the light dares to desert me" take that, common!

stop being greedy vs what these bitches want

― boxcubed (boxcubed), Thursday, 14 November 2002 06:55 (10 years ago) Permalink

damnit jess you can't make me really really like DMX because now i'm starting to think that he's better than ja rule which would shatter my whole worldview.

go go last temptation rock the fuck over dmx and nas please.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 14 November 2002 08:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

now i'm starting to think that he's better than ja rule

How could this be anything other than axiomatic?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 November 2002 09:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

I never realized that "Party Up (Up In Here)" was by DMX. I only started hearing it on the radio relatively recently and due to the pleasantly excessive amount of crunk also being played I assumed it was by Bonecrusher (who I've never heard, I just thought this track sounded like how I assumed Bonecrusher would). I never thought I'd really like something by DMX but this song is fucking awesome. I just had to give it a shout-out.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

for something that's about five years old it sounds pretty current.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

On the strength of his singles DMX is probably the greatest rap artist of the past five years. I have no desire to listen to any of his albums though, because I get the feeling they're full of songs that sound like that thing he did with Marilyn Manson. Still...

"You're wack, you're twisted, you girl's a ho
You're broke, the kid ain't yours, and e'body know
Your old man say you stupid, you be like "So?"
"I love ma baby momma, I never let her go"
I'm tired of weak-ass niggaz whinin' over puss that don't belong to them
Fuck is wrong with them?"

THAT is how you right a verse.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

this was such a great thread, can't believe i missed it first time around. "fallin" still kills me.

― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:26 (8 years ago) Permalink

i mean "slippin".

― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:27 (8 years ago) Permalink

Which DMX song has the video that's in black and white, sort of grainy and scratched and he's all torn up inside?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:31 (8 years ago) Permalink

wow, "when i'm nothing" really *is* about as lush as rap gets, forget girlsx3 or whatever. coulda been called "since i left you (bleeding in the street)".

― m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 15 June 2004 21:44 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

First Snoop and now...

Rapper DMX was arrested at London's Heathrow airport yesterday (May 13) for allegedly verbally abusing the cabin crew on a flight to England. According to police, DMX, born Earl Simmons, refused to button his seatbelt as the plane started its final descent. After the plane had landed, the 35-year-old rapper continued a verbal tired aimed at the flight's crew. The captain alerted police, who arrested DMX when the flight landed around 12:00 pm. "Heathrow Police were called at 12.05pm on Saturday to reports of a passenger causing a disturbance on an inbound aircraft," a Scotland Yard official said in a statement. "The plane landed at approximately 12.15pm and a 35-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of being verbally abusive to cabin crew." Police said they released the rapper with a caution.

For the full story log on: http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=5671

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

I am amused that the story spells 'tirade' as 'tired.'

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 18:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

"Ruff Ryder's Anthem" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything by these newjacks

― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2008 07:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

TALK IS CHEAP MOTHERFUCKER

― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2008 07:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

OH YOU THOUGHT YOU WAS RAW?
BOOM! NOT ANY MORE

― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2008 07:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

NIGGAZ WANNA TRY
NIGGAZ WANNA LIE
MY NIGGAZ WONDER WHY
NIGGAZ WANNA DIE

― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2008 07:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

MIND YOUR BUSINESS LADY

― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2008 07:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

GIVE A DOG A BONE
LEAVE A DOG ALONE
LET A DOG ROAM AND HE'LL FIND HIS WAY HOME

― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2008 07:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

but I digress

― The Reverend, Saturday, 26 January 2008 07:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

once again, i am happy that Ned is a DMX fan.

― Eisbaer, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 05:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

i saw him this summer

was okay

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 March 2008 05:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

he's got blood on his dick cause he fucked a corpse

― joedee, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 10:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

Muthafuckah rip your butthole right out of place!

― windjamm voyager (blank), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 07:26 (8 months ago) Permalink

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