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Being largely a community of music critics, I'm curious as to what people's opinions are of this fledgling publication that my brother is putting out (http://www.arthurmag.com). Especially since one of its major aims is to provide a venue for serious writing/"think" pieces that would never see the light of day in pricey, mainstream mags... I'm also curious to see who here is even familiar with it, as distribution is pretty haphazard at this point.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 20:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

i should add that the online distribution is now possible in PDF format... @ ~5MB.

gygax!, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:01 (10 years ago) Permalink

Is your brother Laris? Some of the contributors to Arthur post here, if I'm not mistaken. I'm in awe of his ambition & ability to get good writers together -- Arthur looks amazing & I really hope it makes it. No distro in Virginia though!

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:02 (10 years ago) Permalink

My brother is Jay Babcock, the editor. Of the ILMers, I know Ronan is a contributor, not sure about anyone else....? As for Virginia distribution - if you want a bunch of copies to pass out on your own, just e-mail Jay or Laris, I'm sure they'd welcome the help. This is all being done DIY/volunteer, etc.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

I picked it up a couple of weeks ago & I like it a lot. Tell your brother to keep up the good work!

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

How nutty! I picked this up at Terrastock and have already written your brother to see if he wants more writers. :-) He said yes so I have to think of ideas...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

I like it a lot. Thurston writes about the Germs as well as anyone ever has, and it's always good to read Byron Coley.

dan (dan), Wednesday, 13 November 2002 21:38 (10 years ago) Permalink


i still couldn't find copies at cody's in east bay last weekend... oh well...

m.

msp, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 22:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

I was told that Cody's actually is out of the 200 copies we sent them. Amoeba in SF is out too. There will be more on the way - I know Aquarius in the Mission has some.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 November 2002 22:44 (10 years ago) Permalink

Looks like good stuff - though not so interested by the BMX thing - but maybe the article reads well.

tigerclawskank, Thursday, 14 November 2002 10:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

It's terrific! When's the next one coming out?

Arthur (Arthur), Thursday, 14 November 2002 17:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

Huh? I'm a contributor??

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 November 2002 17:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

Bah, Arthur, you just like seeing YOUR NAME IN LIGHTS. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 November 2002 17:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

I made a movie????

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 November 2002 17:10 (10 years ago) Permalink

I does as I pleases, baby.

Sorry, I didn't want to make a silly joke cause I really really do LOVE this magazine.

Ronan, you should be a contributor. Aside from Ian S.'s Peaches article, there isn't much on dance music, I don't think.

Arthur (Arthur), Thursday, 14 November 2002 17:19 (10 years ago) Permalink

my mistake - I think the contributing Ronan is Ronan Ro...? There's some identity confusion going on here obv.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 14 November 2002 18:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'll contribute something, especially if it makes WILD CONFUSING NAME MADNESS. I'm doing some stuff in the next week hopefully.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 14 November 2002 20:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...
new issue is out (much better than the 1st, in me opinion), available for download here: http://www.arthurmag.com/arthur2.pdf.

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 01:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

I agree, it is even better than the first one. The Rushkoff/P-Orridge discussion is one of the more interesting things I've read in a while, and the Caetano Veloso autobiography excerpt is great too!

Nice one.

die9o (dhadis), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 20:16 (10 years ago) Permalink

Wah, I want one. Must search.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 20:53 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ned, what city are you in?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 23:15 (10 years ago) Permalink

costa mesa hates ned

gygax!, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 23:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

I see someone else is a Supernova fan. ;-) And yes, Costa Mesa, CA.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 January 2003 02:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

I can't remember where Costa Mesa is to pick out which place from this list is closest, but these are the "distribution points" in the LA area (Santa Monica, the Valley, Pasadena, Inland Empire, etc.): Abbot's Habit, Amir's Falafel, Amoeba Records, Aroma Capuccino, Aron's Records, Atomic Records, Bergamot Station, Beyond Baroque, Book Soup, Bourgeois Pig, Brand Books, Buster's, Cafe Tropical, CalArts Chooinard Hall, Cal Tech coffeehouses, Canterbury Records, Casbah Cafe, Cinefile, Circus of Books (Silver Lake), Coffee Fix, Coin Laundry (Sunset), Comics Ink, Counterpoint, Destroy All Music, Downbeat Cafe, Dutton's Books (N. Hollywood), Eastside Recods, Ecstasy, Espresso Mi Cultura, Fat Beats (Melrose), Fatty's, Golden Apple Comics, Gourmet Coffee Warehouse, Headline Records, Heavy Rotation, Iliad Books, Insomnia, Jennifer's Coffee, Jerry's Video Rerun, Labor Fruit, Laemmle Sunset 5, Largo, Launderland (Hyperion/Glendale-Los Feliz), Launderland (Sunset-Silver Lake), Los Feliz 3, Meltdown Comics and Toys, Midnight Special, Moby Disc (Sherman Oaks), New Beverly Cinema,Nova Express, The Novel, The Nuart, Penny Lane (Westwood), Pepe O'Briens (West L.A.), Poo-Bah's (Pasadena), Pull My Daisy, Rae's, Record Surplus, Red Hot Video, Rhino Records (Westwood), Rhino Records (Claremont),The Rialto, The Royal, Rudy's Barbershop, Sea Level Records, Second Spin, Skylight Books, The Smell, Soul Folks Cafe, Spaceland, The Standard, Taang's Records, Thirfty Wash, Tower (Glendale), Tower (Hollywood), Tsunami/Come 2 Mama, 20/20 Video, UCLA, various places on Melrose, Vidiots, The Vista.

Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:40 (10 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...
C and D - C/D?


(my aunt used to be mayor of Costa Mesa)

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 10:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

Mike - Nah. "C & D" is a tip of the hat to "A & B" from Gabe Alvarez/Brent Rollins-era RapPages.

JayBabcock (jabbercocky), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 17:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...
Um, so I just got word that Arthur is apparently RIP.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

really, ned?

bb, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

From Jay B. himself.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

that would be news to me. I know they've had some difficulties (Laris vs. Jay FITE!) but when I spoke to Jay about a week ago I was given every indication that Arthur was in the clear and getting back on its feet.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

!!! wtf

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:07 (6 years ago) Permalink

Really? Damn. A sad day. Even with all the hippie crap, I always looked forward to reading it. With the exception of anything related to "majick" and the totally useless ColeyMoore circlejerk , it was a damn fine way to spend an afternoon. Plus occasional Marc Bell cartoons! What more ya want(ed)?

Pye Poudre, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:09 (6 years ago) Permalink

Really? Damn. Even with all the indie crap, I always looked forward to reading it.

heh, j/k.

still RIP if this is the case. a GREAT read, rare these days.

BATTAGS, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:22 (6 years ago) Permalink

what the heck i finally subscribed to this

The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah i heard that arthur's toast, too. super bummer.

hstencil, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:43 (6 years ago) Permalink

its true. I can't comment further tho.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

Godsmack strikes again!

mcddcm, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:53 (6 years ago) Permalink

well, balls...

i know people didn't always dig byron/thurston's flim-flam, but it always gave plenty of stuff to look into with the endorsment of a coupla guys that have been trawling through that sort of muck for a deadlong time without telling you what to think of it. it was a nod and a suggestion, at best.

it takes guts to pour yr pockets and yr guts into something that sholdn't work and try and stand up for the kinda culture you think is worth highlighting when you know damnedwell even the people that probably agree with you are gonna spend most of their time throwing stones. a paper like Arthtur is an important thing for us to have in this day and age. it was a paper with personality and a vested interest in trying new things without always selling something or being right in the eyes of the hordes in this culture of selfish mediocrity.

bb, Friday, 23 February 2007 19:58 (6 years ago) Permalink

That really sucks, enjoyed this mag from issue 1.

Mark Rich@rdson, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:12 (6 years ago) Permalink

bb otm. I love the Thurston/Coley column. And I'll miss Arthur. Maybe they should have charged for it?

mcddcm, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:13 (6 years ago) Permalink

I would have paid for it. And I'm a thrower of stones.

Pye Poudre, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:21 (6 years ago) Permalink

it was a good mag .... after the "levitating the Pentagon" issue I was hooked

dmr, Friday, 23 February 2007 20:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

was issue 25 the final one?

really enjoyed the TV on the Radio interview, and the AK47 pieces.

RIP.

Cameron Octigan, Monday, 26 February 2007 00:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

An LA Times story that briefly outlines the deeper situation.

Also, news of a wake on Thursday:

Come celebrate the happy, all-too-brief life of Arthur Magazine with free giveaways and a reading featuring Molly Frances, Oliver Hall, and Peter Relic.

Thursday, March 1, 7:30pm

Family Bookstore, 436 N. Fairfax Avenue (across the street from Canter's Deli), Los Angeles, 90036.
Arthur's "New Herbalist" columnist Molly Frances incited a revolution nationwide by informing readers of the true powers of almonds, sprigs of mint, and Lord Byron's secret potion (a.k.a. apple cider vinegar). Molly's eerily prescient horoscopes have been known to strike the melodic funny-bone of even the most determined non-believer. Tonight Molly will be giving astrological readings as well as tripling any double entendre at hand.

Oliver Hall penned Arthur's cover story on Kim Gordon and memorably profiled folk radicals Faun Fables. He is the statuesque guitarist with L.A.'s newest psych-rock sensation E.S.P.S., and is seldom seen without his trusty Patsy Cline t-shirt. Tonight Hall will be dispensing priceless aphorisms as well as deconstructing the pungent, multi-faceted phrase "no money, no honey."

Peter Relic eulogized Jam Master Jay and went on the road with the Black Keys and Sleater-Kinney for Arthur. Relic's profile of the Geto Boys, reprinted in Da Capo's Best American Music Writing 2006, was deemed by Seattle's The Stranger to be "easily one of the most surreal, violent, and ludicrous artists encounters ever documented." Tonight Relic will be reading from his storehouse of pantoums, an unjustly obscure Malaysian poetic form.

We look forward to seeing you there -- dressing in black not a requirement!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2007 02:37 (6 years ago) Permalink

The response from the publisher if you're interested.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2007 17:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

more:
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/runninscared/archives/2007/02/freak_flags_fly.php

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:31 (6 years ago) Permalink

Laris still owes me $35 from a piece I wrote for Sound Collector Audio Review in 2002.

Mark Rich@rdson, Monday, 26 February 2007 21:51 (6 years ago) Permalink

RIP. I've known of the differences in opinion for some time but never commented, so as not to meddle where I've no business meddling. Sorry they were unable to come to terms, and that things fell apart in such a public, weird way (of course, after the whole Godsmack thing I cannot say I am surprised).

I will miss 'Arthur,' for sure, but I have to say that I miss 'SCAR' and 'Sound Collector' a heck of a lot more. I look forward to seeing MORE LARIS in the publications he works on (and yeah, he probably owes me a few bucks from SC days but it's not a 'Raygun' sized thing with me -- we're talking pennies, relatively.)

Mike McGooney-gal, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

sound collector was the coolest.

i will miss arthur. and, yeah, i would have paid for it too.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:06 (6 years ago) Permalink

that's sad. i liked this magazine.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:52 (6 years ago) Permalink

One more for the Whinester -

jaywbabcock, Saturday, 17 November 2012 04:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

Who should I touch base with to become a contributor, Jay?

Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 17 November 2012 05:08 (6 months ago) Permalink

this is the best news.

and $5 is a killer deal. i wouldnt even blink at $10.

now jay: any chance at another run of tuff wizard shirts?

alpine static, Saturday, 17 November 2012 05:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

I'd always meant to subscribe but it was free at the record store, so, uh. But now, problem solved, money sent.

Mike Dixn, Saturday, 17 November 2012 05:44 (6 months ago) Permalink

I just wanted to let jay know that the essay about the AK-47 has stuck with me all these years.

sarahell, Saturday, 17 November 2012 07:36 (6 months ago) Permalink

awesome AWESOME news

Chuck_Norris_on_the_topic_of_obesity (stevie), Saturday, 17 November 2012 13:13 (6 months ago) Permalink

Thanks ladies. Raymond, you can touch base with me. Alpine Static - I dunno. Sarahell - I know, right?

jaywbabcock, Saturday, 17 November 2012 19:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

And Mike Dixn: Thx for the dough. Glad you had a store that carried Arthur in the old days — which one was it?

jaywbabcock, Saturday, 17 November 2012 19:47 (6 months ago) Permalink

I admit I should say something more having posted that link and all. Got a couple of ideas kicking around...

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 November 2012 19:56 (6 months ago) Permalink

fwiw fyi there is this: New York Times - Media Decoder

jaywbabcock, Saturday, 17 November 2012 20:35 (6 months ago) Permalink

Also, something that wasn't mentioned in that initial announcement and didn't get picked up in the Times piece was this, and I can't emphasize it enough really: In this new incarnation of Arthur, everyone who contributes to the magazine actually gets paid. In the old days it was labor love and credit cards for everybody but the art directors (who worked way way way below market rate) and ad salespeople (who worked strictly commission — a hard way to be). This is made possible by the readers. And of course, it is made possible by the fact that Arthur existed previously... so the new reality of Arthur, like most new realities, is built on a combination of new sitch plus past blood, sweat and tears.

jaywbabcock, Saturday, 17 November 2012 20:39 (6 months ago) Permalink

all the best with this, jay. fantastic news and the business model seems sound - ideal, in fact. i hope to see (and buy) it in the UK at some point.

jed_, Saturday, 17 November 2012 20:42 (6 months ago) Permalink

jed - thank you, it took four years in the wilderness (3 of those kinda literally! haha) to get back to this place. I was able to avoid bankruptcy, that was one of the main things. Oy. So many people have been so generous.
As for getting the mag in the UK: I would advise pre-ordering it direct from us.

jaywbabcock, Saturday, 17 November 2012 20:47 (6 months ago) Permalink

I sent you a message on FB, Jay

Raymond Cummings, Saturday, 17 November 2012 22:46 (6 months ago) Permalink

<i>Glad you had a store that carried Arthur in the old days — which one was it?<i>
Reckless Records and Laurie's Planet of Sound in Chicago. I'm pretty sure I picked up almost every issue - maybe not the first few, looking at your cover gallery, #3 might have been my first - at one of those places and passed them off along with the latest Roctobers to a trucker friend whenever he was in town.

Mike Dixn, Sunday, 18 November 2012 00:37 (6 months ago) Permalink

Thanks

Raymond Cummings, Sunday, 18 November 2012 21:02 (6 months ago) Permalink

Mike Dixn: That's right, making mags for needy truckers since '02. Thanks for passing it along...

jaywbabcock, Monday, 19 November 2012 15:20 (6 months ago) Permalink

My new-Arthur wishlist:

As much Erik Davis as possible

Original comics content (by which I just mean comics done for the mag as opposed to coverage/reviews of comics)

you only write about... pleassssure (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:48 (5 months ago) Permalink

Jon Lewis: You will like Arthur No. 33 very much on the second count—I think. First count, not so much... but Erik will be back later.

jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:52 (5 months ago) Permalink

Cool x 2.

Actually, are you reviewing comics/graphic novels as well? I wanna make sure my publisher (who does Gabrielle Bell, James Romberger, me and others) has you on his comp list...

you only write about... pleassssure (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 20:19 (5 months ago) Permalink

Hey there Jay, I subscribed right before you stopped printing and only ever received the Sparks and Galas issues. Any chance my subscription will be re-started?

Moodles, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 20:27 (5 months ago) Permalink

Jon - Byron & Thurston review comics/graphic novels all the time.

jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:27 (5 months ago) Permalink

Moodies - Check it out: http://arthurmag.com/info-for-old-subscribers/

jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:29 (5 months ago) Permalink

cool, we'll use the submission-for-review info for Bull Tongue on that link you posted earlier.

xpost

you only write about... pleassssure (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:33 (5 months ago) Permalink

has arthur the magazine ever written about arthur the russell?
just a thought...

t**t, Thursday, 29 November 2012 16:50 (5 months ago) Permalink

t**t - no. not sure there's a need at this point, given all the coverage elsewhere. tell me if there is...

jaywbabcock, Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:51 (5 months ago) Permalink

Heya Jay, dropped a line via the submissions link the other day, dunno if you got it...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 November 2012 23:52 (5 months ago) Permalink

Ned - Nope... Weird! Hmm.

jaywbabcock, Friday, 30 November 2012 04:00 (5 months ago) Permalink

Ned - Thx for pointing this out. Some email was not being forwarded. Now it is. AWLLLLRITE!

jaywbabcock, Friday, 30 November 2012 04:32 (5 months ago) Permalink

man, this Arthur thing has been lacking

Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 30 November 2012 04:33 (5 months ago) Permalink

glad you're back

Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 30 November 2012 04:33 (5 months ago) Permalink

"Jay,

I wasn't an Arthur subscriber for a long period of time (issue 27 with Celebration was when I began), but it had a profound affect on my while it was in my life. Just wanted to say thanks upon thanks."

lol gmail search

Andrew Sandwich, Friday, 30 November 2012 04:49 (5 months ago) Permalink

Andrew - Too much!

jaywbabcock, Friday, 30 November 2012 22:16 (5 months ago) Permalink

Byron Coley & Thurston Moore just handed in their columnage for first new Arthur in 4 years. Psyched to get to publish these old dudes again.

jaywbabcock, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:22 (5 months ago) Permalink

Ha! Cool

Jay I will have a second pitch for you soon, the wheels are grinding

Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:44 (5 months ago) Permalink

Jay, will the 'no ads except on back cover' thing be an ongoing standard? Is that one big ad or several smaller ones? Curious for my publisher.

my other pug is a stillsuit (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:25 (5 months ago) Permalink

Jon - Probably, yeah. Back coverS, actually, as there are two sections — in this issue, at least. Maybe in the next issue, there will be 3 sections, who knows. Ads are a real bitch to handle for a ton of reasons, and we protect ourselves by limiting them in this way. It's worked out really well for us. Your publisher can get in touch with us thru normal channels.

jaywbabcock, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:42 (5 months ago) Permalink

fwiw -

jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:43 (5 months ago) Permalink

Dig it

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:44 (5 months ago) Permalink

lookin' good. psyched for the jack rose feature. three years since he passed away!

tylerw, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:50 (5 months ago) Permalink

3 years to the day. Very spooky.

jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:50 (5 months ago) Permalink

looks AMAZING

That symptom is fucking my wife (stevie), Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:52 (5 months ago) Permalink

Oops - meant to add - here's some more details on contents and how to get a copy and so on, if you're interested - Arthur website

jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:55 (5 months ago) Permalink

love that

alpine static, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:57 (5 months ago) Permalink

rip jack rose

alpine static, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 19:57 (5 months ago) Permalink

My copy came in the mail today. I haven't cracked it open yet, but the cover looks fantastic.

Mike Dixn, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 01:12 (5 months ago) Permalink

resurrected arthur is a thing of beauty!

tylerw, Friday, 28 December 2012 15:39 (4 months ago) Permalink

Just got my copy yesterday

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 December 2012 19:56 (4 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

New issue is at the printer. 8 more color pages, more music coverage in this issue than last one.

After 20-plus years navigating strange, inspiring trips across myriad underground psychedelic terrains with a host of fellow free folk, righteous musician/head MATT VALENTINE (MV&EE, Tower Recordings, etc) finally spills all possible beans in an unprecedented, career-summarizing, ridiculously footnoted epic interview by BYRON COLEY. Plus: Deep archival photo finds from the MV vaults, a sidebar wander through some important MV listening experiences with your guide Dan Ireton, and a gorgeous cover painting by ARIK ROPER of MV & EE at peace in the cosmic wild. Delicious!

Also in this issue:

Psychedelic scholars Christian Ratsch and Claudia Muller-Ebeling lay down a rap about this planet’s AROMATIC APHRODISIACS, with art by Kira Mardikes…

Gabe Soria chats with author AUSTIN GROSSMAN (Soon I Will Be Invincible) about the basic weirdness of playing (and making) VIDEO GAMES, with art by Ron Rege, Jr….

LA Record’s Chris Ziegler encounters young Southern California psych-rock band FEEDING PEOPLE, with photography by Ward Robinson…

All-new full-color comics by Lale Westvind, Will Sweeney, Vanessa Davis and Jonny Negron…

A lengthy interview with the remarkable ecstatic cartographer DAVID CHAIM SMITH by Jay Babcock, with massive reproductions of his out-of-time artwork…

Stewart Voegtlin on what (or: who) made MELVINS’ 1992 beercrusher “Lysol” the most unlikely religious record ever built, with art by Stewart’s Chips N Beer mag compatriot Beaver…

Columns by the ever-provocative “Weedeater” Nance Klehm and The Center for Tactical Magic…

Byron Coley and Thurston Moore’s essential underground review column, Bull Tongue, now expanded to two giant pages…

jaywbabcock, Saturday, 23 February 2013 18:05 (3 months ago) Permalink


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