when did Sonic Youth peak

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Sonic Youth basically sucked until 1995, and peaked in 2006

― flappy bird, Friday, May 12, 2017 1:25 AM (twelve hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

whereupon they began to actually suck

― sleepingbag, Friday, May 12, 2017 2:10 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is maybe the most backwards-ass thing I have ever read

― The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, May 12, 2017 9:13 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

smh at the notion that the intricate guitarplay of Sister, Daydream et al. could be described as "vacuum cleaner", have you actually heard these records?

― attention vampire (MatthewK), Friday, May 12, 2017 9:26 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

People should start new threads instead of using this thread as a test kitchen for potentially interesting discussions / clusterfucks

― your cognitive privilege (El Tomboto), Friday, May 12, 2017 9:27 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

poll

― baby boomer death wave (bizarro gazzara), Friday, May 12, 2017 9:34 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

80s
90s
00s


flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:37 (two weeks ago) Permalink

they have not yet peaked

mark s, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:39 (two weeks ago) Permalink

yeah they just need to apply themselves

flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:40 (two weeks ago) Permalink

As a cultural force in the 80s. As a musical force, in the 90s. Their best album (NYC G&F) came out in the 00's. I'll vote for 80s, back when they were mysterious and interesting.

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:42 (two weeks ago) Permalink

the only sy *album* i can still be bothered with is brave men run, although lots of highlights elsewhere

plax (ico), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I only like Daydream Nation. Dirty was meh. Didn't like Confusion is Sex or Evol or Bad Moon Rising. Haven't heard anything else. Maybe I should.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:45 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I'm not sure if it's possible to stress to people who weren't around in the 80's how out there they seemed. You could seriously freak out friends by putting on their albums. That wasn't true in 90s or 00s.

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:47 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Their best album (NYC G&F)

I only like Daydream Nation.

Feel like these should be the poll options

imago, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

ya 80s

apart from dn best 80s release was imo their actual ep sonic youth

lots of gems spread out in the 90s and 00s tho

i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:48 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I seriously freaked out friends from school with Dirty in the 90s but they were pretty square tbf.
2xp

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:49 (two weeks ago) Permalink

DN is fine and i enjoy it but imo the decline started there

marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:50 (two weeks ago) Permalink

they obviously peaked with 'the diamond sea', anyone who says otherwise is lying to themselves and to ilx

imago, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Music obviously peaked with "The Diamond Sea".

- me at 16

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:53 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I only like Daydream Nation. Dirty was meh. Didn't like Confusion is Sex or Evol or Bad Moon Rising. Haven't heard anything else. Maybe I should.

Completely great quote. I hate Rubber Soul and Revolver and Sgt. Pepper. Liked Abbey Road (for the most part, that Octopus Garden song is something else). Haven't heard anything else. Maybe I should.

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:54 (two weeks ago) Permalink

clue's in the name xp

imago, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:55 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Diamond Sea is a million minutes of Thurston planning to cheat on his wife.

Ultimately, I think I'll go with Dirty Boots as the center of their cultural and musical impact, even though I like lots of other things much more, and have voted 80s.

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

They obviously peaked in whichever decade the respondent was 16 in.

emil.y, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:56 (two weeks ago) Permalink

What about those of us who were 16 before they existed?

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:57 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i liked the 90s stuff in high school. my band covered 100%, i thought mote was a really cool track, and i listened to a cassette of experimental jet set in my car a bunch. because i wasn't really around/aware it was hard for me to understand the reverence for their older material at that time.
now i would say the best album would be a combination of evol and sister. never got into daydream nation beyond teenage riot and eric's trip.

mizzell, Friday, 12 May 2017 17:58 (two weeks ago) Permalink

C&P (insane) discussion from other thread:

sonic youth peaked in the 80s and basically sucked after that

― marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 11:16 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nah nm i don't actually feel that way

― marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 11:16 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

slow but distinct decline with interesting interludes

― The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 11:21 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's better

― marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 11:22 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

They got good when they discovered phaser and chorus pedals on Washing Machine.

the 80s records all sound like SHIT, horrible thin & flat production, almost as bad as Spot's work with Hüsker Dü. Daydream Nation has riffs but it sounds horrible. Goo onwards they had good production but ehh

― flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 12:26 (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

music talk should really be quarantined to ILM, for the sake of all the innocents

dmac is exempt from this, obv

― brimstead, Friday, 12 May 2017 12:28 (twenty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

80s SY is straight noise rock lol who cares about production

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:30 (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the SY records that were "produced well" are boring as shit

― marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 12:31 (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Teenage Riot is one of the best riffs of all time, but that shit sounds weak on record. It's quiet & flat.

― flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 12:33 (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'll start a new thread in ILM

― flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 12:33 (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think if there's one person on this board whose views on music I can reliably disgree with it's flappy bird.

― Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:34 (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idk those 80s records sound fine to me. sister especially

― marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 12:36 (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ye mad puffin i think is referring to their live shows

sy the little princesses that they are have said they sometimes didnt feel like playing songs so played huge walls of sound and feedback sometimes, mostly in the 90s im gonna say

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:37 (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sister and EVOL definitely sound better than Daydream Nation, and yeah I like all these records, but they could be so much better. I hate when shit production stifles great songs, most egregious example is Teenage Riot.

― flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 12:38 (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

anyway i started a different thread, moving on w/ nonmusical controversial opinions um..... Eyes Wide Shut is the best Kubrick movie

― flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 12:39 (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

on White Light White Heat you can barely make out the drums what is up with that shitty production? for christ's sake learn how to mix properly

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:39 (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

apples n oranges my dude. Teenage Riot is an anthem and the production doesn't serve it well. and fwiw i love the production on every VU record. i'm not saying everything needs to have big booming production, just that these particular records would've been served well by it.

― flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 12:41 (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

xp

bullshit punk rock diy ethos

― i n f i n i t y (∞), Friday, 12 May 2017 12:43 (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

this is their peak

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 12 May 2017 17:59 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Possibly true. I'd like to see which of their videos had the most play on MTV.

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Music obviously peaked with "The Diamond Sea".

- me at 16

same

tylerw, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:01 (two weeks ago) Permalink

They obviously peaked in whichever decade the respondent was 16 in.

― emil.y, Friday, May 12, 2017 1:56 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. I was 13 when Rather Ripped came out, it was the first new SY record that came out after I had become a fan. I got Murray Street that summer and it's been my favorite ever since. Glad I got to see them in 2009.

What about those of us who were 16 before they existed?

― dlp9001, Friday, May 12, 2017 1:57 PM (fifty-five seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

y'all can attest to the mystery and cultural impact they had at first!

flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:02 (two weeks ago) Permalink

also in the 90s, they had a larger presence as arbiters of cool than a band, ime.

mizzell, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Honestly, they seem completely irrelevant now, and we should really be talking about some band that the Spotify algorithm likes. Consigned to the dustbin of history.

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:03 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Like, isn't there some North Korean band that glenn likes that should be taking their place in this discussion?

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Evol-Sister was the peak and both sound fat as fuck imo

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

man I'm listening to A Thousand Leaves right now, it's so good, they really fell in love with phaser pedals

flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:05 (two weeks ago) Permalink

xp yeah EVOL and Sister have p good production, but imo the songs on Daydream Nation are better

flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:06 (two weeks ago) Permalink

They peaked with Daydream Nation, you can't surpass Teenage Riot.

Grantman, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

they actually did, it's called "Rain on Tin"

flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:07 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i guess as they got songier i loved them less but Sister at least has a bunch of great songs even if i don't love "Schizophrenia"

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:08 (two weeks ago) Permalink

and i've got no problem with anthemic but it's not a thing i associate with or want from SY

The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:09 (two weeks ago) Permalink

DN might be their best album and imo Trilogy is the best thing on it

imago, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

They never really mastered songwriting, and hence music was forced to rely on the likes of Steve Kipner and other professionals. Thank god songwriting was recovered from the ignorant masses. It's the only reason we still have music as we know it today...

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Sonic Nurse and Rather Ripped are two of their best albums. So many good tunes.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

'88-94

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:10 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Evol-Sister was the peak and both sound fat as fuck imo

― The Remoans of the May (Noodle Vague), Friday, May 12, 2017 2:05 PM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm. i'd add bad moon rising too

marcos, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Good questions to ask: why were they important (or were they). Which albums were important in terms of musical history.

I'm sure that Sonic Nurse and Rather Ripped are the correct answers. Thanks, fuckwad, or whatever your name is. Amazing tunes, whooo!

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:13 (two weeks ago) Permalink

alfred otm, NYC G&F thru Rather Ripped is easily their best run.

flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

EVOL/Sister for me too. I was 16 in 1992 though *blows minds*

tbh I at least like most of their stuff from all decades

Colonel Poo, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:14 (two weeks ago) Permalink

NYC G&F is an outlier, thanks to stolen equipment and a credulous bass player....

dlp9001, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:15 (two weeks ago) Permalink

listening to NYC G&F for the first time in a while, never noticed the O'Rourkian glitch-fest at the end of the first track.

flappy bird, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:20 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Their mid-80s run (Bad Moon Rising/Evol/Sister/Daydream Nation) is great, Goo is a misstep, Dirty is crap, Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star is almost good, and everything afterward is completely irrelevant.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

A cord and a pedal and a life that'll do for now

calstars, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:22 (two weeks ago) Permalink

tbh I at least like most of their stuff from all decades

― Colonel Poo, Friday, 12 May 2017 13:14 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is true for me too but I guess I would place the peak in the 80s, since those five main studio albums still seem another-level to me. First, I was a little intrigued by flappy bird's comments on production, considering how someone born in 1993 might have no reference point for a time when it was a lot more difficult and expensive to get recording fidelity. But then he went and liked the production on Evol and Sister so that's probably not what's going on.

I hate most of that Ciccone Youth thing, though.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:24 (two weeks ago) Permalink

I do rate Murray Street about as high as the 80s albums, though!

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 12 May 2017 18:26 (two weeks ago) Permalink

i've never liked the production on daydream nation: everything seems masked, sister has a much richer sound

mark s, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:29 (two weeks ago) Permalink

For me the turning point was seeing them supported by Pavement in 92. Pavement just felt so inspired in comparison - I didn't feel the need to see SY again. Hence my vote for 80s.

Grantman, Friday, 12 May 2017 18:30 (two weeks ago) Permalink

Sonic youth has a bimodal distribution of goodness in the 80s and 00s. They are one of the greatest rock n roll bands in the history of the genre.

nice cage (m bison), Saturday, 13 May 2017 17:30 (one week ago) Permalink

I was around and paying attention when Murray Street came out and I remember it being praised and then I bought it and was disappointed at how boring it was

I listened in a store and thought it sounded boring as fuck. My friend really wanted to see them when she visited me in Montreal, even though she also thought the then-new album was garbage, so I bought a ticket. They completely blew us away live. I bought the album and found it underwhelming. (Derek Bailey's Ballads was my aoty.) Somehow things about it kept drawing me back until it became one of the SY albums I played the most.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 May 2017 18:02 (one week ago) Permalink

murray street hooked me from jump. it's sometimes my favorite SY album which cycles with DN and sister.

nice cage (m bison), Saturday, 13 May 2017 18:09 (one week ago) Permalink

00s 4 lyfe

J. Sam, Saturday, 13 May 2017 19:08 (one week ago) Permalink

favorite SY album is Sister but I feel like the whole concept of "peaking" is kind of ridiculous tbh. they've made a ton of interesting music since then, and I'm more likely to listen to lots of it than I am to haul Sister out of mothballs. album ranking is...fun, I know, but probably the least interesting way of thinking about an artist's work

tl;dr, 80s

People like Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 13 May 2017 19:21 (one week ago) Permalink

never heard of sonic youth

Guy Pidgeotto (Tom Violence), Saturday, 13 May 2017 19:36 (one week ago) Permalink

I listened to them first on the bavarian radio around 1987, it was quite noisy avant stuff, interesting but it did not really convince me. I got hooked in summer 1992 when Dirty was released. It was my entrance ticket to them and I will always consider it as their apex. What I really loved about this album was that there were so many songs on it and that they were so short and full of punch. Long guitar dominated pieces à la Grateful Dead never did it for me. Dirty was like a punk revival, fast songs right into the face of the listener. And at the same time these songs had hooks and the lyrics were fun to decipher in theory. Which I never really did of course. Listening to Dirty on full blast with eight speakers in a car going 120 mph on the German motorway is one of the most rejuvenating experiences in life.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Saturday, 13 May 2017 19:46 (one week ago) Permalink

What is the general opinion on Experimental Jet Set? I gather it's nobody's favorite but "Bull in the Heather" was my first exposure to SY in middle school and it rocked

LimbsKing, Saturday, 13 May 2017 19:51 (one week ago) Permalink

love bull in the heather

plax (ico), Saturday, 13 May 2017 19:54 (one week ago) Permalink

i bought it the day it came out - clear vinyl iirc - and did not play it too much after that :/

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:00 (one week ago) Permalink

Not enough love for Evol in this thread, I mean how good an album must be to get praise.

― Van Horn Street, Saturday, May 13, 2017 12:35 AM (fifteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Expressway to your skull, Shadow of a doubt, Tom Violence, Green Light, Secret Girls, that's peak SY for me.

― Van Horn Street, Saturday, May 13, 2017 12:38 AM (fifteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is where the thread peaked

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:01 (one week ago) Permalink

yah, Evol is good. EJSTNS is top 3 for me, still. the quiet/muted production is fresh, coming off of Dirty, and there's dank, deep atmosphere to it. love the variety of songs and raw feel of it. Androgynous Mind, Starfield Road*, Screaming Skull, Bone, Tokyo Eye, and Sweet Shine are great tracks. the only bum song is Self-Obsessed and Sexxee (Disconnection Notice), shit. the drumming on Waist is great, and the unusual, canal boat guitar sounds during the outro of Doctor's orders. also, an interesting album to listen to individual stereo channels, guitar tracks are hard-panned. no Lee vocals, though

*kills

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:15 (one week ago) Permalink

What is the general opinion on Experimental Jet Set?

Bought it week of release, liked it a lot at the time (mentioned it above as a brief return to form after the suckiness of Dirty) but haven't listened to it in years. Might revisit it this weekend, though.

Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr, and Violent J (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:15 (one week ago) Permalink

xp EJSTNS = secret origin point for long jammy 00s Sonic Youth

Someone on ILX said something to the effect that "Disconnection Notice" sounded like a super stretched-out version of "Self-Obsessed and Sexxee" and I think that might be true of other MS songs sounding like extended jammy versions of Jet Set songs like "Sympathy for the Strawberry" (Bone) and even "Rain on Tin" (Tokyo Eye)

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:25 (one week ago) Permalink

i posted that a few years ago, about Disconnection Notice resembling Self-Obsessed.. also, compare the instrumental breaks of Becuz and Dude Ranch Nurse -- they're bizarrely similar

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:32 (one week ago) Permalink

NERD is the best of the commercial trilogy.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:38 (one week ago) Permalink

fuckin autocorrect

Experimental obv

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:38 (one week ago) Permalink

For me, the band peaked for the entire duration of 'Death Valley '69' the very first time that I heard it.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 13 May 2017 20:41 (one week ago) Permalink

In high school, I listened to all the albums without distinguishing that much between them. Later, I grew to think that EJSTNS was their worst album and never listened to it. (Evol was my favourite for years.) I pulled EJSTNS out again when I read KG's book, though, and was surprised by how well it clicked, although I still wouldn't rank it among their better albums. "Self-Obsessed and Sexxee" is one of my favourite songs on it, actually, despite the "party party party/party all the time" bit.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:00 (one week ago) Permalink

I sometimes wonder if obsessive SY listening as a teenager set my ear for pitch and tuning back severely and made ear training as an adult that much harder.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:04 (one week ago) Permalink

w pipeline/kill time

johnny crunch, Saturday, 13 May 2017 21:05 (one week ago) Permalink

# of album listeners is interesting anecdotally:
https://www.last.fm/music/Sonic+Youth/+albums

campreverb, Saturday, 13 May 2017 22:32 (one week ago) Permalink

For me, the band peaked for the entire duration of 'Death Valley '69' the very first time that I heard it.

now you mention it

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 13 May 2017 23:04 (one week ago) Permalink

xp I get what Flappy Bird was saying about the production on DN sounding flat - took me time initially get it, I had always imagined it sounding more like Television/what Murray Street ended up sounding like (DN being the first SY CD I had bought and thus heard). Now I think it adds to its atmosphere, a claustrophobic element – there's no air on that record at all.

Always thought Sister was overrated - has really high peaks itself but a bunch of duds on the record.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 14 May 2017 06:01 (one week ago) Permalink

When did SY peak? Answer: during this song (great sound btw AND two basses)

EvR, Sunday, 14 May 2017 08:41 (one week ago) Permalink

Evol, Sister and Daydream are the most consistent. Goo has some really mediocre songs mixed with a few good ones. I do like the breezy-jammy-summery mood and perfected sound of some of their later melodic albums, like Murray Street, which is up there.

Nabozo, Sunday, 14 May 2017 15:36 (one week ago) Permalink

xp I get what Flappy Bird was saying about the production on DN sounding flat - took me time initially get it, I had always imagined it sounding more like Television/what Murray Street ended up sounding like (DN being the first SY CD I had bought and thus heard). Now I think it adds to its atmosphere, a claustrophobic element – there's no air on that record at all.

― in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, May 14, 2017 2:01 AM (fourteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's crazy the way the drums are mixed! they sound like paper! that's an interesting take i hadn't thought of - I'll listen to DN and reevaluate, and I'll listen to it LOUD...

flappy bird, Sunday, 14 May 2017 20:20 (one week ago) Permalink

Flappy, which release of DN are you listening to?

Does anything from 1988 sound like Murray Street?

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 14 May 2017 20:31 (one week ago) Permalink

the 2005 reissue/deluxe edition

and yeah, EVOL and Sister sound great.

flappy bird, Sunday, 14 May 2017 20:34 (one week ago) Permalink

Oh, dude, the deluxe edition is remastered really hot. The drums got squashed. The 1993 DGC CD sounds pretty different: it has more space and the drums are cleaner.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 14 May 2017 20:36 (one week ago) Permalink

oh word, i'll check that out then

flappy bird, Sunday, 14 May 2017 20:38 (one week ago) Permalink

thanks for the heads up! i love a lot of the songs on DN but never got obsessed w/ it

flappy bird, Sunday, 14 May 2017 20:38 (one week ago) Permalink

You can really hear the difference on e.g. the drum fills after ≈5:05 in "Teenage Riot".

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 14 May 2017 20:44 (one week ago) Permalink

more space

More dynamic range anyway. I sort of get the 'claustrophobic' point.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Sunday, 14 May 2017 20:51 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess this is an ultra-conventional opinion but "DN" is still my favorite SY album and has been pretty much since I first heard it, which was a bit after I heard "Goo" and "Dirty", and before I heard "Sister" or "EVOL". "EVOL" through "Goo" is my favorite SY run, though I also like "Murray Street" a lot.

o. nate, Monday, 15 May 2017 01:13 (one week ago) Permalink

sweet shine is the one on EJTNS that presages the kind of more polite, modal, jammy period of SY from washing machine onwards.

linee, Monday, 15 May 2017 03:31 (one week ago) Permalink

really weird to see thurston rocking a les paul in that conan clip flappy bird posted - if ever there was a band who seemed less likely to be jimmy-paging it up with a low-slung gibson...

i guess i'm a corny received-wisdom fuck cuz my favourite periods of sy are sister-evol-daydream nation and murray street-sonic nurse-rather ripped, although i'll stan for bad moon rising anytime too

the guitar breaks in 'unmade bed' are some of my favourite-ever guitar sounds, not just sonic youth ones

The Patricia Routledge Meatspin Gif Has Made You Gay (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 May 2017 10:13 (one week ago) Permalink

My favorite SY albums are EVOL, Dirty, and Thousand Leaves, and I mean, obv they sound like completely different bands on each of those. I guess I feel like they peaked at least once every decade, which is why I'm not voting!

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 15 May 2017 17:00 (one week ago) Permalink

Also, "Sweet Shine" is easily my favorite song on Experimental so I guess that's pretty congruent with my opinions xp to linee

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 15 May 2017 17:02 (one week ago) Permalink

xxp ha i thought it was fitting & funny that for a tv appearance promoting their most out there experimental album ever, Thurston would play a standard issue Les Paul.

flappy bird, Monday, 15 May 2017 17:25 (one week ago) Permalink

EVOL is tremendous

marcos, Monday, 15 May 2017 17:45 (one week ago) Permalink

xp haha I like Lee & Thurston's matching Terrence and Phillip guitar decals

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 15 May 2017 17:55 (one week ago) Permalink

i love the way that song ends - you keep expecting everyone to drop out, but they just gradually play quieter and weaker until it ends in a whimper

flappy bird, Tuesday, 16 May 2017 04:05 (one week ago) Permalink

sorry, a bit OT.. i feel like they (BEAK) somehow captured the feel of "expressway to yr skull" on this song:
https://beak.bandcamp.com/track/kidney - maybe it's just the loping quality of it

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 16 May 2017 19:38 (one week ago) Permalink

I can see it.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 02:52 (one week ago) Permalink

WOO
I'M CUMIN HOOOOMMMME

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 03:15 (one week ago) Permalink

Multiple peaks. Murray Street was their most recent peak but the records since then all had much to recommend them.

Alfred, Sweet Shine would have to be in my Sonic Youth Top 10. Kim's vocals on that track are sublime.

pickety third (stevie), Wednesday, 17 May 2017 11:29 (one week ago) Permalink

I love the seven album stretch from '83 to'92.

fav album: Sister
fav song: Starpower

nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 15:10 (one week ago) Permalink

listened to this show yesterday and I'm willing to say it's a Sonic Youth Peak https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/152688686497/sonic-youth-cats-cradle-carrboro-north

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 15:26 (one week ago) Permalink

yeah that show is so sweet - i had no idea they did two sets on the 2000 tour. there's some videos from that tour on youtube, but i haven't found any with O'Rourke performing his solo material.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 May 2017 16:35 (one week ago) Permalink


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