every song from starboy placed in the hot 100 its first week but the weeknd has 2 hits off that album so far
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 February 2017 06:29 (seven years ago) link
But now that seems to be changing. The songs that reach top 10 via streaming hang around longer these days because other formats start picking them up from there. That's what happened to Black Beatles, for instance. It's a new set of rules.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 06:33 (seven years ago) link
i wasn't trying to "own" anyone, i just think it sounds funny to say a song's not a hit except in the way we track hits, but y'all know how that stuff works better than me
― alpine static, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 06:53 (seven years ago) link
fake hit
― suggest bannon (||||||||), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 07:16 (seven years ago) link
weingars, get to, droppin, when that, drake-o, get to, poppin [fddrrrr]
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 07:27 (seven years ago) link
sometimes differentiating between a one month and six month hit matters a lot anthropologically but less so with 't-shirt' bc it is a super rad banger duh
whichever prevailing current u may opine it is most aided by (4real zeitgeist wave, industry ersatz hypebestiality, meme magic, or ppl's personal bubbles where they care about neither) (or... all of them at once *gasp*) it is v disingenuous rhetoric to imply that it only has marginal/negligible appeal beyond that. foh with the timmy turner
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 07:39 (seven years ago) link
Timmy Turner reached #34 on the Hot 100, which makes it a minor hit but no t-shirt.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 07:45 (seven years ago) link
Bad and Boujee was a hit because of streaming. And then it was a hit in other formats - because of streaming. Same thing happened with Juju and most other rap hits that no one thought were real hits.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:03 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm aware dumbass. What is wrong with you guys
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:28 (seven years ago) link
― alpine static, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:53 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
"We"
Suddenly going top 40 is a "minor hit" ? You guys have to make up your mind here about whether you're going to be strict charts constructionists or not around something other than the migos hypebeast cycle
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:30 (seven years ago) link
If you're talking Timmy Turner, dumbass, then yes. Since it was his follow up to a Hot 100 #1 hit and was massively hyped, I'd consider it a minor hit at 34.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:40 (seven years ago) link
T shirt has so far peaked at 37....
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:46 (seven years ago) link
"...and Migos' "T-Shirt," from Culture, vaults 37-19." http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7678133/hot-100-ed-sheeran-shape-of-you-zayn-taylor-swift-surge-to
I was replying to J0rdan's "there's a long phenomenon of songs having short bursts of chart relevancy at the very beginning of their life cycles going back to itunes sales getting incorporated into chart data" - the point being that such long phenomenas are changing so that the past might not be the best way of assessing what will happen to a song like T-Shirt. Also, the weeknd is a strange point of comparison since his chart success largely derives from him catering to the old business model of letting the label take care of the marketing, writing songs for radio etc etc. He's not playing the Migos game.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:53 (seven years ago) link
no, what's changing is that songs that should have been bigger are getting more attention, but it doesn't change songs artificially launched into the top cf 'timmy turner' or 't-shirt'...per rtc tho yes t shirt is better than timmy turner
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:39 (seven years ago) link
if t-shirt had come pre- bad & boujee, it would not be a hit
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:40 (seven years ago) link
'say sum' is more of a hit than 't shirt' it just had the bad fortune to come before the colossus that is 'bad & boujee'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ16egvquKE
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:41 (seven years ago) link
Also, the weeknd is a strange point of comparison since his chart success largely derives from him catering to the old business model of letting the label take care of the marketing, writing songs for radio etc etc. He's not playing the Migos game.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 2:53 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
also you're kidding yourself if you think migos aren't 'writing songs for radio'
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:43 (seven years ago) link
Well good luck with your alternative facts, deej. Every song comes out after another song. And Migos are writing the same type of songs that they always did about the same subject matter. That they do it better than on their last album and have developed their pop sensibilities quite a bit does not make Culture comparable to Starboy, sorry. Radio plays Bad & Boujee because it is already a hit but B&B was not written for radio and radio didn't make it a hit in the first place.
What's "artificial" about the streaming charts though? Those are the songs listeners actively seek out, unless you want to make an argument about playlists like Rap Caviar "skewing" the stats. As mentioned above, today T-Shirt is at number 7 on the US spotify chart: https://spotifycharts.com/regional/us/daily/latest How does that not reflect its actual popularity?
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:49 (seven years ago) link
They should have put cocoon on the album though.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:54 (seven years ago) link
agree its obv not another breakthru full spectrum cultural moment like 'b&b' but no one was rly claiming that either
"songs artificially launched into the top" there is a fine diff between zeitgeist and hypebeast and u know this... both distortive but only one is artificial
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:10 (seven years ago) link
i might add by the by that it actually sounds awesome on the radio but i suppose the relevance of that depends on what radio is being discussed
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:13 (seven years ago) link
wait why does streaming numbers not count into what is a hit?
isn't that the dominant form of music listening now?
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:17 (seven years ago) link
if you search for "Migos" on apple music and tap on Bad and Boujee (probably why ppl are searching for Migos atm) then T-Shirt will start auto-playing after it finishes
if that happens on at least one other service, we know at least the first ten seconds of T-Shirt will be a hit because it takes a sec to hit the back button
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:23 (seven years ago) link
mama told me that streaming don't work, one-hit wonder just like Truth Hurts
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:31 (seven years ago) link
testing this on alexa
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:52 (seven years ago) link
wo wo wo wo
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:53 (seven years ago) link
ah the good uzi verse nice to enjoy it
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:56 (seven years ago) link
so far the tracklist from asking alexa to "play migos" (via spotify) is1 bad n boujee2 hit juug
lol?
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:00 (seven years ago) link
ive asked alexa to play migos prob 5 times and ive never heard this song before
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:01 (seven years ago) link
3 thank u god
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:02 (seven years ago) link
maybe she thinks its time to mix it up
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:05 (seven years ago) link
4 free offset freestyle
sounds like a bad font
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:06 (seven years ago) link
5 what u doin feat gucci
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:08 (seven years ago) link
ok im gonna skip songs til i hear tshirt
ok weve got our second culture song at 6 kelly price
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link
listening to call casting at 17
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:15 (seven years ago) link
:) i like this song a lot its cool
ok its playing thank u god again whatever ive got things 2 do, seems random except the first song, shd look at their api seem what the options are
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:23 (seven years ago) link
my alexa is bad & boujee
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 17:57 (seven years ago) link
"kelly price" was the other one that sounded like a huge hit in waiting to me, as well as "t-shirt"
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:11 (seven years ago) link
I heard "T-Shirt" this morning on 99 JAMZ after J. Cole and it was like stepping into a room stinking of good weed after leaving one full of school kids farting.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:16 (seven years ago) link
evocative
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:19 (seven years ago) link
be real was j. cole rapping about his farts
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:22 (seven years ago) link
― blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 10:17 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol i remember this board taking a very different position on this back in the kreayshawn era when it would have counted for something
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:33 (seven years ago) link
but oh billboard hadn't told you it was ok to think it was a hit yet
I miss the days when we could all rally together about kreayshawn
― mh 😏, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:37 (seven years ago) link
Kreayshawn Street Time will never die
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:38 (seven years ago) link
oh fuck TEAM
goddammit sorry everyone
― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:39 (seven years ago) link
Here ya go... when "t-shirt" crosses the 57 million youtube view rubicon i will consider myself defeated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WJFjXtHcy4
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:20 (seven years ago) link
i would watch that but billboard just told me its ok to have lunch so ima do that
― alpine static, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:21 (seven years ago) link
Supastars is actually pretty great, btw. It’s no t-shirt but it has grown on me.
And the verses on WTF were good iirc? The problem was that they didn’t quite come together as songs, and that there weren’t many real hits.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 5 May 2018 08:14 (six years ago) link
XpostCulture II and Wu Tang Forever aren't New Jerseys they are Use Your Illusions, a thing I just made up
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 May 2018 12:14 (six years ago) link
Sounds about right. Sr3mm is somehow NOT a UYI though.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Saturday, 5 May 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link
Man wu tang forever is way better than this... culture ii is if wu tang forever was recorded by Das efx... migos are not young millennial wu tang I’m offended
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link
I do agree they’re both UYA’s though
"young millennial wu tang"
finally found my rapper name thanks
― 21st savagery fox (m bison), Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
migos needs more guys if they want to be wu-tang the wu had like 25 guys ghostface killer, ugly sword, the gnarly monk and so forth
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
and several of those guys released classic solo albums before 'wu tang forever' dropped
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:31 (six years ago) link
who can forget gnarley monk's 'surf ninjas' lp
Yeah I mean I don't think they are on Wu's level
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/2CUoH6U.png
― lag∞n, Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
i wonder how that's aged
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link
Culture II and Wu Tang Forever aren't New Jerseys they are Use Your Illusions, a thing I just made up
whoa
― I am Larry Bird I always make the trey (rip van wanko), Saturday, 5 May 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link
Wasn't comparing the quality of their work!
Comparing the cultural spot they find themselves in both heading into and out of the follow-up to their breakthrough.
― mr.raffles, Saturday, 5 May 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link
The new Takeoff tape is the best Migos-fronted release of the year
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 November 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
low bar lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
well yeah, but it is good
― fred-a van vleet (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 November 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
Have we talked ab out Culture III at all yet?
― Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Monday, 19 July 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link
Wearing my “t-shirt” today
― Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 July 2021 16:45 (two years ago) link
quavo and takeoff announced a new rap duo and offset unfollowed them both on instagram 🙀 is it possible that they are amigos no longer??
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:39 (one year ago) link
yeah
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link
gonna be an awkward family reunion
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Thursday, 19 May 2022 22:45 (one year ago) link