Migos, "T-Shirt"

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This song will be a hit. 32
This song will not be a hit. 7


Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 6 February 2017 21:23 (three months ago) Permalink

Let's define "hit" as charting in the the Top 10 of the Billboard Hot 100.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 6 February 2017 21:25 (three months ago) Permalink

Or maybe Top 20?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 6 February 2017 21:26 (three months ago) Permalink

i think it will be a minor hit

lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2017 21:29 (three months ago) Permalink

We should let deej define "hit" because his ridiculous idea of what is a "hit" might be like his definition of "dated"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 6 February 2017 21:32 (three months ago) Permalink

Top 10 in the US Spotify Chart right now, 813,919 plays per day--probably gonna move up in the Hot 100 this week from #37 last week.

ridiculous perm ban decision (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 February 2017 21:33 (three months ago) Permalink

a most palpable hit!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2017 21:33 (three months ago) Permalink

ridiculous perm ban decision (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 February 2017 21:34 (three months ago) Permalink

deej will also probably tell you spotify means nothing because kids in chicago only listen to songs on musical.ly now or something

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 6 February 2017 21:34 (three months ago) Permalink

i will take 'hit' if we define 'hit' as charting in the top 10 of the billboard hot 100

wld probably take 'hit' under most definitions of 'hit song'

( ^_^) (Lamp), Monday, 6 February 2017 21:38 (three months ago) Permalink

might take the under on peak hot 100 chart position at 4.5 def confident on the over at like 11.5

( ^_^) (Lamp), Monday, 6 February 2017 21:39 (three months ago) Permalink

I'd call that a hit but if deej says it isn't a hit then I guess there's that.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 6 February 2017 21:46 (three months ago) Permalink

stonewaller

suggest bannon (||||||||), Monday, 6 February 2017 21:53 (three months ago) Permalink

My baseline suspicion/dismissal of trap is not dealing well with the amount I've enjoyed the Migos songs I've heard

ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2017 21:56 (three months ago) Permalink

it's a

sheer presence, look and size (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 February 2017 22:12 (three months ago) Permalink

It's #7 on the US Spotify chart atm.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Monday, 6 February 2017 22:18 (three months ago) Permalink

this will chart high due to streaming numbers, in a post-streams to charts world it is already a hit. i doubt it has any real longevity personally, shit is riding the waves from bad & boujee and a novelty video

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 6 February 2017 23:15 (three months ago) Permalink

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 6 February 2017 23:16 (three months ago) Permalink

No this was actually all said in the original migos thread

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 6 February 2017 23:48 (three months ago) Permalink

My baseline suspicion/dismissal of trap is not dealing well with the amount I've enjoyed the Migos songs I've heard

― ornate orchestral arrangements (DJP), Monday, February 6, 2017 4:56 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

feel like if u put migos in the trap bucket theyre def more fun than their contemporaries who tend more towards the moody/serious/arty axis, but if u compare them to the mumble rappers theyre kinda the standard level of fun, both those classifications are kinda whatever imo but maybe interesting in this context

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 00:18 (three months ago) Permalink

damn gotta switch out your lures there Whiney, he ain't bitin

xpost

Neanderthal, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 00:27 (three months ago) Permalink

david is right that its chart number may be artificially inflated, if it's off the chart in three weeks it wasn't actually a hit so much as the next song to come out after "bad and boujee"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 February 2017 04:49 (three months ago) Permalink

i mean timmy turner was a hit in chart position but i dont think you can call it a hit in any real way

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 04:51 (three months ago) Permalink

except ... chart position?

alpine static, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 05:16 (three months ago) Permalink

my point is that chart peak is a suspect measurement. what kind of attempted own was that?

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 05:24 (three months ago) Permalink

Bad and Boujee was a hit because of streaming. And then it was a hit in other formats - because of streaming. Same thing happened with Juju and most other rap hits that no one thought were real hits.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 06:03 (three months ago) Permalink

except ... chart position?

― alpine static, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:16 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark

there's a long phenomenon of songs having short bursts of chart relevancy at the very beginning of their life cycles going back to itunes sales getting incorporated into chart data

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 February 2017 06:27 (three months ago) Permalink

every song from starboy placed in the hot 100 its first week but the weeknd has 2 hits off that album so far

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 7 February 2017 06:29 (three months ago) Permalink

But now that seems to be changing. The songs that reach top 10 via streaming hang around longer these days because other formats start picking them up from there. That's what happened to Black Beatles, for instance. It's a new set of rules.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 06:33 (three months ago) Permalink

i wasn't trying to "own" anyone, i just think it sounds funny to say a song's not a hit except in the way we track hits, but y'all know how that stuff works better than me

alpine static, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 06:53 (three months ago) Permalink

fake hit

suggest bannon (||||||||), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 07:16 (three months ago) Permalink

weingars, get to, droppin, when that, drake-o, get to, poppin [fddrrrr]

r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 07:27 (three months ago) Permalink

sometimes differentiating between a one month and six month hit matters a lot anthropologically but less so with 't-shirt' bc it is a super rad banger duh

whichever prevailing current u may opine it is most aided by (4real zeitgeist wave, industry ersatz hypebestiality, meme magic, or ppl's personal bubbles where they care about neither) (or... all of them at once *gasp*) it is v disingenuous rhetoric to imply that it only has marginal/negligible appeal beyond that. foh with the timmy turner

r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 07:39 (three months ago) Permalink

Timmy Turner reached #34 on the Hot 100, which makes it a minor hit but no t-shirt.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 07:45 (three months ago) Permalink

Bad and Boujee was a hit because of streaming. And then it was a hit in other formats - because of streaming. Same thing happened with Juju and most other rap hits that no one thought were real hits.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:03 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm aware dumbass. What is wrong with you guys

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:28 (three months ago) Permalink

i wasn't trying to "own" anyone, i just think it sounds funny to say a song's not a hit except in the way we track hits, but y'all know how that stuff works better than me

― alpine static, Tuesday, February 7, 2017 12:53 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"We"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:28 (three months ago) Permalink

Suddenly going top 40 is a "minor hit" ? You guys have to make up your mind here about whether you're going to be strict charts constructionists or not around something other than the migos hypebeast cycle

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:30 (three months ago) Permalink

If you're talking Timmy Turner, dumbass, then yes. Since it was his follow up to a Hot 100 #1 hit and was massively hyped, I'd consider it a minor hit at 34.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:40 (three months ago) Permalink

T shirt has so far peaked at 37....

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:46 (three months ago) Permalink

"...and Migos' "T-Shirt," from Culture, vaults 37-19."
http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7678133/hot-100-ed-sheeran-shape-of-you-zayn-taylor-swift-surge-to

I was replying to J0rdan's "there's a long phenomenon of songs having short bursts of chart relevancy at the very beginning of their life cycles going back to itunes sales getting incorporated into chart data" - the point being that such long phenomenas are changing so that the past might not be the best way of assessing what will happen to a song like T-Shirt. Also, the weeknd is a strange point of comparison since his chart success largely derives from him catering to the old business model of letting the label take care of the marketing, writing songs for radio etc etc. He's not playing the Migos game.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 08:53 (three months ago) Permalink

no, what's changing is that songs that should have been bigger are getting more attention, but it doesn't change songs artificially launched into the top cf 'timmy turner' or 't-shirt'...per rtc tho yes t shirt is better than timmy turner

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:39 (three months ago) Permalink

if t-shirt had come pre- bad & boujee, it would not be a hit

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:40 (three months ago) Permalink

'say sum' is more of a hit than 't shirt' it just had the bad fortune to come before the colossus that is 'bad & boujee'

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:41 (three months ago) Permalink

Also, the weeknd is a strange point of comparison since his chart success largely derives from him catering to the old business model of letting the label take care of the marketing, writing songs for radio etc etc. He's not playing the Migos game.

― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, February 7, 2017 2:53 AM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

also you're kidding yourself if you think migos aren't 'writing songs for radio'

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:43 (three months ago) Permalink

Well good luck with your alternative facts, deej. Every song comes out after another song. And Migos are writing the same type of songs that they always did about the same subject matter. That they do it better than on their last album and have developed their pop sensibilities quite a bit does not make Culture comparable to Starboy, sorry. Radio plays Bad & Boujee because it is already a hit but B&B was not written for radio and radio didn't make it a hit in the first place.

What's "artificial" about the streaming charts though? Those are the songs listeners actively seek out, unless you want to make an argument about playlists like Rap Caviar "skewing" the stats.
As mentioned above, today T-Shirt is at number 7 on the US spotify chart: https://spotifycharts.com/regional/us/daily/latest How does that not reflect its actual popularity?

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:49 (three months ago) Permalink

They should have put cocoon on the album though.

human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 09:54 (three months ago) Permalink

agree its obv not another breakthru full spectrum cultural moment like 'b&b' but no one was rly claiming that either

"songs artificially launched into the top" there is a fine diff between zeitgeist and hypebeast and u know this... both distortive but only one is artificial

r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:10 (three months ago) Permalink

i might add by the by that it actually sounds awesome on the radio but i suppose the relevance of that depends on what radio is being discussed

r|t|c, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 10:13 (three months ago) Permalink

wait why does streaming numbers not count into what is a hit?

isn't that the dominant form of music listening now?

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:17 (three months ago) Permalink

hi dog latin, glad you're enjoying "t-shirt"!

what's your favorite part?

i like
woah
kemo-sabe
chop-per
point-ed
at ya
nog-gin

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 February 2017 14:10 (three months ago) Permalink

I listened to "T-Shirt" today. It's far from my favorite song on Culture but we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

evol j, Wednesday, 22 February 2017 15:39 (three months ago) Permalink

i love the cadence on takeoff's "talkin country grammar, n**ga, straight out north atlanta!" line; it's an unremarkable line prima facie but the delivery is *kisses fingers*

royce jung (slothroprhymes), Thursday, 23 February 2017 22:38 (three months ago) Permalink

otm

flopson, Friday, 24 February 2017 01:34 (three months ago) Permalink

43 -> 37 -> 19 -> 26 -> 29

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 27 February 2017 20:17 (three months ago) Permalink

couldn't help but hear that number sequence in migos flow

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 27 February 2017 20:19 (three months ago) Permalink

43, 37
THIRTY SEVEN
19, 26, 29
TWENTYSIXTWENTYNINE

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Monday, 27 February 2017 20:37 (three months ago) Permalink

heard t-shirt on the radio this morning

mh 😏, Monday, 27 February 2017 20:50 (three months ago) Permalink

ugh I am so sick of hearing t-shirt everywhere

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 27 February 2017 20:52 (three months ago) Permalink

I'm not! :)

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 February 2017 21:05 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

MTV's Meaghan Garvey gets it:

http://www.mtv.com/news/interactive/migos-cover-story/

the month after CULTURE’s release sees temperatures across the country hit forebodingly unseasonal highs, meaning t-shirt weather for usually snowbound cities. Meanwhile, the album's second and best single, “T-Shirt,” cracks the top 20 songs of the Hot 100. Which, yes, global warming. But also: Hurricane Migos.

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:36 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm wearing one of these T-Shirts right now!

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:43 (two months ago) Permalink

i too am wearing a tshirt, feels great to be part of something

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:44 (two months ago) Permalink

They're a real thing now

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

Migos announce that they will be musical guests on Late Show Starring Jimmy Fallon for a special performance of their smash single "T-Shirt" tonight, Thursday March 23rd at 11:35 EST on NBC. "T-Shirt" has sold over 500,000 equivalent units and remains one of the top 5 songs at Urban Radio while the iconic video for the song has nabbed over 60,000,000 views on YouTube to date.

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:49 (two months ago) Permalink

my t-shirt came in the mail, fits so good
think this innovation might be my favorite thing about this year so far

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Thursday, 23 March 2017 16:59 (two months ago) Permalink

wait.. 't-shirts' are still 'a thing'??

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Friday, 24 March 2017 10:10 (two months ago) Permalink

got one too recently, can't help but think what it would be like if the fabric was a bit thicker and the sleeves longer

niels, Friday, 24 March 2017 14:44 (two months ago) Permalink

man don't go out like a sucker with the "long sleeve t-shirt theory," that way lies

removed from the rain drops and drop tops of experience (ulysses), Friday, 24 March 2017 14:47 (two months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Top 3 of 2017 so far

DNA
T-shirt
Mask Off

the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 16 April 2017 19:19 (one month ago) Permalink

for longer form hip hop list, would add in good drank, bagbak, warning, tunnel vision, digging deep and [whispers]xo tour llif3[/whispers] but yeah, those are pretty unassailable

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Sunday, 16 April 2017 20:00 (one month ago) Permalink

T shirt would have 15,000 streams pre bad & boujee

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 16 April 2017 21:59 (one month ago) Permalink

Top 3 of 2017 so far

DNA
T-shirt
Mask Off

― the rockists' red glare (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, April 16, 2017 2:19 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Zzzz

i, too like the most recent songs on Rap Caviar

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, 16 April 2017 22:00 (one month ago) Permalink

must be hard to be so cool without a t-shirt

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Sunday, 16 April 2017 23:42 (one month ago) Permalink

T shirt would have 15,000 streams pre bad & boujee

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Sunday, April 16, 2017 4:59 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh I don't know I'd estimate at least 17,500

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 16 April 2017 23:44 (one month ago) Permalink

kinda feel like those last two deej posts were the moment he tipped his hand and now i'm just going to assume he's always trolling all the time and always has been and queue up amazing grace on the playlist

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Monday, 17 April 2017 04:25 (one month ago) Permalink

keef is the blue pill

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Monday, 17 April 2017 04:26 (one month ago) Permalink

t shirt, like mask off, is the recipient of a suddenly very hip hop friendly shift in chart measurement

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 17 April 2017 05:12 (one month ago) Permalink

i like this song, it is about drugs

nice cage (m bison), Monday, 17 April 2017 05:14 (one month ago) Permalink

reminds me of the famous tom cruise vehicle "the color of drugs"

lag∞n, Monday, 17 April 2017 16:43 (one month ago) Permalink

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40)
Posted: April 16, 2017 at 10:12:36 PM
t shirt, like mask off, is the recipient of a suddenly very hip hop friendly shift in chart measurement

what was the change

lag∞n, Monday, 17 April 2017 16:44 (one month ago) Permalink

streaming

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 April 2017 16:44 (one month ago) Permalink

saying DNA, mask off and t shirt are your three fav songs of 2017 is a fine but inherently and objectively boring opinion!!

J0rdan S., Monday, 17 April 2017 16:45 (one month ago) Permalink

*1995 voice* my favorite songs of the year are uh, tracks 6, 8, and 11 off that cd I bought

a landlocked exclave (mh 😏), Monday, 17 April 2017 16:49 (one month ago) Permalink

track 7 ok computer

lag∞n, Monday, 17 April 2017 16:50 (one month ago) Permalink

track 7 ok computer

lag∞n, Monday, 17 April 2017 16:50 (one month ago) Permalink

guys we're getting a little off topic here
numbers aren't important....what's important is the t-shirt in your hearts

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 April 2017 17:00 (one month ago) Permalink

lots of t-shirts with a a human heart, can't seem to find a picture of a human heart wearing a t-shirt
i sense a marketing opportunity

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Monday, 17 April 2017 18:18 (one month ago) Permalink

selfie of Quavo wearing The 1975 t-shirt

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 April 2017 18:23 (one month ago) Permalink

DNA already feels like an all-time banger, "Mama Said Knock You Out" level.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, April 24, 2017 8:50 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Jay Elettronica Viva (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 April 2017 13:55 (one month ago) Permalink

mama said knock you out was the "t-shirt" of its day

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 April 2017 13:57 (one month ago) Permalink

mama said knock u out is corny and so is dna

lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2017 15:37 (one month ago) Permalink

tshirt is good tho

lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2017 15:37 (one month ago) Permalink

I was telling someone about why this stepdad of an friend is in federal prison and the story involved a kilo of meth. I have no idea what that's worth, but we figured it was a lot less than coke, and T-Shirt came on the radio and I said "hmm probably not $17.5K"

a landlocked exclave (mh), Monday, 24 April 2017 15:49 (one month ago) Permalink

'dna' fucking bangs dude

flopson, Monday, 24 April 2017 16:07 (one month ago) Permalink

why did whiney c/p that post to this thread though?

flopson, Monday, 24 April 2017 16:11 (one month ago) Permalink

its in his dna

lag∞n, Monday, 24 April 2017 16:23 (one month ago) Permalink

blonde redheads have more fun (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 24 April 2017 16:32 (one month ago) Permalink

who will be the first rapper to rhyme "genetic" with "kendrick"

Bobson Dugnutt (ulysses), Monday, 24 April 2017 17:24 (one month ago) Permalink


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